Bullshit that has Nothing to do With Pussy

[QUOTE=SaltyDogUsn;5189573]What would he even give them? Cops are not interested in clients. They want to make sure the girls were not coerced. Most of all they want to charge the owner with conspiracy, money laundering, tax evasion, promoting prostitution. He has nothing to offer the cops and will end up losing his money and other assets. The girls will jump to other agencies or become independent. Life will go on. Unless he has info on a much bigger crime he has nothing to trade the cops for a reduced sentence.[/QUOTE]So to be clear I said that that is one agency owner who based on his posts I would expect to keep his mouth shut with the cops. No agency owner has ever been asked about their clients or anything else illegal or ever given any information regarding clients, girls or illegal money, drugs, etc to the cops to help themselves out of a jam so your post is an excellent reminder to us all that they are trustworthy people for your personal information. Thanks for the reminder with your second post.

[QUOTE=Chicagorfp;5186840]Here's what I used to do: go into a store like Walgreens and get the cheapest phone from a carrier that offers a prepaid plan and then a scratch-off card with some airtime ($10, $25, whatever). Once I had the phone and the scratch-off card, I'd pop the SIM into the phone and power it on. There were instructions as to how to choose a plan--I recall that all they wanted was a ZIP code so you could be issued a reasonably local number (so if you entered downtown Chicago, 60606, then you'd get a 312 or 773 number or the like), and then you entered a sequence on the keypad to indicate what plan you wanted. Afterwards you'd power the phone off and back on, then a (free) text message would pop up showing your new number.

You just told me a zillion thi gs I didn't know! Thanks!

At that point the phone has zero airtime, so then you get the code from your scratch-off card (like using a lotto ticket) and enter that into the phone: after that you'll get a text message showing your airtime (amount and date of expiration). To avoid losing unused airtime, reload before the expiration date. If you let it remain in a lapsed state for too long, the service will be canceled and you'll no longer be able to make calls and use text messages. Then you'll have to go back to Walgreens but instead of buying the whole phone you just buy a SIM kit: the little chip that goes in the phone so you can get service. When you put the SIM in, you're back to having to choose a plan and supply a ZIP code so you get a fresh number. Then load some more airtime and you're back in business.

I could buy the phone, the airtime cards, and new SIM kits without ever showing ID. Cash only--I didn't have it set to any sort of autopay. The plan I had at the time charged a flat $2 per day if the phone was used at all on a given day (and I think they defined use as placing or receiving a call, and perhaps sending text messages--it's been awhile so I forgot). Hopefully some of this helps![/QUOTE]You told me a lot! Thanks!

[QUOTE=Moejoo;5190153]So to be clear I said that that is one agency owner who based on his posts I would expect to keep his mouth shut with the cops. No agency owner has ever been asked about their clients or anything else illegal or ever given any information regarding clients, girls or illegal money, drugs, etc to the cops to help themselves out of a jam so your post is an excellent reminder to us all that they are trustworthy people for your personal information. Thanks for the reminder with your second post.[/QUOTE]You don't seem to understand how the system works. You think this ECE owner won't spill the beans if pressured by LE. He will. They all do. That's why the mafia was crushed. Nobody wants to do time. However the police operate in a manner where they need bigger fish if you are trying to get a reduced sentence. The client list is not important to LE. Unless the owner has some high value information he will end up doing the time.

In this hobby the client and girls are low value targets. Good for news and egos but rarely result in a felony. However the owner is facing multiple felonies. He is the "Big Fish". Not you. Not the girls. So if you are using a service and you are worried about risk, well the risk is low for you and high for the owner. If LE was interested in clients then maybe ECE would have some leverage. But this isn't the case. So if ECE goes down he won't be giving you up because the cops don't want you. You are nobody to them. They don't care about this info. He would sell you out in a heartbeat if it were advantageous. But it's not.

I'm trying to figure out how she thought this photo on EB was going to be useful and I'm trying to figure out who would see that photo and think: "Yes, she's the one I want to pay. ".

[URL]https://img2.lodef.net/imgs/f/9/7/3/f973936d2dce71cc2e829c52df6358a9_f.jpg[/URL]

[QUOTE=SaltyDogUsn;5191347]You don't seem to understand how the system works. You think this ECE owner won't spill the beans if pressured by LE. He will. They all do. That's why the mafia was crushed. Nobody wants to do time. However the police operate in a manner where they need bigger fish if you are trying to get a reduced sentence. The client list is not important to LE. Unless the owner has some high value information he will end up doing the time.

In this hobby the client and girls are low value targets. Good for news and egos but rarely result in a felony. However the owner is facing multiple felonies. He is the "Big Fish". Not you. Not the girls. So if you are using a service and you are worried about risk, well the risk is low for you and high for the owner. If LE was interested in clients then maybe ECE would have some leverage. But this isn't the case. So if ECE goes down he won't be giving you up because the cops don't want you. You are nobody to them. They don't care about this info. He would sell you out in a heartbeat if it were advantageous. But it's not.[/QUOTE]Currently you have 3 posts and 2 of them are wanting to bicker with me about an agency owner. I look forward to your future contributions.

I'll take the service, thanks, so I'm with you on that.

1) If she doesn't do (or let me do) what I like, it doesn't much matter how hot she is.

2) Bragging rights really aren't a thing with escorts.

3) You don't have to spend $500 -$1000 for a good time with a decent looking girl, from the reviews here it seems like $350 to $400 you can get some early 20's model-grade poon at one of the agencies. (Well, maybe now it takes $500 to get the early 20's stuff, I'm not sure, because so far, I refuse to spend that kind of money. Although I'm not ruling it out in the future.) And if you do pony up the $350+, you'll certainly be spending less time writing in the Ripoff Reports thread than I do. 😭.

I've had some pretty good times with some pretty hot escorts without getting anywhere near $500, but it's work, sometimes a real PITA, plus you need to get lucky.

But many of the best times have been with girls who weren't going to be winning beauty contests, but had great attitude, service, responsiveness, and a good menu.

[QUOTE=Ump1969;5186234]I was reading the Tijuana board and perusing comments on the virtues of great service providers versus really hot chicks. It got me to wondering. It might even be considered a stupid question, considering the lack of talent in this city unless you come up with really big bucks- like $500 or $1000. But that's ok-I have a low opinion of my own intelligence. What is the preference of Chicago guys if you could choose? Would you rather have the really hot chick so you could brag about her being with you? Or would you rather have the average looker that gives you great service? I'm not talking about the scab-covered fugglies you mostly see on the streets anymore, though you can throw them in if you want. I guess I'll post first since I brought it up. I can see all the hot girls on the Internet that I want. I don't need a great looking rubber doll in my car and I'd rather have great service than the looker I can brag about. [/QUOTE]

I think a good portion of the E. M. Reviews are written by guys like HanginBalls. A lot of the guys in those are total studs that have the girls begging for more.

One of those guys talked of all the sex positions he ran through with the girl, and he mentioned a couple I haven't heard of and I couldn't find them in the abbreviations here, or at urban dictionary, or via Google.

One was: "angel's paw".

The other one was: "goat on the edge".

If you want to read about this stud's adventures and have an E. M. Account, here's the URL. He's clearly a legend in his own mind.

[URL]https://www.eroticmonkey.ch/sassy-escort-chicago-267923-review-1301476[/URL]

[QUOTE=GeorgeStark;5197366]I think a good portion of the E. M. Reviews are written by guys like HanginBalls. A lot of the guys in those are total studs that have the girls begging for more.

One of those guys talked of all the sex positions he ran through with the girl, and he mentioned a couple I haven't heard of and I couldn't find them in the abbreviations here, or at urban dictionary, or via Google.

One was: "angel's paw".

The other one was: "goat on the edge".

If you want to read about this stud's adventures and have an E. M. Account, here's the URL. He's clearly a legend in his own mind.

[URL]https://www.eroticmonkey.ch/sassy-escort-chicago-267923-review-1301476[/URL][/QUOTE]Isn't there a direct URL to the post without doing signup for E. M. ?

[QUOTE=ManuelJellison;5198165]Isn't there a direct URL to the post without doing signup for E. M. ?[/QUOTE]That is a direct link, if you have a paid membership and you are logged in. Their setup doesn't remember your login across browser sessions, so you need to be logged in first.

In any case, here's the relevant part:

[QUOTE=some_bullshitter]I ... started kissing every inch of her skin, her breasts, her belly, her crotch, her legs and even her fingers, she squirmed with every caress of my tongue, kept it up until she begged me to take her... let her beg me until she couldn't take it anymore, I put on a condom and got on ... you had to see the expression on her face, She was knocking on heaven's door, We fucked on every imaginable form, missionary, angel's paw, doggy, goat on the edge...[/QUOTE]As I said: a legend in his own mind. I suppose it's not impossible that some guy got an escort to act like that, but it seems *very highly* improbable. Or maybe it was real good acting on her part. I like to make girls come, but I don't assume that I have unless I've felt or seen the expected contractions, no matter what the girl says. Some of them lie, just to get you out of there, a few without even trying to fake it. Very annoying, but it's a mistake not to expect some of that. Some chicks just don't really get into it, at least not with me, and I'm assuming I'm not the only one.

P.S. [b] Still want to know what these are:

One was: "angel's paw".

The other one was: "goat on the edge".
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I need someone to help me understand what's the fascination with DATY or even DATO with a SW. Yeah I'm ok with it with the S / O but a total stranger, especially one who is mostly non-discriminatory (expect for cash) I can't imagine many of these girls have been tested regularly and 100% safety isn't their priority (many will BB for the right price or if their high) so is it worth the risk? Frankly because most do BBJ I'm not even willing to LFK or DFK with them. So what's your take.

[QUOTE=Bishop69;5199373]I need someone to help me understand what's the fascination with DATY or even DATO with a SW. Yeah I'm ok with it with the S / O but a total stranger, especially one who is mostly non-discriminatory (expect for cash) I can't imagine many of these girls have been tested regularly and 100% safety isn't their priority (many will BB for the right price or if their high) so is it worth the risk? Frankly because most do BBJ I'm not even willing to LFK or DFK with them. So what's your take.[/QUOTE]Every guy has their comfort level. I just do things that I'm comfortable with. Just depends on what risk you're willing to take. As the saying goes "No Risk No Reward".

[QUOTE=ManuelJellison;5198165]Isn't there a direct URL to the post without doing signup for E. M. ?[/QUOTE]I'm assuming you are asking for a direct link to her profile. No clue on the review as I don't have the premium but link is below.

[URL]https://www.eroticmonkey.ch/sassy-escort-chicago-267923[/URL]

[QUOTE=RonM;5199393]Every guy has their comfort level. I just do things that I'm comfortable with. Just depends on what risk you're willing to take. As the saying goes "No Risk No Reward".[/QUOTE]I can totally understand that however I can see any possible reward in that scenario now I'm sure for some guys it's the thrill or just something they like to do however I treat this like a trip to the post office I'm there to drop off a package I am respectful to them because they are human but to be honest I see them as just a sperm depository I don try to build anymore of a relationship with them that I do the girl at the checkout at Walmart if I see them a secorn or third time yay but if I never see them again hey I'll take my money else where, but that\s just my opinion and like we say opinions are like assholes.

[QUOTE=Bishop69;5199373]I need someone to help me understand what's the fascination with DATY or even DATO with a SW.
.[/QUOTE]So, it somewhat depends on whether SW is Sex Worker or StreetWalker. I'm pretty unlikely to do any of that eith a StreetWalker. I won't say I never have. I've done all sorts of crazy stuff LOL. Or never will, but it's far less likely.

I'm obviously happier doing those with a girl who I believe doesn't do anything bare, or at least not BBFS or bb anal, and there have been periods of time where I did that, I believe (trusting what the girl says. Uggh). But *I* often want BBBJ and sometimes bare everything, so I can't claim consistency. My risk calculations have varied widely over the years, from zero fluid exchange to I want to do everything.

I do think the odds of HIV infection via performing oral is pretty low. There's other stuff to think about, but HIV is the main one for me.

Trying to untangle individual sexual preference and risk calculation is always going to be difficult.

[QUOTE=GeorgeStark;5200269]So, it somewhat depends on whether SW is Sex Worker or StreetWalker. I'm pretty unlikely to do any of that eith a StreetWalker. I won't say I never have. I've done all sorts of crazy stuff LOL. Or never will, but it's far less likely.

I'm obviously happier doing those with a girl who I believe doesn't do anything bare, or at least not BBFS or bb anal, and there have been periods of time where I did that, I believe (trusting what the girl says. Uggh). But *I* often want BBBJ and sometimes bare everything, so I can't claim consistency. My risk calculations have varied widely over the years, from zero fluid exchange to I want to do everything.

I do think the odds of HIV infection via performing oral is pretty low. There's other stuff to think about, but HIV is the main one for me.

Trying to untangle individual sexual preference and risk calculation is always going to be difficult.[/QUOTE]Oh no this entire hobby is very risky in some way or another so you mitigate your risks as much as you can however my query is a little more focused specifically targeting the acts of DATY & DATO (I'd even add LFK / DFK) on a woman of questionable hygiene and dubious honesty those seem to be the risker activates because they are done usually without protection and can carry hidden dangers not readily exposed as you typical STI's and like another member said the risk vs reward scale, to me those are just as risky as BBFS and BB anal can be but even more so because of the ease of transmitting oral STI is easier outside the hobby.