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[QUOTE=Nyhornet;2941485]You guys did not see the same lady (Stephanie) that I saw then. Not an ounce of fat on the lady I saw. You may have been passed off to Lucy, the Thai sharing the place or someone else. Stephanie did tell me her sister was coming to visit. The lady I saw was just like the photos.[/QUOTE]It definitely wasn't Lucy (I've already reviewed her in my past couple of posts) it was either Stephanie or the other lady Tiffany? Hard to tell honestly since I feel they swap or rotate names based on whatever is most convenient at the time. I'm not questioning your review or anyone elses, but YMMV really goes a long way with these ladies in particular. My biggest take away from these providers is the upsell is big and they are unenthusiastic. I actually tried to see one today before just going to River Spa and Stephanie even though she picked up on Tiffany's number asked for 250 for the full hour (hard pass) however I did ask for greek. Either way I'm sure my experience as well as Tre's is about what any mongerer can expect for the most part when going to see these ladies.

[QUOTE=Nyhornet;2941485]You guys did not see the same lady (Stephanie) that I saw then. Not an ounce of fat on the lady I saw. You may have been passed off to Lucy, the Thai sharing the place or someone else. Stephanie did tell me her sister was coming to visit. The lady I saw was just like the photos.

Just saw her ad again, and reminded me about the tattoos on her arm. Same as photo![/QUOTE]Agreed. Saw her last night and she was definitely the one in the pictures. She looks taller in the pics, and prettier, but she's still attractive. I think her teeth might be messed up some? Smelled like she smoked, or something like that.

Extremely skinny, little to no fat, bolt ons, and that arm tat.

Bossanova and Nyhornet are right (and a third, me, agrees).

She's spunky, has a strange sense of humor, and is sensual and accomodating. $. 2 for 60 $. 8 for 90, massage only. $$. 5 for hour for FS. Everything is covered, no GFE. I thought she was extremely tight and despite having blown my load multiple times during the day, it was hard not to end my time too quickly if you know what I mean.

She's korean, and we talked a lot afterward, cuddling. I speak Korean, so she told me a lot about herself.

Anyway, not sure why you guys got the wrong girl, but bait and switch is the only explanation I can think of. She did say she was out of town for a while and just got back, so maybe that's what happened?

I'm also interested to hear about her sister. She didn't mention that. Any more details?

[QUOTE=Bossanova86;2941508]It definitely wasn't Lucy (I've already reviewed her in my past couple of posts) it was either Stephanie or the other lady Tiffany? Hard to tell honestly since I feel they swap or rotate names based on whatever is most convenient at the time. I'm not questioning your review or anyone elses, but YMMV really goes a long way with these ladies in particular. My biggest take away from these providers is the upsell is big and they are unenthusiastic. I actually tried to see one today before just going to River Spa and Stephanie even though she picked up on Tiffany's number asked for 250 for the full hour (hard pass) however I did ask for greek. Either way I'm sure my experience as well as Tre's is about what any mongerer can expect for the most part when going to see these ladies.[/QUOTE]Same person, different name. She said she uses a different stage name depending on service (and wants to be called that during the session) because it helps her set the tone / be the way she wants to be when providing service.

I just want to qualify and enhance the conversation as it seems to have gone a little sideways from my original report. I saw Stephanie and while she was a close resemblance of the pics in the post; I am not sure they are hers but nevertheless it was her I saw. Not someone 20 lbs heavier and I stand by my original report of her.

Stephanie.

Ok so the pics are not her but she certainly did not look mid 40's as one nube stated. She is very hot and is tiny with nice tits. The massage was probably the worst I have ever had but the only redeeming value was she was very rough and I kind of needed knots worked out. Lots of teasing and finally the flip and the HE which was excellent. She did not try to upsell until after we were done so the next time I will just go to pound her. She is a funny girl and very sexual. She says she is bi and jokes a lot about sex so I think she opened up to me just a little. I am looking forward to the next time. 703 XXX1956 (I also have another number for her).

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[QUOTE=Trewaller;2941850]I just want to qualify and enhance the conversation as it seems to have gone a little sideways from my original report. I saw Stephanie and while she was a close resemblance of the pics in the post; I am not sure they are hers but nevertheless it was her I saw. Not someone 20 lbs heavier and I stand by my original report of her.[/QUOTE]Based on your original description (especially of her personality! I think we saw the same person. I think it's her, but face wise I wasn't sure at first. I think the pics have a lot of airbrushing. Not trying to say you were lying or anything!

[QUOTE=Trewaller;2941850]I just want to qualify and enhance the conversation as it seems to have gone a little sideways from my original report. I saw Stephanie and while she was a close resemblance of the pics in the post; I am not sure they are hers but nevertheless it was her I saw. Not someone 20 lbs heavier and I stand by my original report of her.

Stephanie.

Ok so the pics are not her but she certainly did not look mid 40's as one nube stated. She is very hot and is tiny with nice tits. The massage was probably the worst I have ever had but the only redeeming value was she was very rough and I kind of needed knots worked out. Lots of teasing and finally the flip and the HE which was excellent. She did not try to upsell until after we were done so the next time I will just go to pound her. She is a funny girl and very sexual. She says she is bi and jokes a lot about sex so I think she opened up to me just a little. I am looking forward to the next time. 703 XXX1956 (I also have another number for her).

[URL]http://nova.backpage.com/BodyRubs/ma...hanie/22986779[/URL][/QUOTE]I have seen all the CVille girls and know some of them pretty well.

Lucy. Thai. Was visiting for a few months and then headed back west, unless she stuck around for a week or two but she is out of here. 40's. Cute. Good massage. Standard HE but if you're nice and have the right formula more is to be had.

Stefanie / Tiffany. Definitely NOT, I repeat NOT the girl in the pictures. The pictures are of an asian Pornstar based here in Vegas with a sleeve tattoo just like Stefanies, but if you want to look that closely at her tattoo and not her titties then, you should be working for the CIA instead of P.u.s.s.y. I have been with both the Pornstar and Stefanie. And they don't look nothing alike in person. But stefanie is cute and I like her alot. She is approximately 40, very tanned, thin, nice bolt on tits, and she dresses in a very nice sheer dress to welcome you. Just like lucy, be nice and prepared for the donation and you won't leave unahppy. By the way when I knew them they shared a place and I frequented them both. Stefanie may be quiet at first but she will warm up to you if you're not a total tool.

The best straight up massage in CVille is Nalee. She's vacationing in Thailand right now. I don't know if this year will be the year that she decides to not comeback. I hope not, because when I come to DC I love knowing she is just an hour away in the suburbs.

I have not done Nadia yet. I hear that Extras are hard to be had.

I did Christine back before her demeanor and attitude changed. Have not seen her in the area lately.

I go all the way back before Magic and Naan when you could get f / s in Nova at just about anywhere.

I hope this clarifies things. I would see Stefanie at least once if I were you and I would be nice and good things should happen for you.

Made a recent trip to Centreville and met up with Stacy, a cute MILF-why asian in her early 40's staying at a mid-level hotel. She's attractive but not quite spinner material, with a little chub on the sides but nothing worth complaining about. Fairly standard 3-call / text system, although you have to go through a handler (the mama-san) to get the room number, which was annoying because a communication breakdown between Stacy and her handler left me spinning my wheels for a good 40 minutes. Stacy made up for it when I got to the room with a surprisingly good massage (usually, hotel girls merely go through the motions) that was among the more vigorous I've had. A nice ST and flip led to covered mish and a combination BBBJ / HE / DATY for the finish. She even supplied mouthwash and a microwave-heated towel after, which were nice touches and show she's worked at AMPs before. Total damage for 60 (which I was shorted on by about 10 minutes) was $. 6. Despite some of the problems, I would return, her BBBJ skills and the price more than make up for them.

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Ok; I just had to add some clarity to the Amber / Shina / willow posts that I previously read. The pics are surely not her as she is probably at least 40 and never took her lingerie top off and I am not sure exactly why but there were many bruises on both legs. Her body is not nearly as nice as the girl in her post pics. Really big tits if that is your thing. She gave a fairly decent massage and chatted the entire time even though it wasn't really distracting. On the flip she went right to a BBBJ which wasn't the best I have ever had nor the worst- on a 1-10 scale I would give it about a 6. Covered up and put her in doggie and pounded it out. I had to resort to whatever she was using for the massage as she was fairly dry and had no lube (and I had to bring a cover) - Shina is her sister who apparently also posts in BP and willow is the gal in Fairfax who posts every single day and her pics are scary. These are the girls with the infamous Christmas tree in the background of their posting pics. She is doing this in a notel (motor lodge) down in falls church and I swear there could not have been 3 other people staying there. Damage for the hour was $ . 5 which is not all that bad considering you get a decent massage / BBBJ and FS but I won't go back -ever. She seems rather nice but there are many many other options out there to try out. 571XXX8888.

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Ok, Why do Black providers with a weeve think they can be mistaken for asian? Amber is not the girl in the post but maybe a close representation body build wise and skin color. Other than that, she is a black provider. Now I have no problem with that but I am so tired of the misrepresentation. Especially when I have my appetite for asian! Anyway, made the call, easy setup, get to the room and its not the girl in the pics. Nevertheless, I had suffered through i95's weekend traffic so I was ready for some relief. She is very business like. I opted for $. 4 for the half. I normally go for the SS option when it is my first time. And I should have stuck with my rule! She opened he door in her bra and panties, finished her can of beer and went into the bathroom with the donation. Came out and we started with a CBJ and she never removed her bra. Moved to K9 and I finished there. I was there for 15 minutes at best!

I will not repeat! Save your money!

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[QUOTE=Marlo;2942830]Ok, Why do Black providers with a weeve think they can be mistaken for asian?[/QUOTE]It's to get you there and let the little head do the thinking. Besides using terms like exotic, mixed, puerto rican, cuban, brazilian, black girls will use white names like amber to try and get more customers that wouldn't go see a Shaniqua.

[QUOTE=RoaminRoman;2873499]Here's one stratagem that a monger can use when visiting a provider's hotel: [U]Go[/U] to the front desk. Tell the person there that you have a friend who's coming to town soon and that you are scouting out a hotel for him. Ask the person at the desk if you can see one of the rooms, just to get an idea of what one looks like. More than likely, they will have an empty room and will give you a key that will operate for 30 minutes or so. Go see the room. Then, return to the front desk, turn in the room key (card), and make like you're going to exit. But, before you do, ask if they have a restroom you can use. Chances are, it's out of sight of the front desk. Once out of sight, you can probably find the stairs close by. Just take those and go see your provider.

Now, here's important part of all this: Sometimes (as happened at the Days Inn in Manassas a few months ago), the police will stop mongers who are departing a hotel late at night, and they will ask if he's staying at the hotel.

If you say "[I]No[/I]", they then ask what business you had at the hotel. If you tell them, "[I]I was seeing a friend[/I], " they usually ask the name of your friend. If you can't give the full name, they have probable cause to detain you.

If you say "[I]Yes[/I], " they can verify with the front desk whether you're staying there. Lying to a police officer gives them probable cause to detain you.

At the very least, either a "[I]Yes[/I]" or a "[I]No[/I]" answer can get you in some unpleasant hot water, even if they eventually let you go.

Better to tell them, honestly, that you were checking the hotel as a possible place for a friend who's coming into town. The fact that you went to the front desk and asked to see a room legitimizes this, and the front desk can attest to your presence there for that purpose, if asked. If the police say that whatever hour you're there is an odd time to be checking on hotel rooms, you can say that you had some available time right then. (Don't say something like "[I]I work shift[/I]", unless you do, because they can ask where you work.).

Better still, you can always ask LEO why he has stopped you and if you are being detained or are free to go. You don't have to answer their questions. If they have nothing to detain you on, they'll let you go (even if they intimate that they can haul you in for some cause). You just have to remember to keep cool and don't allow them to intimidate you or say anything that you don't need to say.[/QUOTE]Been gone a long time and thought I'd catch up on the best attractions in NOVA. So surfed thru page after page, doing my usual investigating as I went along (BTW. Thanks to you all, see members still looking out for each other here which is a good sign!) You Senior Members have ALL the juice (No pun intended!) LOL.

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There was a million different ways you could have written this so it wouldn't have been so douchey.[/blue]

Since I'm picking up here again, hope I can still hit some Seniors up via PM for info. Also, how the hell am I going to pass the ol 411 with outdated visits I wonder?

Hell, the last two I saw (together may I add) were the absolute best I've ever had and I can't find squat on them here anymore! Oh well, back to the books gents!

Thanks again.

[QUOTE=Trewaller;2942612]Ok; I just had to add some clarity to the Amber / Shina / willow posts that I previously read. The pics are surely not her as she is probably at least 40 and never took her lingerie top off and I am not sure exactly why but there were many bruises on both legs. Her body is not nearly as nice as the girl in her post pics. Really big tits if that is your thing. She gave a fairly decent massage and chatted the entire time even though it wasn't really distracting. On the flip she went right to a BBBJ which wasn't the best I have ever had nor the worst- on a 1-10 scale I would give it about a 6. Covered up and put her in doggie and pounded it out. I had to resort to whatever she was using for the massage as she was fairly dry and had no lube (and I had to bring a cover) - Shina is her sister who apparently also posts in BP and willow is the gal in Fairfax who posts every single day and her pics are scary. These are the girls with the infamous Christmas tree in the background of their posting pics. She is doing this in a notel (motor lodge) down in falls church and I swear there could not have been 3 other people staying there. Damage for the hour was $ . 5 which is not all that bad considering you get a decent massage / BBBJ and FS but I won't go back -ever. She seems rather nice but there are many many other options out there to try out. 571XXX8888.

[URL]http://nova.backpage.com/BodyRubs/sunday-incall-special-today-100-authentic-photos/12988077[/URL][/QUOTE]I've been scouting them for a while, and almost met Amber, but she didn't answer the phone while I was in her area, so I left. I asked about her a few months back, and got a reply from someone who'd seen her "sister" or the other girl, and advised against visiting that one.

I was still planning to hit up Amber and get the ground truth on the Christmas trio (call them the tree-o). With your report, I think we have ground truth.

[QUOTE=Grafenberg;2943080]It's to get you there and let the little head do the thinking. Besides using terms like exotic, mixed, puerto rican, cuban, brazilian, black girls will use white names like amber to try and get more customers that wouldn't go see a Shaniqua.[/QUOTE]Oh I fully understand WHY!

My comment was rhetorical.

[QUOTE=GasBomber;2941519]Agreed. Saw her last night and she was definitely the one in the pictures. She looks taller in the pics, and prettier, but she's still attractive. I think her teeth might be messed up some? Smelled like she smoked, or something like that.

Extremely skinny, little to no fat, bolt ons, and that arm tat.

Bossanova and Nyhornet are right (and a third, me, agrees).

She's spunky, has a strange sense of humor, and is sensual and accomodating. $. 2 for 60 $. 8 for 90, massage only. $$. 5 for hour for FS. Everything is covered, no GFE. I thought she was extremely tight and despite having blown my load multiple times during the day, it was hard not to end my time too quickly if you know what I mean.

She's korean, and we talked a lot afterward, cuddling. I speak Korean, so she told me a lot about herself.

Anyway, not sure why you guys got the wrong girl, but bait and switch is the only explanation I can think of. She did say she was out of town for a while and just got back, so maybe that's what happened?

I'm also interested to hear about her sister. She didn't mention that. Any more details?[/QUOTE]Regarding the other comment about Tiffany. Same girl, but advertises in a different part of BP with different services. I made my appt with Stephanie, but asked for Tiffany services. She agreed to the $220 I had with me. I enjoyed myself. Had same problem lasting longer due to her sensuality and tightness. There was a recent ad, by a Soonje in Centerville. I suspected it may have been her sister, but didn't attempt to confirm. Lucy was her roomie when I saw Stephanie, but have a feeling she has moved on.

Easy to find her contact info with a G-search.

Have seen her before, and this visit I opted just for her advertised 1-hour Swedish massage.

EXTERIOR.

- Accessibility: Her studio is located near I66 and I 495 intersections.

- Parking: There are tower apartments on the east and west sides of the property separated by a small retail store and restaurant / office complex. Free parking is available in the parking lot adjacent to her tower.

- Entrance: She will direct you to use the main entrance or the side-patio entrance depending on circumstances.

INTERIOR.

- Cleanliness: Her studio / apartment had recently been damaged by water leak (elsewhere). Repairs and drying in progress. Usually her studio and apartment are spotless clean. This damage (and the musty smell) not her fault. The massage studio was clean (spotless) with a nice scent of mild flowers or scented candle.

- Bathroom / Shower: The bathroom was clean, and the shower unattended. Many examples of clean, fresh linen.

- Air Temperature in studio: The air temp was adjusted properly.

- Final Amenities: At the end of the session, Tara offers water (or tea) and additional conversation. I have never felt rushed to leave.

SERVICE.

- Time: I received a full hour at the advertised BP rate. I provided an additional tip (not requested by her) because she is so very nice. Total damage was the same as I would have spent at the very good AMPs, but the quality of the massage experience was much better than even the my best AMP experiences.

- Therapist: Tara is late 20-ish, lovely Thai therapist. Curvy. Her face is a work of fine art and her eyes and happy spirit light up the room when she laughs.

- Session: The therapeutic part of the massage was thorough and complete – she has great massage skills. The remainder of the time was greatly enjoyed by me and supported by her enthusiastic Russian dialog.

OVERALL: This session was marvelous. I will repeat.

FBAS: 9 /7. 5 / 10/9.

Vitals: About 5'-4", 125 lbs. , well-proportioned with exceptional shape, medium dark hair soft skin, very clean and wonderful smelling.

Thank you to RR for the use of his reporting format.

NoVA Ranger.