Massage Parlor Reports

[QUOTE=Wb2908]Wow, kind of want to keep this to myself, but have to share. Dreamed I went to Bella yesterday and met Marina, a Russian girl. Absolute knockout. I caught myself repeating "wow" several times under my breath. Massage was pretty good. No back walking, but pretty strong hands. And I was in need of a decent massage too. She was leary. We played drop the towel a couple of times. She kept putting it back. After the flip, things improved. She started massaging my chest. Now, mind you, she was pretty proper, said "Sorry, I can't" when I asked if she could get more comfortable. Roaming was allowed with restraint. Mild pleading for HR. I like to work for it tho $60 at the door and I way overtipped. 9. But I walked out thinking. "wow". I knew I had to review this one. Honestly, she was maybe a bit detached from the whole HR, but she is so f*cking hot, that was ok with me. Wow.[/QUOTE]

You paid .9 for a HR with limited roaming?! Get out.

[QUOTE=F Blaster]You paid .9 for a HR with limited roaming?! Get out.[/QUOTE]From what I read, he gave .9 for pleading. Doesn't sound like HR happened. Not very bright at all.

[QUOTE=Eddinger]Why do so many of you repeat at a spa that gave you no extras, thinking that the second time it will get better?

Some places just don't give HJs. If you want one, don't go back to those places, go to the ones that you know you will get one.

I read some reports from people here who still after two sessions haven't been given anything other than permission to service yourself, and yet they still think they will get "more" if they keep going back. What a hilarious way to waste your money.[/QUOTE]

I'm in that group. The first time I went to Spa Pleasures, I got Marla and nothing happened. The guy who talked up the place said he got extras from Sara. So the next time I went, I made sure I got Sara. What happened next is well documented.

I've said I never expect extras no matter where I go, but I do hope for them. It was a waste of money in the sense that I didn't get any release, but I did get two pretty good massages. Bottom line, I feel that I was misled by a fellow poster who gave what I consider to be a fabricated recommendation. Lesson learned. Now if I go back thinking extras will be had, then I deserve whatever ridicule is thrown my way.

[QUOTE=Cdthue]From what I read, he gave .9 for pleading. Doesn't sound like HR happened. Not very bright at all.[/QUOTE]Yes, I got my HR. No worries. I've never not gotten one (yet). Well I figure if it was an incall or outcall massage, I'd get a half-ass massage with HR for probably 1. 6. 2. So paying an extremely fine chick for a good massage and HR about the same is ok with me. Normally I max out at 1. 2. But I wanted her to remember me next time I come in Just like tipping anywhere else. I want her to see me and say. I'll get this guy hehe. So not so bright may be accurate. I just couldn't help myself. Sorry. It was the on par with the best I've had. And if I were a bit younger and in a different situation. I could totally see myself trying to lure her out of there and keep her to myself. Maybe it was just me. I'd be curious to see what others have to say about her.

[QUOTE=Wb2908]Yes, I got my HR. No worries. I've never not gotten one (yet). Well I figure if it was an incall or outcall massage, I'd get a half-ass massage with HR for probably 1. 6. 2. So paying an extremely fine chick for a good massage and HR about the same is ok with me. Normally I max out at 1. 2. But I wanted her to remember me next time I come in Just like tipping anywhere else. I want her to see me and say. I'll get this guy hehe. So not so bright may be accurate. I just couldn't help myself. Sorry. It was the on par with the best I've had. And if I were a bit younger and in a different situation. I could totally see myself trying to lure her out of there and keep her to myself. Maybe it was just me. I'd be curious to see what others have to say about her.[/QUOTE]

If you're paying 1.6-2 for an outcall massage and you're only getting HR, then you must be new to the game. I hope you learn something from reading these boards.

.6 is a more than generous tip for HR, .9 is ridiculous. .6 should get you close to bbbj, and .9 should get you close to fs. Don't overpay just to make her think you're cool. She's not thinking, "What a great guy!" She's thinking, "Sucker!"

I doubt if it's "on par with the best (you've) had." You said yourself that she was "maybe a bit detached from the whole HR." You're seeing the situation through rose-colored glasses. In your mind, the experience seems better than it actually was because you find her so attractive. If she was just cute instead of gorgeous, would the massage have been so great?

What do you do when you see her next time? Will you tip .9 again?

I get it. You got carried away in the moment. It happens to most of us. For guys like me, the first time is always the greatest because it's a new feeling. It usually goes downhill from there. Try not to get caught up in expectations and keep a realistic perspective. It'll be better all the way around. You will be far less likely to be disappointed in the future and she has a chance to keep a regular customer.

I see your point, but I have worked for rich people. And whether all the staff and service people around them are thinking "sucker" or not, they all get up to take care of them as soon as they see them coming. I'm OK with her thinking I am a sucker as long as she treats me well.

And yes, I am new to the game, but I'm learning. I don't mean to drive up prices. I definitely got lost in the moment. And I might do the same next time. And since periodic reinforcement is the strongest kind, it might work out well for those of you with weaker economies right now in that she's never going to know who is going to leave a big tip. I certainly don't look like money on the outside. So in that sense, she may strive harder to be good every time. Rather than knowing it's always going to be the same paycheck regardless of how hard she tries. Then she will start daydreaming about what she needs to buy for dinner. I dunno.

I also just hate negotiation. I'd rather come in and say. Hey, I got this much. It's all yours. Do me good. Sounds like some of you guys like to play hard ball and haggle. Pretend you are getting up to leave etc. F that. I want mine hehe. I am also not hunting for extras beyond HR. If they happened to fall on me, that's cool. But I actually like the whole process. Better than regular FS providers. They are always in a rush, no teasing, no massage. I like the massage. Especially walking on my back Good stuff.

I don't mean to start shit, this is just my two cents from a relative newbie. I definitely appreciate everyone that posts. It's how I learned what to expect and what to do to get what I want. Thanks all ya'll.

[QUOTE=F Blaster]If you're paying 1.6-2 for an outcall massage and you're only getting HR, then you must be new to the game. I hope you learn something from reading these boards.

.6 is a more than generous tip for HR, .9 is ridiculous. .6 should get you close to bbbj, and .9 should get you close to fs. Don't overpay just to make her think you're cool. She's not thinking, "What a great guy!" She's thinking, "Sucker!"

I doubt if it's "on par with the best (you've) had." You said yourself that she was "maybe a bit detached from the whole HR." You're seeing the situation through rose-colored glasses. In your mind, the experience seems better than it actually was because you find her so attractive. If she was just cute instead of gorgeous, would the massage have been so great?

What do you do when you see her next time? Will you tip .9 again?

I get it. You got carried away in the moment. It happens to most of us. For guys like me, the first time is always the greatest because it's a new feeling. It usually goes downhill from there. Try not to get caught up in expectations and keep a realistic perspective. It'll be better all the way around. You will be far less likely to be disappointed in the future and she has a chance to keep a regular customer.[/QUOTE]

Blaster: I went back and seen Sara. I told her if she was going to make it in this business she had to be a little more accommodating. After talking to her. I realy think she feels sorry for me. I'm old, bald, defiantly not the best looking guy for sure. I wish things were differnt but it is what it is.

Wouldn't it be nice to know the dates of the posting Yes are No?

Does anyone else find it a little bit of turn off when your Asian massage girl (who weighs less than you and is half your age) starts going on and on about what a great body you have and how strong you are etc. I'm sorry but it does nothing for me except remind me that I'm paying this person to be with me. Am I alone in wishing that they keep their fake compliments to themselves and not patronize me. I drink. I smoke. I have a crappy diet. I'm not healthy and don't want someone pretending that I'm someone with a killer body. This happened for the other at KM.

I had a dream that I visited KM Spa at around 9:00PM the other night. (They close at 10:00). I don't know her name but she was cute, young and thin. The TS was quite playful which was promising. Great massage followed by HR. She allowed roaming outside of her clothes but wouldn't budge on any removal. I love this spa as there is never any negoiations that interfere. (I've been 4 or 5 times and it has always been this way.) My only complaint, is that they shorted me on time. When I got back to my car, the whole experience lasted only 45 minutes. Being their last customer for the night, I wasn't upset as I'm sure they wanted to go home.

Hey don't take it personally, Ziggy. There are plenty of Asian women who don't mind a guy with a heavy center of gravity. In Asain culture, it's a sign of you being a 'boss man', well to do, and well fed. Consider for a moment she's NOT blowing smoke up your ass.

[QUOTE=Ziggy1]Does anyone else find it a little bit of turn off when your Asian massage girl (who weighs less than you and is half your age) starts going on and on about what a great body you have and how strong you are etc. I'm sorry but it does nothing for me except remind me that I'm paying this person to be with me. Am I alone in wishing that they keep their fake compliments to themselves and not patronize me. I drink. I smoke. I have a crappy diet. I'm not healthy and don't want someone pretending that I'm someone with a killer body. This happened for the other at KM.[/QUOTE]

Easy rule to remember: if you can't get HR when you double down the door fee, it ain't going to happen. If she's that unreal, go back often, leave a waitress tip to be nice, and work on your rapport with her. I met a dedicated masseuse at a legit spa for body-to-body at her place, just by being a semi-regular, legit customer. Work on your game, and you can probably bag any legit therapist you want!

[QUOTE=F Blaster]If you're paying $160-$200 for an outcall massage and you're only getting HR, then you must be new to the game. I hope you learn something from reading these boards.

$60 is a more than generous tip for HR, $90 is ridiculous. $60 should get you close to BBBJ, and $90 should get you close to FS. Don't overpay just to make her think you're cool. She's not thinking, "What a great guy! " She's thinking, "Sucker! "

I doubt if it's "on par with the best (you've) had." You said yourself that she was "maybe a bit detached from the whole HR." You're seeing the situation through rose-colored glasses. In your mind, the experience seems better than it actually was because you find her so attractive. If she was just cute instead of gorgeous, would the massage have been so great?

What do you do when you see her next time? Will you tip $90 again?

I get it. You got carried away in the moment. It happens to most of us. For guys like me, the first time is always the greatest because it's a new feeling. It usually goes downhill from there. Try not to get caught up in expectations and keep a realistic perspective. It'll be better all the way around. You will be far less likely to be disappointed in the future and she has a chance to keep a regular customer.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Ziggy1]I had a dream that I visited KM Spa at around 9:00PM the other night. (They close at 10:00). I don't know her name but she was cute, young and thin. The TS was quite playful which was promising. Great massage followed by HR. She allowed roaming outside of her clothes but wouldn't budge on any removal. I love this spa as there is never any negoiations that interfere. (I've been 4 or 5 times and it has always been this way.) My only complaint, is that they shorted me on time. When I got back to my car, the whole experience lasted only 45 minutes. Being their last customer for the night, I wasn't upset as I'm sure they wanted to go home.[/QUOTE]

I had the same dream about KM But I didn't see you in it. LOL In my dream: Susie was the friendly one, Julie is just as good as Susie but not as friendly. Both are cute and ware the kind of shorts and top. Its been my experience Julie don't like to be touched. I went there one day rang the bell ask for Susie, Julie had to go get her up, The first room up front is a bed room. I think where the girls nap maybe?

[QUOTE=Ziggy1]Does anyone else find it a little bit of turn off when your Asian massage girl (who weighs less than you and is half your age) starts going on and on about what a great body you have and how strong you are etc. I'm sorry but it does nothing for me except remind me that I'm paying this person to be with me. Am I alone in wishing that they keep their fake compliments to themselves and not patronize me. I drink. I smoke. I have a crappy diet. I'm not healthy and don't want someone pretending that I'm someone with a killer body. This happened for the other at KM.[/QUOTE]

It's been my experience. Susie is the talked O baby baby etc, etc, etc

[QUOTE=Wb2908]I see your point, but I have worked for rich people. And whether all the staff and service people around them are thinking "sucker" or not, they all get up to take care of them as soon as they see them coming. I'm OK with her thinking I am a sucker as long as she treats me well.

And yes, I am new to the game, but I'm learning. I don't mean to drive up prices. I definitely got lost in the moment. And I might do the same next time. And since periodic reinforcement is the strongest kind, it might work out well for those of you with weaker economies right now in that she's never going to know who is going to leave a big tip. I certainly don't look like money on the outside. So in that sense, she may strive harder to be good every time. Rather than knowing it's always going to be the same paycheck regardless of how hard she tries. Then she will start daydreaming about what she needs to buy for dinner. I dunno.

I also just hate negotiation. I'd rather come in and say. Hey, I got this much. It's all yours. Do me good. Sounds like some of you guys like to play hard ball and haggle. Pretend you are getting up to leave etc. F that. I want mine hehe. I am also not hunting for extras beyond HR. If they happened to fall on me, that's cool. But I actually like the whole process. Better than regular FS providers. They are always in a rush, no teasing, no massage. I like the massage. Especially walking on my back Good stuff.

I don't mean to start shit, this is just my two cents from a relative newbie. I definitely appreciate everyone that posts. It's how I learned what to expect and what to do to get what I want. Thanks all ya'll.[/QUOTE]

Who are you trying to impress?!

The girl? Will she be happy to see you the next time you come in? Absolutely. It's not because she likes you, it's because it's the easiest .9 she'll get this month. Why should she "strive harder to be good every time" when there are guys like you who'll pay through the nose for half-assed service?

Us? We're supposed to think you're cool because you can throw money around? I've got news for you. Guys here are getting FS for what you are paying for a fully clothed, "detached" HR with limited roaming. Good job!

No one likes negotiating. It's been my experience that when there's negotiating, it's for service that's not that great. Truly great providers expect you to be fair and accept what you give them. My favorites don't even count the money until I am long gone.

If I'm forced to negotiate, then I'm going to haggle. First, because the initial offer is almost always sky high. They're trying to gauge if you're a sucker they can bleed dry. Second, I'm not willing to pay premium prices for service that is likely to be substandard. Third, if you let them take advantage of you even a little bit, they'll eventually give you a hard time over every little thing. You must always be in control of the situation. Once you cede control, you're in trouble.

You have learned nothing from reading these boards. You paid more for what you received than anybody I've ever heard of. Yet you're BRAGGING about it as if it's a good thing! Let me put it this way. It's like you paid $150 for a bottle of wine that everyone else at the same store paid $100. How cool is that?!

Does anyone have any suggestions for places that have discrete parking? When I'm in town, I'm in a company vehicle that would be uncool for my boss, wife or clients to see outside of a massage parlor. I mainly go to KM spa (because of the off street parking) but am looking for other options. I like getting a real massage and leaving happy without a bunch of negioations. I'm not looking for FS or BJs.