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[QUOTE=Pj2323]Is this the same girl that was in atlanta 5-6 years ago? Where is er? She was from up north somewhere? Any contact info on her?[/QUOTE]Shadowav is referring to "Essential Referrals" (ER). ER is a very reputable agency.
[url]http://essentialreferrals.com/rebecca.html[/url]
Interesting find. The chick from Hush Agency named Caiden is now offering her services independently on BP - [url]http://atlanta.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/tall_beautiful_brunette_love_to_please_not_tease_25/classifieds/ViewAd?oid=1401058[/url]
At least she said it was her when I called. Anyone know differently? Services have been reported to be very good from what I've read.
Thanks for the info. I live out of town and had never heard of er. They have some classy looking girls. This is not the same rebecca that I had seen in the past.
Thanks
Well, I finally found time to see Scarlet at JFLEscorts.com. I've been wanting to see the fiery redhead for a while now, but never could work her in my schedule. Anyway, this girl is young (20 yrs. Old), hot looking redhead with a cute little body. She's around 5' 5" and has a tattoo on her lower back. Nice ass, but wish she had a little bit more back there. Her breasts are perky and I'd say around a 32 or 34 B with small perky pink nipples.
She came in very casual in jeans. After a little 420, we progressed to my room where she revealed she was wearing a body suit underneath. Very hot. She has nice long red hair and has a completely shaved pussy. I wish she had a little red patch, but alas you can't have everything in life. LOL.
She loves having her shaved pussy licked. I happily obliged. I have to say she has quite a dirty mouth which normally is nice, but I think she overdoes this. After a bit, it does begin to sound a little fake and at least for me overbearing. Still from time to time, she does say some hot things. Slipped on the glove and pounded her mish while I frigged her clit. After some Mish varients, I flipped her around and fucked her doggy style till I exploded inside of her. We cleaned up, and after some small talk she left.
I'm a bit conflicted with this one. Yes, she's pretty hot. Yes, her pussy is tight and wet as hell. Yes, she loves receiving oral (I'm a DATY guy). But, maybe it's b/c I just didn't feel that we clicked or what, but her dirty talking just got a bit much for me. It felt like she was trying too hard. Still, I had a good time. Her pussy felt damn good, and I had a great time eating her out.
Looks: 8 to 8 1/2
Personality: 7
Performance: 7
[url]http://www.jflescorts.com/models/all/7912/Scarlet.html[/url]
Even though I had a fun time, I'm not sure I'd see her again. It's probably a personality thing, because I definitely enjoyed fucking and eating her out. Take that what you will.
Well Boyz,
I've dreamed another great greek freak. Angel is the truth if you like trips to the isles. She's sexy smart and really luvs the 3rd road option. Quiet location but she's very cautious so be prepared for the screening. Full covers on all but she got skills. Can take a pounding and luvs it freaky.
Perf: 8
Tude: 8
Damage: 1.5( w/ the option)
Looks: 7
Definitely will repeat as I luv a freaky girl:
[url]http://eroticservices.********.com/index.php?do=view&p=835517[/url]
[url]http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2008/dec/14/economy-affects-supply-demand-some-special-twists/[/url]
Not even prostitution is immune to economics of supply, demand
By Abigail Goldman
The pleasure of Stacie’s company used to cost $450 an hour, but no longer. Her clients were capped at 35 and older; today she’s taking almost anyone. Sex acts once off the menu are suddenly back on — recession specials, served with a side of shrugging compromise.
If she doesn’t do more for less, Stacie says, another prostitute will. And her weekly income is still down by half.
The illegal prostitution economy in Clark County is a multimillion-dollar beast fed by a black market so diverse that it’s impossible to pin down. On one hand, midrange prostitutes like Stacie say they’re being crippled by the economy. On the other, high-end call girls claim they’re not feeling much pain. And the women charging the least reportedly are making the most these days — counterintuitive in an industry where bargains come with risks.
Consider the work of sociologist Sudhir Venkatesh, who surveyed hundreds of high-end prostitutes in New York and discovered that 40 percent of “trades” in the sex economy never went beyond light petting or kissing.
In Las Vegas, the economy’s effect on call girls is even more complicated: The bulk of clients — or johns — here are from out of town, tourists or businessmen who spend days in convention halls and nights in hotel rooms with to-your-door entertainment. These men are bread and butter for local prostitutes, provided the clients come to town. And anybody in the hospitality industry — here that illicitly includes call girls too — can agree that fewer men are flying in, with less money to spend.
Meanwhile, more women reportedly are getting into the business, which creates a classic supply and demand squeeze. An escort agency owner told the Sun he’s getting about 40 interested applicants every day, the majority of whom are women running from the wreckage of lost finance jobs.
Now fold another factor into that dynamic: When the economy is bad, when people feel their mortgages closing in, they seek comfort: alcohol, cigarettes, gambling, pornography and perhaps prostitution.
When all these elements collide in the nebulous economy of escorting, a trend emerges: The Clark County call girl economy has a tipping point — about $650.
In Vegas, prostitutes who charge between $600 and $700 are being hit the hardest. The women (and the smaller number of men in the business) who charge in the $200 to $300 range are doing the same business as before, if not better, according to Susan Lopez, founder of the Sin City Alternative Professionals’ Association for local sex workers. And women who charge thousands of dollars for multi-hour appointments tell Lopez, and the Sun, that they’re not really being affected at all.
Although this is no scientific study — and people should be wary of any numbers that claim to definitively capture any element of the sex-for-pay market — the tipping point does make sense: People tightening their belts are downgrading to cheaper service; people who don’t need to tighten their belts aren’t really doing it at all. If you can buy a Bentley today, the logic goes, you’re probably going to be able to buy one tomorrow.
Or maybe you’ll buy an evening with Rebecca. She’s been a call girl in Las Vegas for several years, after leaving a job in finance behind. Winters are always slow, she says, but overall, the money is good. How good? Her best month was $32,000. An average month is more like $15,000.
“I get a lot of doctors and lawyers and they don’t even blink,” she said. “By January or February I’m fully expecting to raise my rates.”
Her rates, for now, are $2,000 to start. Overnights cost $4,000. Travel and multiple-day excursions are negotiable.
If you don’t believe people would pay that kind of money, consider the case of former New York Gov. Elliot Spitzer, who authorities allege spent $80,000 on escorts in one year, despite having a lot more to lose than the cash.
Call girls difficult to count
Calculating Las Vegas’ call girl economy is, at best, a guessing game. Academics have estimated there are anywhere from 3,000 to 3,500 indoor working prostitutes in Las Vegas at any given time. Imagine, however, that only a fraction of them, say, 1,000, are working year-round. Now imagine that each sees only one client a day, and charges only $300. You still have an annual economy of $109.5 million. Imagine the number of working girls is even smaller — 500 prostitutes charging $250 a day. That’s still more than $45 million a year.
Trace our economy backward from bust to boom and you’ll hit the glory days that helped create the world of high-cost call girls. A glut of new millionaires, paired with a sex industry that seamlessly got online and off the streets, gave birth to agencies such as the Emperors Club — Spitzer’s alleged company of choice, where the cheapest dates still commanded $1,000 an hour.
Writing about this subject, The Wall Street Journal cited a study conducted by wealth research firm Prince & Associates, which surveyed 661 people rich enough to own private jets and found 34 percent of the men and 20 percent of the women had paid for sex. Now extend that group to people who are rich enough to own, say, a beach house, or a Porsche, or their own firm — and you get an idea of just how big the market could be.
Blogging on The Economist Web site, economist Allison Schrager notes that the prostitution market is countercyclical; less attractive and cheaper prostitutes, while available, aren’t always desirable. Prostitution, Schrager says, appears to be what’s called a “Giffen good” — a product for which demand rises with price.
Charging too little has dangers
When financial panic intrudes on the prostitution world, escorts often lower their rates in response, according to Amanda Brooks, author of the Internet Escorts Handbooks. That’s a mistake, she says, not just because established higher-end prostitutes are more immune to economic fluctuations, but because lowering rates changes the kind of clientele call girls attract.
Women who are getting into the industry for the first time also tend to price themselves too low, Brooks said, because they don’t understand that higher rates mean higher quality clients. There’s another side, too — the handful of prostitutes who Brooks says are taking on straight jobs to fill in the gaps between “dates.”
Women who price themselves at the tipping point, $600 or $700 for a few hours’ work, have “always had a difficult time. They’ve always been in a kind of limbo land, between the true high end and the rest,” she said. “Those girls are definitely feeling the crunch.”
For Stacie, who discounted her hourly rate by $100 or more, lowering costs also comes with increasing risks. She is forced to do more outcall work — going to clients’ rooms rather than the having them come to her hotel room, which makes her feel more vulnerable. She also agrees to a wider range of sex acts, which puts her at additional health risk.
“I can’t do this for too many years longer,” she said, “just until I save up enough.
“You always want to be safe, but you’re always lowering your standards.”
In the past, Stacie saved $1,000 a week — on top of the $5,000 she made and spent. Now she’s down to $3,000 and she’s not setting aside any money. Still, that’s an incredibly high salary for most people, which puts the working girls’ woes into context for others struggling with the bad economy.
Stacie and Rebecca, despite the difference in what they charge, are still part of what academics classify as the “indoor” sex trade — the vast majority of the illicit industry, though it’s largely invisible.
“Outdoor” sex workers, the stereotypical streetwalkers, are only 15 percent of the prostitution world, though they represent 85 to 90 percent of the vice arrests, according to a study by Venkatesh and “Freakonomics” author Steven Levitt, who found that street prostitutes in Chicago earn roughly $25 to $30 an hour.
How street prostitutes are faring in Las Vegas is unclear — even women with close ties to the industry, like Rebecca or Lopez, are so far removed from these prostitutes that they don’t know. None contacted by the Sun would agree to talk.
Women who work for escort services also face a strain that independents such as Stacie and Rebecca do not. The escort service charges a base fee of several hundred dollars, and it’s up to the escort to negotiate with the client on top of that — a tip determined upfront. One local escort, reflecting on the economy, said she knew things were getting bad when women who once would walk out of a room for anything less than a $1,500 tip were now hanging around for only a few hundred dollars.
But here’s the irony: When the economy is stable, women who charge midrange fees often end up making more money than call girls serving the high-end clientele, Lopez said. High-end call girl Rebecca makes $15,000 in an average month, but when times are good, Stacie, who charges midrange fees, can clear $25,000 — she just has to hustle much harder for it. It’s a trade-off that plays money against mental health and safety.
If the bad economy does anything to escorting, author Brooks figures, it will be this: Prostitutes will become better at marketing themselves.
“They going to be looking into Web sites, looking into blogging, getting a little more savvy about their marketing,” she said. “And the smart ones will compete for clients in a way that doesn’t impact the girls, not by lowering their prices and by giving more than they feel comfortable with, but by increasing their market savvy.”
One of those is Amber, a New York-based escort available for travel anywhere. She has been flown to Vegas a few times this year, by men who cover her expenses and pay about $5,000 on top of that.
“Vegas is very competitive, and you really feel it,” she said. “I’ve had to be a little more creative, a little more aggressive in my marketing.”
Even then, she added, “I travel the world, but I’m not living as lavishly as I was.”
Ok, so no other webiste eh? Well pick the one thats not CL and not Backpage that begins with c-i-t-y to search on the name Angel. Here's few pix but she doesn't show her face, but the pix do not do her justice (really).
[QUOTE=Max Swag]Well Boyz,
I've dreamed another great greek freak. Angel is the truth if you like trips to the isles. She's sexy smart and really luvs the 3rd road option. Quiet location but she's very cautious so be prepared for the screening. Full covers on all but she got skills. Can take a pounding and luvs it freaky.
Perf: 8
Tude: 8
Damage: 1.5( w/ the option)
Looks: 7
Definitely will repeat as I luv a freaky girl:
[url]http://eroticservices.********.com/index.php?do=view&p=835517[/url][/QUOTE]
Guys,
Just reading today on another website where a hobbyist reported getting set up by a provider back in June. The reason he said he posted (posted on 12/1) now is bec he was under investigation from a state investigator (as well as him job which he ultimatley lost) and was told to keep quiet until the investigation ended.
While I can neither confirm nor deny the accuracy of this report, I thought it at least good to pass along to this board as a word of caution just in case. Since I know I can't provide a link, I have cut and pasted the post for review:
[quote]Beware
Posted by olplayer , 12/1/2008 7:26:57 AM [olplayer has 4 reviews]
A few months ago I posted a review on a provider name Monica. The next day I was called by my Supv. that an investigator from the state police not APD vice but the state was trying to reach me. The provider had set me up. Then she skipped town. I was ordered to not say any thing until the investigation closed. It just closed last week. People be careful. I just lost a job but things could have been worse.[/quote]Continuing with the thread and looking at the actual review I can confirm he did a review of a provider named Monica who has a post on the site thats not CL and not Backpage that begins with c-i-t-y. Another poster did provide a link to the supposed provider and he confirmed it was in fact her.
In sum, still a little new to this board so I may not be aware of all the policies for this one cuz I know each board has it's own individual rules.
Any thoughts?
[QUOTE=Max Swag]Guys,
Just reading today on another website where a hobbyist reported getting set up by a provider back in June. The reason he said he posted (posted on 12/1) now is bec he was under investigation from a state investigator (as well as him job which he ultimatley lost) and was told to keep quiet until the investigation ended.
While I can neither confirm nor deny the accuracy of this report, I thought it at least good to pass along to this board as a word of caution just in case. Since I know I can't provide a link, I have cut and pasted the post for review:
Continuing with the thread and looking at the actual review I can confirm he did a review of a provider named Monica who has a post on the site thats not CL and not Backpage that begins with c-i-t-y. Another poster did provide a link to the supposed provider and he confirmed it was in fact her.
In sum, still a little new to this board so I may not be aware of all the policies for this one cuz I know each board has it's own individual rules.
Any thoughts?[/QUOTE]
Sounds like some bullshit to me. I wouldn't take it too seriously if I were you.
[QUOTE=Dastranger]I've been dying to see Faith, but she only does Incalls and her schedule just doesn't match up with mine (she works during the day). In any case (to make things easier for everyone), if you're looking for Faith's porn videos, just do a search on "Faith Summers."
Here's a random one:
[url]http://handdomination.com/faith-summers.htm[/url][/QUOTE]
Two things.
1. I'm glad her pics on JFL show her with a little more meat on her bones.
2. I had NO idea her ass was that amazing, but I don't know if I want to shell out $300 based on that review. I'll gladly spend money on Cheyenne again though. Goddamn! Why the fuck can't I win the lottery? :(
EDIT: Cheyenne is no longer at JFL! Fuuuccckkk!
[QUOTE=XxATLxX]Ive gotten close to 100 PMs for people wanting the BBFS list, only a handful, 3, wanted it so they could avoid the girls on the list. Glad to see I am not the only one who loves to play BB.[/QUOTE]
Considering that's it's the holiday season, why don't you be a Santa to the board and post these providers so that some of us can AVOID them. I've NEVER had sex without a condom--even with girlfriends. One of the plus sides of paying for pussy early in the game is being as responsible as possible while having fun.
And yes, I know sleeping with total strangers who sleep with strangers for a living is a considerable risk. But I love fucking women so much that I want to live to do it for a looong time. So for the sake of safety-conscious mongers like me who don't want to mainline AIDS, post these lovely gals, will ya?
[QUOTE=Falcone]Considering that's it's the holiday season, why don't you be a Santa to the board and post these providers so that some of us can AVOID them. I've NEVER had sex without a condom--even with girlfriends. One of the plus sides of paying for pussy early in the game is being as responsible as possible while having fun.
And yes, I know sleeping with total strangers who sleep with strangers for a living is a considerable risk. But I love fucking women so much that I want to live to do it for a looong time. So for the sake of safety-conscious mongers like me who don't want to mainline AIDS, post these lovely gals, will ya?[/QUOTE]
Realistically, if you saw a true, comprehensive list of all providers that even occasionally do bbfs, you'd just have to go ahead and hang up your hobbyist hat. I GUARANTEE that you've been eating and tapping occasionally-barebacked pussy many-a-time without realizing it.
If you really want to control risk, you do it client-side. Never kiss, never eat a hoe out, never accept a bbbj and always use a condom - or better, double-cover. Then you won't need to see a list.
Here's a hint - if a girl is really GFE, really gets into fucking, really likes servicing the client, then she loves to fuck, and I promise she sometimes forgets herself and offers bbfs. It's practically axiomatic.
You don't need a list to mitigate risk.
O.
[QUOTE=Max Swag]Guys,
Just reading today on another website where a hobbyist reported getting set up by a provider back in June. The reason he said he posted (posted on 12/1) now is bec he was under investigation from a state investigator (as well as him job which he ultimatley lost) and was told to keep quiet until the investigation ended.
While I can neither confirm nor deny the accuracy of this report, I thought it at least good to pass along to this board as a word of caution just in case. Since I know I can't provide a link, I have cut and pasted the post for review:
Continuing with the thread and looking at the actual review I can confirm he did a review of a provider named Monica who has a post on the site thats not CL and not Backpage that begins with c-i-t-y. Another poster did provide a link to the supposed provider and he confirmed it was in fact her.
In sum, still a little new to this board so I may not be aware of all the policies for this one cuz I know each board has it's own individual rules.
Any thoughts?[/QUOTE]
As a personal rule, I'd avoid her just because obviously there is some kind of drama around her, and I'm allergic to drama. And I don't like sneezing.
That said, a john collar isn't worth the complication of involving a provider in a sting, unless it's something really unusual (like drugs involved.) A john sting is a female undercover LEO. They aren't even charges which really stick unless the john is some street dumbass who's too stupid or poor to afford and attorney - john stings are pure harassment that work by interfering with the sex economy more than actually designed to result in prosecutions. Even the girls themselves usually are fined for "no escort permit".
That said I would never, ever, ever invite a hoe into my car or house, because she's probably carrying drugs, and that's a RICO impoundment waiting to happen - not to mention it's easier for you to leave a drama scene than it is to remove someone else from it.
As far as the post you referenced, that's a sad breed of hobbyist who loves drama - oh yes, I'm sure his prolific dipping-dick is a subject of State interest, hehe. Pure CL drama.
O.
[QUOTE=Falcone] I'll gladly spend money on Cheyenne again though. Goddamn! Why the fuck can't I win the lottery? :(
EDIT: Cheyenne is no longer at JFL! Fuuuccckkk![/QUOTE]
Cheyenne is now independent with a decent half rate.
[url]http://sensualcheyatlanta.com[/url]
[QUOTE=Swernon]Cheyenne is now independent with a decent half rate.
[url]http://sensualcheyatlanta.com[/url][/QUOTE]
$200 half hour rate.