Non Pro's

I have some observations from SA.

Don't pay more than 250 give or take, if they don't want to play then just wait, I have had many girls been texting me that originally didn't want to go to my price and now they do.

Many do have their own place, if you don't want to meet at a hotel don't, or have them pay for it from money you give them, don't put your name on shit.

I have had several not open to BBFS so I just passed and went to others.

Try to move the conversation right to text, most I have communicated with have their original profiles gone.

This is just my observations and what I do, and it has worked for me.

Victoria206.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/e5c21740-a933-4e7c-b3aa-ed7daeef7483[/URL]

Victoriavixen206.

[URL]https://www.tnaboard.com/member.php?255188-victoriavixen206[/URL]

Silkriot.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/acdc01a2-ae38-4b0c-a532-faf35078ed94[/URL]

Myla. Silk.

[URL]https://www.tnaboard.com/member.php?343709-myla-silk[/URL]

Tristansmile.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/b86e66f9-70fa-4685-9561-d71eca724aef[/URL]

MistressTristan.

[URL]https://www.tnaboard.com/member.php?340165-MistressTristan[/URL]

Sprinkle mee_sosa.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/58e35c12-97ca-4bd8-9e61-e336da8fedb5[/URL]

[URL]https://cityxguide.com/escorts/206-678-3552__1522861208-11498038[/URL]

Chase Banks.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/0307ef1b-92e5-4d54-a09a-c40d5290a6b7[/URL]

[URL]https://www.tnaboard.com/member.php?336775-Chase-Banks[/URL]

These two I had seen their profiles in TNA, but I could not find them again.

Moedelicious.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/7c8053f1-c455-4169-9339-5b8f17d58849[/URL]

MsJones5.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/b33a7...a-970667f9a0aa[/URL]

Not hard evidence but they acted like pros.

Starbaby08.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/c17d9b63-5ffc-4de4-9fe1-dc00f30f1ae0[/URL]

This one I saw; Escort language: donation by the hour, upcharge for greek.

Delightful Dahlia.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/a559b669-0d25-486f-b8c2-709d2fa8865a[/URL]

She referred to herself as a sex worker, crazy johns vs hoes mentality.

She overslept for a coffee date at a Starbucks, I waited then refused to come and meet me because you are mad because I make you wait and "Men that pay for sex might rape when they are mad" WTF. Stay away from that one.

Funsizelilmama.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/4164ee22-51f3-4770-b9cf-a8c168c976b8[/URL]

Escort language: donation by the hour, the more you want to do the more donation, etc.

[QUOTE=DelToro;3964285]Victoria206.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/e5c21740-a933-4e7c-b3aa-ed7daeef7483[/URL]

Victoriavixen206.

[URL]https://www.tnaboard.com/member.php?255188-victoriavixen206[/URL]

Silkriot.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/acdc01a2-ae38-4b0c-a532-faf35078ed94[/URL]

Myla. Silk.

[URL]https://www.tnaboard.com/member.php?343709-myla-silk[/URL]

Tristansmile.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/b86e66f9-70fa-4685-9561-d71eca724aef[/URL]

MistressTristan.

[URL]https://www.tnaboard.com/member.php?340165-MistressTristan[/URL]

Sprinkle mee_sosa.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/58e35c12-97ca-4bd8-9e61-e336da8fedb5[/URL]

[URL]https://cityxguide.com/escorts/206-678-3552__1522861208-11498038[/URL]

Chase Banks.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/0307ef1b-92e5-4d54-a09a-c40d5290a6b7[/URL]

[URL]https://www.tnaboard.com/member.php?336775-Chase-Banks[/URL]

These two I had seen their profiles in TNA, but I could not find them again.

Moedelicious.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/7c8053f1-c455-4169-9339-5b8f17d58849[/URL]

MsJones5.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/b33a7...a-970667f9a0aa[/URL]

Not hard evidence but they acted like pros.

Starbaby08.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/c17d9b63-5ffc-4de4-9fe1-dc00f30f1ae0[/URL]

This one I saw; Escort language: donation by the hour, upcharge for greek.

Delightful Dahlia.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/a559b669-0d25-486f-b8c2-709d2fa8865a[/URL]

She referred to herself as a sex worker, crazy johns vs hoes mentality.

She overslept for a coffee date at a Starbucks, I waited then refused to come and meet me because you are mad because I make you wait and "Men that pay for sex might rape when they are mad" WTF. Stay away from that one.

Funsizelilmama.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/4164ee22-51f3-4770-b9cf-a8c168c976b8[/URL]

Escort language: donation by the hour, the more you want to do the more donation, etc.[/QUOTE]Did any give you their rates or did you compare to their TNA profiles?

[QUOTE=BrstMan;3964676]Did any give you their rates or did you compare to their TNA profiles?[/QUOTE]Myla / Silkriot and I communicated on SA. Her "rates" were much lower on SA. TNA she was advertising 400/ hr. SA was 300/ hr. I was going to pull the trigger but couldn't make schedules align. She was also hinting towards Raw. Even for for oral TNA says no.

I am not sure Chasebanks and Chase from SA are one in the same. I communicated via text and the numbers was different than what was on TNA. Although I will admit the discussions were very "TNA" like.

Interested in hearing if anyone has had experience with Victoria. I messaged her on SA but no response. She has also never advertised on TNA.

MsJones was indeed on TNA. She was advertising 350/ hr. She visited me on SA for 300 and stayed several hours. Everything covered but oral. We ordered a pizza and drank Whiskey in between but still had time for 4 rounds of fun. I doubt that happens with a TNA transaction.

From what I have found is "rates" are lower on SA. And limits are less. Only experienced the one cross over in person though.

Does anyone have any experience with this one?

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/06e10482-34e5-0052-a182-1e78061f8dd0[/URL]

As with most communication through SA was slow at first. But quickly sped by moving to text. She was first looking for $5 to $7 for an hour long meet. I almost spit out my drink. I have been communicating off and on for the better part of a week and number dropping and meet time increasing. Number does not give any hits. Pictures show up through handed search to a site called escort site called sipsap. But can't find any adds. Sent picture through text with date and requested note. Spidey senses tingle a little bit but little head keeps whispering. Rather than take an unnecessary risk I though I would ask.

[QUOTE=BrstMan;3964676]Did any give you their rates or did you compare to their TNA profiles?[/QUOTE]I prefer to discuss arrangement amounts in person, preferably after I had fucked them. For the ones with * profiles, the ones that wanted to discuss the arrangement beforehand were Victoria206 and Silkriot. My standard offering in SA is 200, Victoria replied that would buy you HH, around her TNA donation, so I passed.

Silkriot was fine with 200 but I needed to host.

I am trying to focus on real non pros, so once I figured they are pros, I usually pass.

Saw this girl on SA.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/36698577-7bcc-46b7-8dfe-50554460198f[/URL]

I do not like discussing services beforehand.

She comes after some really nice daty and an awesome slurpy BBBJ she just jumped on top of my cock and rided me like crazy.

3 awesome BBBCIPs for $250.

I have the habit of telling me that I would be out of town after seeing them, to have a built-in excuse of why I am not seeing them again right away, that gives me time to think if I want to see them again or not.

Two weeks later, the "we need to talk messages" started to appear on my burner cell phone. I replied yes when I come back.

Long story short she claimed she was pregnant, I replied I had a vasectomy, she replied you should have told me that. The last I heard from her.

Too bad as I was actually contemplating having something ongoing with her,.

So see her under your own risk. She might be too skinny for some of you, she also has a sort of peace maker on her shoulder plate that is quite visible and might be disturbing for some of you. She also takes smoke breaks during the session.

GPS.

AnaRainx.

Started with $1000, went down to $500, rejected $250.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/90793da8-4b67-4043-b78c-72235c72a0e3[/URL]

Inked Sin.

Went down from $1000 to $800 got offended with the $250 offer.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/ad9b25a0-0002-44b9-a811-f84fb1ee16e7[/URL]

Layla Shapiro.

Asked for $100 just to meet.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/ea96c6ef-4c67-49eb-83a3-18054f4230b2[/URL]

Temerity33.

Rejected $250.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/686ab08b-3681-4d68-a702-6966722644ce[/URL]

RedLindsey.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/234c3144-0156-474e-83ba-94b471fc6292[/URL]

Creamed her pussy and ass for $200.

[QUOTE=IrishGuy1977;3964847]
I am not sure Chasebanks and Chase from SA are one in the same. I communicated via text and the numbers was different than what was on TNA. Although I will admit the discussions were very "TNA" like.
.[/QUOTE]They are.

I found her TNA profile by searching the phone she contacted me from her SA persona.

I have not experienced any cross over yet but I would agree that in general you would get a better deal through SA.

[QUOTE=DelToro;3964895]I prefer to discuss arrangement amounts in person, preferably after I had fucked them. For the ones with * profiles, the ones that wanted to discuss the arrangementimviting them to beforehand were Victoria206 and Silkriot. My standard offering in SA is 200, Victoria replied that would buy you HH, around her TNA donation, so I passed.

Silkriot was fine with 200 but I needed to host.

I am trying to focus on real non pros, so once I figured they are pros, I usually pass.[/QUOTE]I am looking for the same DelToro. Maybe I need to try your tactic. So how does that work for you? You invite them out for a bite and the topic comes up while out? Or are you just meeting them straight behind closed doors and discussing? I have been only dabbling in the SA world for a few weeks. I have a lot of experience in the hobby world. Maybe I need to separate myself from it.

And to the post below. I did not start communicating with any of the pros knowing they were pros. I guess I should have looked in multiple locations. Their picture search did not met results.

Does anyone else have lots of problems with the SA site? Slow or interminable load times, being randomly logged out, etc? Anyone know if there a best browser / OS combo? Or do they just suck at Internetting?

[QUOTE=IrishGuy1977;3965097]I am looking for the same DelToro. Maybe I need to try your tactic. So how does that work for you? You invite them out for a bite and the topic comes up while out? Or are you just meeting them straight behind closed doors and discussing? I have been only dabbling in the SA world for a few weeks. I have a lot of experience in the hobby world. Maybe I need to separate myself from it.

And to the post below. I did not start communicating with any of the pros knowing they were pros. I guess I should have looked in multiple locations. Their picture search did not met results.[/QUOTE]I also had a lot of experience in the hobby.

I was a player there, very rarely did I repeat.

I was very picky in the hobby, but then with all the recent changes it became harder and harder to screen the girls to figure if they did what I like, so I found my self starting to see the same girls over an over.

The familiarity was new to me and some I really liked so I wanted to spend time socially with them but well it is time and time is money for them so you need to pay a fee, granted usually cheaper than a playing fee but a fee nevertheless.

Then I was introduced to SA, where repeated monthly visits is the holly grail and social time does not only cost extra is actually highly valuated by true non pros that do not want to feel like an escort.

It took me a while but I mastered my profile, its quite direct, it hints monthly arrangement down the road (which I have done once) but while we get there is pay peer meet.

I make crystal clear I am expecting intimacy on the first date, if we click of course. In that sense I have a 100 batting average, if we go out on a date we end up fucking.

I sent several messages, 4 out 10 reply.

At some point we switch to text with my burner phone, at that point I do a full search and that's usually when I figure they are pros. I do not cut communication but they go to the bottom of my TDL.

My profile is quite explicit in the terms that I am expecting to cum several times and to be together for at least a couple of hours, during communication I make crystal clear that they confirm they understood that. I do not discuss services, but so far I have gotten a lot.

I never bring the arrangement, if they do which might be like 40% of them, I first ask if they can host and tell that if they can host the arrangement can be larger. I usually start with 150-200 and very rarely went pass 250 with 300 being my all time maximum and just if they can host. Some want more and that's the end of the story.

With the other 60% I just act as it is a normal date, some would ask during the date but many do not. You can tell they want to ask but they do not have the nerve, some guys take advantage of that and do not give an arrangement at all. I do, how much I give depends of how likely I think I will see them again but I had never went below $100. The vast majority are fine with the amount, I had a few that it was clear they were not happy and ended up blocking form the site.

I used to pay for rooms / hot tub time but not any more, that cuts the pool in half but well even then I have three dates lined up for next week.

Hope these insights help.

[QUOTE=WFM20;3965258]Does anyone else have lots of problems with the SA site? Slow or interminable load times, being randomly logged out, etc? Anyone know if there a best browser / OS combo? Or do they just suck at Internetting?[/QUOTE]I've never had the slightest problem with it. I use Google Chrome.

[QUOTE=WFM20;3965258]Does anyone else have lots of problems with the SA site? Slow or interminable load times, being randomly logged out, etc? Anyone know if there a best browser / OS combo? Or do they just suck at Internetting?[/QUOTE]Yes, I had experienced that every now and then it gets slow.