Does anyone know of an AMP in the area that does back walks? (Some places actually have bars on the ceiling for it).
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Does anyone know of an AMP in the area that does back walks? (Some places actually have bars on the ceiling for it).
[QUOTE=Bismark;3957052]If it happens, it happens. Not going to lose sleep over it. I agree with you; the prices there are high. I'm willing to go an extra 20 if the reputation turns out to be true. I'm not willing to buy an hour and less than half way in be asked to self-service. As I wrote before, I won't be back.[/QUOTE]I totally agree with Mr. Bismark, Paying extra for extra is OK.
If you're not getting good service with a smile, don't pay the price or tip anything and don't go back.
It's our money, we should only be giving to the best providers for the best service. That's why this forum exists.
As far as self service goes, I've done it many times when a massage provider has me on the table, dick in hand and tries the Upsell.
I'm happy to show them How it's done and they can watch for free.
When they cum to their senses and realize they just lost the negation battle, they back peddle and want to join in for any tip they can get. Try it sometime it's actually very funny to watch them react to losing money.
I booked 30 min with Winter and 5 min into massage she asks if I want to play and how much did I bring. I said yes and I brought 80. She told me that wasn't enough. I'm thinking 130 for 30 min is a lot. I had a bad feeling and 3 minutes later her phone rings and she answers it. I'm thinking WTF. I get up to leave and she hangs up her phone and asks what I'm doing I told her I'm leaving and said I paid 50 for 7 min and I'm on my way. She exited the room while I got dressed and was complaining to her boss. Her boss questioned me for leaving and I said I paid 50 for 7 min and she thought I should still tip Winter for not doing anything. I won't be back.
[QUOTE=Benz1;3957096]I totally agree with Mr. Bismark, Paying extra for extra is OK.
If you're not getting good service with a smile, don't pay the price or tip anything and don't go back.
It's our money, we should only be giving to the best providers for the best service. That's why this forum exists.
As far as self service goes, I've done it many times when a massage provider has me on the table, dick in hand and tries the Upsell.
I'm happy to show them How it's done and they can watch for free.
When they cum to their senses and realize they just lost the negation battle, they back peddle and want to join in for any tip they can get. Try it sometime it's actually very funny to watch them react to losing money.[/QUOTE]
I go to Las Vegas 6 or more time a year for business. There the MP's usually have everything on the menu, you just need to find right price.
The MP's there are far more expensive and when they have your dick in their hand it can start from $100.00 and up to a HE and $200.00 for a BJ and more for FS.
If I can not come to an agreement at a price that works for me then I have been known to get off the table, stiffy and all and leave.
Like Benz I have left after doing it myself. Had that happen a few weeks ago in Toledo.
The lady left the room and I used a towel or two to clean up.
I always keep my tip money in my shoe and when I put my shoes on I will always make sure they see the cash that I am walking out with.
Believe me attitudes change at that point.
[QUOTE=Benz1;3957096]I totally agree with Mr. Bismark, Paying extra for extra is OK.
If you're not getting good service with a smile, don't pay the price or tip anything and don't go back.
It's our money, we should only be giving to the best providers for the best service. That's why this forum exists.
As far as self service goes, I've done it many times when a massage provider has me on the table, dick in hand and tries the Upsell.
I'm happy to show them How it's done and they can watch for free.
When they cum to their senses and realize they just lost the negation battle, they back peddle and want to join in for any tip they can get. Try it sometime it's actually very funny to watch them react to losing money.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=JustMe1973;3957069]Does anyone know of an AMP in the area that does back walks? (Some places actually have bars on the ceiling for it).[/QUOTE]Lotus Flower Body Works on Burton and Happy Feet on Breton.
Went to Asian blessings on Fuller tonight and found the massage excellent. No HE, at least not on first visit, but the massage itself is definitely worth it.
[QUOTE=GuitarMan;3957506]Lotus Flower Body Works on Burton and Happy Feet on Breton.[/QUOTE]HE available in these places?
[QUOTE=GuitarMan;3957506]Lotus Flower Body Works on Burton and Happy Feet on Breton.[/QUOTE]I've always been curious about Happy Feet. Decent massage? HE? If no one has TOFT, maybe I'll test the waters one of these days.
[QUOTE=TonyNash900;3957296]I booked 30 min with Winter and 5 min into massage she asks if I want to play and how much did I bring. I said yes and I brought 80. She told me that wasn't enough. I'm thinking 130 for 30 min is a lot. I had a bad feeling and 3 minutes later her phone rings and she answers it. I'm thinking WTF. I get up to leave and she hangs up her phone and asks what I'm doing I told her I'm leaving and said I paid 50 for 7 min and I'm on my way. She exited the room while I got dressed and was complaining to her boss. Her boss questioned me for leaving and I said I paid 50 for 7 min and she thought I should still tip Winter for not doing anything. I won't be back.[/QUOTE]You are the man! Answer the phone on your own time. I would never dream of answering my phone while I am with a client and my clients wouldn't care if I did. If she has to answer the phone, she should wear a Bluetooth so that she can keep those hands moving.
[QUOTE=Donntee;3957970]You are the man! Answer the phone on your own time. I would never dream of answering my phone while I am with a client and my clients wouldn't care if I did. If she has to answer the phone, she should wear a Bluetooth so that she can keep those hands moving.[/QUOTE]I thought this went without saying but we are dealing with the generation that recieved participation trophys.
Sounds like we should be telling them, if you answer or look at your phone you won't be getting a tip. I'm paying for my time with you.
[QUOTE=Bismark;3950912]Natasha, while she does put on a very hot show, doesn't do much more than a topless HJ when all is said and done (unless she's been fibbing to me for years). It's the way she teases and acts that makes her so good I think.
Alternatively, I've had a far better time with Leslie than Derick describes. I suspect we are seeing the effects of YMMV here.[/QUOTE]She's been known to tell an occasional fib here and there.
[QUOTE=TonyNash900;3957296]I booked 30 min with Winter and 5 min into massage she asks if I want to play and how much did I bring. I said yes and I brought 80. She told me that wasn't enough. I'm thinking 130 for 30 min is a lot. I had a bad feeling and 3 minutes later her phone rings and she answers it. I'm thinking WTF. I get up to leave and she hangs up her phone and asks what I'm doing I told her I'm leaving and said I paid 50 for 7 min and I'm on my way. She exited the room while I got dressed and was complaining to her boss. Her boss questioned me for leaving and I said I paid 50 for 7 min and she thought I should still tip Winter for not doing anything. I won't be back.[/QUOTE]To be fair, what does her "play" entail where $80 tip isn't enough? Devil's in the details. If it was a topless handy, and she pshawed $80, I too would have walked out. Her asking you to flip 5 minutes indicates she might be going in that direction. Now, if her version of "play" is FS, then with a hottie, and being at a massage parlor, sure, $80 is too little. As for a BJ, I would say that asking for more than $100 tip when the massage was just 5 minutes would be going over the top, unless it entailed a long, drawn out sensual experience surrounding that BJ that soaked up the time. Then I could see asking for $120-$130, but, if you haven't seen her nor she having rave reviews on the overall experience that it'd entail by others getting that BJ, it'd be SILLY to take a gal's word for it when asking to flip 5m in.
[QUOTE]Sounds like we should be telling them, if you answer or look at your phone you won't be getting a tip. I'm paying for my time with you.[/QUOTE]Personally, I don't mind too much if I Know it's going to be a lengthy, unrushed session and she's more than generous (not So easy to find though). That's fine when massaging my back and apologize and respond to something, like some appt that was scheduled not too far from my time there. And they probably see it that way too. Which results in one-thing-leads-to-another, and they slip into taking things for granted as still the "okay" way (sigh). I think when things are going good, they shouldn't push their luck and have their manager put them in their place to remind them that responding to a text is the Exception, not the rule at all.
In the end, when things are going good for a place, they need to not get too high on themselves, and instead take a step back. When people are getting too high on themselves, feeding off what others can get "away" with, they won't realize when they're going too-far. I think that's why a manager at a place is important, to keep things in check and not let things get ridiculous.
[QUOTE=Bismark;3955757]Booked Winter for an hour (80 at Serenity). She's a very pretty woman on the youngish side (early 20's).
She started off with a decent massage. I got a little concerned when the flip happened 15 minutes in. She asked if I came to play and offered topless for 0. 6 and nude for $1. 2. I went for topless; 120 is a lot to me for nothing more than a pretty naked woman. More surprising is she tells me she usually gets 200 for full nude.
She allowed some roaming across her back side but not up top. She started the HE and, a few minutes in asked for me to take over. I said no to that and was told she wasn't there to jack guys off. This ended the session at about 29 minutes.
Mileage varies; I have heard better things about Winter (the reason I went at all) and I had a session with Haley some time ago which was far better (though spendy). Winter is attractive so I won't waste anyone's time by suggesting what they should or shouldn't do.
I won't be back. Total out, $150 (80 for the room, 10 for the CC upcharge, and 60 for the tip) for a reasonable massage and a very unhappy ending.[/QUOTE]Hayley did reach out to me here. She is aware of the issues I and others have had and is working on solutions. I have not decided if I am going to try again but I will be open minded as others review new providers there. In case anyone is wondering, she did offer a break should I want to try again though I don't know how much of one (not fishing for anything; just trying to be up front) and I'm not sure I am interested yet. If that affects anyone's assessment of all this, so be it.
[QUOTE=LoveTheLips;3957903]I've always been curious about Happy Feet. Decent massage? HE? If no one has TOFT, maybe I'll test the waters one of these days.[/QUOTE]The times I have been there so far great massage no HE.
I've seen her a couple times as well with similar results. 5 minute massage then flip and a huge upsell. She's nice enough but she's looking for $ for topless. Sounds like some more is available but not everything, and for a huge upsell. She's cute but uninterested and too pricey. All the other girls I've seen there have been great.
[QUOTE=Charlie441;3958459]To be fair, what does her "play" entail where $80 tip isn't enough? Devil's in the details. If it was a topless handy, and she pshawed $80, I too would have walked out. Her asking you to flip 5 minutes indicates she might be going in that direction. Now, if her version of "play" is FS, then with a hottie, and being at a massage parlor, sure, $80 is too little. As for a BJ, I would say that asking for more than $100 tip when the massage was just 5 minutes would be going over the top, unless it entailed a long, drawn out sensual experience surrounding that BJ that soaked up the time. Then I could see asking for $120-$130, but, if you haven't seen her nor she having rave reviews on the overall experience that it'd entail by others getting that BJ, it'd be SILLY to take a gal's word for it when asking to flip 5m in.
Personally, I don't mind too much if I Know it's going to be a lengthy, unrushed session and she's more than generous (not So easy to find though). That's fine when massaging my back and apologize and respond to something, like some appt that was scheduled not too far from my time there. And they probably see it that way too. Which results in one-thing-leads-to-another, and they slip into taking things for granted as still the "okay" way (sigh). I think when things are going good, they shouldn't push their luck and have their manager put them in their place to remind them that responding to a text is the Exception, not the rule at all.
In the end, when things are going good for a place, they need to not get too high on themselves, and instead take a step back. When people are getting too high on themselves, feeding off what others can get "away" with, they won't realize when they're going too-far. I think that's why a manager at a place is important, to keep things in check and not let things get ridiculous.[/QUOTE]