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Different strokes for different folks.
On TER, I created a saved search with a minimum average appearance score of 8. I set body type to "athletic." "This will filter out the ugly providers!" I thought.
I was wrong. My search includes results from providers I don't even think I would see if I were drunk. I find some of them outright revolting. And ya know what? That's perfectly OK. Clearly, those providers have their admirers. I'm simply not one of them.
For kgirls, I read glowing reviews of providers I've seen and have written off as unattractive. Maybe these patrons have unconventional beauty standards. Maybe they've rarely seen Korean people and the scarcity has inflated their perception of attractiveness. Whatever the reason is, it's all good.
We're all in this together, gents. There's nothing to gain from calling out others for their opinions of a provider's appearance. We all must remember that this hobby has features that potentially taint people's experiences, including heavily Photoshopped pics, completely different or AI-generated pics, glowing reviews by shills, and different opinions. This is the inherent uncertainty we must all accept.
Now have fun and stay safe.
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[QUOTE=Slim129;6709334]I don't think boner ever mentions Haven and Boner has never led me wrong, therefore I rest my case.[/QUOTE]Yeah, I don't agree with you (one might say I "severely disagree" with you) for obvious reasons but I'll try to stay as objective and productive to the hobby as possible here.
1. For the record, Boner certified Haven as HYA multiple times bro lmao. Links for the lazy: [URL=http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?33078-Hot-Young-Asian-Girls&p=6648334&viewfull=1#post6648334]Here in the celebrated October 2023 power ranking[/URL] and [URL=http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?33078-Hot-Young-Asian-Girls&p=6639754&viewfull=1#post6639754]here[/URL] and also [URL=http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?33078-Hot-Young-Asian-Girls&p=6519555&viewfull=1#post6519555]here[/URL].
2. To give a sense of where I'm coming from, I'm Asian and in my early 30's, so like Zebra, I'm more attuned to nuances and differences in Asian faces than people who come from a "Western" gaze or are boomer-adjacent, or both. I've noticed that I can discern things like face, youth, etc. , differently from others. So I'll note and emphasize that who is attractive to me will often not be who is attractive to "Western" mongers lmao. I'm cool with that. And unlike other mongers, ostensibly, I am concerned with both HYA visuals *and* intimacy / personality / vibes. My hunch is that there are members (and lurkers) here who are also looking for someone with a friendly attitude and who can hold intelligent conversation (which is a bonus in session). So don't yuck my yum lmao.
3. I've said this before, and I'll repeat it. One key recommendation for HYA reviews is to include visual references moving forward. For example, Haven looks like Suzy Bae and Bora Kim. See Zebra's visual comparisons which were on point. If you like those girls in the references, you'll like Haven. If you don't like those girls' visuals, you probably won't like Haven. But no need to disparage a girl for no reason other than your own gaze. Let's be a little less intellectually lazy with the visual references / comparisons so that, again, we have as much info as possible to be the informed mongers we aspire to be.
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[QUOTE=Itami213;6707235]Has anyone heard anything from Mira? I know she was recently in OC, but was removed after a week. Hoping she'd be back in LA by now, but nothin! Had I known she'd go MIA I would've seen her before she left the OC, damn.[/QUOTE]Yup, Mira came back to OC but went off grid for a minute when the LE stuff came out in the news in early November 2023. Good time to lay low bc of the unwanted news / LE attention and also bc it was really slow then. Some well-reviewed HYAs are slowly coming back onto the roster (even if for a short time) so I'm hoping that trend continues.
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2. To give a sense of where I'm coming from, I'm Asian and in my early 30's, so like Zebra, I'm more attuned to nuances and differences in Asian faces than people who come from a "Western" gaze or are boomer-adjacent, or both. I've noticed that I can discern things like face, youth, etc. , differently from others. So I'll note and emphasize that who is attractive to me will often not be who is attractive to "Western" mongers lmao. I'm cool with that. And unlike other mongers, ostensibly, I am concerned with both HYA visuals *and* intimacy / personality / vibes. My hunch is that there are members (and lurkers) here who are also looking for someone with a friendly attitude and who can hold intelligent conversation (which is a bonus in session). So don't yuck my yum lmao.
[/QUOTE]I used to give credence to the theory that asian guys are better at picking HYAs but some of the takes lately are bad. I only agree with Freesia and Celine from your list. And zebra's claim that Yujin is ATF is the worst take ever LOL. And some other dude who claims he works in modeling saying she has a pretty face SMH.
BTW the acronym HYA shouldn't be influenced by factors outside of physical appearance because who knows what kind of relationship you have with girls outside the transaction. Obviously everyone has their own preferences so you do you but "I'm asian" isn't a strong argument point when I see some of the celeb comparisons so called asian guys are making. Saying Haven has any resemblance to Suzy bae automatically revokes your asian card lmao
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[QUOTE=Slim129;6709334]I don't think boner ever mentions Haven and Boner has never led me wrong, therefore I rest my case.[/QUOTE]I believe a simple search would easily prove that that's not the case.
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[QUOTE=DankDonk;6710037]I used to give credence to the theory that asian guys are better at picking HYAs but some of the takes lately are bad. I only agree with Freesia and Celine from your list. And zebra's claim that Yujin is ATF is the worst take ever LOL. And some other dude who claims he works in modeling saying she has a pretty face SMH.
BTW the acronym HYA shouldn't be influenced by factors outside of physical appearance because who knows what kind of relationship you have with girls outside the transaction. Obviously everyone has their own preferences so you do you but "I'm asian" isn't a strong argument point when I see some of the celeb comparisons so called asian guys are making. Saying Haven has any resemblance to Suzy bae automatically revokes your asian card lmao[/QUOTE]Haha that's a very yt thing to say so let's agree to disagree lmao. I honestly give zero credence to any yt dude assessment of HYA because (1) yt people are always the first to call 40-somethings young 😂 and (2) they have like one type when it comes to Korean girls. I don't need anyone to validate my choices bc I put my money where my mouth is — all over my HYAs.
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[QUOTE=Subak77;6709587]Yup, Mira came back to OC but went off grid for a minute when the LE stuff came out in the news in early November 2023. Good time to lay low bc of the unwanted news / LE attention and also bc it was really slow then. Some well-reviewed HYAs are slowly coming back onto the roster (even if for a short time) so I'm hoping that trend continues.[/QUOTE]Her family's in town so she's been traveling w / them. No idea when she'll be working again and if here or somewhere else.
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[QUOTE=DankDonk;6710037]I used to give credence to the theory that asian guys are better at picking HYAs but some of the takes lately are bad. I only agree with Freesia and Celine from your list. And zebra's claim that Yujin is ATF is the worst take ever LOL. And some other dude who claims he works in modeling saying she has a pretty face SMH.
BTW the acronym HYA shouldn't be influenced by factors outside of physical appearance because who knows what kind of relationship you have with girls outside the transaction. Obviously everyone has their own preferences so you do you but "I'm asian" isn't a strong argument point when I see some of the celeb comparisons so called asian guys are making. Saying Haven has any resemblance to Suzy bae automatically revokes your asian card lmao[/QUOTE]Regarding the visual comparison of Haven to Suzy, the facial structure similarities are there. It is hard to unlearn your assumption that the only HYAs out there look like Blackpink Jennie or Chloe Kim lmao. And lowkey some mongers here conflate Kgirls with girls from other countries like bruhhhhh there is so much going on there and some of you all would need to go back to college and take one of those GE classes on race and ethnicity to even start to understand what's going on there.
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[QUOTE=DankDonk;6710037]I used to give credence to the theory that asian guys are better at picking HYAs but some of the takes lately are bad. I only agree with Freesia and Celine from your list. And zebra's claim that Yujin is ATF is the worst take ever LOL. And some other dude who claims he works in modeling saying she has a pretty face SMH.
BTW the acronym HYA shouldn't be influenced by factors outside of physical appearance because who knows what kind of relationship you have with girls outside the transaction. Obviously everyone has their own preferences so you do you but "I'm asian" isn't a strong argument point when I see some of the celeb comparisons so called asian guys are making. Saying Haven has any resemblance to Suzy bae automatically revokes your asian card lmao[/QUOTE]Everything is subjective LOL 😂 if I were to make an objective list, I wouldn't put Yujin on it. She's one of my favorites right now because I happen to find her face and body attractive.
The whole point to making these top 5 lists is to compare your tastes to others to see who's opinions you can trust.
For example if NG is on your top 5 then I would know to take your opinions with a grain of salt because she's not even on my top 10. I might include her on my objective list because I know lots of guys like her.
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My Top HYA 2023
Two clear top girls for me this year:
Freesia.
NG.
They were fully booked during the majority of their stays for a reason. Freesia even with a premium from the beginning even with folks gate keeping her and in OC.
Although everyone has their own idea of what's beautiful, it's hard to ignore that certain features like facial balance and healthy skin are widely admired as standards of beauty across different cultures. Otherwise how would the booker know to charge more for the girl from the get go, or the girl themselves know they are more beautiful and can get away with charging more form the get go?
Others:
Lady Belle.
Lady Katie.
I missed out of Celine, haven't seen LadyK (.
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Cakdolls.
Is cakdolls still using the 6577 number? I have been a semi-regular customer for about five years, and they have always been a reliable go-to reference for me. I last booked in September. Now that the pw wall has gone up, I can't get a response. It would suck if I were weeded out as a customer. Can someone please confirm which number they are using? PMs are welcome. Thanks.
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[QUOTE=FiatVoluptas;6710688]Is cakdolls still using the 6577 number? I have been a semi-regular customer for about five years, and they have always been a reliable go-to reference for me. I last booked in September. Now that the pw wall has gone up, I can't get a response. It would suck if I were weeded out as a customer. Can someone please confirm which number they are using? PMs are welcome. Thanks.[/QUOTE]As of a couple of weeks ago, they still using that line when I booked. You might want to try Julie at the 1816 number as they book most, if not all, of the same girls.
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Same number
[QUOTE=FiatVoluptas;6710688]Is cakdolls still using the 6577 number? I have been a semi-regular customer for about five years, and they have always been a reliable go-to reference for me. I last booked in September. Now that the pw wall has gone up, I can't get a response. It would suck if I were weeded out as a customer. Can someone please confirm which number they are using? PMs are welcome. Thanks.[/QUOTE]It's still the same number. They might have just gotten very particular with who they continue to do business with.
Plenty of other bookers out there like BC mentioned.
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Freaks in the sheets
Anyone got some recommendations for freaks in the sheets?
My 3 most recents were Minami, Baby Aoi, and Momo K. While all three were very sweet (and the vid option for the 2 of them were a huge plus), they were pretty tame when it came to that pure lust energy I've gotten a couple of times before. Wondering if the sweet and borderline vanilla thing is a J-girl thing specifically or just because I've been going after HYA and they're not as experienced.
I think I've been searching mostly for large milkers and youth but some recommendation for the ones that just can't wait to get it out of you (who are also HYA) would be much appreciated.
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[QUOTE=Solomid824;6710151]Two clear top girls for me this year:
Freesia.
NG.
They were fully booked during the majority of their stays for a reason. Freesia even with a premium from the beginning even with folks gate keeping her and in OC.
Although everyone has their own idea of what's beautiful, it's hard to ignore that certain features like facial balance and healthy skin are widely admired as standards of beauty across different cultures. Otherwise how would the booker know to charge more for the girl from the get go, or the girl themselves know they are more beautiful and can get away with charging more form the get go?
Others:
Lady Belle.
Lady Katie.
I missed out of Celine, haven't seen LadyK (.[/QUOTE]Lady katie was quite attractive but she wasn't cut out for this work. I liked that she had a taller frame and has a natural looking beautiful face. I saw her early during her time here and she was giving me BBFSCIP at no charge. Then she told me some mongers snitched on her to the booker. Freaking idiots.