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HI there all
I'm from australia and I'm off to SF in a couple of months, and was wondering if people could tell me the best strip clubs to go to as well as massage parlours (preferably asian, or black), and rougly how much it will cost me.
Thanks guys
Dan
Asho1968@hotmail.com
Cops, D.A. tangle over strip club raids
Phillip Matier, Andrew Ross
Monday, July 12, 2004
More sparks are flying between San Francisco police and District Attorney Kamala Harris -- this time over the D.A.'s refusal to prosecute nine women the vice cops arrested on prostitution charges during raids at a couple of "theater" clubs a few weeks back.
"It just leaves me in amazement,'' says vice Capt. Tim Hettrich, who likened the D.A.'s inaction to "almost legalizing prostitution.''
The D.A.'s office sees it a bit differently -- calling the arrests "business as usual'' and saying that while the cops were all too eager to arrest the women, they all but ignored the club's owners and the alleged johns.
If it all sounds a bit political, that's because it is.
Sex clubs have long been a tricky proposition in liberal San Francisco politics. For years, the attitude -- especially under libertine former D.A. Terence Hallinan -- seemed to be, "Don't ask, don't tell,'' especially at clubs whose owners were involved in local politics.
Plus, there's always been the question of whether prostitutes are criminals or victims.
Then, when the new D.A. came into office, the vice squad -- under the supervision of Fajitagate hyper-investigator Joe Dutto -- decided the time had come to start a cleanup. He called the club prostitution "out of control.''
The first step was to send letters to a couple of dozen strip clubs warning that investigators would be checking on their business licenses and permits.
The cops' move apparently set off an alarm at the D.A.'s office. Because the next thing you know, everyone was having a sit-down at which the cops agreed to back off until Harris could come up with a game plan that included the police and the city attorney -- after ironing out such issues as "abuse of the dancers, police misconduct during arrests and selected enforcement,'' according to a D.A.'s statement.
And while the cops waited ... and waited ... the public complaints kept coming in. Eventually, they decided to move on their own.
A pair of stings followed, one at the Market Street Theater and the other at the New Century Theater on Larkin Street. In each case, three undercover officers said they were solicited for sex acts by female employees within minutes.
In all, nine women were arrested -- and so was the male general manager of the New Century, who was booked for allegedly keeping a house of ill repute.
The cops said they were slam-dunk cases, but Harris' office took one look at the arrests and tossed them all.
And the bad-mouthing began.
The D.A.'s office says that the cops acted out of hand and that rather than wasting time and money on raiding clubs, they should be on the streets fighting more serious crimes.
In fact, Harris' office said in its statement, "We have had no arrests of street-level pimps and johns.''
"That's an outright lie,'' countered Dutto, who says the cops arrest 50 to 70 johns every month. He also said juveniles picked up for prostitution are routinely interviewed in an attempt to get them to turn on their pimps.
As for the club raids, the cops say they were just doing their jobs.
"When we went out there, we found girls who were engaging in acts of prostitution in the (illegally enclosed) booths, and that's why we took action, '' Hettrich said.
This being San Francisco, there's always another card in the deck somewhere. In this case, it's the feeling in the D.A.'s office that the cops are trying to use busts as a way to embarrass Harris for her refusal to bring a death penalty case against the alleged killer of Officer Isaac Espinoza, a popular cop who was shot to death in the Bayview this past spring.
Hettrich called the "payback'' spin "absolutely B.S.''
Maybe, but it does underscore the still-testy feelings between the two camps down at the Hall of Justice.
DanTheMan:
As far as I am concerned (IMHO), the best massage parlour in SF in Sun Spa on the corner of Geary & Hyde. Ask for Young, he is terrific!
Three X
That would count as a competing forum. Delete. I hate tourist trying to be experts in LA.
Peace
James
Woodman
Hopefully you had a typo in your advise to DanTheMan:
You said, "Ask for Young, HE is terrific". Hopefully you meant SHE is terrific !! Sorry, but since this advice comes from SFO, you need to clarify your advice for our out-of-country mongers who may not be aware of liberal SFO.
Had a good time in S.F. during the July 4th weekend. The strip club scene is alive and kicking. Treated myself to a hot latina stripper with a sweet ass and perfectly trimmed, pink p***y. She spent over 12 hours with me and none of it outdoors. All services except anal. Everything covered. Total cost $700. I know I probably spent a bit too much, but it had been a while and a man has to live a little sometimes.
Question:
What's the going rate for FS at places like GoldenFlower, Lee's and Lucky's? I'm a SoCal kind of guy going up to the Bay area this weekend, and want to make sure I'm paying industry standard rates.
Thanks!
G Kelly
The going rate for these places are about 160-200 depending on service. Lately I have found Lucky Spa to be a very nice place to visit especially with mamasan Connie at the helm. I've been a lon g time customer of her's and now that she is managing her own place it's just seem nature for me to have her pick out the ones for me. They have a very good lineup so enjoy the pickings.
Lee's have really dropped in quality and the wear and tear on the facilities are very apparent. GF is still amongst the better lineup in the city. All of these places range in the price given above.
I have not been to King's, which I've heard some good things about. So good luck if you do try. But I must say one thing. AMP up here in SF are way better than the ones anywhere else in the States. Never been to the ones in NY. But of the ones I've been to SF AMP are just so much relaxed in nature, great service and at an reasonable price for FS.
Hope you have a great time!
I'm a long time viewer of the WSG, its about time I start contributing some information on the board. Thank you Jackson for giving me this opportunity.
G Jelly,
If you are asian and look like you know what you are doing, the standard rate is $150 for everything (massage house fee and tip) at places like Lee's and Golden Flower. I don't know if not being asian actually cost more anymore. I have heard that it may not. When you come in to any of the places and they ask you if it's your first time, just say no. Make up one of the names of ladies you have heard of before if they ask and try to get a seat to make your own selection.
Have you guys tried Palm Trees. I find the service to be really good. GF has the quality girls but they really rushed you there.
I went to Palm Trees a few weeks ago and the service was really great. Had one girl Michele. About a 6 in looks and 7 in body but a 9 in service. She started a little bbbj at the tip and then cbj. After sex, she went down and tried to get me going again. But I was tire. She waited a few minutes and asked if I wanted to try again but she was my second that nite. Good service.
Went mongering last night, in the teens. What a disappointment. The first pair I saw were both 2s, and I’m generous with my numbers. One looked like a walking, embalmed corpse. The other had to be 50, if she was a day—and I don’t mean just worn out, though she was that too. Saw another grandma who I’d picked up before, not quite so horrific (probably decent looking when she was younger), but borderline nuts so I passed. Another lady looked good from a distance, well dressed, but up close I saw that she had few teeth and look ridden hard and put away wet. Saw a nice-looking girl, 18-20, who might have been working, but by the time I got around the block I saw her walking away with some frat dick looking dude. Saw a couple of punk rockers in the alley near the roach coach, not sure if they were working either, but when I circled around one had disappeared. The other did make eye contact when I came back around, and she wasn’t bad looking, but she looked angry and scary. I passed. Finally saw a heavy-set black girl, late teens, who made eye contact, but she also looked angry. I wasn’t ready to take chances last night, so I went home.
Visited Lucky Spa last night, picked Mimi out of the line up cute Korean about 25 years old. slim, perky tits, and beautiful eyes. I would give her a 8.5/10 looks and 8/10 body and 9/10 service.
She gave a really good strong massage followed by a titty massage all over my body with some light licking. Wow just thinking about it turns me on. Proceeded with a decent cbj with licking up and down my shaft. Went on to a cowgirl position, she just never stopped or asked to change into a missionary position. I had to turn her over to finish doggy style. She was getting so wet that when I was laying there my legs were all wet.
I will return maybe tonight, who knows? But I would recommend her. There were some real lookers in the line up, so I'm sure I might be tempted to try others. Cost was $160 so pretty reasonable.
Happy hunting
Just got back from my trip. I got taken care of at GF for $160, and at King's for $150. The girl (Julie? Ruby?) at King's told me that the best time to come was around 10pm, so she wouldn't be so tired next time. Still, a good time was had by all.
Was cruising down Larken street at 6pm. I seen this beautiful Philipeno or Thai street walker. Maybe 21 years old. C cup size and bubble butt. She waved to me. I parkes and came back 10 minutes latter. She was in the alley talking to this guy. I was surprised she buttoned up her top. Later I seen that guy stand ing one block down the street watching her. The were cops and he was undercover. I was fooled. Good thing I passed on this one she was so tempting. Just wanted to give the heads up.
Why do some providers perform bbbj's, even though they don't have it on their menu, and based on previous reviews, haven't performed it in the past?
{yes, I did get a bbbj from a well known amp girl}