I was at a hotel once upon a time when little people of America had a convention. What a trip that was.
Any of you guys actually find a midget at work?
[QUOTE=Clinton Bush]Diversity rocks - Asians, Latinas and Midgets, Oh My ![/QUOTE]
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I was at a hotel once upon a time when little people of America had a convention. What a trip that was.
Any of you guys actually find a midget at work?
[QUOTE=Clinton Bush]Diversity rocks - Asians, Latinas and Midgets, Oh My ![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=R Consultant]
Being invisible is just that, you can play the game just don't be stupid about it. Common sense and who you associate with is what really matters. I would never park my car at a shop again. Spend some time and embarrassment and you will soon be on the same page.
Who in their right mind would want to be on tape or recorded at a place that already has a shady reputation? Its a false security that most people have. As I said you have to learn the hard way sometimes to realize how vulnerable you really are. Take what I say anyway you want, but don't say I didn't warn you that these shops are not going unnoticed.
Happy Hunting..[/QUOTE]
LE is well aware of all the shops in their jurisdiction. They tend to leave them alone......until the neighbors complain about noise, traffic, or any unusual activity. When that happens, LE will try and make a big splash with a bust with the hope that will keep the neighbors happy. A SW sting works the same way. LE will always say they conducted the sting after recieving numerous complaints from local businesses and neighbors.
[QUOTE=Luckydman]Was in Largo today so I thought I would try the Pine Tree. This was my first visit. So I walk in and I get Amy. Amy is pretty hot, so I am thinking allright. I opted for the 30 minute massage with no TS. She starts massaging really hard and fast through a scratchy towel. Not sensual at all. The whole time I am thinking this sucks (and not in a good way). Finally I hear the mamasan say "time". I am thinking are you freaking kidding me? Not even a flip, no flirting, nothing worth. 60 So I asked her no flip, no front massage and she says "you get better massage next time". Now she starts the flirting and even has her bra undone. She helped me get dressed, gave me a hug and whispered in my ear "next time". I was pretty disappointed. Has anyone every had Amy before? I was thinking I should have gone to 73rd.[/QUOTE]
This post has bothered me for a while. The only thing I can think of is that it was your first time, and that the staff was being careful. My first time there I was offered a HE, but I requested everything and received it.
Amy, no connection. They do cycle ladies in and out that never appear again, but so far, no Amy.
So I can't figure out if your post is legit or not. I guess I hope it is.
[QUOTE=Jaws Iii]This post has bothered me for a while. The only thing I can think of is that it was your first time, and that the staff was being careful. My first time there I was offered a HE, but I requested everything and received it.
Amy, no connection. They do cycle ladies in and out that never appear again, but so far, no Amy.
So I can't figure out if your post is legit or not. I guess I hope it is.[/QUOTE]As I had previously said, I could have gotten the name wrong. I am totally bad with names. Her name was kinda the last thing on my mind. I do plan on going back soon, so hopefully visit number two will be a lot better. I can completely understand your hesitance to believe everything on this form. Here's to the next Pine Tree report.
[QUOTE=Jaws Iii]This post has bothered me for a while. The only thing I can think of is that it was your first time, and that the staff was being careful. My first time there I was offered a HE, but I requested everything and received it.
Amy, no connection. They do cycle ladies in and out that never appear again, but so far, no Amy.
So I can't figure out if your post is legit or not. I guess I hope it is.[/QUOTE]For whatever its worth. On my first visit there my attendant gave me two different names, but gave me her "real fake name" after the session. During my first visit there it was the usual cat and mouse type questions. However at the end she was much more comfortable. I have had the same scenario at a couple of other places as well.
I had another visit w/ Terry on Sat, late eve. This girl is an outstanding therapist. Nice TS, Very good massage. FANTASTIC Send off. She even throws in some niceties, like what a sexy man I am (I have serious doubts about thier vision plan). I sure wish I could keep her all to myself. She is definitely my ATF, at this point anyway. Be safe.
Goldstien57 out
[QUOTE=Tampa52]Given your posting history here I find it incredibly hard to believe any provider would confide anything to you, much less something as major as a place being bugged or taped.
I know Cindy and visited both locations several times. I would visit them without worries.[/QUOTE]
know Cindy! The old bag's been around! You don't know shit except where to get your snake milked.Did she give you the gummie bear,that's for her VIPs :}
I will fill you in on another thing you don't know, throw around the coin and the canaries start singing. Do you really think the clam juice hos know who I am Tampa52? Get a clue and shove your 10 posts in your azz
Smack hit that on the head Tampa52, you really don't have any credit whatsoever with such a small amount of time on the board.
We might not agree with everyone's view or how they describe what they are involved but at least its truthful.
I for one have gotten great information from Smackola and got some real good sessions with his good information.
Happy Hunting..
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Originally Posted by Tampa52
Given your posting history here I find it incredibly hard to believe any provider would confide anything to you, much less something as major as a place being bugged or taped.
I know Cindy and visited both locations several times. I would visit them without worries.
[QUOTE=Smackthatass]know Cindy! The old bag's been around! You don't know shit except where to get your snake milked.Did she give you the gummie bear,that's for her VIPs :}
I will fill you in on another thing you don't know, throw around the coin and the canaries start singing. Do you really think the clam juice hos know who I am Tampa52? Get a clue and shove your 10 posts in your azz[/QUOTE]
I have been to TG and 73rd and enjoyed my dreams at both to varying degrees. I am curious about the other places that I never see reports on (never a good sign). Anyone have any dreams or advise about Studio X?
[url]http://tampa.backpage.com/BodyRubs/the-finest-in-sensual-relaxation-aromatherapy-at-studio-x-today-24hours-21/1938838[/url]
Jessie James looks hot to me and they are 24 hours which I like. Also, Aroma Spa in Bradenton
[url]http://tampa.backpage.com/BodyRubs/the-aroma-spa-25/2399932[/url]
I'm heading South next week, so any info would be great! Thanks and PM if you would like.
Jessie has been around for a long time. From what I hear she is more than a little full of herself (Diva). I've only heard from people who have been customers of hers though, I haven't met her myself. But from her website where she sells autographed pictures of herself for $20 each, I'm inclined to believe it.
[url]http://www.jessiejameserotica.com/store.html[/url]
[QUOTE=Caverat]I have been to TG and 73rd and enjoyed my dreams at both to varying degrees. I am curious about the other places that I never see reports on (never a good sign). Anyone have any dreams or advise about Studio X?
[url]http://tampa.backpage.com/BodyRubs/the-finest-in-sensual-relaxation-aromatherapy-at-studio-x-today-24hours-21/1938838[/url]
Jessie James looks hot to me and they are 24 hours which I like. Also, Aroma Spa in Bradenton
[url]http://tampa.backpage.com/BodyRubs/the-aroma-spa-25/2399932[/url]
I'm heading South next week, so any info would be great! Thanks and PM if you would like.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Caverat]Aroma Spa in Bradenton
[url]http://tampa.backpage.com/BodyRubs/the-aroma-spa-25/2399932[/url]
I'm heading South next week, so any info would be great! Thanks and PM if you would like.[/QUOTE]
Been there once, nice place, way down Cortez though. Pics are accurate. A little pricey, $$ for FS, but the real problem is you're experiencing it 10 minutes into the session. May repeat if I read reports of them taking a little more time with things.
[QUOTE=Smackthatass]know Cindy! The old bag's been around! You don't know shit except where to get your snake milked.Did she give you the gummie bear,that's for her VIPs.
I will fill you in on another thing you don't know, throw around the coin and the canaries start singing. Do you really think the clam juice hos know who I am Tampa52? Get a clue and shove your 10 posts in your azz[/QUOTE]I shouldn't speak up because I only have 10 posts? Does that mean the guy repeating the 8th grade for the third time should be the only one to speak up in class. Can you relate to that?
You are good for a laugh. Thanks.
[QUOTE=Tampa52]I shouldn't speak up because I only have 10 posts? Does that mean the guy repeating the 8th grade for the third time should be the only one to speak up in class. Can you relate to that?
You are good for a laugh. Thanks.[/QUOTE]
It is best to just ignore some of the folks who post here. Fortunately the software makes this easy to do.
Saw Leah last week at Aloha. Somewhat tall, reasonably good looking. Ok personality, but the body, although trim, obviously had a few miles on it. Pleasant, but I wouldn't bother with a repeat. Another girl there named Lucky that I met. Smaller, enhanced, seems to have a more vivacious personality. Might try her.
If someone knows who is at PT currently, I would appreciate knowing. PM is great if you are more comfortable.
[QUOTE=Clinton Bush]It is best to just ignore some of the folks who post here. Fortunately the software makes this easy to do.[/QUOTE]Right you are. Especially when it is very likely that it's the same person logging on under different names.
[QUOTE=Mongeur]Sure, "bugs" can come in any form, but any that are going to be used for continuous monitoring will either have to be wired or will transmit with radio waves. A wireless bug would be the height of stupidity because it could be eavesdropped by anybody for any purpose -- including purposes that would hurt the person who supposedly placed the bug. So, even if you're worried about microphones in clocks and plants and such, those clocks or plants will have wires coming out of them that don't make any sense (my house plants don't have any wires anyway). Sure, something like a clock radio should have a power cord, but only a power cord, not a power cord and a piece of coax cable. Assuming you're looking for a wired bug, this makes the search a lot easier if someone is so inclined. I'm going to rule out encrypted wireless bugs because that's so far beyond reality (in this context) that if you're worried about it you must be (or think you are) in MI-6.[/QUOTE]I've never been in Cindy's place, or any of the other AMPs in the area (unfortunately, I moved several years ago from Miami and ended up in a part of the state with very few providers. You guys are very lucky to have so many options).
That said, the reality is that if a provider wishes to record you, it can be done VERY easily, and you likely would never know. There are many products available that are relatively inexpensive, easy to conceal, and simple for any amateur to use.
For example, you can buy. Online. An ink pen that records up to 3 hours of audio/video and stores it on a built-in DVR. No wires, no transmissions, no external power supply. Just set it down somewhere within eight feet or so of the target, let it record, and then plug it into your USB port to save and view the recording. Cost: About $100.
For a little more money, you can buy electrical outlet faceplates, Exit signs, plug-in air fresheners, smoke detectors, and cell phone chargers with the same kind of set-up. Or, for less than $1, 000, a provider in a location with drop ceilings (which at least some of these places probably have) could put in a wired pinhole camera system capable of delivering audio/video to any computer monitor or television in the place. The cables could be concealed in the ceiling, and the camera would be invisible unless you climbed up and inspected the ceiling. If the provider wanted to record audio only, the microphone would not even need to penetrate all the way through the ceiling tiles.
As one of the other posters said, you can never really be 100%. The only way to protect yourself against something like this is to make sure that YOU control the environment. That means using your own location and restricting what the provider is able to bring into that environment.
I guess what you have to decide is where you want to draw the line between being being careful and being paranoid.
Makes me want to go buy a few pens for my shirt pocket now. I bet I could get some real good stuff.,
Happy Hunting..
[QUOTE=Old Skul]I've never been in Cindy's place, or any of the other AMPs in the area (unfortunately, I moved several years ago from Miami and ended up in a part of the state with very few providers. You guys are very lucky to have so many options).
That said, the reality is that if a provider wishes to record you, it can be done VERY easily, and you likely would never know. There are many products available that are relatively inexpensive, easy to conceal, and simple for any amateur to use.
For example, you can buy. Online. An ink pen that records up to 3 hours of audio/video and stores it on a built-in DVR. No wires, no transmissions, no external power supply. Just set it down somewhere within eight feet or so of the target, let it record, and then plug it into your USB port to save and view the recording. Cost: About $100.
For a little more money, you can buy electrical outlet faceplates, Exit signs, plug-in air fresheners, smoke detectors, and cell phone chargers with the same kind of set-up. Or, for less than $1, 000, a provider in a location with drop ceilings (which at least some of these places probably have) could put in a wired pinhole camera system capable of delivering audio/video to any computer monitor or television in the place. The cables could be concealed in the ceiling, and the camera would be invisible unless you climbed up and inspected the ceiling. If the provider wanted to record audio only, the microphone would not even need to penetrate all the way through the ceiling tiles.
As one of the other posters said, you can never really be 100%. The only way to protect yourself against something like this is to make sure that YOU control the environment. That means using your own location and restricting what the provider is able to bring into that environment.
I guess what you have to decide is where you want to draw the line between being being careful and being paranoid.[/QUOTE]
So, today I took a few and dropped by PT for a quick .5hr to work out the kinks. Victoria and Terry were working, so from experience requested Terry. Terry is very cute, flirty, nice body, and extremely sweet. She is very good at initiating conversation, so in general very friendly. This is the first time in awhile I wasn't happy with the service. Terry knows who I am, so I'm no newbie by any means. The massage was painful, to say the least, with sloppy technique. The back walk was torture, to the point where I wonder if she was getting pleasure out of the pain she was inflicting upon me. The end was rushed, painful, and sloppy in a bad way. I tipped accordingly, I just hope this doesn't become the norm.
[QUOTE=T Amp A]So, today I took a few and dropped by PT for a quick .5hr to work out the kinks. Victoria and Terry were working, so from experience requested Terry. Terry is very cute, flirty, nice body, and extremely sweet. She is very good an initiating conversion, so in general very friendly. This is the first time in awhile I wasn't happy with the service. Terry knows who I am, so I'm no newbie by any means. The massage was painful, to say the least, with sloppy technique. The back walk was torture, to the point where I wonder if she was getting pleasure out of the pain she was inflicting upon me. The end was rushed, painful, and sloppy in a bad way. I tipped accordingly, I just hope this doesn't become the norm.[/QUOTE]Terry gives massages? ;-)
Sorry to hear about the lackluster experience. Heading there soon myself -- hope not to experience a repeat of your visit.
[QUOTE=Clinton Bush]Read the past postings on the forum here for Body Temple. Specifically searching for those that mention June, an experienced guide to that region.
Then ask mama at BT when June will next return. You will find the Pacific Rim and all of it's wonders.[/QUOTE]I dreamed today about BT and saw Jenny. Incredible experience! She did a tour of the Pacific Rim and it was fantastic! I also dreamed that this place was the best so far. I hope to dream more about this place in the future.
[QUOTE=Mongeur]Terry gives massages? ;-)
Sorry to hear about the lackluster experience. Heading there soon myself -- hope not to experience a repeat of your visit.[/QUOTE]
In my dream...
If the girl in question has her lips on you constantly her name is Teddy. She can be VERY aggressive with the pressure. Those little hands can squeeze the sauce out of a soy bean. She will back off if you tell her.
You better hurry, she told me she is outta there on Sunday and be back maybe in March.
But again I could be dreaming.
Man Ive been wanting to get back down there for a while now. Was hoping to see Teddy(Terry) again. Last time there first time with her was a good time. I doubt Ill be able to get there before she leaves. I guess I could press my luck and maybe get Victoria again. If so hopefully I just caught her on an off day last time, but from some of the reviews I don't think this was the case. I'll be sure to report back if I decide to hit it up.
[QUOTE=NoJokers]In my dream...
If the girl in question has her lips on you constantly her name is Teddy. She can be VERY aggressive with the pressure. Those little hands can squeeze the sauce out of a soy bean. She will back off if you tell her.
You better hurry, she told me she is outta there on Sunday and be back maybe in March.
But again I could be dreaming.[/QUOTE]Yep - that's her. I just tell her I want "light massage" (on the rare occasion that I want a massage).
By the way, lots of folks here have called her Teddy, but that's just the accent. Their double-r's sound kinda like double-d's. I, and at least one other member here who believed it is "Terry" (or Terrie, or whatever), asked her just to be sure and she thought it was funny that some folks think it's Teddy.
Not looking forward to her departure but she spoke highly of the "new girl" that's on the way.
[QUOTE=Mongeur]Yep - that's her. I just tell her I want "light massage" (on the rare occasion that I want a massage).
By the way, lots of folks here have called her Teddy, but that's just the accent. Their double-r's sound kinda like double-d's. I, and at least one other member here who believed it is "Terry" (or Terrie, or whatever), asked her just to be sure and she thought it was funny that some folks think it's Teddy.
Not looking forward to her departure but she spoke highly of the "new girl" that's on the way.[/QUOTE]
Gentelman (who am I kidding), I would like to add my report to this string of reports about Pine Tree Spa; the one on 66th street in Largo. Let me start of by saying I do know how to Read The Fucking Forum and did that since I am a visitor to this area. I was hoping to find an Asian Massage Parlor that had few good reports on their service that wasn't too far from where I am staying. It is easy enough to find the reports so I could find a couple of names that I could use to get past that first visit with limited service crap. I am sure many of you have done the same thing. So I thought Terry, also known as Teddy, sounded good and called to make an appointment with the plan to mention Carol as the last woman I saw since it has been reported here that she is not there any more.
Here is where the plan really fell apart. After ringing the bell the window goes up like I was entering a freaken speak easy or something. Then the Mama San asked me my last name and started looking through her card file. I was figured I was busted with my second visit story since I had no card. Then I tried to explain that I was experienced, not a threat, and didn't want to hear that it will be better the next time because I am from out of town. All I got was, "We give very good massage." I started to walk out and should have but thought maybe I could convince Terry that I was OK. Laughing Out Loud I forked over the $80 house fee and was allowed to enter. By The Way, some of you guys imply that you think the place is nice. your are kidding....right? Based on my 10 years of experience with this hobby I would call it slightly below average; not bad but certainly not good. I was let to the first room on the right where I was asked if I wanted a shower. I declined since I just took one and really prefer the massage. She told me to take off all my clothes and lie face down on the table which I did. Then after about 5 minutes, Terry walked in. She is attractive, slender and I enjoy the hard massage she is alleged to give. I thought this might not be bad after all. At least I thought that until she put the towel over my back and ass. I told her that I preferred that she not use that, but she seemed to insist that it was necessary. I told her again that I really didn't want it which I thought was appropriate since I was paying for the service. At that point she got a bit of an attitude and I realized this would go nowhere. I asked for my money back and told her I would leave but she didn't understand why. Then she went out in the hall and talked to the Mama San who then came in and said she would give the massage. I said just give me my money and she asked what it was I wanted. The answer was easy. I primarily wanted a decent massage and while I didn't come right out and tell her that I wanted Full Service or a Bare Back Blow Job, I did say that extras would be nice. She quickly pointed out that there are no extras. So I asked again that she "just give me my money back which she did and I left unhappy. Could you tell?
What I don't get is after going back about a year Reading The Fucking Forum is why those of you that post reports would leave out an essential piece of information about the card file. And do any of you really provide your real first and last name? Or even an address or phone number? That is about the dumbest thing I ever heard of, but that is what I was asked for.
Hopefully this will help new people to this board or those thinking of visiting Pine Tree Spa for the first time from getting less than they were hoping for.
[QUOTE=A Otay]Gentelman (who am I kidding), I would like to add my report to this string of reports about Pine Tree Spa; the one on 66th street in Largo. Let me start of by saying I do know how to Read The Fucking Forum and did that since I am a visitor to this area. I was hoping to find an Asian Massage Parlor that had few good reports on their service that wasn't too far from where I am staying. It is easy enough to find the reports so I could find a couple of names that I could use to get past that first visit with limited service crap. I am sure many of you have done the same thing. So I thought Terry, also known as Teddy, sounded good and called to make an appointment with the plan to mention Carol as the last woman I saw since it has been reported here that she is not there any more.
Here is where the plan really fell apart. After ringing the bell the window goes up like I was entering a freaken speak easy or something. Then the Mama San asked me my last name and started looking through her card file. I was figured I was busted with my second visit story since I had no card. Then I tried to explain that I was experienced, not a threat, and didn't want to hear that it will be better the next time because I am from out of town. All I got was, "We give very good massage." I started to walk out and should have but thought maybe I could convince Terry that I was OK. Laughing Out Loud I forked over the $80 house fee and was allowed to enter. By The Way, some of you guys imply that you think the place is nice. your are kidding....right? Based on my 10 years of experience with this hobby I would call it slightly below average; not bad but certainly not good. I was let to the first room on the right where I was asked if I wanted a shower. I declined since I just took one and really prefer the massage. She told me to take off all my clothes and lie face down on the table which I did. Then after about 5 minutes, Terry walked in. She is attractive, slender and I enjoy the hard massage she is alleged to give. I thought this might not be bad after all. At least I thought that until she put the towel over my back and ass. I told her that I preferred that she not use that, but she seemed to insist that it was necessary. I told her again that I really didn't want it which I thought was appropriate since I was paying for the service. At that point she got a bit of an attitude and I realized this would go nowhere. I asked for my money back and told her I would leave but she didn't understand why. Then she went out in the hall and talked to the Mama San who then came in and said she would give the massage. I said just give me my money and she asked what it was I wanted. The answer was easy. I primarily wanted a decent massage and while I didn't come right out and tell her that I wanted Full Service or a Bare Back Blow Job, I did say that extras would be nice. She quickly pointed out that there are no extras. So I asked again that she "just give me my money back which she did and I left unhappy. Could you tell?
What I don't get is after going back about a year Reading The Fucking Forum is why those of you that post reports would leave out an essential piece of information about the card file. And do any of you really provide your real first and last name? Or even an address or phone number? That is about the dumbest thing I ever heard of, but that is what I was asked for.
Hopefully this will help new people to this board or those thinking of visiting Pine Tree Spa for the first time from getting less than they were hoping for.[/QUOTE]
I have been to Pine Tree once. Got a lousy massage, no extras available. They asked for info for their card file which I intially gave them but eventually felt uncomfortable and ripped up the card. Demanded (and recieved) my money back. There are too many options out there so there is no need to deal with their bullshit and spotty service. Will never go back.
I'm really surprised to hear that people are having problems at Pine Tree on the first visit. The first time I went, since I knew that I'd visit again if I had a good time, I told them "I haven't been here before, but I've been other places around here." I filled out a card with a fake name, and the girl told me "Don't forget your name!"
At any place I've ever been, I've never had a problem getting what I want the first time. It can't be that I'm better looking than most other guys (lol), so maybe I just give off better vibes.
PS-Always get the table shower.
[QUOTE=Luckydman]As I had previously said, I could have gotten the name wrong. I am totally bad with names. Her name was kinda the last thing on my mind. I do plan on going back soon, so hopefully visit number two will be a lot better. I can completely understand your hesitance to believe everything on this form. Here's to the next Pine Tree report.[/QUOTE]
Looks like I owe you an apology, Luckydman. Seems like the ladies are being careful, which is probably a good thing. I saw Terry recently and she said that January had been slow, but I guess not slow enough for them to take chances. Better luck next visit.
Guys,
If you RTF you should know.
Always have a fake name and birth date ready and remember it. (If you need one PM me and I'll give you mine, 10 and the next one is free for me.. oh yeah!.
Always go with the TS and last and most important.
Don't be an @hole.
Now No more posts about PT. A total waste of time and money. Don't go there. Discussion closed, all PT threads are closed.
Jokers to the left of me, @holes to the right
Out
[QUOTE=Mongeur]Their double-r's sound kinda like double-d's. QUOTE]
Mongeur Dude,
With my big stack, a Double D beats an R in my hand.
Its my dream, let me deal with it.
Thanks for the correction.
[QUOTE=A Otay]Gentelman (who am I kidding), I would like to add my report to this string of reports about Pine Tree Spa; the one on 66th street in Largo. Let me start of by saying I do know how to Read The Fucking Forum and did that since I am a visitor to this area. I was hoping to find an Asian Massage Parlor that had few good reports on their service that wasn't too far from where I am staying. It is easy enough to find the reports so I could find a couple of names that I could use to get past that first visit with limited service crap. I am sure many of you have done the same thing. So I thought Terry, also known as Teddy, sounded good and called to make an appointment with the plan to mention Carol as the last woman I saw since it has been reported here that she is not there any more.
Here is where the plan really fell apart. After ringing the bell the window goes up like I was entering a freaken speak easy or something. Then the Mama San asked me my last name and started looking through her card file. I was figured I was busted with my second visit story since I had no card. Then I tried to explain that I was experienced, not a threat, and didn't want to hear that it will be better the next time because I am from out of town. All I got was, "We give very good massage." I started to walk out and should have but thought maybe I could convince Terry that I was OK. Laughing Out Loud I forked over the $80 house fee and was allowed to enter. By The Way, some of you guys imply that you think the place is nice. your are kidding....right? Based on my 10 years of experience with this hobby I would call it slightly below average; not bad but certainly not good. I was let to the first room on the right where I was asked if I wanted a shower. I declined since I just took one and really prefer the massage. She told me to take off all my clothes and lie face down on the table which I did. Then after about 5 minutes, Terry walked in. She is attractive, slender and I enjoy the hard massage she is alleged to give. I thought this might not be bad after all. At least I thought that until she put the towel over my back and ass. I told her that I preferred that she not use that, but she seemed to insist that it was necessary. I told her again that I really didn't want it which I thought was appropriate since I was paying for the service. At that point she got a bit of an attitude and I realized this would go nowhere. I asked for my money back and told her I would leave but she didn't understand why. Then she went out in the hall and talked to the Mama San who then came in and said she would give the massage. I said just give me my money and she asked what it was I wanted. The answer was easy. I primarily wanted a decent massage and while I didn't come right out and tell her that I wanted Full Service or a Bare Back Blow Job, I did say that extras would be nice. She quickly pointed out that there are no extras. So I asked again that she "just give me my money back which she did and I left unhappy. Could you tell?
What I don't get is after going back about a year Reading The Fucking Forum is why those of you that post reports would leave out an essential piece of information about the card file. And do any of you really provide your real first and last name? Or even an address or phone number? That is about the dumbest thing I ever heard of, but that is what I was asked for.
Hopefully this will help new people to this board or those thinking of visiting Pine Tree Spa for the first time from getting less than they were hoping for.[/QUOTE]The fact that PT uses a card system has been mentioned here and isn't a secret.
Here are 4 [i]recent[/i] posts which mention it:
[url=http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=926575&postcount=1734&highlight=card]Post 1[/url]
[url=http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=925365&postcount=1725&highlight=card]Post 2[/url]
[url=http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=925069&postcount=1723&highlight=card]Post 3[/url]
[url=http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=910981&postcount=1663&highlight=card]Post 4[/url]
That said, a thorough read of the FF is difficult -- there's a ton of info/posts here and it's not always easy to find exactly what you're searching for. It sounds like you played it pretty well by mentioning a prior girl's name and all. It's a new mamasan though, so who knows if she even knows Carol. Bottom line is that things didn't work for you. It happens. The process to successfully pass though the gauntlet probably varies a bit from place to place. Even at places like FT/TG there is a gauntlet, albeit passing through seems to be a no-brainer for most (but at least one poster here failed).
There has to be a gauntlet. If anyone could stroll in and have the full menu, they probably wouldn't be there long.
[QUOTE=Shadow Rider X]The owner of the shop had a friend of hers, who is also in the business, come in temporary, to help out. Her name is Tiny, she has very large boobs, that might have been who you saw. She was there on Friday, but may have come back for the weekend.[/QUOTE]
I think Madison is different than Tiny. Tiny was at Final Touch years ago. She advertises on backpage often. I think her ad states 36GGG or something like that. She is great, and will work with you if you have financial issues.
[QUOTE=Loafer Boat]I think Madison is different than Tiny. Tiny was at Final Touch years ago. She advertises on backpage often. I think her ad states 36GGG or something like that. She is great, and will work with you if you have financial issues.[/QUOTE]you are absolutely correct, they are two different girls, and you are right Tiny uses 36 GG as part of her name. But she was at 73rd on Friday. I forgot the owner's name, but she was looking to hire another girl said she needed some help temporarily that's why Tiny was there. But as you know the turnover there can be really quick some times.
[QUOTE=Shadow Rider X] I forgot the owner's name, but she was looking to hire another girl .[/QUOTE]New girl, a young beauty, Lilly to start Monday 3PM shift.
You have to remember these ladies aren't telling you anything about them either. They make up names that aren't even close to the real one. So you give them whatever name you want also. I can't even imagine why guys use credit cards at these places. Paper trails are never a good thing.
I wonder if you would have been able to say I can't believe you lost my card.. haha!
Happy Hunting.
[QUOTE=A Otay]Gentelman (who am I kidding), I would like to add my report to this string of reports about Pine Tree Spa; the one on 66th street in Largo. Let me start of by saying I do know how to Read The Fucking Forum and did that since I am a visitor to this area. I was hoping to find an Asian Massage Parlor that had few good reports on their service that wasn't too far from where I am staying. It is easy enough to find the reports so I could find a couple of names that I could use to get past that first visit with limited service crap. I am sure many of you have done the same thing. So I thought Terry, also known as Teddy, sounded good and called to make an appointment with the plan to mention Carol as the last woman I saw since it has been reported here that she is not there any more.
Here is where the plan really fell apart. After ringing the bell the window goes up like I was entering a freaken speak easy or something. Then the Mama San asked me my last name and started looking through her card file. I was figured I was busted with my second visit story since I had no card. Then I tried to explain that I was experienced, not a threat, and didn't want to hear that it will be better the next time because I am from out of town. All I got was, "We give very good massage." I started to walk out and should have but thought maybe I could convince Terry that I was OK. Laughing Out Loud I forked over the $80 house fee and was allowed to enter. By The Way, some of you guys imply that you think the place is nice. your are kidding....right? Based on my 10 years of experience with this hobby I would call it slightly below average; not bad but certainly not good. I was let to the first room on the right where I was asked if I wanted a shower. I declined since I just took one and really prefer the massage. She told me to take off all my clothes and lie face down on the table which I did. Then after about 5 minutes, Terry walked in. She is attractive, slender and I enjoy the hard massage she is alleged to give. I thought this might not be bad after all. At least I thought that until she put the towel over my back and ass. I told her that I preferred that she not use that, but she seemed to insist that it was necessary. I told her again that I really didn't want it which I thought was appropriate since I was paying for the service. At that point she got a bit of an attitude and I realized this would go nowhere. I asked for my money back and told her I would leave but she didn't understand why. Then she went out in the hall and talked to the Mama San who then came in and said she would give the massage. I said just give me my money and she asked what it was I wanted. The answer was easy. I primarily wanted a decent massage and while I didn't come right out and tell her that I wanted Full Service or a Bare Back Blow Job, I did say that extras would be nice. She quickly pointed out that there are no extras. So I asked again that she "just give me my money back which she did and I left unhappy. Could you tell?
What I don't get is after going back about a year Reading The Fucking Forum is why those of you that post reports would leave out an essential piece of information about the card file. And do any of you really provide your real first and last name? Or even an address or phone number? That is about the dumbest thing I ever heard of, but that is what I was asked for.
Hopefully this will help new people to this board or those thinking of visiting Pine Tree Spa for the first time from getting less than they were hoping for.[/QUOTE]
Hey Fellas,
Will be heading to Pinelas for the weekend. Any heads up on who's in the line up for Pine tree. Last I heard, Christina then Terry moved on (sad,sad,sad!). Last time I was there the only other face was Victoria. Would appreciate any intel if anyone has had a recent visit.
Thanks,
Goldstien57 out
[QUOTE=R Consultant]You have to remember these ladies aren't telling you anything about them either. They make up names that aren't even close to the real one. So you give them whatever name you want also. I can't even imagine why guys use credit cards at these places. Paper trails are never a good thing.
I wonder if you would have been able to say I can't believe you lost my card.. haha!
Happy Hunting.[/QUOTE]
I have used a credit card at these places occasionaly to pay the door fee. Not worried about a paper trail because:
1- I am single, no SO
2-They are a legitimate business licensed by the county and the state.
3- VISA, Mastercard and all the rest would never do business with an illegal business.
4- Any tip that I decide to leave is my business and always cash. I am simply tipping for good service. Do you think all waiters, waitresses, bartenders report all their tips to the IRS?
[QUOTE=Goldstien57]Hey Fellas,
Will be heading to Pinelas for the weekend. Any heads up on who's in the line up for Pine tree. Last I heard, Christina then Terry moved on (sad,sad,sad!). Last time I was there the only other face was Victoria. Would appreciate any intel if anyone has had a recent visit.
Thanks,
Goldstien57 out[/QUOTE]
Terry is there through this weekend. Then, Monday, "new girl".
Once one state jumps on the bandwagon they all do. Just so you know it is very easy to setup an account with a point of sale terminal to accept all kinds of credit cards. I have seen escorts who offer wireless processing for credit cards. It is easier than you think.
This will be interesting:
Stiffer laws urged for illegal massage parlors
Associated Press - February 4, 2010 1:24 PM ET
ATLANTA (AP) - State Sen. Cecil Staton says stiffer penalties are needed to crack down on illegal massage parlors, especially in middle Georgia, where the issue seems to be more of a problem.
Currently, it is illegal to advertise massage therapy services by a person without a valid license and to operate massage therapy services as part of adult entertainment or an escort service.
Under Staton's proposal, the offense would become a felony punishable by up to five years in prison and a fine of up to $25,000 upon a person's third offense. The person's license would be suspended for at least a year for their first offense and permanently on the third offense.
The bill also encourages local governments to enact laws regulating massage parlors.[
Happy Hunting..
QUOTE=SpeedRacer29]I have used a credit card at these places occasionaly to pay the door fee. Not worried about a paper trail because:
1- I am single, no SO
2-They are a legitimate business licensed by the county and the state.
3- VISA, Mastercard and all the rest would never do business with an illegal business.
4- Any tip that I decide to leave is my business and always cash. I am simply tipping for good service. Do you think all waiters, waitresses, bartenders report all their tips to the IRS?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=R Consultant]Associated Press - February 4, 2010 1:24 PM ET
ATLANTA (AP) - State Sen. Cecil Staton says stiffer penalties are needed to crack down on illegal massage parlors, especially in middle Georgia, where the issue seems to be more of a problem.
Under Staton's proposal, the offense would become a felony punishable by up to five years in prison and a fine of up to $25,000 upon a person's third offense. [/QUOTE]
February 5, 2010 9:30 PM ET - St. Petersburg (USASG) - State Sen. Cecil Staton is a sick fuck whose proposal will go nowhere, since the majority of State Senators enjoy the services of illegal massage parlors.
[QUOTE=Edgar Alan Ho]February 5, 2010 9:30 PM ET. St. Petersburg (USASG). State Sen. Cecil Staton is a sick fuck whose proposal will go nowhere, since the majority of State Senators enjoy the services of illegal massage parlors.[/QUOTE]But it looks like the Georgia legislators are even dumber than the jackazzes
Here in florida? It's no wonder so few real crimes get 'solved' these days.
Hypocrite jackazzes waste most of their resources battling sin by consenting adults. Well with a name like Cecil, he probably gets off in the closet with an inflatable Sponge Bob toy while his secretary spanks him? Don't try that at
Home either!