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Had an appointment with Tiffany today, and the bad start only got worse. She was clearly rushing, massage itself was average at best, and didn't even get my full time. Not to mention the fact that her prices keep going up, I don't think I'll be to Saigon anytime soon again unless others there are better.
[QUOTE=StaticAjm;4860138]Had an appointment with Tiffany today, and the bad start only got worse. She was clearly rushing, massage itself was average at best, and didn't even get my full time. Not to mention the fact that her prices keep going up, I don't think I'll be to Saigon anytime soon again unless others there are better.[/QUOTE]It's all in the guide book Bro. You fell victim to what the typical session is like for a newbie to the establishment. Might be better next time but will cost you plenty to find out. BTW some regular SP have left or only show for select customers. The new Haley might be more accommodating. You have to be respectful. She and I get it on just fine. Toke some time though. She can get pretty crazy when in the mood.
[QUOTE=YoungAndFun007;4858360]Going tomorrow asked for haley any advice?[/QUOTE]After reading a recent review describing a 4 hand massage with Tiff and Haley, I scheduled that. I walked in and was not as impressed with Haley's appearance. We all have our preferences, I get that. But I was expecting something hotter than what I saw. Anyway, told Tiff that I'd just like her instead of both. 30 minute massage was a little short time-wise, but quality service as expected by those who know her.
Has anyone been to any of the bikini joints with the young hot girls that typically are upsell / no extras artists?? I had success with one girl months ago, who has since quit, but generally we all know the deal at those places. Just wondering if my trip up to Waterford location would be worth it (I believe same owner as the Van Dyke La Toca location).
[QUOTE=TLong;4854532]Curious what others think of my assessment.[/QUOTE]What was the damage? Rating?
Will attempt this place today or tomorrow (Ecorse). Searched the history but couldn't find any intel on this particular place (only Westland area). Just making sure I'm not overlooking a worthy review before I TOFTT?
[QUOTE=LameelCono;4860433]It's all in the guide book Bro. You fell victim to what the typical session is like for a newbie to the establishment. Might be better next time but will cost you plenty to find out. BTW some regular SP have left or only show for select customers. The new Haley might be more accommodating. You have to be respectful. She and I get it on just fine. Toke some time though. She can get pretty crazy when in the mood.[/QUOTE]I agree with Lameel here. I've seen Tiffany a handful of times and my first time meeting her was rushed, very pricy ($50 + session fee for about 10 minutes of non-FS fun) and just not exactly what I was looking for in a session (especially when there are better options on the escort side of things for roughly the same rates). That said, she definitely opens up more when you become a regular of hers. Last time I saw her prior to COVID, she gave me FS for $$ and it felt like it lasted a lot longer and didn't feel rushed. I guess you just have to catch her either on the right day or just establish a rapport with her that you're going to be a consistently repeat client. Although if you don't want to put the work in to maximize your mileage, I keep hearing rumors that this Haley girl might be just as good. Might be worth checking out? Anyone seen her yet BTW?
[QUOTE=Jjjapd;4859924]Started with soft touch massage- tasing me all along. Flipped over asked what I wanted. Ended up 69 BBBJCIM.[/QUOTE]Who is she? Contact?
I'm sure that I'm starting to sound like a broken record here, but has anyone heard anything about Yuki? Is she back in Michigan? I didn't get the chance to see her prior to COVID and I'm dying to get an appointment with her. I heard she is a lot of fun. PM's are always fine if you feel more comfortable.
[QUOTE=NockUowt;4860776]Has anyone been to any of the bikini joints with the young hot girls that typically are upsell / no extras artists?? I had success with one girl months ago, who has since quit, but generally we all know the deal at those places. Just wondering if my trip up to Waterford location would be worth it (I believe same owner as the Van Dyke La Toca location).[/QUOTE]I listed my experience awhile ago somewhere on the forum about one place in Waterford I visited about a year or so ago. I paid the house fee, which was over a $100 and more due to the options on the menu of bikini top with shorts, bikini top and bottom and topless with bikini bottom but no full nude. I got a beautiful blonde after choosing the bikini top and bottom (I think). It didn't matter much cause we negotiated a price between us in a hush hush manner for reverse and more, which went unspecified. Thus, while she's on the table and accepting my massage, I went to the main area using hands, then tongue where she reached the O twice, or at least faked it well, then I went for the kill and inserted. Not sure she was expecting it but she didn't complain. Session ended and I tried to get her to go it alone when I wanted to see her again, since she said she was a student at Oakland and thought she could use the money. She indicated semester was beginning soon and that was the last I seen / heard from her as she never responded and she left the spa, which she said she was planning to do anyway to finish school. Therefore, that was my first experience with that type of massage place and I haven't tried another again.
If I had to give advice, I would suggest forgoing the expensive menu options which goes to the house and choose the cheapest. The real negotiations are with the gal. If she's wearing full clothes, who cares. Negotiate with her to get them off. She'll get more of the money instead of the house.
[QUOTE=QuietGentleman;4860902]Will attempt this place today or tomorrow (Ecorse). Searched the history but couldn't find any intel on this particular place (only Westland area). Just making sure I'm not overlooking a worthy review before I TOFTT?[/QUOTE]Been here a few times. Its a run of the mill Korean table shower joint. You get undressed, bathed, led to your room, and the rest you can probably figure out. My girl always had fake D cups and a smile on her face as she gave me FS or HE. $. 80 ish overall.
[QUOTE=TeeTime69;4859329]Pics on Instagram if you want them. Her recent Texas vacation and lack of mask put me off. Can't take a chance.[/QUOTE]I was just wondering if she did anything extra or if she's 100 percent straight or whatever.
[QUOTE=NockUowt;4860776]Has anyone been to any of the bikini joints with the young hot girls that typically are upsell / no extras artists?? I had success with one girl months ago, who has since quit, but generally we all know the deal at those places. Just wondering if my trip up to Waterford location would be worth it (I believe same owner as the Van Dyke La Toca location).[/QUOTE]Hey do you have the phone # or link for the Waterford location? Thanks.
[QUOTE=LostInDetroit;4861051]I'm sure that I'm starting to sound like a broken record here, but has anyone heard anything about Yuki? Is she back in Michigan? I didn't get the chance to see her prior to COVID and I'm dying to get an appointment with her. I heard she is a lot of fun. PM's are always fine if you feel more comfortable.[/QUOTE]Back in January, a couple of friends and I took her to the airport. I have one of her suitcases in my basement. She is working in Grand Prairie, Alberta. Nobody can legally cross the border at this time. She will let me know when she needs to get picked up in Detroit. I will definitely announce her return.
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[QUOTE=Guwman;4861669]Back in January, a couple of friends and I took her to the airport. I have one of her suitcases in my basement. She is working in Grand Prairie, Alberta. Nobody can legally cross the border at this time. She will let me know when she needs to get picked up in Detroit. I will definitely announce her return.[/QUOTE]I would be remiss if I didn't update the information in this post. The US-Canada border remains closed to non-essential traffic. The border continues to be open to commercial traffic that keeps the country's economy alive. Most importantly, the border is open to the hundreds of Canadian health care workers that are first-line individuals at hospitals in the core Metro area. Many of these heroes are housed in Downtown Windsor hotels for the sake of their family's health and well-being. As of June 08 2020 cross-border families can now reunite under new exemption. Refer to US Immigration and Border Patrol for details. You can PM me on further information concerning Yuki, aka Celine.
[QUOTE=DeGhost;4861318]I was just wondering if she did anything extra or if she's 100 percent straight or whatever.[/QUOTE]No extras.
[QUOTE=Concupiscent69;4861224]I listed my experience awhile ago somewhere on the forum about one place in Waterford I visited about a year or so ago. I paid the house fee, which was over a $100 and more due to the options on the menu of bikini top with shorts, bikini top and bottom and topless with bikini bottom but no full nude. I got a beautiful blonde after choosing the bikini top and bottom (I think). It didn't matter much cause we negotiated a price between us in a hush hush manner for reverse and more, which went unspecified. Thus, while she's on the table and accepting my massage, I went to the main area using hands, then tongue where she reached the O twice, or at least faked it well, then I went for the kill and inserted. Not sure she was expecting it but she didn't complain. Session ended and I tried to get her to go it alone when I wanted to see her again, since she said she was a student at Oakland and thought she could use the money. She indicated semester was beginning soon and that was the last I seen / heard from her as she never responded and she left the spa, which she said she was planning to do anyway to finish school. Therefore, that was my first experience with that type of massage place and I haven't tried another again.
If I had to give advice, I would suggest forgoing the expensive menu options which goes to the house and choose the cheapest. The real negotiations are with the gal. If she's wearing full clothes, who cares. Negotiate with her to get them off. She'll get more of the money instead of the house.[/QUOTE]No rubber?
Somewhere in the North East. Probably Waterford. The second location is Kelly Massage, I had my fill there first. It was a tease place. The third location opened was La Toca. 18 months to two years ago I found a decent girl at Le Toca. Things I've read on this thread were not impressive.
[QUOTE=NockUowt;4860776]Has anyone been to any of the bikini joints with the young hot girls that typically are upsell / no extras artists?? I had success with one girl months ago, who has since quit, but generally we all know the deal at those places. Just wondering if my trip up to Waterford location would be worth it (I believe same owner as the Van Dyke La Toca location).[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=LameelCono;4862550]I would be remiss if I didn't update the information in this post. The US-Canada border remains closed to non-essential traffic. The border continues to be open to commercial traffic that keeps the country's economy alive. Most importantly, the border is open to the hundreds of Canadian health care workers that are first-line individuals at hospitals in the core Metro area. Many of these heroes are housed in Downtown Windsor hotels for the sake of their family's health and well-being. As of June 08 2020 cross-border families can now reunite under new exemption. Refer to US Immigration and Border Patrol for details. You can PM me on further information concerning Yuki, aka Celine.[/QUOTE]Thanks gents for the update. Good to hear that she's doing well up north. Hopefully she will return soon so I can finally get the chance to meet her. I'm sure there's also a few mongers here that can't wait to see her again as well. .
[QUOTE=TheNewWorld;4864125]Somewhere in the North East. Probably Waterford. The second location is Kelly Massage, I had my fill there first. It was a tease place. The third location opened was La Toca. 18 months to two years ago I found a decent girl at Le Toca. Things I've read on this thread were not impressive.[/QUOTE]Smoking hot girl, Jess, In the Waterford place. Makes it clear there are no extras though. Just some petting.
Maybe in the future, but prices are high.
[QUOTE=TheNewWorld;4864125]Somewhere in the North East. Probably Waterford. The second location is Kelly Massage, I had my fill there first. It was a tease place. The third location opened was La Toca. 18 months to two years ago I found a decent girl at Le Toca. Things I've read on this thread were not impressive.[/QUOTE]I only went to the one on Ford Rd. 2 times. First was amazing with full nude, reverse massage, BBBJ, SCI, everything but FS. Second was with a different girl who was all up sell and no fun side. The one up in Waterford was even less fun.
Unless they are loosening up due to current economy, it's not worth the hassle.
Please let me know if things have changed. They hire very hot talent.
Waterford then Kelly and the third place was La Toca on Vandyke. You are speaking of a fourth place on Ford road. What is the name of this place? These are local girls in bikinis on Ford Road? I'm East side.
[QUOTE=IWonderWhy;4865194]I only went to the one on Ford Rd. 2 times. First was amazing with full nude, reverse massage, BBBJ, SCI, everything but FS. Second was with a different girl who was all up sell and no fun side. The one up in Waterford was even less fun.
Unless they are loosening up due to current economy, it's not worth the hassle.
Please let me know if things have changed. They hire very hot talent.[/QUOTE]
I haven't hit any of the AMPs since re-opening. Are you all seeing any infection control changes in place since they have opened back up? Room cleaning improvements, use of wipes, whatever.
Anybody have a recommendation for a provider that does Manscaping and massage? Prefer Eastside, but willing to drive.
[QUOTE=TheNewWorld;4865533]Waterford then Kelly and the third place was La Toca on Vandyke. You are speaking of a fourth place on Ford road. What is the name of this place? These are local girls in bikinis on Ford Road? I'm East side.[/QUOTE]Has anyone got anything more than a standard rub down from Waterford lately? PM if its a secret.
[QUOTE=OnlyVrx;4857980]Anyone have experience with Angelina? After texting yesterday she told me she offers a very sensual massage for $$/ hr with a standard finish (no more). This is just my opinion, but that's fairly high for the service provided. Any seniors have intel to share about her services that may warrant the cost. PM ok, much appreciated!
[URL]https://adultsearch.com/michigan/detroit/body-rubs/1690206[/URL][/QUOTE]I saw her a couple times awhile back. $150 for the hour. She was in a hotel in Livonia near 6 mile and 275. Massage was on a hotel bed. Massage skills were OK. Minimal teasing. After the flip, she gets completely naked, rubs you some more then positions herself in 69 style to finish you off with a handshake. I did do DATY.
2nd time I went I was hoping to do more but it didn't seem like there was more to be offered. She was nice and clean and very fit.
Stay safe out there.
I am follower of this group for past 2 years and had good advises. Today I went for Massage on a massage parlor on Grandriver and Haggerty. Jenny invited me (She is in her high 30's and looks good and chubby) and I opted for hr and after starting massage I asked for Massage on bum by showing in actions for te*sing. She started and did for around 10 min and it was good. But what comes after the flip is unbelievable and the best t*asing I have ever experienced. Also, made me happy twice in 10 minutes. Damage was 1. 2 (. 7+. 5). Even massage is also good.
One more parlor on Grandriver beside wasabi restaurant which they moved moved recently and they used to be on Grandriver and haggerty. Before corona times, there used be Angel and one more old lady (I think tina or dana), that old lady used to give me the best massages (T*asing). I waiting for her to return I forgot her name.
I was just flaked on by molly (I'd seen her years and years ago it was good) so went to a shiatsu parlor I been to few times in last cpl years. They used to just have sheets now they have that tissue paper table cover like dr office. Take temp when walk in and make you rub your own hands down hand sanitizer. Who know what they do when I left.
It had been atleast a year. Girl was young we both had masks on but she looked good. Seen better at actual AMP but not many (this was AMP but At aoartment one
Massage only seen one or 2 girls not better looking but they showed off what they had). Massage was a 5/10. But. I dreamed she went for ending to start the visit and finish it. Which made me worry of a rush job but lasted full hour. . Being a long time since I been there tipped a little heavy and didn't go for utc but fully explored over. She never discussed tip amount even when starting round 2 and seemed to enjotly the exploring but I think she tries to make that spevual since massage is so So-So. Ill go back soon. Normally would have tipped 40 with how so so it was. Plan to go back soon. I think she might be up for more if I can see her again.
[QUOTE=Lamarr;4866051]I haven't hit any of the AMPs since re-opening. Are you all seeing any infection control changes in place since they have opened back up? Room cleaning improvements, use of wipes, whatever.[/QUOTE]
Anyone remember the masseuse that worked out of the back of HQ for men in Clinton township a few years ago? She got pregnant and disappeared sadly, but said she worked out in Waterford (?) maybe. Hoping I can find her again.
[QUOTE=DirtyOne313;4866986]Has anyone got anything more than a standard rub down from Waterford lately? PM if its a secret.[/QUOTE]Curious to know about this myself. Also, what are the other 2 joints in the area? I've heard La Toca thrown around a few times but don't know anything about the third. PM's are always open. Stay safe out there gents.
Where was this? What was the providers name?
[QUOTE=ToneyExp;4867067]I was just flaked on by molly (I'd seen her years and years ago it was good) so went to a shiatsu parlor I been to few times in last cpl years. They used to just have sheets now they have that tissue paper table cover like dr office. Take temp when walk in and make you rub your own hands down hand sanitizer. Who know what they do when I left.
It had been atleast a year. Girl was young we both had masks on but she looked good. Seen better at actual AMP but not many (this was AMP but At aoartment one
Massage only seen one or 2 girls not better looking but they showed off what they had). Massage was a 5/10. But. I dreamed she went for ending to start the visit and finish it. Which made me worry of a rush job but lasted full hour. . Being a long time since I been there tipped a little heavy and didn't go for utc but fully explored over. She never discussed tip amount even when starting round 2 and seemed to enjotly the exploring but I think she tries to make that spevual since massage is so So-So. Ill go back soon. Normally would have tipped 40 with how so so it was. Plan to go back soon. I think she might be up for more if I can see her again.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Hockey0999;4859713]That is too bad. Sometimes I am always down for a legit massage. Do you have her contact info? You can PM if you want.
Thanks in advance![/QUOTE]Where is she located? Contact info? Thanks!
[QUOTE=DirtyOne313;4866986]Has anyone got anything more than a standard rub down from Waterford lately? PM if its a secret.[/QUOTE]Specifically with Jess.
[QUOTE=Nemesis18;4782888]Doesn't get naked. No roaming. And massage is also not that great. No HE or extras.[/QUOTE]Abbey- Roseville: Total waste of time. I searched for reviews and didn't try different spellings for her name but afterward I did because she posts "sensual" body rubs in the past. Also claims xxx videos for sale back in January. She basically rubs oil on you, tells you she recently got busted so doesn't do anything, no reverse, no undressing, was dressed in shorts and a T-shirt. She is very cute and has a nice body. But it was a total waste of time. $$ for hour.
Karla (Rochester): Gave a 7/10 massage, very good looking, wore matching yoga pants and athletic bra, but I got nowhere. I'd consider trying Karla again as she may have been feeling me out. But I'll dig deeper for reviews before checking her out. $1. 2.
I see she's been posting a lot on CL. Has anyone seen her yet? PM is fine as well. Thanks!
[QUOTE=Mikeh4808;4867577]Abbey- Roseville: Total waste of time. I searched for reviews and didn't try different spellings for her name but afterward I did because she posts "sensual" body rubs in the past. Also claims xxx videos for sale back in January. She basically rubs oil on you, tells you she recently got busted so doesn't do anything, no reverse, no undressing, was dressed in shorts and a T-shirt. She is very cute and has a nice body. But it was a total waste of time. $$ for hour.
Karla (Rochester): Gave a 7/10 massage, very good looking, wore matching yoga pants and athletic bra, but I got nowhere. I'd consider trying Karla again as she may have been feeling me out. But I'll dig deeper for reviews before checking her out. $1. 2.[/QUOTE]Hey, do you have a link for Karla or #?
Pm welcomed thanks.
[QUOTE=Wally2822;4868334]I see she's been posting a lot on CL. Has anyone seen her yet? PM is fine as well. Thanks![/QUOTE]Legit massage, no extra's!
[QUOTE=Wally2822;4868334]I see she's been posting a lot on CL. Has anyone seen her yet? PM is fine as well. Thanks![/QUOTE]I've seen her. She is totally hot and young. She is located near telegraph and M59 areai thinks Orchard lake rd. Her incall is an office building. Small table in an office space. Not relaxing as much as I would have liked. Her rate is somewhere near 140 an hr. So so massage with no happy ending! She is into her oils. Her website will tell you more about her business. Her communication skills needs work. I doubt there is more to be had. She massaged my back and some legs and no flip. Talked the whole time throughout massage. Nice gal but I'll wait for more reviews before I'll pull the trigger again!
[QUOTE=TheNewWorld;4865533]Waterford then Kelly and the third place was La Toca on Vandyke. You are speaking of a fourth place on Ford road. What is the name of this place? These are local girls in bikinis on Ford Road? I'm East side.[/QUOTE]Garden City / Dearborn Heights border. I went 1 x it was great. Then tried 2 x more and it was expensive and very unhappy. For a brief moment one of the bikini girls went and worked over at Henrys north. Honestly way more for way less. This was probably over a year ago now.