"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

[QUOTE=TomDickNHarry;4546302]I've seen many holiday seasons on SA, and this is not normal. A huge batch here again this morning, and yes the Fin-Dom and "luxury lifestyle" dominates. Going to check reddit when I have a chance, some BS article was published or video or something on a website or social media site frequented by young people.[/QUOTE]I've had several of the 18-19 yo babies say that they heard about SA on an app called TikTok which is a very popular app with the teens these days. I took my daughters phone to look through her TikTok and it didn't take long at all to see girls posting their Venmo or cashapp with the offer of selling feet pics or private videos to sugar daddy's. Most of these posts contain #seeking in them so I suspect this may be related to the influx.

[QUOTE=TomDickNHarry;4546302]I've seen many holiday seasons on SA, and this is not normal. A huge batch here again this morning, and yes the Fin-Dom and "luxury lifestyle" dominates. Going to check reddit when I have a chance, some BS article was published or video or something on a website or social media site frequented by young people.[/QUOTE]I don't use this so can't see specifically but according to this post the Tiktoc app has a bunch of stuff on findom and so that's where it's coming from.

[URL]https://www.reddit.com/r/sugarlifestyleforum/comments/e1bh4o/findom/[/URL]

[QUOTE=TomDickNHarry;4546322]I don't use this so can't see specifically but according to this post the Tiktoc app has a bunch of stuff on findom and so that's where it's coming from.

[URL]https://www.reddit.com/r/sugarlifestyleforum/comments/e1bh4o/findom/[/URL][/QUOTE]Unfortunately for sa, the user base for TikTok seems to be young teens. Just scrolling through my daughters tiktok it looked like most of the girls were 13-15.

[QUOTE=ItsAHobby45;4546374]Unfortunately for sa, the user base for TikTok seems to be young teens. Just scrolling through my daughters tiktok it looked like most of the girls were 13-15.[/QUOTE]So all these profiles that say 18, they may be under, thinking some guy will just send them money online. What a waste of everyone's time.

I have been using Google Voice for years, because I have a Google / Gmail account.

But it is getting to very annoying lately because when you send a lots of text messages, it shut you down for a day or so and you can't send any more messages.

What texting apps do you guys use? That texts, makes calls, send and receive pics and videos?

[QUOTE=TopGun9;4546863]I have been using Google Voice for years, because I have a Google / Gmail account.

But it is getting to very annoying lately because when you send a lots of text messages, it shut you down for a day or so and you can't send any more messages.

What texting apps do you guys use? That texts, makes calls, send and receive pics and videos?[/QUOTE]When I was noob I used my Google voice number that I've had for years. Then I quickly realized that when you search it on TruePeopleSearch it pulled up all my info. So I stopped using that number real quick and I now use TextFree. It does everything you mentioned for free other than calls. You get 10 mind free but after that you have to buy more minutes. But I never ever call these hoe's anyway. Text only so this app fits all my needs.

[QUOTE=TopGun9;4546863]I have been using Google Voice for years, because I have a Google / Gmail account.

But it is getting to very annoying lately because when you send a lots of text messages, it shut you down for a day or so and you can't send any more messages.

What texting apps do you guys use? That texts, makes calls, send and receive pics and videos?[/QUOTE]Many of the SBs use KiK or WhatsApp.

Personally, I use a burner phone for all texts and calls. You can get one for $25/ month at WalMart by using their plan. Replace the SIM card every few months to avoid complications.

No way I would let Google have access to my sugar activities.

She agreed yesterday to meet me in the FC (nice hotel) and she showed up on time. She looked better than her pictures on seeking and was a really nice girl. We talked for a bit and had great conversation. We discussed a longer term arrangement and things we'd like to do outside of the FC. We then discussed both of our sexual preferences. Mine are pretty simple. She said she enjoyed a little role playing (her as a really young girl and me as an older mature man) and she also enjoys rape play with a safe word and that the word no means yes to her. I was a bit confused as she is 19 and I'm in my late 30's but I think she meant she likes to role play as a younger (underage) girl. Regardless I told her we'd explore those things at later meetings and I'd be fine with just basic sex today. She seemed fine and asked if I was ready to have sex with her. We started with some great kissing and she gave me a great BBBJ. She seemed really into the whole thing. Very eager to please me. I rolled her over on her back and put on protection and went in mish, flipped her over for a bit and then back to mish. The whole time she was enthusiastic and seemingly enjoying everything. We go on for a few more minutes and I see a tear in her eye. I stop and ask what's wrong. She tried to play it off as nothing was wrong but there was a hesitation and she just says I don't think I want to do this anymore. I want to leave. I apologize and tell her I don't want her to be uncomfortable. She gets up calmly and starts putting her clothes back on asking me if I'm ok and apologizing to me over and over again. I grab our agreed ppm $$ from the nightstand and place it on the bed and she says for me to keep my money. I tell her no I insist that she takes the money. She resists a few more times while apologizing but eventually takes it and tanks me, apologizes again and leaves.

I really don't know what went wrong. I asked her while she was dressing if it was me and she assured me that it wasn't me at all while apologizing. She told me prior to us meeting that this would be her second arrangement but I am doubtful and I believe this was her first and she just couldn't go through with it. I'm pretty disappointed because she was gorgeous with a perfect body.

[QUOTE=ItsAHobby45;4546957]She agreed yesterday to meet me in the FC (nice hotel) and she showed up on time. She looked better than her pictures on seeking and was a really nice girl. We talked for a bit and had great conversation. We discussed a longer term arrangement and things we'd like to do outside of the FC. We then discussed both of our sexual preferences. Mine are pretty simple. She said she enjoyed a little role playing (her as a really young girl and me as an older mature man) and she also enjoys rape play with a safe word and that the word no means yes to her. I was a bit confused as she is 19 and I'm in my late 30's but I think she meant she likes to role play as a younger (underage) girl. Regardless I told her we'd explore those things at later meetings and I'd be fine with just basic sex today. She seemed fine and asked if I was ready to have sex with her. We started with some great kissing and she gave me a great BBBJ. She seemed really into the whole thing. Very eager to please me. I rolled her over on her back and put on protection and went in mish, flipped her over for a bit and then back to mish. The whole time she was enthusiastic and seemingly enjoying everything. We go on for a few more minutes and I see a tear in her eye. I stop and ask what's wrong. She tried to play it off as nothing was wrong but there was a hesitation and she just says I don't think I want to do this anymore. I want to leave. I apologize and tell her I don't want her to be uncomfortable. She gets up calmly and starts putting her clothes back on asking me if I'm ok and apologizing to me over and over again. I grab our agreed ppm $$ from the nightstand and place it on the bed and she says for me to keep my money. I tell her no I insist that she takes the money. She resists a few more times while apologizing but eventually takes it and tanks me, apologizes again and leaves.

I really don't know what went wrong. I asked her while she was dressing if it was me and she assured me that it wasn't me at all while apologizing. She told me prior to us meeting that this would be her second arrangement but I am doubtful and I believe this was her first and she just couldn't go through with it. I'm pretty disappointed because she was gorgeous with a perfect body.[/QUOTE]Go back to post #17412 from two weeks ago. I had it in the bag (not literally but ready to bag up) and she freaked. If you ever figure out how women think, it'd be a gold mine.

[QUOTE=Dimples572;4546876]When I was noob I used my Google voice number that I've had for years. Then I quickly realized that when you search it on TruePeopleSearch it pulled up all my info. So I stopped using that number real quick and I now use TextFree. It does everything you mentioned for free other than calls. You get 10 mind free but after that you have to buy more minutes. But I never ever call these hoe's anyway. Text only so this app fits all my needs.[/QUOTE]Whoaaa. That's scary.

[QUOTE=Dimples572;4546876]When I was noob I used my Google voice number that I've had for years. Then I quickly realized that when you search it on TruePeopleSearch it pulled up all my info. So I stopped using that number real quick and I now use TextFree. It does everything you mentioned for free other than calls. You get 10 mind free but after that you have to buy more minutes. But I never ever call these hoe's anyway. Text only so this app fits all my needs.[/QUOTE]Exact same thing happened to me. ALL my info was there. I immediately stopped using that account and deleted it (not that that helped the situation). Funny thing, I'm super protective of my real cell # simply because I value privacy and don't want any more spam calls / texts than I currently get, and upon searching, the internet had no idea about who owns my real cell number. But the GV "private" number was somehow fully compromised. I no longer use any google service for hobby activities.

I've been using Hushed. Not free, but it works well. Anyone have any negative experiences with that one?

I have some Intel. In the last month or so, I've talked to 5 SugarBabies who say they work for SirensVA. I started doing some investigating and found out that an old sugar baby has recruited a bunch of babies from the top SD sites and sends them straight to your house or hotel 24 hrs a day. I had one girl come to a hotel because I have an SO. Extremely hot. 20 years old. Definitely real! Tight little baby. She let me go multiple rounds. She said that if you become one of her regulars, she'll do bareback. She said that all of the girls are full service, No Holds Barred. She said her and her friends were recruited through the sites and word has already spread through the Universities. Girls are trying to get jobs like crazy with this woman who owns Sirens. If you guys get any more Intel, let us know!

I've been using the same GV number for more than three years. Just did a search on truepeoplesearch and came up with nothing.

"We could not find any records for that search criteria."

As with anything in life YMMV. Take the information available to you, verify the results and make your own choices.

[QUOTE=Kwagmire;4547435]Exact same thing happened to me. ALL my info was there. I immediately stopped using that account and deleted it (not that that helped the situation). Funny thing, I'm super protective of my real cell # simply because I value privacy and don't want any more spam calls / texts than I currently get, and upon searching, the internet had no idea about who owns my real cell number. But the GV "private" number was somehow fully compromised. I no longer use any google service for hobby activities.

I've been using Hushed. Not free, but it works well. Anyone have any negative experiences with that one?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=TheArcher;4547493]I have some Intel. In the last month or so, I've talked to 5 SugarBabies who say they work for SirensVA. I started doing some investigating and found out that an old sugar baby has recruited a bunch of babies from the top SD sites and sends them straight to your house or hotel 24 hrs a day. I had one girl come to a hotel because I have an SO. Extremely hot. 20 years old. Definitely real! Tight little baby. She let me go multiple rounds. She said that if you become one of her regulars, she'll do bareback. She said that all of the girls are full service, No Holds Barred. She said her and her friends were recruited through the sites and word has already spread through the Universities. Girls are trying to get jobs like crazy with this woman who owns Sirens. If you guys get any more Intel, let us know![/QUOTE]While all intel is appreciated I feel like this belongs in the escort forum and not the SB forum. For me at least, there is a distinction between prostitutes / escorts and sb's as a real sb tends to be lower mileage, more of a connection and less transactional than escorts.

[QUOTE=TopGun9;4546863]I have been using Google Voice for years, because I have a Google / Gmail account.

But it is getting to very annoying lately because when you send a lots of text messages, it shut you down for a day or so and you can't send any more messages.

What texting apps do you guys use? That texts, makes calls, send and receive pics and videos?[/QUOTE]Is another one you can use in addition to textfree. You have to put the app on a burner if you want to make calls from it, it won't do that from a browser, but will do everything else.

I've used the Burner app for iPhone. It's $5/ month, but provides unlimited texting. Use it for this sort of situation obviously, but also good for other times when you might not want to give out your "real" number.

[QUOTE=TopGun9;4546863]I have been using Google Voice for years, because I have a Google / Gmail account.

But it is getting to very annoying lately because when you send a lots of text messages, it shut you down for a day or so and you can't send any more messages.

What texting apps do you guys use? That texts, makes calls, send and receive pics and videos?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=TheArcher;4547493]I have some Intel. In the last month or so, I've talked to 5 SugarBabies who say they work for SirensVA. I started doing some investigating and found out that an old sugar baby has recruited a bunch of babies from the top SD sites and sends them straight to your house or hotel 24 hrs a day. I had one girl come to a hotel because I have an SO. Extremely hot. 20 years old. Definitely real! Tight little baby. She let me go multiple rounds. She said that if you become one of her regulars, she'll do bareback. She said that all of the girls are full service, No Holds Barred. She said her and her friends were recruited through the sites and word has already spread through the Universities. Girls are trying to get jobs like crazy with this woman who owns Sirens. If you guys get any more Intel, let us know![/QUOTE]Looked at their website. If this is true, I am going to be one broke ass mf'er!

What did it cost? One price? Or tip, also?

Angelic_Ava.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/3a70b346-52d0-432f-bdcd-d65fac460ae5[/URL]

Meeting her tomorrow at the FC. Seems a bit higher mileage than I'm used to but she sent some private pictures that intrigued me so I'm giving it a shot. There was a lot of negotiation about payment. She insisted on $3-4. I told her not interested as she's a bit older than I prefer. She changed her mind and reaches out to me this morning. $2. 5 agreed upon. Her communication is extremely slow so that worries me. I wasted $350 yesterday on my skiddish 19 yo so I don't want to waste more money on a room for her not to show. At this point I have no backups if she doesn't show. Anyone want to trade? 18-19 white, petite is what I'm looking for.

[QUOTE=ArtImperial;4547701]I've used the Burner app for iPhone. It's $5/ month, but provides unlimited texting. Use it for this sort of situation obviously, but also good for other times when you might not want to give out your "real" number.[/QUOTE]I'm actually a fan of MySudo. They claim to not maintain any info on who you really are, which sucks if you lose your password or don't back up. Burner App WILL respond to a subpoena They say so in their faq. I realize we aren't all hiding from the NSA, but still.

[URL]https://mysudo.com/[/URL]

[QUOTE=SteelCities;4547831]Looked at their website. If this is true, I am going to be one broke ass mf'er!

What did it cost? One price? Or tip, also?[/QUOTE]Holy shit every girl on there is super hot. Almost TGTBT. If these women are real I can guarantee you the prices are going to be out of this world. If anyone has pricing information I would love to know so I know how much of a loan to take out LOL.

[QUOTE=ItsAHobby45;4547983]Angelic_Ava.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/3a70b346-52d0-432f-bdcd-d65fac460ae5[/URL]

Meeting her tomorrow at the FC. Seems a bit higher mileage than I'm used to but she sent some private pictures that intrigued me so I'm giving it a shot. There was a lot of negotiation about payment. She insisted on $3-4. I told her not interested as she's a bit older than I prefer. She changed her mind and reaches out to me this morning. $2. 5 agreed upon. Her communication is extremely slow so that worries me. I wasted $350 yesterday on my skiddish 19 yo so I don't want to waste more money on a room for her not to show. At this point I have no backups if she doesn't show. Anyone want to trade? 18-19 white, petite is what I'm looking for.[/QUOTE]Would love to hear how it goes. She is super cutre.

[QUOTE=TheArcher;4547493]I have some Intel. In the last month or so, I've talked to 5 SugarBabies who say they work for SirensVA. I started doing some investigating and found out that an old sugar baby has recruited a bunch of babies from the top SD sites and sends them straight to your house or hotel 24 hrs a day. I had one girl come to a hotel because I have an SO. Extremely hot. 20 years old. Definitely real! Tight little baby. She let me go multiple rounds. She said that if you become one of her regulars, she'll do bareback. She said that all of the girls are full service, No Holds Barred. She said her and her friends were recruited through the sites and word has already spread through the Universities. Girls are trying to get jobs like crazy with this woman who owns Sirens. If you guys get any more Intel, let us know![/QUOTE]Link to the site? I am usually good finding these things. Maybe Google un-indexed it?

[QUOTE=TheHobbyLobby;4548178]Would love to hear how it goes. She is super cutre.[/QUOTE]I'll definitely review as soon as we're done. I don't think I will have a favorable review of this one. My expectations are really high because I have seen some amazing 18-19 yo's over the past few months and this one just feels like a professional sb which isn't my thing. That mixed with the fact that I negotiated her down to a point she didn't want to see me for usually means the experience will be sub par.

I may end up using her has the backup though as a girl that I've been trying to get to talk to me for months finally messaged me back on Seeking a couple of hours ago. This is an 18 yo VCU blonde that I talked to for a couple of days when I first joined sa. She sent me pics proving she was real back then and then ghosted. She finally wrote me tonight that she was sorry and doesn't get on SA much and she then texted me. By the time I got her message on SA she closed her account. Her username is LilyNc. She was talked about on here before but nobody has been able to see her. I responded to her text but she's yet to respond back to me. We will see. If I can line her up tomorrow I'll make the original girl the backup in case Lily flakes on me. I'll pay Lily whatever she asks for. Sorry guys but she'll have gps when I'm done with her. She's been center radar of mine since day 1.

[QUOTE=Hal1957;4547517]I've been using the same GV number for more than three years. Just did a search on truepeoplesearch and came up with nothing.

"We could not find any records for that search criteria."

As with anything in life YMMV. Take the information available to you, verify the results and make your own choices.[/QUOTE]Same for me. Nada. Have had same GV for over 5 years.

One possibility. Their GV is linked to another active number and Google then cx-references the info.

[QUOTE=ItsAHobby45;4548205]This is an 18 yo VCU blonde that I talked to for a couple of days when I first joined sa. She sent me pics proving she was real back then and then ghosted. She finally wrote me tonight that she was sorry and doesn't get on SA much and she then texted me. By the time I got her message on SA she closed her account. Her username is LilyNc. [/QUOTE][URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/b955b1f0-641c-4d09-9eba-2b2b351621a9[/URL]

LilyNC is definitely still on the site.

20 year old blonde wants to meet near Regency and talk. Anyone have any experience? PM me please.

[QUOTE=FeelGoodMd;4548251][URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/b955b1f0-641c-4d09-9eba-2b2b351621a9[/URL]

LilyNC is definitely still on the site.[/QUOTE]She must have blocked me which doesn't make sense because she texted me at the same time.

Anyone want to trade me the contact of a 18-19 sb for LilyNC’s number?

[QUOTE=RiverCity2011;4548276]20 year old blonde wants to meet near Regency and talk. Anyone have any experience? PM me please.[/QUOTE]She agreed via text to meet me but said the first meeting would only be 10 minutes and she expected to be paid for the meeting. I declined.

[QUOTE=ItsAHobby45;4548289]She agreed via text to meet me but said the first meeting would only be 10 minutes and she expected to be paid for the meeting. I declined.[/QUOTE]I had m&g set up near regency, no money was discussed but she ghosted a couple hours before the meeting.

Saw the post last night and had a dream about it. So, as someone mentioned this may belong in the escort section but it's definitely better than an average stg experience.

Dreamt that the initial damage was $1. 8. Then an upsell of $. So total damage was $$. 8 In my dream I met with Kaylee. She looked a little older than her pics but still looked good. Great attitude. Nice lapdance and then everything covered. Easy set up. Outcalls only I think.

[QUOTE=TheHobbyLobby;4548173]Holy shit every girl on there is super hot. Almost TGTBT. If these women are real I can guarantee you the prices are going to be out of this world. If anyone has pricing information I would love to know so I know how much of a loan to take out LOL.[/QUOTE]

I must be the worst of all you guys. She told me she's not in to physical intimacy. Glad someone had some luck though. Stay safe!

[QUOTE=ItsAHobby45;4545595]I was talking to her earlier. She said she lives with her parents and can't host and wants $800 per meet. 🤣129315;129315;. I guess you just have a way with the ladies.[/QUOTE]

Just a short rant. This findom stuff is getting annoying. It's a serious gauntlet of girls who only want findom arrangements. I guess if that's your thing you must be in heaven right now, but I'm pretty sure that's got to be a pretty small percentage of SDs. I just rejoined SA, hopefully looking to find one who wants some holiday cash and like 90% of messages are findom.

[QUOTE=EBob1111;4545620]Financial dominatrixes I guess, looking for rich wimps who will send them cash for nothing.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=LogJammin18;4548203]Link to the site? I am usually good finding these things. Maybe Google un-indexed it?[/QUOTE]I googled SirensVA. I think it's dotcom. Apparently, SA has become saturated with the same 200 guys and the same 200 girls putting up new profiles every 6 months, so the SBs are desperate, especially during the Holidays. A woman opened a company and is trying to hire every SugarBaby in VA. They're based in Richmond, but they send girls all over Virginia. They're moving into DC and NC. This lady is offering the SBs huge incentives and safety and they're all flocking to her when they get fed up with the site. I saw a girl last night. 19 years old. Could bounce a quarter off her ass. Gorgeous, bubbly, eager to please. Didn't have to spend endless hours texting and getting ghosted.

1. I was contacted by a girl on SA. She and I can exchange messages but every time I go to look at her profile I get the "deleted / blocked etc" screen. She says she doesn't know why and can see my profile. Anybody ever had this happen?

2. Saw a new profile, girl is 20, slightly cute, nothing to write home about. She says in her log line and twice more, "Just want someone to pay me money but I don't want to do anything. " Pretty much nothing else in the profile. Very tempted to message her and ask how that's working out, LOL.

[QUOTE=VetSD;4548717]I googled SirensVA. I think it's dotcom. Apparently, SA has become saturated with the same 200 guys and the same 200 girls putting up new profiles every 6 months, so the SBs are desperate, especially during the Holidays. A woman opened a company and is trying to hire every SugarBaby in VA. They're based in Richmond, but they send girls all over Virginia. They're moving into DC and NC. This lady is offering the SBs huge incentives and safety and they're all flocking to her when they get fed up with the site. I saw a girl last night. 19 years old. Could bounce a quarter off her ass. Gorgeous, bubbly, eager to please. Didn't have to spend endless hours texting and getting ghosted.[/QUOTE]Can you share what was the damage for an hour?

Hobby. Which girl are you talking about? You've mentioned a bunch lately and I can't seem to figure out which one.

Starkey.

[QUOTE=ItsAHobby45;4546957]She agreed yesterday to meet me in the FC (nice hotel) and she showed up on time. She looked better than her pictures on seeking and was a really nice girl. We talked for a bit and had great conversation. We discussed a longer term arrangement and things we'd like to do outside of the FC. We then discussed both of our sexual preferences. Mine are pretty simple. She said she enjoyed a little role playing (her as a really young girl and me as an older mature man) and she also enjoys rape play with a safe word and that the word no means yes to her. I was a bit confused as she is 19 and I'm in my late 30's but I think she meant she likes to role play as a younger (underage) girl. Regardless I told her we'd explore those things at later meetings and I'd be fine with just basic sex today. She seemed fine and asked if I was ready to have sex with her. We started with some great kissing and she gave me a great BBBJ. She seemed really into the whole thing. Very eager to please me. I rolled her over on her back and put on protection and went in mish, flipped her over for a bit and then back to mish. The whole time she was enthusiastic and seemingly enjoying everything. We go on for a few more minutes and I see a tear in her eye. I stop and ask what's wrong. She tried to play it off as nothing was wrong but there was a hesitation and she just says I don't think I want to do this anymore. I want to leave. I apologize and tell her I don't want her to be uncomfortable. She gets up calmly and starts putting her clothes back on asking me if I'm ok and apologizing to me over and over again. I grab our agreed ppm $$ from the nightstand and place it on the bed and she says for me to keep my money. I tell her no I insist that she takes the money. She resists a few more times while apologizing but eventually takes it and tanks me, apologizes again and leaves.

I really don't know what went wrong. I asked her while she was dressing if it was me and she assured me that it wasn't me at all while apologizing. She told me prior to us meeting that this would be her second arrangement but I am doubtful and I believe this was her first and she just couldn't go through with it. I'm pretty disappointed because she was gorgeous with a perfect body.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Starkey2008;4549202]Hobby. Which girl are you talking about? You've mentioned a bunch lately and I can't seem to figure out which one.

Starkey.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/7f3a1201-232a-46d2-9dc6-a1bc5c2d8193[/URL]

If any of you guys can pull it off I highly recommend her if she’s stable. Shes 5’1” and weighs 100 pounds. Small but perky tits. Beautiful ass and the view from the back is what dreams are made of. I’ll share her number with senior members that have an equally quality to trade me.

[QUOTE=WaterBoi;4548684]Saw the post last night and had a dream about it. So, as someone mentioned this may belong in the escort section but it's definitely better than an average stg experience.

Dreamt that the initial damage was $1. 8. Then an upsell of $. So total damage was $$. 8 In my dream I met with Kaylee. She looked a little older than her pics but still looked good. Great attitude. Nice lapdance and then everything covered. Easy set up. Outcalls only I think.[/QUOTE]Found it. Tiffany looks like a lot of fun. Anyone plundered that?

[QUOTE=ItsAHobby45;4549241][URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/7f3a1201-232a-46d2-9dc6-a1bc5c2d8193[/URL]

If any of you guys can pull it off I highly recommend her if shes stable. Shes 51 and weighs 100 pounds. Small but perky tits. Beautiful ass and the view from the back is what dreams are made of. Ill share her number with senior members that have an equally quality to trade me.[/QUOTE]Sounds like you ran into one who realized while banging you that she was now essentially a hooker. Made her feel bad inside. Probably not cut out for this. Interesting to see if she comes back into the bowl.

The fact she told you to keep the money is a big tell. She realized that you finishing the deed was part of the trade, i. e., she was now a sex worker and one way to try and mitigate the realization was refusing to take the money. Kind of trying to rewind history to when she first walked in the door as the GND. I must say at 19 the rape role play is a bit out there.

[QUOTE=HappyHunter44;4549510]Sounds like you ran into one who realized while banging you that she was now essentially a hooker. Made her feel bad inside. Probably not cut out for this. Interesting to see if she comes back into the bowl.

The fact she told you to keep the money is a big tell. She realized that you finishing the deed was part of the trade, i. e., she was now a sex worker and one way to try and mitigate the realization was refusing to take the money. Kind of trying to rewind history to when she first walked in the door as the GND. I must say at 19 the rape role play is a bit out there.[/QUOTE]That's kinda what I was thinking. Her story of a previous arrangement was made up so that she didn't seem so inexperienced. I don't think she'll be back on SA as being a sb just isn't for everyone. She told me about some serious daddy issues like most of these girls seem to have. I also think the rape play she mentioned has a story behind it. I'm still pretty disappointed today about the whole situation. Physically, she has been my favorite out of all the sb's I've met from Seeking and I would have loved to explore the rape fantasy with her. I did text her today and asked if she would be interested in seeing me again and her response was "no thank you". I had to try.