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What is up!?
So been excited to come up and check out an Asian agency but it was a sh*t show. I'm up here for work this week. Heard there was a crack down few months back so held off on visiting and it to cool off. Lost contacts of more casual ones but messaged 3 popular ones, maybe that's the mistake.
One didn't reply and they other 2 wanted references. How the hell do you have local references if you are visiting from out of town!? Plus if I have non agency referrals there is no real value to back them up. They also want photos of my ID and job info. I know y'all do it but there is no way in hell that makes them safer! It's literally gives all your information to a stranger that can be stored, hacked, or sell it with worse case to blackmail you.
I'm willing to give a first name, age, and maybe a photo but that does not need to be stored on some companies phone to be used as evidence when they get busted. Again, I get it, you all do this " I shared the info with no issues" but you are still saved on file or on some phone forever.
One group saw some logic saying that references are not needed but they wanted my ID. These girls sound great but my life and privacy have more value, plus plenty of girls as hot and some agencies meet without putting you at risk by sharing real info.
I'm not here to break your system or anything but info given to them has no way of making it safer for either party. Help me understand the logic beyond "it's just what we do".
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How
Sorry one more question.
I noticed a ton of BBBJ with almost all agency girls and a good amount of BBCIP upsells. How do y'all stay clean or ya just rolling the dice? I know they get tested but that can't be between every client. Plus I hear STD can spread from oral too.
Plus I'm not too confident in c*mming in some Asian girl that could keep the kid. Maybe I'm overprotective and paranoid but aren't these risks? LOL.
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Awesome review on Sakura
[QUOTE=Rizzler808;7064773]Sakura at DMVG was a wild card for me. Definitely fake / edited pics since they looks very "instagrammy" and even if they were real, the booker was straight with me that they had no idea LOL. I guess there's a lot of anonymity between the booker and even the girls. That said, I was horny and Sakura was the fastest availability minus ACS's which I will never lower myself to again. Ended up feeling pretty good and she gets the rec. I may repeat after taking a spin with Jenny and Olga.
Sakura's pictures could be here but she's for sure P.S.'ing. Why? Who knows since her face was pretty and a pretty toned body for an any provider, period. It did feel a little slow at the beginning but I used my translator to use the same 4-5 short convo starters that I use for non-English speakers to ease anyone's tension and it seemed to do the trick.
Pro-tip, when in doubt, flatter them without being too forward. I find the "it's my second time, and you're much prettier than the last girl, so I'm sorry if I seem nervous. " Puts them at ease and gets a smile. Makes them think they have the upper hand in all this when in reality Sakura is going to be number 6 for the month LOL.
She was easy going from there and I managed to ease some dfk out of her with respect to letting her lfk first, then FOV with some light nipple play. By the end of all that, she was pining for dfk and shoved my face between her legs. DATY was nice since she was responsive and even fiending for an orgasm herself. I think I wasn't able to give her one but maybe another gentleman with better skills than I will be able to conquer her.[/QUOTE]Sakura sounds amazing. I figured she was using edited photos but if she's good service, that's all I need to know.
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Sakura
[QUOTE=Rizzler808;7064773]
Pro-tip, when in doubt, flatter them without being too forward. I find the "it's my second time, and you're much prettier than the last girl, so I'm sorry if I seem nervous. " Puts them at ease and gets a smile. Makes them think they have the upper hand in all this when in reality Sakura is going to be number 6 for the month LOL.
She was easy going from there and I managed to ease some dfk out of her with respect to letting her lfk first, then FOV with some light nipple play. By the end of all that, she was pining for dfk and shoved my face between her legs. DATY was nice since she was responsive and even fiending for an orgasm herself. I think I wasn't able to give her one but maybe another gentleman with better skills than I will be able to conquer her.
I tried to make up for the blue balls I may have given her and fucked her pretty hard in doggy. She switched up the Japanese and Korean dirty talk which was a new trick and it was audibly pleasing I would say. Ended up having her in a high RCG, with her ass off my pelvis so I would have to upshot into her. We angled ourselves perfectly so I could watch her pussy get fucked by me until I filled the bag and watched her run to the bathroom to wash up LOL.
Obligatory foot rub followed with some conversation about the travels she's had since coming to America. Sweet girl overall and I'm glad I made time for her.
[URL]https://www.dmvgirlsva.com/model-page-rina[/URL][/QUOTE]THIS. The chemistry building with providers is real. They're human too so it it makes sense if they don't find you to be a douche bag, mileage will only increase. Great review and I just saw her again. Really pretty and def worth the visit. Not sure why but the prettier ones always like it GFE only which I guess makes sense. Diamonds are going to be gotten so easily. Might see her again after my visit with Jenny.
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[QUOTE=GAGuy2020;7065780]I'm willing to give a first name, age, and maybe a photo but that does not need to be stored on some companies phone to be used as evidence when they get busted. Again, I get it, you all do this " I shared the info with no issues" but you are still saved on file or on some phone forever.[/QUOTE]
I can't speak for every agency but I've had agencies forget me when I haven't used them in years. If only they did store that info better. I would think they store it on encrypted drive, the corgs say that's how they store the info you send them. They themselves have no interest in being caught with it in the open. The most important purpose is to rule you out as being a known stalker or banned customer. They spend a lot of time dealing with just a handful of those.
When asked for ID they were fine with me covering up the most sensitive details. This was long ago and sometimes they suddenly up requirements. It is not about LE but again, stalkers and specific banned customers. But certainly they don't want anyone to think they can cause trouble.
[QUOTE=GAGuy2020;7065796]Sorry one more question.
I noticed a ton of BBBJ with almost all agency girls and a good amount of BBCIP upsells. How do y'all stay clean or ya just rolling the dice? I know they get tested but that can't be between every client. Plus I hear STD can spread from oral too.
Plus I'm not too confident in c*mming in some Asian girl that could keep the kid. Maybe I'm overprotective and paranoid but aren't these risks? LOL.[/QUOTE]BBBJ is low risk, BBFS is the problem. I've gone 20 years of BBBJ without a single problem. Yes it's possible. But not comparable with BBFS in any way. If you are 45 or under get the Gardasil 9 vaccine. The HPV strains can spread just from kissing, though most times you'll recover fine. Also Hepatitis B.
The girls are here to make money, they are not going to have a kid with the whole city. But if it puts your mind at ease go check [URL]Ancestry.com[/URL] in 18 years.
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[QUOTE=GAGuy2020;7065780]So been excited to come up and check out an Asian agency but it was a sh*t show. I'm up here for work this week. Heard there was a crack down few months back so held off on visiting and it to cool off. Lost contacts of more casual ones but messaged 3 popular ones, maybe that's the mistake.
One didn't reply and they other 2 wanted references. How the hell do you have local references if you are visiting from out of town!? Plus if I have non agency referrals there is no real value to back them up. They also want photos of my ID and job info. I know y'all do it but there is no way in hell that makes them safer! It's literally gives all your information to a stranger that can be stored, hacked, or sell it with worse case to blackmail you.
I'm willing to give a first name, age, and maybe a photo but that does not need to be stored on some companies phone to be used as evidence when they get busted. Again, I get it, you all do this " I shared the info with no issues" but you are still saved on file or on some phone forever.
One group saw some logic saying that references are not needed but they wanted my ID. These girls sound great but my life and privacy have more value, plus plenty of girls as hot and some agencies meet without putting you at risk by sharing real info.
I'm not here to break your system or anything but info given to them has no way of making it safer for either party. Help me understand the logic beyond "it's just what we do".[/QUOTE]I think this is a very simple issue. If you're uncomfortable sharing personal information or don't want to follow their rules, then don't contact them or meet their girls. These Asian girls aren't a necessity for you. In fact, these organizations don't need customers who are unwilling to provide information. I can actually understand their perspective—they need to filter their clientele for safety reasons. It's not just about business; it's also about protecting their girls. There have been numerous cases of customers harming, assaulting, extorting, or stealing from the girls in the past. So, if you want to be part of this circle, you need to follow the rules.
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I gave them my ID but blur everything other than my name and photo and told them to look up LinkedIn for my job info. They were okay with it but one did ask me to text a selfie. To be honest, you have higher risk to have your PPI leaked from bank and insurance with serious damages than few bookers.
I do feel better when they verify new clients, and would be super cautious to those who dont ID me.
I also found many bookers are Chinese, so if you speak the language, then it will also be a shortcut for you.
[QUOTE=GAGuy2020;7065780]So been excited to come up and check out an Asian agency but it was a sh*t show. I'm up here for work this week. Heard there was a crack down few months back so held off on visiting and it to cool off. Lost contacts of more casual ones but messaged 3 popular ones, maybe that's the mistake.
One didn't reply and they other 2 wanted references. How the hell do you have local references if you are visiting from out of town!? Plus if I have non agency referrals there is no real value to back them up. They also want photos of my ID and job info. I know y'all do it but there is no way in hell that makes them safer! It's literally gives all your information to a stranger that can be stored, hacked, or sell it with worse case to blackmail you.
I'm willing to give a first name, age, and maybe a photo but that does not need to be stored on some companies phone to be used as evidence when they get busted. Again, I get it, you all do this " I shared the info with no issues" but you are still saved on file or on some phone forever.
One group saw some logic saying that references are not needed but they wanted my ID. These girls sound great but my life and privacy have more value, plus plenty of girls as hot and some agencies meet without putting you at risk by sharing real info.
I'm not here to break your system or anything but info given to them has no way of making it safer for either party. Help me understand the logic beyond "it's just what we do".[/QUOTE]
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Jb mana
I saw a girl who seemed mid to late 20's, maybe even early 30's. I could be completely wrong but, her face just looked older to me. Face was cute, but not cute as the pics so dont get your hopes up too high. Her makeup and skin on her face reminded me of momo / little red riding hood kinda crackley, which isnt a bad thing just an observation.
She matches the height, very short. Her body is slender but is womanly, not toned. Extra fat is more noticeable when she is kneeled while laying on the bed, stomach has that wrinkly skin look from the little fat at times. Her tits were big and had huge brown eraser nipples.
Once in the shower I was really turned on by her. I was sucking those big boobs with those big eraser nipples, kissing her body etc. I had my fun pounding her little body, she can take dick, but she isn't very tight or gets super wet quickly. I felt some friction during the strokes and it felt good, she was enjoying it too from her reactions.
Attitude was upbeat and friendly. Aimed to please and have fun. She is nice so you should have a good time. The experience felt like a level above an amp.
Face / body / attitude and service.
8/8/10.
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[QUOTE=FurryMonger122;7066067]I saw a girl who seemed mid to late 20's, maybe even early 30's. I could be completely wrong, her face just looked older to me. Face was cute, but not cute as the pics Her makeup and skin on her face reminded me of momo / little red riding hood kinda crackley.
She matches the height, very short. Her body is slender but is womanly, not toned. Extra fat is more noticeable when she is kneeled while laying on the bed, stomach has that wrinkly skin look from the little fat. Her tits were big and had huge brown eraser nipples.
Once in the shower I was really turned on by her. I was sucking those big boobs with those big eraser nipples, kissing her body etc. I had my fun pounding her little body, she can take dick, but she isn't very tight or gets super wet quickly. I felt some friction during the strokes and it felt good, she was enjoying it too from her reactions.
Attitude was upbeat and friendly. Aimed to please and have fun. She is nice so you should have a good time.
Face / body / attitude and service.
8/8/10.[/QUOTE]Thanks for TOFTT, brother.
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My 2 cents / sense
I've written this a number of times I think. But if you want to play BBFS:
1) go to MISTR and get on prep to prevent HIV. Takes 21 days to build up to 99 percent protection. Forget that fear. MISTR also supplies doxy pep that you can take 1 to 3 days after suspected exposure to an std to cut the risk (gon / syp / chl) by 70. You can also just take it after each encounter if you're a nervous guy.
2) get your two hep vaccines. Hep a and b I believe. One is a 3 dose regimen. 1 1 6 months. Can't remember the other.
3) use your eyes. If you see something you're not comfortable with. Leave.
4) options in 1 are not available for j girls. Most of them take some sort of doxy pep equivalent. K girl experts weigh in on what they do.
5) assess your risk level. Life is short. Your pii is everywhere. If you use Google, fb, ig. You use your cc every day. Is it a risk yes? Do you want to fuck 18 to 26 year old girls? Do that calculus for yourself and if you don't feel comfortable. Don't give up your info.
6) start slow. Try one agency. Maybe discreet story with an amazing pro pro like M. Where everything is locked down tight and there are no extras. Expand for there.
7) if you decide to participate test yourself 4 times a year. Or more if you want. MISTR does it for you for free bc they get free pharmacy money. Haven't paid for a std text for over a year.
8) last. Have fun. Life is fragile and short.
[QUOTE=DownloadX;7065920]I can't speak for every agency but I've had agencies forget me when I haven't used them in years. If only they did store that info better. I would think they store it on encrypted drive, the corgs say that's how they store the info you send them. They themselves have no interest in being caught with it in the open. The most important purpose is to rule you out as being a known stalker or banned customer. They spend a lot of time dealing with just a handful of those.
When asked for ID they were fine with me covering up the most sensitive details. This was long ago and sometimes they suddenly up requirements. It is not about LE but again, stalkers and specific banned customers. But certainly they don't want anyone to think they can cause trouble.
BBBJ is low risk, BBFS is the problem. I've gone 20 years of BBBJ without a single problem. Yes it's possible. But not comparable with BBFS in any way. If you are 45 or under get the Gardasil 9 vaccine. The HPV strains can spread just from kissing, though most times you'll recover fine. Also Hepatitis B.
The girls are here to make money, they are not going to have a kid with the whole city. But if it puts your mind at ease go check [URL]Ancestry.com[/URL] in 18 years.[/QUOTE]
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Momo
I saw Momo and can't recommend. Photos have major P.S. And performance was not good.
[QUOTE=Monthehunt;7064169]I talked to the one guy that gave a one sentence review on on momo jb and asked him to give a longer review on her.
Interesting though that the two houses have a different selections of pictures.
[URL]https://www.pleasure-palace.club/cocoroh[/URL]
[URL]https://joyfulbay.com/y/[/URL]
Good news: the pink / purple bikini pictures are pretty damn close to the real thing, more so the ones on the PP site. In Virginia the boobs look like they've been photo-firmed.
Bad news: the PP picture with the necktie is also accurate. So here's the thing. She looked, to my eye, really great in her white hookerware with a bit of a push up situation. They look like very nice Cs. I find her face very cute. And her silhouette is sexy. But as that necktie picture suggest, clothes off, it's a bit more nuanced. For a very thin girl, she has very little tone, and she has some of the squishiest flesh I've ever encountered. Two comps come to mind. THE Alyssa at Shangrila, and the dimpled Yoyo who was at Asian Desires a couple of years ago. All 3 were really cute, nice looking boobs at first, but unusually squishy. And their boobs were really soft so that you can suck one full tit up into your mouth. If Cocoro / Momo hit the gym like once a week she'd be star material. As it is, I kinda found the squishiness charming and an interesting change of pace.
So skills wise she seems fine. I've been binging the past 2 weeks, so her skills don't stand out in my memory as either notably bad or good from a technical perspective.
The reason I really liked Cocoro though was her persona, which could be a YMMV thing. She made it seem like we clicked in a special way. And she comes over as one of the most regular real gf-types you'll encounter. First of all, it comes up in conversation that while in NY she's seen a Broadway musical, gone to the Met, and had a (1-person) picnic in Central Park. It often shocks me how few girls seem interested in doing stuff outside the house other than eating and shopping. (Though certainly understandable that they want to make as much money while they can, and some on their first stint seem to have less control over their time). For Cocoro, this seemed more like an opportunity to see the world, not just fuck the world. Very likable that way. I would have liked more time to chat with her about her vacation impressions.
2nd thing is my comm skills were on point this day, and we were non-stop laughing for the full 45 minutes. I made her do spit takes during the BJ for example. Then compounded it by scolding her "don't laugh during the blow job! It's dangerous!" which of course made her laugh more. (So in that sense I interrupted her craft and maybe can't properly evaluate her skills). But I got to tell you in a memory bank of hundreds of blow jobs, her ejecting me from her mouth and turning her head to laugh (while still maintaining firm grasp of the base) and losing her focus on the task at hand will be a favorite memory of mine for longer than technically superior but soulless BJs.
But she certainly comes over as enjoying sex. I joked with her that she's "kawaisou" - meaning something like "poor thing" because she has to sleep with dirty old men like me. She laughs and slyly smiles - "But you know, I'm dirty too. I love licking cock". Very sweet of her, don't you think? That was probably before the spit takes though.
If I believe her, she has what seems like a perfectly respectable civvie job back home, but kind of mundane. So it almost seems like she's enjoying this chance to do something different, apart from the money. Then the sex felt like girlfriend sex. Her orgasms felt like girlfriend orgasms. Pretty good kisser for a J girl too. I gave it to her long and hard and she acts appreciative.
So, not life changing. Not a goddess. But a really really sweet, probably smart, GND nice change of pace. I'd like her to do well so DC blob people, please do go throw her some money and let her lick your cock. Win win. Maybe offer to take her to the Smithsonian (does she lean Air and Space, or Portrait Gallery? Actually last time I was there one of them had a great Hiroshige exhibit. Is that still there?) Then take her to picnic on the mall.[/QUOTE]
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New Victoria at Kstar
New Victoria at Kstar starting from 10/16.
[URL]https://kstarnova.com/models/victoria-k/[/URL]
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[QUOTE=PinWheel97;7066137]6) start slow. Try one agency. Maybe discreet story with an amazing pro pro like M. Where everything is locked down tight and there are no extras. Expand for there.[/QUOTE]#6 is really great advice for 1st timers. Some agencies are easier to screen, especially the newer ones without regulars. Then gradually use that to get into others. Sometimes an agency has two branches or are friendly, so getting in with one gets you in with the other. Once you do that, you have multiple references.
If an agency is friendly with another branch and you are already in with them, you can just ask them "Who's working today". That's how I found out 3 places were the same agency. Another way is if they have a website, they sometimes have a link to another city. I've used that several times, if you are in with one city you are in with their branch in the other. You might deal with a different phone number and booker, but just say so the 1st time and you're in.
Of course, the final way is if you are a girl's regular and she gives you her contact, then when she comes back at a different agency you can get in with them. In one case, it was minutes. In another, I showed them references but they rubber stamped it in seconds without checking (it was a formality to check off a box). This is because the girl said I could see her, and no girl would ever say that if it weren't true right. She's the one that has to take a pounding from you for a 60 appointment when she approves it after all. Girls will only approve good customers, so win-win. Never break the rules, it is in your interest to be honest and patient.
I started out this way and used references to get in future agencies. I gave my paystubs 12 years ago to one agency which is solid. But as I said earlier they must have lost that because after a long break they had me re-screen. Ironically I didn't even have to give them anything due to the references I built up over the years. They only care about keeping the girls safe, if you have solid references you don't need to give your info. Remember your interests are aligned, they are in business for you to see girls. So if I were them I'd do exactly what one corg says and store everything they get on encrypted drive. It is not something they want to leave around for others to see.
When I asked why they didn't have my phone number or info after the break, they say they reset things after X years of inactivity out of caution. So they didn't trust me and treated me as a stranger, which in hindsight is a good thing. So I take what they say as true since I gave them a ton of business before, and now that I'm back I still do. But that is just this one agency, every place is different and I'm sure there are agencies that suck. This is one of the OG agencies and have never had problems due to being the hardest to screen with. They are basically using other lax agencies to provide extra screening for them. Another way to look at it, they are serving just long-time regulars. Nobody causes problems, the girls feel safe and focus all on taking care of us. If they're going to let a new guy in, he's got to meet a high standard. Again, this does not apply to the newer agencies so I would go to them first.
I've had zero safety problems for me and others I've known in 12 years. Problems are not safety related. Typical problems are the girl is sick, on her period, or took off a day earlier than planned. So we have to reschedule or try another girl. Or the toilet is broken. Or the leasing office is visiting to fix the toilet that was broken, so my appointment is delayed 10 minutes. Or they send me to the wrong room number, it is rare but has happened. It means I have 50 minutes to nut instead of 60, fine by me. None of the examples I listed are safety problems. That's why I keep using them.
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[QUOTE=Tomk2323;7066145]I saw Momo and can't recommend. Photos have major P.S. And performance was not good.[/QUOTE]Thanks for TOFTT bro.
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Second this
[QUOTE=Tomk2323;7066145]I saw Momo and can't recommend. Photos have major P.S. And performance was not good.[/QUOTE]I also saw Momo and I literally walked straight out. She's at least 30, she was wearing one of those Borat swimsuits, so I could see how saggy her boobs were. Body looked like ET, no muscle tone, skinny fat, absolutely zero ass. No hug / kiss at the door and very businesslike. I regretted going there, but I would've really regretted paying money to fuck this girl.