Massage Parlor Reports

[QUOTE=HowardSprague;2448564]It's her word against the cop's. There's a contention of fact and it is the province of the court to determine which party is more credible. Sworn officer of the law vs. Accused, whom do you think the court will believe?[/QUOTE]While LE has some leeway in the jurisdiction of their duty, they can touch a woman, but can not grope or get fully nude, or partake in sexual service offered, that is against the law as much for them as it is for you or me.

[QUOTE=HowardSprague;2444055]One of the girls allegedly gave a happy ending to an undercover cop[/QUOTE]

If she did actually give him a HE that is against the law & he can be charged & prosecuted, I doubt a HE happened, probably more of an offer which seems more likely & that is enough evidence to bring charges against someone. There was also TSA agents that were fired for groping & fondling, not sure if they will be prosecuted.

As for who the courts will believe, that really is situational & depends on the preponderance of evidence.

While I can't say who the courts will believe in this case, I can say that I've had a LE sectional supervisor say the exact same thing to me,[RED]"if it goes to court who do you think they'll believe"[/RED].

I kept my mouth shut & when the case went to court it was dismissed & thrown out cause they had no evidence.

I do tend to agree with you that in general the courts usually side with LE.

[QUOTE=Hazed79;2440303]That would be great. I've seen Yumi a few times (long time ago) when she was in newton. But when I did some recon on this place just before December, I saw LEO parked out back talking to a tall blonde guy. I passed by three times noticing a very casual conversation between the two. There is a store next to it so maybe he was from there, but it spooked me enough to stay away.

Thats one thing that I like about walkin places. No appointment needed so I don't have to call with my #.[/QUOTE]Previous locations Yumi worked more was available.

Wonder if she knew you from before you could get "grandfathered" in for extras? Or is she playing it safe in Norwood.

Do not like places in residential areas from what it sounds like.

Which place in norwood? Northern lights or place on RT 1 at gas station?

I have a good friend who ran AMP's years ago, and believe it or not, some undercover officers posing as clients to sting a provider absolutely do enjoy the entire session before calling in the swarm. Not in every case, but once she got busted and went through the whole court proceeding charged with offering for a fee. While I was escorting her into the court, she explained to me that not one, but several officers who raided her spa were in fact repeat customers. The "uc" who made the arrest actually enjoyed his extra before blowing the whistle. Absolutely true. Whole case went to trial for a year, got thrown out- no warrant to search, and they destroyed the place. On another incident, she was kindly asked to " come down to the station " to talk with the uncle, whereas she was shown photos of her clients entering and exiting her spa, her ads from BP, etc. And reviews also. She was kindly asked to shut down and leave with no issue, and did so respectively. Funny thing is- the uncle also explained to her that both he and several other associates wearing the same uniform actually frequented her spa, and loved it. Pressure from the town folk was directed towards closing the spa, and it was handled in a polite manner. Uncle told her " we know what's going on"- you get the picture. Some spa owners are asked nicely to close, and they quietly do so. Some get raided. Some girls are careful, and some girls are so blinded by greed, they will proposition any client- and bring problems. Actually quite a few uncles frequent these spa's, and why not- at the end of the day they are still men. On another note, having seen evidence against one AMP- I read that customers were stopped after leaving the spa, like a mile down the road or so- then they were questioned. Think you can just say" Only massage!" and they will leave you alone?? Guess again. Customers who were stopped were told point blank " I Know why you were here" and before you tell me " Sir, I only had a massage- my back was hurting" The next response was " fine". " Oh, and by the way, if WE send a "uc" in the spa and he gets propositioned, we are shutting the place down. " Then, we will charge YOU with giving false information". This scenario generated multiple " okay, I got a he", and evidence was collected against the spa. You can just imagine the problems this would cause at home when mama checks the mail before you and sees the letter from the court. "Honey, . What's this all about?

Went to pink again.

Usual deal, 60 for an hr +40 tip. Massage was pretty good, nothing EXCEPTIONAL, but it got the job done.

I usually prefer to go to pawtucket for the FS, but was limited on time so just went there.

If anyone was any info on FS in MA would love to trade info.

[QUOTE=RemyS;2449191]Went to pink again.

Usual deal, 60 for an hr +40 tip. Massage was pretty good, nothing EXCEPTIONAL, but it got the job done.

I usually prefer to go to pawtucket for the FS, but was limited on time so just went there.

If anyone was any info on FS in MA would love to trade info.[/QUOTE]I got a few spots, but requires a known influenced person to bring you there.

[QUOTE=Kozmo;2449148]I have a good friend who ran AMP's years ago, and believe it or not, some undercover officers posing as clients to sting a provider absolutely do enjoy the entire session before calling in the swarm. Not in every case, but once she got busted and went through the whole court proceeding charged with offering for a fee. While I was escorting her into the court, she explained to me that not one, but several officers who raided her spa were in fact repeat customers. The "uc" who made the arrest actually enjoyed his extra before blowing the whistle. Absolutely true. Whole case went to trial for a year, got thrown out- no warrant to search, and they destroyed the place. On another incident, she was kindly asked to " come down to the station " to talk with the uncle, whereas she was shown photos of her clients entering and exiting her spa, her ads from BP, etc. And reviews also. She was kindly asked to shut down and leave with no issue, and did so respectively. Funny thing is- the uncle also explained to her that both he and several other associates wearing the same uniform actually frequented her spa, and loved it. Pressure from the town folk was directed towards closing the spa, and it was handled in a polite manner. Uncle told her " we know what's going on"- you get the picture. Some spa owners are asked nicely to close, and they quietly do so. Some get raided. Some girls are careful, and some girls are so blinded by greed, they will proposition any client- and bring problems. Actually quite a few uncles frequent these spa's, and why not- at the end of the day they are still men. On another note, having seen evidence against one AMP- I read that customers were stopped after leaving the spa, like a mile down the road or so- then they were questioned. Think you can just say" Only massage!" and they will leave you alone?? Guess again. Customers who were stopped were told point blank " I Know why you were here" and before you tell me " Sir, I only had a massage- my back was hurting" The next response was " fine". " Oh, and by the way, if WE send a "uc" in the spa and he gets propositioned, we are shutting the place down. " Then, we will charge YOU with giving false information". This scenario generated multiple " okay, I got a he", and evidence was collected against the spa. You can just imagine the problems this would cause at home when mama checks the mail before you and sees the letter from the court. "Honey, . What's this all about?[/QUOTE]Regardless of whether they get a conviction in court or not the damage gets done and LEO still wins.

They dragged the clients and the providers into court. The papers have pasted their faces in print with headlines and the accusation has been made.

Damage done. You'll never hear that the case was tossed out or the accused found innocent. That's doesn't make headlines but you might find it tucked away on page 33.

Anyone know of any FS spas in qtown?

And what's the going rate these days?

Thanks in advance.

[QUOTE=SpermSac;2449456]Regardless of whether they get a conviction in court or not the damage gets done and LEO still wins.

They dragged the clients and the providers into court. The papers have pasted their faces in print with headlines and the accusation has been made.

Damage done. You'll never hear that the case was tossed out or the accused found innocent. That's doesn't make headlines but you might find it tucked away on page 33.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Kozmo;2449148]I have a good friend who ran AMP's years ago, and believe it or not, some undercover officers posing as clients to sting a provider absolutely do enjoy the entire session before calling in the swarm. Not in every case, but once she got busted and went through the whole court proceeding charged with offering for a fee. While I was escorting her into the court, she explained to me that not one, but several officers who raided her spa were in fact repeat customers. The "uc" who made the arrest actually enjoyed his extra before blowing the whistle. Absolutely true. Whole case went to trial for a year, got thrown out- no warrant to search, and they destroyed the place. On another incident, she was kindly asked to " come down to the station " to talk with the uncle, whereas she was shown photos of her clients entering and exiting her spa, her ads from BP, etc. And reviews also. She was kindly asked to shut down and leave with no issue, and did so respectively. Funny thing is- the uncle also explained to her that both he and several other associates wearing the same uniform actually frequented her spa, and loved it. Pressure from the town folk was directed towards closing the spa, and it was handled in a polite manner. Uncle told her " we know what's going on"- you get the picture. Some spa owners are asked nicely to close, and they quietly do so. Some get raided. Some girls are careful, and some girls are so blinded by greed, they will proposition any client- and bring problems. Actually quite a few uncles frequent these spa's, and why not- at the end of the day they are still men. On another note, having seen evidence against one AMP- I read that customers were stopped after leaving the spa, like a mile down the road or so- then they were questioned. Think you can just say" Only massage!" and they will leave you alone?? Guess again. Customers who were stopped were told point blank " I Know why you were here" and before you tell me " Sir, I only had a massage- my back was hurting" The next response was " fine". " Oh, and by the way, if WE send a "uc" in the spa and he gets propositioned, we are shutting the place down. " Then, we will charge YOU with giving false information". This scenario generated multiple " okay, I got a he", and evidence was collected against the spa. You can just imagine the problems this would cause at home when mama checks the mail before you and sees the letter from the court. "Honey, . What's this all about?[/QUOTE]"Officer, am I being detained or am I free to go?

Say nothing. Just witnessing you leaving a building is NOT evidence of a crime in and of itself (in these cases). "We know what you were doing. " No. They suspect. Suspicion is not proof. It's all bullshit intended to intimidate.

Remember, your human nature to comply and please a questioner combined with a programmed deference to authority is your worst weakness. Unless you're caught in the act, they have nothing on you. They don't KNOW anything.

Be polite and walk away. Making any statement can only hurt you. You have a right to refuse to give testimony which might incriminate you. Silence is NOT indicative of guilt.

And remember, Massachusetts does not have a stop and identify statute.

[QUOTE=HowardSprague;2449673]
And remember, Massachusetts does not have a stop and identify statute.[/QUOTE]HS, could you please shed a little light on this sentence. I think it may be important and get glossed over.

Thanks.

Pw.

[QUOTE=PwHerman;2450130]HS, could you please shed a little light on this sentence. I think it may be important and get glossed over.[/QUOTE]Subject to HS' answer, here's Wikipedia: ' "Stop and identify" statutes are statute laws in the United States that authorize police to legally obtain the identification of someone whom they reasonably suspect has committed a crime. If the person is not reasonably suspected of committing a crime, they are not required to provide identification, even in states with stop and identify statutes. '.

Police can 1) arrest you, 2) detain you, 3) have a consensual, voluntary conversation with you, or 4) ignore you. To be detained, they must have "a reasonable suspicion" that you committed, or will commit, a crime. If they detain you, you are NOT obliged to answer questions. An exception: stop and identify laws specifically require you to provide identification to police when detained.

HS' advice is spot on: Offer no information, and politely ask if you are being detained, or are free to leave.

[QUOTE=Jolem;2450717]Subject to HS' answer, here's Wikipedia: ' "Stop and identify" statutes are statute laws in the United States that authorize police to legally obtain the identification of someone whom they reasonably suspect has committed a crime. If the person is not reasonably suspected of committing a crime, they are not required to provide identification, even in states with stop and identify statutes. '.

Police can 1) arrest you, 2) detain you, 3) have a consensual, voluntary conversation with you, or 4) ignore you. To be detained, they must have "a reasonable suspicion" that you committed, or will commit, a crime. If they detain you, you are NOT obliged to answer questions. An exception: stop and identify laws specifically require you to provide identification to police when detained.

HS' advice is spot on: Offer no information, and politely ask if you are being detained, or are free to leave.[/QUOTE]That pretty much says it all. But my understanding has been that stop and identify does not require a reasonable suspicion as cops can always stop you (and often search) based on reasonable suspicion, hence the statute to give them even more leeway.

As with anything in law, there are RARELY cut and dried answers. There are always variables. That certainly applies to stops and searches.

We are enveloped in a shell of legal innocence. Cops look for cracks (anything unlawful) in that shell as a way to legally get to you. Whether it was a crack or just a mark on the shell is determined by the courts and affects the admissibility of the evidence the cops find inside that shell. So, they can't really bust you for walking out of an AMP because they don't have any evidence of a crime (though that's not what they'll tell you if they do stop you), but if you stumble they can say they suspected public intoxication. If your car has a cracked taillight, they can stop you for faulty equipment. Those are valid excuses for a stop allowing them to start probing.

[QUOTE=HowardSprague;2450787]But my understanding has been that stop and identify does not require a reasonable suspicion as cops can always stop you (and often search) based on reasonable suspicion, hence the statute to give them even more leeway.[/QUOTE]Absolutely, HS, when I said 'exception' I also meant to their burden of proof. Thanks for clarifying and for good advice!

The thing that outweighs all of this law conversation is that cops lie. They make things up, plant evidence, etc etc. Many times they justify this because they believe you are guilty and don't care about the law.

Lily is a young, shapely masseuse at Chi Bodyworks. Friendly, no-rush attitude, face 6/10 body 7/10. Good, vigorous bodyrub, HE with UTC roaming on top, OTC below. . 45/. 4 for 1/2 hr. Walk-in, 3 girls working midday, and was even offered a look at them before choosing (I declined, went w Lily right off).

[QUOTE=JohnBoy69;2336674]HD, when in newton, try Chi Bodyworks in chestnut hill on rt 9 W 6179930317 ask for michelle (boss) and if she works that day. You're in luck, if not there are a few amy, alice. Joy. Always left happy but no FS. Jb.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Katokay;2451496]The thing that outweighs all of this law conversation is that cops lie. They make things up, plant evidence, etc etc. Many times they justify this because they believe you are guilty and don't care about the law.[/QUOTE]There are those who are so gullible that they think every cop tells the truth. ROFLMAO.

[QUOTE=CMeLater19;2449583]Anyone know of any FS spas in qtown?

And what's the going rate these days?

Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]Ampfan228 just made a very informative post a few pages back on options in Qtown. You have to do your part by at least putting in some effort to reading this thread. So much info in here. Look and you shall find!

[QUOTE=SpermSac;2451853]There are those who are so gullible that they think every cop tells the truth. ROFLMAO.[/QUOTE]Most cases end up being taken care of in court. Not sure if any of these cases ever have a trial. Does anyone know? Do the girls and mama san get deported?

Heard that the places shut down and just open elsewhere.

[QUOTE=AmpExplorer;2448817]Previous locations Yumi worked more was available.

Wonder if she knew you from before you could get "grandfathered" in for extras? Or is she playing it safe in Norwood.

Do not like places in residential areas from what it sounds like.

Which place in norwood? Northern lights or place on RT 1 at gas station?[/QUOTE]I noticed it at Northern Lights. I'm still considering checking it out, but as I said seeing LEO parked in back of the place. (that one time) has made me reluctant to pull the trigger. Ill post something if I do. Now that RI is options are drying up and over used, its about time I find something a little closer to home.

Anyway aside from people getting freak out of getting caught and stuff.

I decided to visit my good ole wendy in wakefield, she has a worker name cici english is ok cute lady slim age 35 and her massage skills is awesome.

Please note if you have a weak back you better let her know cause she will put her knees on your back full weight and also she puts a towel on your back and if it wasnt for those
towel those pointing knees of her will probly break me in half. I am now feeling it this morning. I opt for one hour and there was no rush and no tips was ask.

Session ended with a good finish anyone who is a regular of wendy and if you don't like her workers she will note of it and make sure they won't return.

But anyway 6+4 with tip and I was satisfied for the day as of my body was out of sync. Seniors can msg me for more info.

I saw Wendy yesterday and she wasn't at her bestr with me. Actually it was the worst time that I have had with her. She answered her phone and made appointments the entire time. Then she watched the clock and rushed me without giving me the full time. I have had some great sessions with her but after yesterday I will not return. There are too many other options.

[QUOTE=AmpSlave;2452524]Most cases end up being taken care of in court. Not sure if any of these cases ever have a trial. Does anyone know? Do the girls and mama san get deported?

Heard that the places shut down and just open elsewhere.[/QUOTE]It depends on whether they want and can afford to fight. Most people can't really afford to go to trial, so they plead out. Even if they're innocent. In these cases it's fines for girls and mamasan. Unless the cops think they can make a trafficking charge. Then it gets ugly and expensive for the mamasan. But they mostly treat the girls as victims. Maybe get a night in jail with the fine, but that's about it. The shops often lose their business licenses. Whether they reopen depends on what charges they've faced and how tenacious they are.

Did a walk in, very cute girl with heavy makeup greeted me. She was wearing miniskirt and fishnets so I was happy / hopeful. Took me in and told me to "get ready". Knock knock? Whose there? Not the chick in the fishnets!! Much plainer girl in jeans and tshirt, think she said Lisa, enters. Not terrible, not fishnet girl. Massage was ok, opted for 1/2 hr, teasing started quickly. Flipped and got UTC access on top while she gave a nice finish. Not bad not great. 40/40 damages. Fishnets was with a monger in closed room when I was leaving. Going back and trying for fishnets. Anyone know her name?

Swung by here today. The last time I visited here, there was an older asian woman who although wasn't bad looking, she certainly wasn't a '10. ' Today, I was pleasantly surprised to see a younger (late 20's or early 30's) attractive asian gal there. Very easy on the eyes and friendly. She must be new because she was definitely not the woman I met before. Anyway, I made an appointment for this coming Monday. Hoping for the best but certainly not betting on it. After all, the Hanover Police Department is basically within walking distance of it. Stranger things have happened though.

[QUOTE=JoeFish;2453550]Swung by here today. The last time I visited here, there was an older asian woman who although wasn't bad looking, she certainly wasn't a '10. ' Today, I was pleasantly surprised to see a younger (late 20's or early 30's) attractive asian gal there. Very easy on the eyes and friendly. She must be new because she was definitely not the woman I met before. Anyway, I made an appointment for this coming Monday. Hoping for the best but certainly not betting on it. After all, the Hanover Police Department is basically within walking distance of it. Stranger things have happened though.[/QUOTE]Don't waste your money there are no specials in that place. Just a half decent massage with nothing else.

[QUOTE=JoeFish;2453550]Swung by here today. The last time I visited here, there was an older asian woman who although wasn't bad looking, she certainly wasn't a '10. ' Today, I was pleasantly surprised to see a younger (late 20's or early 30's) attractive asian gal there. Very easy on the eyes and friendly. She must be new because she was definitely not the woman I met before. Anyway, I made an appointment for this coming Monday. Hoping for the best but certainly not betting on it. After all, the Hanover Police Department is basically within walking distance of it. Stranger things have happened though.[/QUOTE]Don't waste your money there are no specials in that place. Just a half decent massage.

[QUOTE=Hazed79;2452840]I noticed it at Northern Lights. I'm still considering checking it out, but as I said seeing LEO parked in back of the place. (that one time) has made me reluctant to pull the trigger. Ill post something if I do. Now that RI is options are drying up and over used, its about time I find something a little closer to home.[/QUOTE]Visited that place, 40 yo very average looking lady was working there, her name was Yumi. She has no partners and running the shop by herself. Bigger tits than most Asian ladies. The massage was very short but the tease lasted for a while. After the flip UTC on top + HE. It seemed she was trying to get me out of there ASAP, I felt a little rushed. Half hour = 40 + 40.

-BH.

Have seen many in the same boat as me, looking for a spot in Newton. Thanks to a tip from a member here tried Hot Springs in Newton. Walked in and found an older not too attractive woman. Was tempted to walk out but went through with it. Massage was great, wasn't even sure I wanted extras though. Then the rub starts feeling good. Then she worked me up so good I was looking forward to the flip. Great finish. Looks were below par but between the nice massage and solid finish I'll repeat. 60-40.

Tried this place in Boston because I was in the area. Providers name was Mandy. Good massage. Did not leave happy. Actually heard a lady come in for a massage. Will not return. 60-20. Anyone have any luck?

BB.

Hi:

Does anyone have digits for Judy who was most recently at the AAMP on Chelmsford St. ? Seems she has moved on. Number in ad is 508-844- on BP.

Thanks.

Sorry BP no digits to share, but I saw her three times while she was there. I understand. I spoke with her handeler yesterday and offered me the replacement. I passed and stayed north on my home turf. She was quite good I agree. I can share w you on dm when encounter one like her they are around and seems more frequent.

[QUOTE=BillyPilgrim;2454340]Hi:

Does anyone have digits for Judy who was most recently at the AAMP on Chelmsford St. ? Seems she has moved on. Number in ad is 508-844- on BP.

Thanks.[/QUOTE].

That's a new development if it's true!

[QUOTE=AmpFan228;2443651]Seems like we do this every few months. There are two Xen spas In quincy. The first is 496 hancock. This is where Gina works Monday's and apparently Wednesdays. She has a fairly extensive menu to clients with a history and probably anyone else willing to pay extra. The other zen is at Coddington. This is where you will find Judy Mimi and Salina. And if memory serves you will see LILI again the second week of May. As far as your favorite place in Qtown. That really depends what you're looking for. I would say if you want cheapest full service go to star. If you want quality full service go to 208. If you want actual massage skills go see Salina who is actually licensed. If you want young go to Fayette st. If you want nice breasts go to angel. If you want late night service go to water st or faxon. Fu Shen and billings I avoid but I heard 2 wallaston ave is under new management and has some capable providers. This place doesn't advertise that I've seen but you can leave happy here.[/QUOTE]

Ok, stopped by one of my favs in Qtown Hancock and had an hour special two days ago and now I have poison ivy on my back and legs. I am not by any chance a gardener or someone that plays in poison ivy. The only place that I believe that I may have gotten it was from there. Anyone else? I could be wrong but on my back?

[QUOTE=AmpSlave;2455753]Ok, stopped by one of my favs in Qtown Hancock and had an hour special two days ago and now I have poison ivy on my back and legs. I am not by any chance a gardener or someone that plays in poison ivy. The only place that I believe that I may have gotten it was from there. Anyone else? I could be wrong but on my back?[/QUOTE]Sure its ivy and not a rash or paricite, keep in mind the same stuff you can catch at the gym, you can get at a rub and tug. Atheists foot, cold, flue, rashes from paricites, some forms of warts and reactions to simple cleaning agents and oils.

Seen the ad has a shower, not much posted, any Intel.

[QUOTE=HappyDave;2456314]Sure its ivy and not a rash or paricite, keep in mind the same stuff you can catch at the gym, you can get at a rub and tug. Atheists foot, cold, flue, rashes from paricites, some forms of warts and reactions to simple cleaning agents and oils.[/QUOTE]It's obvious you meant athlete's foot and you're just a victim of autocorrect but I laughed out loud at "Atheist's foot."

[QUOTE=JackADogov;2456426]It's obvious you meant athlete's foot and you're just a victim of autocorrect but I laughed out loud at "Atheist's foot."[/QUOTE]Some visits there is no god, . And some times God Grants a great time. Yes auto check changes things on send and trying to fix it makes it worse.

[QUOTE=AmpSlave;2455753]Ok, stopped by one of my favs in Qtown Hancock and had an hour special two days ago and now I have poison ivy on my back and legs. I am not by any chance a gardener or someone that plays in poison ivy. The only place that I believe that I may have gotten it was from there. Anyone else? I could be wrong but on my back?[/QUOTE]'[URL]http://www.askdoctork.com/is-it-possible-to-catch-poison-ivy-from-another-person-201307245177[/URL]'.

I always forget how to attach a link. Hopefully this one worked.

[QUOTE=YelloTail;2456446]'[URL]http://www.askdoctork.com/is-it-possible-to-catch-poison-ivy-from-another-person-201307245177[/URL]'.

I always forget how to attach a link. Hopefully this one worked.[/QUOTE]It is true you cannot catch poison ivy from another person, but had someone say been doing yard work and been in contact with poison ivy and gone for a massage without washing, the oil could still be on their skin and then if the sheet or towel was re-used without proper washing, it could then cause a skin reaction on another.

I don't have links but I am highly allergic to poison ivy so in the past I have read up on all the ways I could contract it if I don't actually touch the plants.

[QUOTE=SecretSquirell;2456458]It is true you cannot catch poison ivy from another person, but had someone say been doing yard work and been in contact with poison ivy and gone for a massage without washing, the oil could still be on their skin and then if the sheet or towel was re-used without proper washing, it could then cause a skin reaction on another.

I don't have links but I am highly allergic to poison ivy so in the past I have read up on all the ways I could contract it if I don't actually touch the plants.[/QUOTE]Person could be doing yard work goes to AMP later but oils are on chair in room or even on table.

If he had oils in hair not rinsed in table shower.

Lots of people get poison ivy contact dermatitis rashes from their pets going outside and getting the plant oils.

On their fur. Then the oils can be "left" anywhere in the house.

[QUOTE=HappyDave;2456393]Seen the ad has a shower, not much posted, any Intel.[/QUOTE]I posted a Week ago. Place is clean with a shower ypu can take. Pm me for for details.