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[QUOTE=True Critic69]You are a Senior Member and you have never heard of an escrot being hurt?

WOW Im new to this town and have done a lil research and found plenty that have been hurt. [/QUOTE]No, I have not heard of an escort being hurt, I'm sure it's happened but so have retail clerks gotten raped and murdered on the way to their car at night. So percentage wise I don't think it is an overly dangerous profession, in my post I asked the ladies to speak of their experiences and no one so far has anything to report.

Screening is fine if you want to participate, it is a much more common practice in women charging over $1000 per session. Screening is not common at all either from the agency or the woman in the 200-300 range. All professions have risk and my experience is they have more to fear from their associates and the drugs they take than from us.

Most sharp providers don't have much chance of getting arrested if they follow the rules and don't get intimidated easily.

You "did the research" would you mind sharing it with us?

You just sent me a PM accusing me of being sarcastic in a response to you and yet you opened your original query with "isn't that place dirty and seedy?" Thus questioning my judgement. You made that judgement with no data except you impression upon driving by and perhaps an internet rating, when looking for a place to spend an hour all I want is a clean set of sheets and a clean place to wash up, as far as safety the place is wide open to OBT and the Indian that runs it is always present in the open yard. I consider that a snide remark denigrating my judgement.

I don't think crashing onto a board and putting down people who know this town like the back of their hand is smart but do as you wish but it's not going to get you much help or information.

Your opening line in this post is quite a putdown, maybe someday you'll learn that trying to get yourself up by putting down others does not really work, personally I have no desire to communicate with you so don't PM me anymore.-----VS

Yo everyone,
She is the real deal and worth a visit. Great DT skills and a nice tight youthful body. I will definately repeat.
PHFJ Out!

Has anyone sampled this hot lady? She gets an A++ for number of pictures on her ad

[url]http://orlando.craigslist.org/ers/962455304.html[/url]

Website sexyholly.escort24h.com

I think I'm in love

[QUOTE=PokeHerFaceJon]Yo everyone,

She is the real deal and worth a visit. Great DT skills and a nice tight youthful body. I will definately repeat.

PHFJ Out![/QUOTE]I don't disagree, she has pure white skin and is kinda cute, but trust me she is tough, she let me walk when I thought $100 was too much for 15 min., she wouldn't move an inch not even 5 min. However we left on good terms, I could return, but be prepared her place is in a rundown area up Edgewater dr., the house is filthy and smells badly but she was very clean looking, nice christmas tree though. There was some heavy iron in the driveway, one domestic one import so something is up there. Just be prepared for any eventualities, I'm not sure what I mean by that it's just that the place gave me a bad vibe. PHFJ is an experienced monger and if he says she is OK , I'm sure she is.----VS

*** She did say she would cut me some slack if I became a regular. Reg.=5x, also EVERYTHING IS COVERED, GFE is xtra.***

I had a bad vibe from the picture I felt she is tough. I have not seen her. Thanks VS and there's no doubt about PHFJ.

[QUOTE=VerySlowly]I don't disagree, she has pure white skin and is kinda cute, but trust me she is tough, she let me walk when I thought $100 was too much for 15 min., she wouldn't move an inch not even 5 min. However we left on good terms, I could return, but be prepared her place is in a rundown area up Edgewater dr., the house is filthy and smells badly but she was very clean looking, nice christmas tree though. There was some heavy iron in the driveway, one domestic one import so something is up there. Just be prepared for any eventualities, I'm not sure what I mean by that it's just that the place gave me a bad vibe. PHFJ is an experienced monger and if he says she is OK , I'm sure she is.----VS[/QUOTE]

This is a fine lesson indeed, I've seen Andrea on a few occasions and have never had an issuse bad vibe. Was never asked for anything extra other then what was listed. I do consider myself a regular about 2 times a month. I what had the delightful opportunity to meet the driver of the so called "heavy iron" a low brow choice of words in my oppinion. It is indeed a female "cousin" al though they don't play as such. Indeed yes her carpet is in major need of replacing due to her new puppy that has been mentioned in past post. (yes the one who will take your socks and run outside to toss them around. I logged on to day by chance to post about another encounter I'll catch you guys up on at a later date. I'm not here to dissuade from or campaign for (o. K maybe alittle). What I've learned in the past and its happening here. Is that we can all see the same girl on any given day and all have varied reports of the same girl, and we all need to think the only difference in the situation is "us", same girl same locale difference is you and me brothers. Any of you remember what jaye went thru on her last days. The only problem I have with VS's post is, that you went knowing her rates they've never changed yet you went to "haggle" and when she declined you left on good terms. You got a bad vibe and you're willing to "perhaps" returns. Just seems like a low attempt to stir up dust around a girl who only weeks ago was the hit of the board.

[QUOTE=VerySlowly]I don't disagree, she has pure white skin and is kinda cute, but trust me she is tough, she let me walk when I thought $100 was too much for 15 min., she wouldn't move an inch not even 5 min. However we left on good terms, I could return, but be prepared her place is in a rundown area up Edgewater dr., the house is filthy and smells badly but she was very clean looking, nice christmas tree though. There was some heavy iron in the driveway, one domestic one import so something is up there. Just be prepared for any eventualities, I'm not sure what I mean by that it's just that the place gave me a bad vibe. PHFJ is an experienced monger and if he says she is OK , I'm sure she is.----VS

*** She did say she would cut me some slack if I became a regular. Reg.=5x, also EVERYTHING IS COVERED, GFE is xtra.***[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Nemodc]You do realize Ashley Shine is another local lady, who was apparently trying to help out a friend? With problems.

Nemo[/QUOTE]Actually I think I may have overlooked her name, just looked at her post and was like "wtf kinda info are these mongers giving these chics? "

But even then, maybe it's just me, but even with her being a provider, I still trust no one enough to give them my full info. What for?

You are leaving yourself wide open. No need for them to know anything other than what you tell them.

Just my opinion. I'm not down w/ the screening bs, I prefer to remain anonymous.

[QUOTE=FlingLover]This is a fine lesson indeed, I've seen Andrea on a few occasions and have never had an issuse bad vibe. Was never asked for anything extra other then what was listed. I do consider myself a regular about 2 times a month. I what had the delightful opportunity to meet the driver of the so called "heavy iron" a low brow choice of words in my oppinion. It is indeed a female "cousin" al though they don't play as such. Indeed yes her carpet is in major need of replacing due to her new puppy that has been mentioned in past post. (yes the one who will take your socks and run outside to toss them around. I logged on to day by chance to post about another encounter I'll catch you guys up on at a later date. I'm not here to dissuade from or campaign for (o. K maybe alittle). What I've learned in the past and its happening here. Is that we can all see the same girl on any given day and all have varied reports of the same girl, and we all need to think the only difference in the situation is "us", same girl same locale difference is you and me brothers. Any of you remember what jaye went thru on her last days. The only problem I have with VS's post is, that you went knowing her rates they've never changed yet you went to "haggle" and when she declined you left on good terms. You got a bad vibe and you're willing to "perhaps" returns. Just seems like a low attempt to stir up dust around a girl who only weeks ago was the hit of the board.[/QUOTE]
You've pretty much described my experience with Andrea approximately 6 months ago, when she had just moved there. I must say that I had a similar experience a VS' when I visited Andrea's former partner, Ms Audrey. I was under the impression that she did the 15/100 rate. However, to my dismay, she balked at the sum, which was already on the dresser, mind you. We both put our clothes back on, I took back my donation and I left. I had already seen Andrea, and realized that I had the better of the two.

[QUOTE=Nnms46]You've pretty much described my experience with Andrea approximately 6 months ago, when she had just moved there. I must say that I had a similar experience a VS' when I visited Andrea's former partner, Ms Audrey. I was under the impression that she did the 15/100 rate. However, to my dismay, she balked at the sum, which was already on the dresser, mind you. We both put our clothes back on, I took back my donation and I left. I had already seen Andrea, and realized that I had the better of the two.[/QUOTE]I agree as well. I understand that haggling can be half the fun but Audrey and Andrea are just not into it. Andrea has even posted "Don't haggle" in her ads. At least for me, both girls are nice as can be and will go the extra mile in terms of service and fairness. Andrea has gone above and beyond more than once for me. There is much to be said for getting to know her. The other day I asked her for GFE and she told me I was too fat, can't do anything right, and take out the garbage. Well if that ain't GFE I don't know what is.

[QUOTE=VerySlowly]No, I have not heard of an escort being hurt, I'm sure it's happened but so have retail clerks gotten raped and murdered on the way to their car at night. So percentage wise I don't think it is an overly dangerous profession, in my post I asked the ladies to speak of their experiences and no one so far has anything to report.
..............-----VS[/QUOTE]

Sorry you feel like that. But trust me I am not attacking anyone on here. Im just saying that the views are different thats all.

I in no way meant for you to feel disrespected.....what can I say Im from NYC so I come off a lil rough but VS in no way did I mean for you to feel disrespected.

Lets just saw you & I disagree on the whole screening thing.

But I can see your side of it.....the whole provider blackmailing the client thing......

I guess thats why Orlando doesnt really have a good Agencies here......since LEO shut down Girls Next Door.....if you guys dont like screening, it'll be hard for an agency to set up shop cause they won't have any clients.....lol

This is my take on this whole thing:

Agency = screening
Orlando hobbyists = No Screening

Orlando Agency = No clients, no $$$$ (LoL)

Just my opinion

[QUOTE=FlingLover]This is a fine lesson indeed, I've seen Andrea on a few occasions and have never had an issuse bad vibe. Was never asked for anything extra other then what was listed. I do consider myself a regular about 2 times a month. I what had the delightful opportunity to meet the driver of the so called "heavy iron" a low brow choice of words in my oppinion. It is indeed a female "cousin" al though they don't play as such. Indeed yes her carpet is in major need of replacing due to her new puppy that has been mentioned in past post. (yes the one who will take your socks and run outside to toss them around. I logged on to day by chance to post about another encounter I'll catch you guys up on at a later date. I'm not here to dissuade from or campaign for (o. K maybe alittle). What I've learned in the past and its happening here. Is that we can all see the same girl on any given day and all have varied reports of the same girl, and we all need to think the only difference in the situation is "us", same girl same locale difference is you and me brothers. Any of you remember what jaye went thru on her last days. The only problem I have with VS's post is, that you went knowing her rates they've never changed yet you went to "haggle" and when she declined you left on good terms. You got a bad vibe and you're willing to "perhaps" returns. Just seems like a low attempt to stir up dust around a girl who only weeks ago was the hit of the board.[/QUOTE]

Actually, I intended to stay 30 min. for $130 but when I saw and smelled the place I decided a standing quick BJ was all that was indicated and 100 for 15 min. was too much in my opinion.
I never said I would perhaps return, I said I could return meaning there were no harsh words. actually I would never return, it worked out completely to my liking.
If heavy iron is low brow to you, so be it, I suspect you are an expert on low brow, I doubt you have suntanned nostrils. I think maybe you might want to review your posts before putting them up, the syntax and spelling is well... just dreadful.
Glad you brought up Jaye, this place reminded me of her abode, smelly with animal waste in the air. BTW I wrote about her years ago, she wasn't a bad chick just not to particular about her environment, but she was the cheapest on the board at the time.

I don't have anything against this girl, my bad vibe was because of the Ford Expedition and the Jaguar in the driveway in such a low end neighborhood and a dirty house, that vibrates male drug dealer to me and I don't need it. For the fee's she's charging you can move quite a way up the ladder to a clean provider for a few bucks more.

I call it as I see it and your right depending on how far you've evolved will determine what you see and experience.----VS

[QUOTE=True Critic69]Sorry you feel like that. But trust me I am not attacking anyone on here. Im just saying that the views are different thats all.

I in no way meant for you to feel disrespected.....what can I say Im from NYC so I come off a lil rough but VS in no way did I mean for you to feel disrespected.

Lets just saw you & I disagree on the whole screening thing.

But I can see your side of it.....the whole provider blackmailing the client thing......

I guess thats why Orlando doesnt really have a good Agencies here......since LEO shut down Girls Next Door.....if you guys dont like screening, it'll be hard for an agency to set up shop cause they won't have any clients.....lol

This is my take on this whole thing:

Agency = screening
Orlando hobbyists = No Screening

Orlando Agency = No clients, no $$$$ (LoL)

Just my opinion[/QUOTE]


Years ago before the internet, Orlando decided to eliminate them. (remember Disney is here and holds enormous power) So they went after the yellow pages, the Sentinel, and the telephone company (only one Tel. Co. at that time) and got them to agree that this was a front for prostitution and to discontinue to sell them services.

They also went after the agency's tooth and nail and eventually they all left. After that the only place to find independents was the Orlando post (a penny-saver type throwaway paper)there would be 10-20 girls adv. every week but remember Orlando was much smaller at that time. Trust me it was easier to get a chick in a bar than to get a pro in those days, sometimes you could call every number and not get a response. Now there are zillions and lately they are all answering the phone.

Then the Internet came along and all the rules changed.

I'm not against verification for others, only me, I would never give anyone personal info or C.C. numbers, The girls want to protect themselves and so do I.

I had one Tampa girl recommend "Datecheck" and she recommended me and I signed up with no personal info and that is as far as I would go, but then no one has ever asked. Merry Christmas!----VS

The car she drives is about 10 years old and in bad need of some serious TLC. Tons of body work needed. I would know i've traded to barter my way in on that angle as well LOL no go. (tough) From what she told me she got it for right around $2300. So expensive car in a poor nighborhood? Seriously? Did you notice that 2 houses down from her theres late model E class? The expedition her "female" cousin drives with the blazing rebel flag vanitity that reads "heritage not hate" usually always gets my gangbanger spidey senses tingling. (but in V's defense the huge tire/rim combo threw me at first as well).

The deplorable working/living environment you chanced upon during your brief enocounter, i've never in the 3 or 4 months i've been seeing her had the thought man this is a sty. when i show up shes always dressed very nicely, candles and usually shes playing her favorite anime porn. She has recently incorporated a hot stone massage into her 1 hour sessions. You know V i don't really know what you saw that day because we were there on the same day i do believe. I will pravite messege you the day to comfirm, and possibly put this to rest. But perhaps she went on a cleaning spree after you left who knows. Just seems your gripe turned personal. Wasn't meant to be but sure felt that way.

[QUOTE=VerySlowly]In Her original post on here, she said Incall $100, In most cases this means 1/2 hr. The 15 min. thing for the most part is a recent local development. So when I said is the $100 a half she said no 15 min., 130 half 180 hr. She wouldn't budge and thats allright but to me 15 min. is SW $20-50 stuff. She has since modified her post and if you look you will see the bottom of the post indicates that.

I suppose that you think that my use of the initials BJ are really going to get a chick in trouble in the future, are you so ignorant that you think that a girl who advertises on C/L, BP and here is going to be viewed as a choir girl by LE, give me a break and grow up or go home to mommy.

As far as the other information goes, I haven't been robbed or beaten and I've been doing this longer than you have been alive.
I never said anything about gang bangers but expensive cars in a poor neighbor hood and a dirty house don't add up. And yes I've seen some wonderful girls in poor neighborhood's who were neat and clean. What does she do with her money? Actually I don't care, I'm glad you think she is sweet and like tinkerbell but generally if it quakes like a duck and walks like a duck.........
Some others rave about her, so be it.

I give my impression, like it or not, I've been on the board a long time and many people trust my judgement and conversely I trust a lot of other peoples judgments.
This board is about men seeking sex with women and the sharing of any and all the information MEN want to share in that Quest. I think over my posts before I write them and sometimes I edit them if I think I was too hard. My instincts have served me well in the past and if I'm wrong in this case I would rather be wrong than as you say be "beaten or robbed by gang-bangers" or have it happen to anyone on this board. Remember these are your words I never mentioned GANG-BANGERS or BEATEN or ROBBED.---VS[/QUOTE]

I recently had the opportunity to visit GM and I had a very good time. She is friendly, comfortable and confident, and I enjoyed my time with her. Her regular rates are fine but she gives a good deal to those who frequent these forums.

I would and probably will see her again. PM me if you have any questions.

So what's it going to be then, eh?

Normally your humble droog reserves posting my soviet on the local devotchkas for those deserving a less than flattering critique, as it is only fair, since YMMV and we all have our own tastes.

O my brothers and droogies, let us face it. Shitty service is as shitty service does. As Old Luna cycles, we all have our bad days, and our good. But if the preponderance of evidence is that a provider is not worth the time, let alone the money, is that not good for all of us to know?

That being said, your narrator has had the pleasure of making Goddess Maria's acquaintance. She is a devotchk for whom your time will be more than well spent. As your humble droog prefers encounters of a multiple hour kind, the only thing that has prevented me from seeing her of recent has been my employer’s demands and the cost of Christmas shopping. A situation that will soon be rectified.

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