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Yes Tee was giving GPS vibes but turns out she has a pimp its a black photographer named Mark.
He pimps several dancers here along free photoshoots in return.
He pimps out Dream, Melody, Meadow, Aria too and pass his her around to his other associate J. Alex. I saw dream get dropped off by him. Tee was so quick to throw her pitch but saw right through it! I'm feed up with Mr. Kim clubs. Over priced! Time to hit up Xs.
[QUOTE=Billj1034;7291709]Having a persistent record of ROBs is something definitely missed after the demise of bonedin. Can one of the admins start a user blog: ROBs of Kim. Dancers can get away with this in Vegas, but at Synn I suspect most of the people doing $3 extras are regulars. If you're a scammer, between reviews on this site and dissatisfied customers, you'll run out of work in a couple months. While we're on the subject I'll add Bratt at synn to my ROB list.[/QUOTE]
Brat is young and cute but definitely a Rob. A really slow day went to VIP with her. Agreed $$$ but want more when change positions.
Avoid her.
About pay after finish, most of girl request money in front.
Do you guys really insist paying after when the girl requests in the VIP?
I think its hard. Most of girls want to pay in front still honor their menu.
So I don't think its worthy to argue with girl in the begining of VIP.
BTW, one time I went to VIP with a girl for 30 minutes.
She stopped me after 15 minutes saying she cum and cannot take anymore.
I told her I didn't finish so if she cannot continue then I cannot pay her full amount.
Then she said if I don't pay her full she will call the bouncer and kick me out.
What would you guys do when you fall into this kind of situation?
Ans what happen if the Bouncer kick you out?
[QUOTE=SuperFreakOMG3;7291509]Agreed. I was there on a slow night but saw a popular girl go to the VIP 5 times that night.
Let's assume a conservative $3 per visit. That's $1500 1 night.
Times let's say 4 nights a week, x 4 weeks in a month = 16 nights x $1500 = $24,000 just in tips, not including whatever split they do for the VIPs and drinks.
$24,000 x 10 months (let's assume 2 months of breaks or big vacay for these girls) = $240,000 cash.
Assume 70% tax rate, that's an effective $340,000 a year some of these girls are making. Not all, not most, but some.[/QUOTE]Days worked by dancer for 42 recent days of data. Only showing ones that worked at least half the days.
Shay,32.
Paris,30.
Kandy,29.
Malena,27.
Sin,26.
Syx,24.
PEACH,24.
Emmylou,23.
Awesome,23.
Armani,23.
Chi,22.
Cara,22.
Ariana,22.
Gina,21.
Fiji,21.
Cinnamon,21.
[QUOTE=LaoneBug;7292023]Brat is young and cute but definitely a Rob. A really slow day went to VIP with her. Agreed $$$ but want more when change positions.
Avoid her.
About pay after finish, most of girl request money in front.
Do you guys really insist paying after when the girl requests in the VIP?
I think its hard. Most of girls want to pay in front still honor their menu.
So I don't think its worthy to argue with girl in the begining of VIP.
BTW, one time I went to VIP with a girl for 30 minutes.
She stopped me after 15 minutes saying she cum and cannot take anymore.
I told her I didn't finish so if she cannot continue then I cannot pay her full amount.
Then she said if I don't pay her full she will call the bouncer and kick me out.
What would you guys do when you fall into this kind of situation?
Ans what happen if the Bouncer kick you out?[/QUOTE]Good info on Brat thanks for that.
Agreed it's not worth the potential argument. If it's a girl with an established history, I'll pay upfront no problem. If it helps put her at ease it'll make for a more enjoyable experience for both of us. It USUALLY isn't a problem.
Even if it's a new girl I'll still pay upfront for the above same reason. At this point I am rolling the dice for sure. It is rare to be scammed like this (at least for me) so when it does happen, at least I know to avoid this girl in the future.
LOL well you should consider it a compliment! Stop hitting it so good. But to answer your question, I would've asked her to finish me off with her mouth at least, or if that fails, with her hand (worse possible scenario I know). If she's someone you want to see in the future then try to remedy the situation.
I had a similar situation with Bonita; pretty sexy little thing, I didn't bust but time was up. She starts getting dressed, I complain I didn't bust, she says "babe that's your fault. " Lolol. These girls. Welp, that's another one on the "avoid" list, at least for me.
For me, I always call their bluff. "Go ahead call the bouncer. " I don't really get fearful; the way I look at it, since I'm a regular, management will think twice before kicking me out. I'M the one paying the club's bills, not the girls (technically.) Even if I wasn't a regular I still would call their bluff, come to think of it. Then again, that's me, I dunno how confident you are with doing that, especially if their complaint is unreasonable and I'm reasonable.
For you in this situation, I'd probably just pay in full then avoid her, and let all of us know who it is so we can watch out for her. Chalk it up as lesson learned.
I've never been kicked out so I wouldn't know. Honestly just be cool with management, don't have to be buddy-buddy with them, and they should have your back (assuming the situation is reasonable.).
[QUOTE=Billj1034;7292106]Days worked by dancer for 42 recent days of data. Only showing ones that worked at least half the days.
Shay,32.
Paris,30.
Kandy,29.
Malena,27.
Sin,26.
Syx,24.
PEACH,24.
Emmylou,23.
Awesome,23.
Armani,23.
Chi,22.
Cara,22.
Ariana,22.
Gina,21.
Fiji,21.
Cinnamon,21.[/QUOTE]I love this stuff! Data baby! Thank you!
I'd say at max, 3 of those girls are making 5 digits a month. Based on their popularity, willingness to do extras, and cost. Paris, Shay, Syx are my best guesses. Some of the other girls sure but I don't go during their shifts so I wouldn't know how to guess. Ariana and Fiji maybe.
Some are known "non-extras" girls like Malena, but she's hot and popular enough. I still don't think she's at 5 digits a month, come to think of it.
Her and the rest I'd put at 4 digits a month.
Just curious, anyone know what happened to Henny? Hispanic, some neck / facial tattoos, skinny, maybe A cups (or small B? I know she used to dance at some of the Kim clubs.
[QUOTE=SuperFreakOMG3;7291500]Careful with Tee boys; hot girl and can be sweet but she scammed me. Negotiated a number, she took the number, then said "I aint doing nothin unless you give me more. " Little head took over and gave in. No more money and business for that girl from me.[/QUOTE]She escorts and sells pussy on Eros here is the link and she can be had for a reasonable price.
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The only complaint I have is she is fatter in person compared to the pictures.
Went to Synn, Actually spoke to Paris (nice person), $600 for a good time, and $500 for Tee (nice person, for sure. But, forget that: I'll search elsewhere. I'm not rich nor cheap.
[QUOTE=SuperFreakOMG3;7292422]I love this stuff! Data baby! Thank you!
I'd say at max, 3 of those girls are making 5 digits a month. Based on their popularity, willingness to do extras, and cost. Paris, Shay, Syx are my best guesses. Some of the other girls sure but I don't go during their shifts so I wouldn't know how to guess. Ariana and Fiji maybe.
Some are known "non-extras" girls like Malena, but she's hot and popular enough. I still don't think she's at 5 digits a month, come to think of it.
Her and the rest I'd put at 4 digits a month.[/QUOTE]Only the girls know how much they make. Not us customers. You men need to Add the 5 sugar Daddies theses women have ASIDE FROM DANCING AND FUCKING. Hell, Dream has 4 Sugar Daddies, Royalty has 7, yes, I asked politely at one point past tense.
Nyoko's working at SR; I wonder what happened / how management feels putting this girl on their billboard and she's working for the competition.
Oh and Barbie Imperial Anaheim is at Bare Elegance LAX as like their special guest dancer on the 22nd.
Maybe it's no big deal; just traveling dancers I guess.
[QUOTE=MinorBother;7293045]Just curious, anyone know what happened to Henny? Hispanic, some neck / facial tattoos, skinny, maybe A cups (or small B? I know she used to dance at some of the Kim clubs.[/QUOTE]On Imperial roll-call tonight. Also dances at Paradise occasionally as Hennessy. But appearances are pretty rare.
[QUOTE=Billj1034;7293208]On Imperial roll-call tonight. Also dances at Paradise occasionally as Hennessy. But appearances are pretty rare.[/QUOTE]Thanks. Been radio silence on IG for about a month, but used to post regularly.
[QUOTE=SuperFreakOMG3;7292422]I love this stuff! Data baby! Thank you!
I'd say at max, 3 of those girls are making 5 digits a month. Based on their popularity, willingness to do extras, and cost. Paris, Shay, Syx are my best guesses. Some of the other girls sure but I don't go during their shifts so I wouldn't know how to guess. Ariana and Fiji maybe.
Some are known "non-extras" girls like Malena, but she's hot and popular enough. I still don't think she's at 5 digits a month, come to think of it.
Her and the rest I'd put at 4 digits a month.[/QUOTE]Some dancers do outcalls that significantly boost their income. Paris for instance does outcalls with her customers. She makes bank.
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[QUOTE=SuperFreakOMG3;7291500]Careful with Tee boys; hot girl and can be sweet but she scammed me. Negotiated a number, she took the number, then said "I aint doing nothin unless you give me more. " Little head took over and gave in. No more money and business for that girl from me.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Roland2418;7291464]Tee is hot and major GPS. At least on her first appearance at the club. Maybe she came crawling back and is ready to be realistic.[/QUOTE]In my experience it's not often girls will take money and not deliver, so it has to be called out. Other girls know that word gets around if they do, that's why so few girls do this dumb thing. They know they could be marking a fortune playing it straight. Once you pay a girl, it's the easiest thing in the world for them to follow through. They'd even be willing to do it for less except they don't have to.
Even without the aid of forums and reviews, girls get the hint soon enough when they're not welcome. They will not remember the guys they ripped off but will go up to them and the guy will tell them to fuck off.
[QUOTE=VisitUSA;7293895]Spearmint Rhino City of Industry Major Scammer: India.[/QUOTE]
Thank you for another example. This is not a new problem, but the solution is the same as ever. Name and shame. You are not alone.
Instead of a true rip off I have other problems happen. Like a girl changed her ask when we arrived VIP, so I was pissed and just did a regular VIP rather than negotiate more. She was pissed too, but it was her fault. Months later she forgot me and asked me for a lap dance special so I said sure, worst I could lose is the dance price and they were hot with good service so no complaints there. She even pulled my dick out and started stroking and sucking it which was wild, I didn't even ask her. I tipped her out of principle, she did not even ask for a tip but was selling me on a VIP (which I refused). Then in the light she had a look of recognition - it was me from the VIP months ago. I got off cheap this time!
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I've paid ahead and never had the problem of not delivering, not that it can't happen of course. Other girls have asked me to pay at the end.
[QUOTE=Jeep5151;7293600]Some dancers do outcalls that significantly boost their income. Paris for instance does outcalls with her customers. She makes bank.[/QUOTE]Paris is good looking enough to have many regulars, and even though she is more expensive at least she is upfront about it. I have had way less attractive girls ask for way more.
Most girls at Synn and SR still took 2 but it's less common than before. If I haven't seen a girl in a year I will remind her how much I gave her last time and confirm we're still good. I'm always honest and they always say yes, because again it is the easiest thing in the world to deliver on repeat. Even when I repeat a girl I first make sure on the floor she remembers me and has no new GPS. I remind her the last time was fun, but I'm not sure if I should do it again - I didn't plan to. Do this and make sure her response to that is the right attitude.
Glad that Shay is still there, she was not my type but cool and reasonable to deal with so I was happy. I'd always take a girl with a good attitude over a girl who is my type but GPS.
About negotiating repeats, I'll use a korg example. I mainly use korgs now to bang. But even though FS is standard, there are still extras to negotiate like video. One time I hadn't seen a girl in 6 months and asked her to do video "like last time". She was like "Oh really?" because she actually forgot about it, and most girls don't offer it. But it's not like she has never offered it herself, so it made sense for me to ask like that. So she believed me. Easiest thing in the world when it's like that. I hope this illustrates a key point I'm repeating, give the girl an easy choice or nothing. Never seem too eager either.
This leads to the final tip which is an old strat veterans used. They would only bring their max offer. It used to be 120 or 150 was possible so that's exactly what they would bring (200 seems to be the minimum now). So it was no bluff when they said "that's all they had". They could even open their wallet to briefly show it and put it back. They were not there to haggle, just that they were not going to get anything unless it was for that. Of course, some girls are firm on their number but many took it in the end. To increase your success, you have to feel out a girl how much she needs it on the floor. Don't take her VIP if you think she doesn't. These days 2 or 3 seems to be the low end, many better girls are asking 4 or 5 like P does. I have had some new girls ask way more but just ignore them they have no idea what they're doing. This is easy for me because I'm happy with just a good VIP anyways, I can bang girls at korgs when I want.
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