The Raleigh area "Sugar Bowl" (SA, WYP, SD4 ME)

[QUOTE=Panama7996;4833738]Babygirllianna245 deposit scam.

Olivas3 deposit scam.

Milliesa deposit scam.[/QUOTE]Saw her from another site WYP about a year ago. MG for 50. She did some kiss and make out in the car. Ran into her again as we live in the same area. And had the same thing. She wanted 500 for the couch. She is real and super hot. Felt was a little amateur and new to this at the time. Looks like she has matured and upped her game to deposits. LOL. Maybe she is worth 500. But I ain't going for that.

Can someone tell me about this girl? Is she a scam or not because she seems pretty real on snapchat.

[QUOTE=Panama7996;4833738]Babygirllianna245 deposit scam.

Olivas3 deposit scam.

Milliesa deposit scam.[/QUOTE]Are you sure she's fake? Because her snapchat seems pretty real time. Please message me if you know anything about Liana!!

[QUOTE=DopeBoii;4835870]Are you sure she's fake? Because her snapchat seems pretty real time. Please message me if you know anything about Liana!![/QUOTE]As in, an actual real girl.

But, your chances of getting to meet her are slim to none. And slim just left town.

[QUOTE=DopeBoii;4835870]Are you sure she's fake? Because her snapchat seems pretty real time. Please message me if you know anything about Liana!![/QUOTE]She wants 700 per week.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/6b60520c-a3b4-463d-b6d4-04e7124e989f[/URL]

[QUOTE=Hiamey;4836950]She wants 700 per week.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/6b60520c-a3b4-463d-b6d4-04e7124e989f[/URL][/QUOTE]In my opinion, Considering her age, and her look, 500 is a reasonable for what appears she can offer. Even better, I would offer Her 2000 for monthly allowance for 6 visits making it very beneficial & worthy mutually if she only agrees to a solo relationship arrangement.

[QUOTE=Hiamey;4836950]She wants 700 per week.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/6b60520c-a3b4-463d-b6d4-04e7124e989f[/URL][/QUOTE]That should cover her food bill. Can she paint or do yard work?

[QUOTE=DfwPussyEater;4837154]In my opinion, Considering her age, and her look, 500 is a reasonable for what appears she can offer. Even better, I would offer Her 2000 for monthly allowance for 6 visits making it very beneficial & worthy mutually if she only agrees to a solo relationship arrangement.[/QUOTE]For that kinda cash.

She's young and lives at home; what bills can she possibly have? (Which also means she can't host.).

Also- how are you going to know she's "exclusive"?

Not from your area but the most active and reliable forum so I thought I ask here for advice. As you know SA is offering 25% discount. Banned about 5 times so I know the drill about new profile hoops to jump through. Problem is Onevanilla payment debit card and zip-code. As you know you must have a valid zip code for SA to take them. I bought both a Visa and and MC today. Neither Onevanilla will let me add a zip code (either on my computer or on the app on my phone). Yes I followed all the directions and never had a problem before. You use to be able to add a zip code but that option is gone now. Called the 800 number (twice no one in the US) told me that option is no longer available since it's an anonymous card and they are not able to add that for me. It's valid and I will use it but shit I can't even use this at a gas pump since they require a zip code. Any advice?

[QUOTE=VincentCor74;4837625]For that kinda cash.

She's young and lives at home; what bills can she possibly have? (Which also means she can't host.).

Also- how are you going to know she's "exclusive"?[/QUOTE]What are you going to do if you find out she is dating 10 other guys. Hahahaha.

[QUOTE=VincentCor74;4837625]For that kinda cash.

She's young and lives at home; what bills can she possibly have? (Which also means she can't host.).

Also- how are you going to know she's "exclusive"?[/QUOTE]Vincent, I know you have been a SD much longer than I have and you probably have a good reasoning when you make a such offer, so no challenge there pal. Having said, if She agrees to 8 visits I am fine with that too But 6 is a win win situation. But, Let me say this: some of these smart SB are not in this life style necessarily to pay off day by day bills. My solo SB that I have on allowance; She is saving up to buy a land, and she already has picked one and putting aside strictly toward that investment. Not all these chicks are struggling for week to week paychecks. I, too, have had my share of Learning a few things in short time that I have been lucky to enjoy this Life style that not all all SBs are so naive that we may think. Moreover, I personally (not trying to sound boasting) tend to enjoy them as conventional way of dating with obviously more extreme intimacy because I am in charge unlike of conventional dating situations. So, I know we are all mongers here but I try to lead my affairs with these SBs at a closest to conventional kind, so I try to keep a balance to this fairness And mutual relation. It could be because I am not married or it also could be partially because of my obsessive compulsive personality that I don't value Benjamin for it's face value. I am not sure but one thing I am sure of I rather pay a little more, take a little less away but enjoy everything in life in an extreme way. To make a wrap here, if a 19 year old hot body gets happier over 50-100 more which in return I take in 500 worth of intimacy than by all means she can have it all, and if 8 (twice a week is unfair to her) I settle for 6 but I will be damn if I don't turn the 6 visits valued for 8 visits. I hope I was able to cross my point here. More power to all.

[QUOTE=VincentCor74;4837625]For that kinda cash.

She's young and lives at home; what bills can she possibly have? (Which also means she can't host.).

Also- how are you going to know she's "exclusive"?[/QUOTE]Ooh I forgot to answer your question about exclusive part: As you know mathematically nothing is at absolute 100%, so obviously my screening can fail too. But in general, I have built a trust with my current ONE that is on allowance. I know where she lives, where she works, I have access to her work telephone number, and she is expected in terms that I lay out to her, she must send me two pictures daily to me. Prefer one in the morning and one at noon lunch time. She needs to answer my texts responded within 20 minutes. Plus, she visits twice per week and one random dates strictly (no intimacy date) per week where we go out to eat or hang out of house. So, I pretty much have plenty of her free time in hands and the rest goes to her daughter and her self. Bear in mind pal, my offer to her is strong enough that she agreed to spot when first time I proposed it. Now even with 19 year old ones living at home if the offer is good enough for them they will remain exclusive. Now is there any margin for error? Of course, but we live to experience what our decisions brings to us. I am hoping to keep mine happy enough that she remains a Loyal SB for long till she buys her land, till then it's a win win situation, LOL.

[QUOTE=Newbie1961;4837665]Not from your area but the most active and reliable forum so I thought I ask here for advice. As you know SA is offering 25% discount. Banned about 5 times so I know the drill about new profile hoops to jump through. Problem is Onevanilla payment debit card and zip-code. As you know you must have a valid zip code for SA to take them. I bought both a Visa and and MC today. Neither Onevanilla will let me add a zip code (either on my computer or on the app on my phone). Yes I followed all the directions and never had a problem before. You use to be able to add a zip code but that option is gone now. Called the 800 number (twice no one in the US) told me that option is no longer available since it's an anonymous card and they are not able to add that for me. It's valid and I will use it but shit I can't even use this at a gas pump since they require a zip code. Any advice?[/QUOTE]My suggestion is use it at Walmart for merchandise.

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I had a very nice night with Liz. For you who like attractive, fit, confident, sexy and classy women you should contact her. Although she has. Been on the site for awhile, she has not done too many meets until recently. She is. Definitely a MILF. I was overtaken by her genuine sexuality. Most times I meet women on SA we go to dinner or have drinks. This time she came straight to my room. We enjoyed wine (her) and beer (me) and had a really cool night.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/33871acd-022f-05fb-1420-cc06fc79de25[/URL]

[QUOTE=Cmcae1;4837896]I had a very nice night with Liz. For you who like attractive, fit, confident, sexy and classy women you should contact her. Although she has. Been on the site for awhile, she has not done too many meets until recently. She is. Definitely a MILF. I was overtaken by her genuine sexuality. Most times I meet women on SA we go to dinner or have drinks. This time she came straight to my room. We enjoyed wine (her) and beer (me) and had a really cool night.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/33871acd-022f-05fb-1420-cc06fc79de25[/URL][/QUOTE]Would like to meet tonight. But impossible on a site like this one.

[QUOTE=VincentCor74;4837625]For that kinda cash.

She's young and lives at home; what bills can she possibly have? (Which also means she can't host.).

Also- how are you going to know she's "exclusive"?[/QUOTE]I won't go too much into details but I try to make it short. This is my monitoring way for my SB: she sends 2 pictures per day one in the morning on the way to work, one around noon time. I know her home address, I know her work address, and I have her direct line to work that I make randomize calls. She has 20 minutes of time frame to return my texts. In plus to number of visitations, random days (a single) weekdays we have conventional days depended on our work schedule to go strictly on a date. So, between her visitation days, Random dinner date out, and texts and phone calls, I monitor quite Her time. The remaining she has to spend with her daughter to herself. So, I have no idea how between her M-F work, and her household chores, And ME she will have any energy to date any more SDs. Plus, I am compensating her way enough I really don't think or hope she would be crazy to break her best deal. So, everyone has a price and a deal to close referring to the 19 year old one. Just have to find her way around how to keep her monitored or happy enough to ease up on monitoring. More power to you, Friend.

[QUOTE=Cmcae1;4837896]I had a very nice night with Liz. For you who like attractive, fit, confident, sexy and classy women you should contact her. Although she has. Been on the site for awhile, she has not done too many meets until recently. She is. Definitely a MILF. I was overtaken by her genuine sexuality. Most times I meet women on SA we go to dinner or have drinks. This time she came straight to my room. We enjoyed wine (her) and beer (me) and had a really cool night.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/33871acd-022f-05fb-1420-cc06fc79de25[/URL][/QUOTE]Liz is probably the best example of what I was talking about earlier. There are so e really, really good girls out there that have been around a bit. And are definitely not any kind of scam.

[QUOTE=DfwPussyEater;4837968]I won't go too much into details but I try to make it short. This is my monitoring way for my SB: she sends 2 pictures per day one in the morning on the way to work, one around noon time. I know her home address, I know her work address, and I have her direct line to work that I make randomize calls. She has 20 minutes of time frame to return my texts. In plus to number of visitations, random days (a single) weekdays we have conventional days depended on our work schedule to go strictly on a date. So, between her visitation days, Random dinner date out, and texts and phone calls, I monitor quite Her time. The remaining she has to spend with her daughter to herself. So, I have no idea how between her M-F work, and her household chores, And ME she will have any energy to date any more SDs. Plus, I am compensating her way enough I really don't think or hope she would be crazy to break her best deal. So, everyone has a price and a deal to close referring to the 19 year old one. Just have to find her way around how to keep her monitored or happy enough to ease up on monitoring. More power to you, Friend.[/QUOTE]I am surprised they would agree to something like that. My first SB was receiving 3 K per month. We dated 5 years but I never put such restrictions o demands on her. Wow. You are one firm dude.

[QUOTE=Hiamey;4838370]I am surprised they would agree to something like that. My first SB was receiving 3 K per month. We dated 5 years but I never put such restrictions o demands on her. Wow. You are one firm dude.[/QUOTE]Hey Hiamey, I am pleased to know there are SBs that would go along for 5 years my friend. I was thinking if I play my dices well, I would be lucky for a year but now you gave me more hopes to be optimistic, LOL. Now, bear in mind, I can not make the same offer to for example LizziRDU (who is married) or Roseykake or those who are Pro- SB. I usually go after fresh, inexperience SBs that they are after some rewards and some extra activities outside of their lives. Those SBs such as Grace & Lizzi are for a short term PPM visits. Plus, level intimacy (which is the most important element to me) with PRO or an Experienced SB Would never get entrapped into a proposal as I have with my SB right now. I know those girls are onto a different wavelength and they have more options for a relation. So, you are right SIR when you define me as a firm person. Let me add this as well, I have a firm screening process too, if one does not comply to it, politely I tell them upfront we are not a match and I move on to next SB. I don't push nor accept to be a fool for toward being inexperienced. But, I make them feel special. Not one time I remember, even if, I did not repeat seeing a SB that I did not encounter with a gift at the time of initial meeting. Always show up with 60-100 gift (bracelets or chain) to gain their approval to give their so called soul from that point on. So far my tactics has worked out real well. Having said that, you are my man to have someone on allowance for 5 years, I could pick up plenty of tips from you Sir. More power to all.

[QUOTE=Saronnie;4838207]Liz is probably the best example of what I was talking about earlier. There are so e really, really good girls out there that have been around a bit. And are definitely not any kind of scam.[/QUOTE]Lots of great points in this conversation. Bottom line is there are plenty of different pathways and opportunities. If you treat girls well, you will likely find what you want.

I am working on this SB under my radar to get her take a bait. She is not my type hot young blonde type, but she would make it interesting for a novice. I am 99.9% she DTF on a first meeting as she has Not been intimate with no man.

For 5 years per her own claim. I have only made an initial contact but I am waiting for her to call me before I give a full report back in here. But I am positive she is legit and dying to explore her sexual horizons and she is in need of financial assistance big time with a child at home.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/88a825a9-1040-41f9-b6fa-54c73b138dea[/URL]

Do any of the legitimate girls on SA use a 3rd party texting service, maybe to disguise their phone numbers? I've gotten used to using carrier lookup and largely discounting anything that comes back as "Enflick / Not wireless", but a few recent chats have drawn that decision in to question.

[QUOTE=jobobtheclown;4838851]Do any of the legitimate girls on SA use a 3rd party texting service, maybe to disguise their phone numbers? I've gotten used to using carrier lookup and largely discounting anything that comes back as "Enflick / Not wireless", but a few recent chats have drawn that decision in to question.[/QUOTE]I would say most of them do.

[QUOTE=jobobtheclown;4838851]Do any of the legitimate girls on SA use a 3rd party texting service, maybe to disguise their phone numbers? I've gotten used to using carrier lookup and largely discounting anything that comes back as "Enflick / Not wireless", but a few recent chats have drawn that decision in to question[/QUOTE]Yes. It applies to Mostly the young groups of ages from 18 to 26 years old. Also, mostly are new to SA & they are only collecting info and are not quite ready to take the bait yet. If you look at the date they joined in you notice this group. Or They are soliciting pictures & videos.

[QUOTE=TriadTraveler;4838853]I would say most of them do.[/QUOTE]Thanks; I might need to reach out to a few I've discounted.

Meanwhile, back to chatting with an 18 year old RNFA who doesn't know what PPE is. *ahem*.

Pretty girl. Said she lives near Burlington.

Quoted me $ 600, though.

Oh, well.

[QUOTE=VincentCor74;4839066]Pretty girl. Said she lives near Burlington.

Quoted me $ 600, though.

Oh, well.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/bdcef2d6-8b80-460f-a14d-219b31d64563[/URL]

She quoted me same 500 in April, and the same in May. She is going up not down.

[QUOTE=RavensFan2012;4830007]I've been talking to them as well and gave me the same $800 each starting point which is absurd. I didn't want to pull the trigger on both until meeting one first but Grace (brunette) was the only one that would go solo so I gave it a shot for 3. 50. Big mistake. When I got to their house Rosey met me who is hot af. When I finally met Grace she was completely wasted, couldn't have just been weed but I figured I'm here so wth. We start fooling around and she was so wasted I just wanted to get it over with. Here's where it gets good. I'm exploring her digitally and turns she has a tampon in! So I did the deed anyway and got the hell out of dodge. I was there for a total of 25 min. A complete ripoff. I would love to see Rosey but she won't meet solo and I'm not wasting money on Grace again just to see Rosey. Probably the worst experience I've had in 4 years in the bowl.[/QUOTE]YMMV, and timing is everything. It seems Rosey has a lot friends and she is the one to be friends with. So far, there is Eva, Emma and Grace. All spinners, Grace is hitting the weed a little to hard. I am sure the others are doing the same. It is fiun is the timing is right.

It's become a real shit show. I'd say 95% are fakes or a complete waste of time. Here is the latest.

Selling pics.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/9a3b8c73-cb07-400a-8563-f3c928a0ac40[/URL]

Rude B.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/5f7e87c4-f052-4cf0-9bb5-659ccf8b3244[/URL]

A total C.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/4d391b6d-ae6d-4237-b8cc-8e06159d3ec7[/URL]

As the add says, full on escort.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/2bf22448-2bef-401d-ae35-4a18401ed170[/URL]

Numerous others, but profiles gone now.

Amazing to me how many don't respond but yet are on constantly.

I've had to report a few profiles recently, not that it will matter. Will exchange numbers and get threatened to be exposed on social media unless I pay up. Happened with two different profiles / phone numbers but I think it's the same person doing the blackmailing.

[QUOTE=SneakyMan;4840359]It's become a real shit show. I'd say 95% are fakes or a complete waste of time. Here is the latest.

Selling pics.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/9a3b8c73-cb07-400a-8563-f3c928a0ac40[/URL]

Rude B.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/5f7e87c4-f052-4cf0-9bb5-659ccf8b3244[/URL]

A total C.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/4d391b6d-ae6d-4237-b8cc-8e06159d3ec7[/URL]

As the add says, full on escort.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/2bf22448-2bef-401d-ae35-4a18401ed170[/URL]

Numerous others, but profiles gone now.

Amazing to me how many don't respond but yet are on constantly.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=AzBadger7;4840383]I've had to report a few profiles recently, not that it will matter. Will exchange numbers and get threatened to be exposed on social media unless I pay up. Happened with two different profiles / phone numbers but I think it's the same person doing the blackmailing.[/QUOTE]Yep, that's another one. My response is FO.

When my subscription expires in a couple of weeks, I'm done.

[QUOTE=Cmcae1;4837896]I had a very nice night with Liz. For you who like attractive, fit, confident, sexy and classy women you should contact her. Although she has. Been on the site for awhile, she has not done too many meets until recently. She is. Definitely a MILF. I was overtaken by her genuine sexuality. Most times I meet women on SA we go to dinner or have drinks. This time she came straight to my room. We enjoyed wine (her) and beer (me) and had a really cool night.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/33871acd-022f-05fb-1420-cc06fc79de25[/URL][/QUOTE]She has done most of Raleigh and half the Executives that visit. She might as well use an escort site, which is SA for her.

Glad you had a good time, but go get checked.

I'll let my subscription lapse as well, may or may not go back. For the monthly membership price, you'd think they'd do a better job verifying the SBs.

[QUOTE=SneakyMan;4840422]Yep, that's another one. My response is FO.

When my subscription expires in a couple of weeks, I'm done.[/QUOTE]

This one must think we are all stupid. She wants money sent to her agency.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/d740669e-bcdb-46fd-9f6c-4812882b4e0e[/URL]

[QUOTE=SneakyMan;4840359]It's become a real shit show. I'd say 95% are fakes or a complete waste of time. Here is the latest.

Selling pics.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/9a3b8c73-cb07-400a-8563-f3c928a0ac40[/URL]

Rude B.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/5f7e87c4-f052-4cf0-9bb5-659ccf8b3244[/URL]

A total C.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/4d391b6d-ae6d-4237-b8cc-8e06159d3ec7[/URL]

As the add says, full on escort.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/2bf22448-2bef-401d-ae35-4a18401ed170[/URL]

Numerous others, but profiles gone now.

Amazing to me how many don't respond but yet are on constantly.[/QUOTE]The site is total scum, hiring bots, 18 year old queens looking for on line only even though they say that's not allowed.

Never once are they removed after being reported. Hundred dollar escorts who think they suddenly are worth $500 or more because they are sugar babies. Could go on and on, don't even know why they are allowed to stay up under the FOSTA laws. Everyone knows they are promoting hooking.

[QUOTE=AzBadger7;4840446]I'll let my subscription lapse as well, may or may not go back. For the monthly membership price, you'd think they'd do a better job verifying the SBs.[/QUOTE]I ended my subscription almost 4 months ago. Couple of girls reached out recently who never replied when it was active. They sent me a message and a couple of days later they texted me. So even after subscription ends will they still be able to read our messages? If that's the case then it makes sense to just blast your number to every girl who even comes close to your matching criteria. That way you don't need to have the subscription for a long time and if interested then girls can reach out via text. Does this makes sense or am I out of my mind.

[QUOTE=JellyBear;4840856]I ended my subscription almost 4 months ago. Couple of girls reached out recently who never replied when it was active. They sent me a message and a couple of days later they texted me. So even after subscription ends will they still be able to read our messages? If that's the case then it makes sense to just blast your number to every girl who even comes close to your matching criteria. That way you don't need to have the subscription for a long time and if interested then girls can reach out via text. Does this makes sense or am I out of my mind.[/QUOTE]Your messages to them don't disappear. Though one girl told me that he hates guys that just send a phone number and little else, expecting them to call or text with little effort on the guy's part. I don't know how successful your strategy can be.

[QUOTE=LikesGirls;4841223]Your messages to them don't disappear. Though one girl told me that he hates guys that just send a phone number and little else, expecting them to call or text with little effort on the guy's part. I don't know how successful your strategy can be.[/QUOTE]I could care less about what the girls don"t like. No matter how nice you are, most never reply.

If you just put your number out there, you'll get some strange messages. You won't know from whom and has happened to me a few times, they threaten to out you or extort you. My response has been FO and block him / her.

[QUOTE=Hiamey;4840672]This one must think we are all stupid. She wants money sent to her agency.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/d740669e-bcdb-46fd-9f6c-4812882b4e0e[/URL][/QUOTE]She's a former hairstylist who just spent a couple months in rehab in the mountains.

I used to see her Semi- regularly and she's a LOT of fun. A little high dollar but kind of a funny, snarky, mean girl type who's fun to have drinks with.

She's working for an agency now?