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I was on the m/c last night and saw a stunning BSW in hotpants, statuesque, w/killer thighs, you know the ones that show muscular definition, and a set of butt cheeks to make you drool. LE was in the next block down, and everywhere else, but I had to make two passes to satisfy my eyes.
Your right about LE last night.On Pig saw 4 cars pulled over + LE blocked off an entire block on the corner of some gas station (im guessin robbery). Had the choppers too. There were about 9 BSW scattered from Imperial to the 50's. One or two looked worth it but by the third pass they were taken up already.
Living so close to the track I thought I would report on recent ghetto bird activity. The birds usually come out around 1am and stay out until about 3:30 flying high in the sky and hammering their high beams down for about two hours. After that they decide to go home. This was the case all last week.
I usually come home around these times but now have been coming home later to notice them no longer out past 3:30 or so. Easier to not get busted but also the pickings are slimmer. I may be better though because the ones that stay out late usually are willing to take less because they either haven't made any money that not or not enough money.
[QUOTE=Marlowe]And you posted this in the LA forum instead of the Pasadena forum because?[/QUOTE]I'm guessing that Limabeansstink was still temporarily dazed from tapping it on the fly and then racing back to work on the same day. Can't bag on him too hard for being eager to share.
found a non-pimped dimepiece named lucky this morning around 2:45 on 66th. she was perfect all around - pretty face, clean, straight white teeth, tight (think marie luv) body with a cute l'il bubble butt, small but nice firm titties, and a really sweet, but sexy (non-ghetto) demeanor. as baldy would say, "she talks like a white girl from hermosa." haha...
she was wearing red lacy booty shorts that accentuated her lucious smooth long legs, a matching bra-type thingy and high-heels. she hopped in, did the touch and asked for a bbbj. agreed on .50, just no cim.
found a good spot and she got to work - great suction! enjoyed caressing her soft yet tight booty and decided i wanted to get into that pussy. asked her if another 10 spot would do the trick? she agreed, pulled down her panties revealing a tiny completely shaved snatch. reclined the seat for her, then got myself in posion. gentlemen... let me tell you, this chick was tiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight! pounded her good for about 3 minutes, then pulled out and popped on that clean, tidy pelvic area. cleaned and sanitized and made some small talk on the ride back.
total damage: .60!
i've got digits for all my sista' lovin brutha's - pm me. newbies, don't even bother flooding my inbox. however, she did tell me that she strips at barbary coast and king rambo's.
baldy, you're gonna' want to check this one out.
marlowe, i know you've had trouble believing that i've been able to score 9's and 10's for less than a bill, but i was just in the right place at the right time. this sw is very reminiscent of the other hottie i p/u last year named gigi.
le was tied up south of el segundo blvd. - must of been a shooting or something serious - 20 plus cop cars plus ems. 60's were mellow, but i got lucky as aformentioned, but 49th was outta' control! ho's everywhere, but so were all the pimps. some great eye candy, though. 110th had a few lookers. lotta' mongers out around this time.
went by on saturday and seen something i wanted to hit a block past the motel. the bsw looked as if she may have been **** (16-18 yrs) i did a two pass swoop to make sure it was safe. another car beat me to the punch. unfortunately, a few minutes later, i saw the same car get pulled over by the cops. watch out fellas. lbb seems to be getting hit hard.
Made my way down LBB to Compton. Seen a few BSW in a pack on Palms. I never like hitting them when they're grouped up like that. Finally, i seen something worth it next to the Rite Aid. BSW in her early 20's in blue jean shorts . I did my usual 2-swoops to make sure it was safe. I picked her up and had a swell time. $35. Pricey. Yes, but worth it, for 4 sure!
Le is very heavy due to the upcoming election and pressure from neighborhood groups. LE is now staking out the notels (Hub, Flamingo, Bronco) and will break up your date in the parking lot and/or give you a hard time. Don't be surprised if there are some stings set up here over the next couple of weeks. I'm staying away for a while-its getting way hot. Sheriff must be up for reelection.
2 WSW lookers on Pig/53. Looked to good to be true and I was right. They were posted on the corner for quite some time. Went back for the second pass to get a better look, Saw a truck pull up to them to negotiate. Went about 2 or 3 blocks down and headed back through the back street. When I pull up to the street I see to LE vehicles. Sucks for that guy.
While driving to work, I meandered by Fig between Vernon and 51st. Looking for a quick nut. I hadn't nutted in 3 days and the jizz buildup was begging for release by some stranger.
I saw an LAPD slick-top parked just north of Figueroa and 47th at the mini-market. They were talking to a LSW about 18 y/o? She was tatooed, wearing a bra top and mini skirt. My nutsack and meat club were bursting out of my shorts after seeing her. I felt the pre-cum rising as I watched this bitty cooly talking to the pigs.
I tired of waiting as I fantasized having a SW wrap her lips around my rod and stroke it to jizzdom!
I drove past the police car and saw a BSW (20 yo, nose stud, thin build, 5'2", 100 lbs, shorts = no celulite, straight shoulder length hair). I give her an 8.
The thought of blatantly pulling over to pick up a prostitute in front of the brethren police was scary, tintilating, exciting and got me fucking more hot! I pulled over a half block from the cops and she jumped in.
She called herself "Gemma". She did the cop test and touched my cock and asked me to touch her tits. We decided to drive to Broadway and 45th away from the hot zone.
She told me the cops had been stepping up patrol. I giggled inside secretly as I already knew that 77th Division LAPD has their SEU unit, Vice PED team and LAPD Metro division on the hunt in this area. More about that later.
We found a quiet spot. She rubbed my cock to attention. I was amused at watching a total stranger. A black woman. Stroking my tan cock to attention. She slowly wrapped her hot wet lips around my cock head and bobbed up and down.
I turned my head to watch her lips expand and contract around the width of my cock as she left a shiny saliva trail. She kept up a good pace, moaning and rubbing my balls with her finger. I felt the saliva drooling down my shaft, onto my balls and then dribbling into my underwear.
This was fucking great! The evilness and prohibitive nature of this criminal act in public was heightened by the fact that within an hour, I was due in roll call at.--- Division LAPD. No. I will not tell you what Division I work at for anonymity sakes and so I can keep my job.
I pondered the thought how I could lose my job, ruin my reputation and be kicked out of LE permanently should I be caught and arrested for 647b PC!
The elixir of conducting a lewd act in public, feeling the pleasure of BBBJ from a prostitute, having a total stranger pleasure me, breaking the law, enforcing the law, hypocrisy. Fuck! It caused me to have a mind-blasting orgasm! I bucked, shuddered, quivered and grabbed the base of my cock to juice myself and augment the orgasm. She quickly pulled away with one mouthful of jizz which she spit into a napkin. I jerked off the rest of my jizz. About 8 pulses which subsided in volume to a drizzle. The first 2 giant blasts went into her mouth!
I got that "Post Jizz" clarity where after you nut. The girl doesn’t look all that great and now you just want her out of the car. You hobbyists know what I mean LOL. I drove her to 49th and Fig and was scared as hell hoping none of the boys in blue would pull us over and find out one of their own was working the Fig!
She got out and said, "You know. I know you’re a cop. Maybe a cop that likes prostitutes. You’re not the only one and you won’t be the last. I’m cool, I won’t say shit if you don’t. Late!
In case any of you readers are LAPD cops. I'll say a phrase to let you know I'm the real thing. "I got my first hoodrat at the rock garden on pay day Wednesday. I also know what I did was totally unsat".
If indeed you are who you say you are, do you actively work in a division that targets prostitution? Do you work patrol? Are you Vice? Maybe you can explain why one night, LE is all over the girls, and some nights, they look the other way??
Your story was very intriguing, but I'm still in shock that as an officer of the law, you would post about your indiscretion on an open forum, all while identifying yourself as LE. Did you pay the girl, or did you flash the badge?
This is very interesting.
[QUOTE=B Malibu]If indeed you are who you say you are, do you actively work in a division that targets prostitution? Do you work patrol? Are you Vice? Maybe you can explain why one night, LE is all over the girls, and some nights, they look the other way??
Your story was very intriguing, but I'm still in shock that as an officer of the law, you would post about your indiscretion on an open forum, all while identifying yourself as LE. Did you pay the girl, or did you flash the badge?
This is very interesting.[/QUOTE]If walter is who he says he is and did what he claims he did "huevos grandes amigo".
Ps hey walter be a homie and give "RSC" a break now and then.
Check the name you know what I'm talkin bout.
[QUOTE=Walter]While driving to work, I meandered by Fig between Vernon and 51st. Looking for a quick nut. I hadn't nutted in 3 days and the jizz buildup was begging for release by some stranger.
I saw an LAPD slick-top parked just north of Figueroa and 47th at the mini-market. They were talking to a LSW about 18 y/o? She was tatooed, wearing a bra top and mini skirt. My nutsack and meat club were bursting out of my shorts after seeing her. I felt the pre-cum rising as I watched this bitty cooly talking to the pigs.
I tired of waiting as I fantasized having a SW wrap her lips around my rod and stroke it to jizzdom!
I drove past the police car and saw a BSW (20 yo, nose stud, thin build, 5'2", 100 lbs, shorts = no celulite, straight shoulder length hair). I give her an 8.
The thought of blatantly pulling over to pick up a prostitute in front of the brethren police was scary, tintilating, exciting and got me fucking more hot! I pulled over a half block from the cops and she jumped in.
She called herself "Gemma". She did the cop test and touched my cock and asked me to touch her tits. We decided to drive to Broadway and 45th away from the hot zone.
She told me the cops had been stepping up patrol. I giggled inside secretly as I already knew that 77th Division LAPD has their SEU unit, Vice PED team and LAPD Metro division on the hunt in this area. More about that later.
We found a quiet spot. She rubbed my cock to attention. I was amused at watching a total stranger. A black woman. Stroking my tan cock to attention. She slowly wrapped her hot wet lips around my cock head and bobbed up and down.
I turned my head to watch her lips expand and contract around the width of my cock as she left a shiny saliva trail. She kept up a good pace, moaning and rubbing my balls with her finger. I felt the saliva drooling down my shaft, onto my balls and then dribbling into my underwear.
This was fucking great! The evilness and prohibitive nature of this criminal act in public was heightened by the fact that within an hour, I was due in roll call at.--- Division LAPD. No. I will not tell you what Division I work at for anonymity sakes and so I can keep my job.
I pondered the thought how I could lose my job, ruin my reputation and be kicked out of LE permanently should I be caught and arrested for 647b PC!
The elixir of conducting a lewd act in public, feeling the pleasure of BBBJ from a prostitute, having a total stranger pleasure me, breaking the law, enforcing the law, hypocrisy. Fuck! It caused me to have a mind-blasting orgasm! I bucked, shuddered, quivered and grabbed the base of my cock to juice myself and augment the orgasm. She quickly pulled away with one mouthful of jizz which she spit into a napkin. I jerked off the rest of my jizz. About 8 pulses which subsided in volume to a drizzle. The first 2 giant blasts went into her mouth!
I got that "Post Jizz" clarity where after you nut. The girl doesn’t look all that great and now you just want her out of the car. You hobbyists know what I mean LOL. I drove her to 49th and Fig and was scared as hell hoping none of the boys in blue would pull us over and find out one of their own was working the Fig!
She got out and said, "You know. I know you’re a cop. Maybe a cop that likes prostitutes. You’re not the only one and you won’t be the last. I’m cool, I won’t say shit if you don’t. Late!
In case any of you readers are LAPD cops. I'll say a phrase to let you know I'm the real thing. "I got my first hoodrat at the rock garden on pay day Wednesday. I also know what I did was totally unsat".[/QUOTE]
Walter, you need to really think about what you're doing in here. Why are you even posting such nonsense? To help possibly boost your ego? We don't need this in here. You gets no love from the homies in here. I suggest you leave the force and then maybe, and yes, maybe start mongering. Until then, stay off of the true mongering boards. Peace....
[QUOTE=B Malibu]If indeed you are who you say you are, do you actively work in a division that targets prostitution? Do you work patrol? Are you Vice? Maybe you can explain why one night, LE is all over the girls, and some nights, they look the other way?
Your story was very intriguing, but I'm still in shock that as an officer of the law, you would post about your indiscretion on an open forum, all while identifying yourself as LE. Did you pay the girl, or did you flash the badge?
This is very interesting.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=B Malibu]If indeed you are who you say you are, do you actively work in a division that targets prostitution? Do you work patrol? Are you Vice? Maybe you can explain why one night, LE is all over the girls, and some nights, they look the other way??
Your story was very intriguing, but I'm still in shock that as an officer of the law, you would post about your indiscretion on an open forum, all while identifying yourself as LE. Did you pay the girl, or did you flash the badge?
This is very interesting.[/QUOTE]All LAPD Divisions target prostitution; however some are more active in SWs than others. For instance, West LA Div, West Valley and Devonshire Division are not known to be hot bed SW locs, however they target more of craigslist hookers and also set up stings on johns.
Places like Central, Rampart, Newton, 77th, Southeast, Harbor division are more active with SWs hence they target this facet of victimless crime.
I have worked patrol and also an 18 month tour in vice...i won't say what division. The LAPD limits it's officers (Police officer III) to stay in vice for only 18 months. They believe more than that can set the stage for corruption. Vice cops can get extended a DP or two if necessary.
LE are all over the girls because they react to the division captain's response to the community complaints. The easiest way to pick up stats and show they're working is to have patrol officers or Vice PED (Prostitution Enforcement Detail...uniformed officers dedicated to 647b enforcement) hit the pavement and get names (FI cards), give tickets, arrest girls for warrants and maybe get the occasional "lewd in public act" 647a PC.
You may see the sudden calm where cops don't appear to be hassling the girls or johns. That's cause they are chasing radio calls and committing to calls for service that pop up on their MDT screens. Since they're busy handling calls, they...or we...cannot fuck with the girls.
Don't be shocked that an officer of the law might trip to the dark side. I find a lot of cops to fall into three groups...idealists, squints trying to promote, and the rebellious malcontent. All of these men have carnal desires and needs...some are better suppressing them than others while others have the balls to dare taste the fruits of the forbidden tree.
Adam may have paid a high price for tasting the forbidden fruit, but did anyone ever ask Adam how he felt when he suddenly noticed he and Eve were both shamefully naked? I bet the mother fucker had a high noon hard-on and shagged her ass hard!
I am the disgruntled officer who tried to promote but got passed over because I wasn't sucking the captain's dick or buying Starbucks for the Lieutenant every watch. So writing this shit is a catharsis for me as well as payback and educating the public.
Could I get busted for writing this shit by my department? Not criminally unless they caught me doing what I alleged to be doing. But for sure I'd get hammered administratively...the end would be the same..job jeopardy. But fuck it.
I did pay the girl $40 with no haggling. I would never flash a badge. You'd be surprised...SWs are vindictive survivors and they would black mail a cop and try to sue the department if a "john" cop ever flashed a badge for a blowjob. He'd be in prison for rape under the color of authority and the SW would win the million dollar LA City lotto.
I think as a hobbyist, we are in a way; compulsive addicts that risk job, family and reputation to satiate a perverse pleasure of watching and engaging in a live 3 dimensional XXX movie...tasting, seeing, smelling, hearing, feeling every stroke-touch-lick-slide-and cum blast. If you've been there, you'd understand me.
[QUOTE=Blcknce]Walter, you need to really think about what you're doing in here. Why are you even posting such nonsense? To help possibly boost your ego? We don't need this in here. You gets no love from the homies in here. I suggest you leave the force and then maybe, and yes, maybe start mongering. Until then, stay off of the true mongering boards. Peace....[/QUOTE]I am in this forum because it is open to anyone who follows the rules and engages in a civil information format. I choose to write very descriptive passages to describe the pulse I feel when I participate in the hobby.
I don't have an ego to boost and fuel. If I had a big ego, I would not be paying prostitutes for sex or be a cop. Cops in general that I know have low self esteem and compensate by being authoritarian and pump a pseudo ego. I agree the forum does not need ego boosting. But I ask for no accolades and I have not posted anything in my trip report asking for a pat on the back.
I don't expect to get love from homies. Only from girlfriends. If someone does not like me, that's his God given right.
I don't want to leave the force because it pays well, good health insurance and a great pension plan with the LAPPL. I mongered way before becoming a cop and I'll continue to monger.
I don't think staying off any true mongering board is relevant unless I am spamming or a flamer. I am neither. Catharsis, a bit of personal vengeance, perverse fun in getting away with something and boredom are some of my reasons for posting here.
Hmm, I say this guy can be a credit and resource to the site. If he can prove his credibility by providing us with some verifiable intel on vice activities in the area and tactics of LE it could possibly be a benefit for all of us. Walter, you are a member of the biggest enemy of mongers, prove why we should trust you.
[QUOTE=Walter]While driving to work, I meandered by Fig between Vernon and 51st. Looking for a quick nut. I hadn't nutted in 3 days and the jizz buildup was begging for release by some stranger.
I saw an LAPD slick-top parked just north of Figueroa and 47th at the mini-market. They were talking to a LSW about 18 y/o? She was tatooed, wearing a bra top and mini skirt. My nutsack and meat club were bursting out of my shorts after seeing her. I felt the pre-cum rising as I watched this bitty cooly talking to the pigs.
I tired of waiting as I fantasized having a SW wrap her lips around my rod and stroke it to jizzdom!
I drove past the police car and saw a BSW (20 yo, nose stud, thin build, 5'2", 100 lbs, shorts = no celulite, straight shoulder length hair). I give her an 8.
The thought of blatantly pulling over to pick up a prostitute in front of the brethren police was scary, tintilating, exciting and got me fucking more hot! I pulled over a half block from the cops and she jumped in.
She called herself "Gemma". She did the cop test and touched my cock and asked me to touch her tits. We decided to drive to Broadway and 45th away from the hot zone.
She told me the cops had been stepping up patrol. I giggled inside secretly as I already knew that 77th Division LAPD has their SEU unit, Vice PED team and LAPD Metro division on the hunt in this area. More about that later.
We found a quiet spot. She rubbed my cock to attention. I was amused at watching a total stranger. A black woman. Stroking my tan cock to attention. She slowly wrapped her hot wet lips around my cock head and bobbed up and down.
I turned my head to watch her lips expand and contract around the width of my cock as she left a shiny saliva trail. She kept up a good pace, moaning and rubbing my balls with her finger. I felt the saliva drooling down my shaft, onto my balls and then dribbling into my underwear.
This was fucking great! The evilness and prohibitive nature of this criminal act in public was heightened by the fact that within an hour, I was due in roll call at.--- Division LAPD. No. I will not tell you what Division I work at for anonymity sakes and so I can keep my job.
I pondered the thought how I could lose my job, ruin my reputation and be kicked out of LE permanently should I be caught and arrested for 647b PC!
The elixir of conducting a lewd act in public, feeling the pleasure of BBBJ from a prostitute, having a total stranger pleasure me, breaking the law, enforcing the law, hypocrisy. Fuck! It caused me to have a mind-blasting orgasm! I bucked, shuddered, quivered and grabbed the base of my cock to juice myself and augment the orgasm. She quickly pulled away with one mouthful of jizz which she spit into a napkin. I jerked off the rest of my jizz. About 8 pulses which subsided in volume to a drizzle. The first 2 giant blasts went into her mouth!
I got that "Post Jizz" clarity where after you nut. The girl doesn’t look all that great and now you just want her out of the car. You hobbyists know what I mean LOL. I drove her to 49th and Fig and was scared as hell hoping none of the boys in blue would pull us over and find out one of their own was working the Fig!
She got out and said, "You know. I know you’re a cop. Maybe a cop that likes prostitutes. You’re not the only one and you won’t be the last. I’m cool, I won’t say shit if you don’t. Late!
In case any of you readers are LAPD cops. I'll say a phrase to let you know I'm the real thing. "I got my first hoodrat at the rock garden on pay day Wednesday. I also know what I did was totally unsat".[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Walter]While driving to work, I meandered by Fig between Vernon and 51st. Looking for a quick nut. I hadn't nutted in 3 days and the jizz buildup was begging for release by some stranger....In case any of you readers are LAPD cops. I'll say a phrase to let you know I'm the real thing. "I got my first hoodrat at the rock garden on pay day Wednesday. I also know what I did was totally unsat".[/QUOTE]
I agree with DAC, Walter can be a great resource for all of us. Just because our day gigs have a moral turpitude clause, we're all still MEN. We need to jizz, have a sandwich & beer, then roll over and fall asleep. Think of all the catholic priests, senators, congressmen, mayors, DA's, and rabbis out there whom have tried to balance their day jobs with their commitment to God or the law.
I'm not here to judge, I leave that to your GOD. I'm here to learn so that I can refine and improve my game.
I say, "welcome aboard Walter" Tell me more....
[QUOTE=Walter]I saw an LAPD slick-top parked just north of Figueroa and 47th at the mini-market. They were talking to a LSW about 18 y/o? She was tatooed, wearing a bra top and mini skirt. My nutsack and meat club were bursting out of my shorts after seeing her. I felt the pre-cum rising as I watched this bitty cooly talking to the pigs.[QUOTE=Walter]The LSW was probably Mya. I ran into her two weeks ago in that same area. I wanted to pick her up, but I had to be somewhere. Plus too much traffic. I regretted it all day! She wanted 100 for everything.
She's got a tight little body. Nice tits. She was wearing the same thing when I saw her, with her g string showing. Plus pierced belly button.
I hope she didn't get picked up.
Ok I have contemplated also about coming out for a very long time. Although I am not currently LE I am former LE including an LAPD recruit who got yanked out of the Academy for a divorce. I worked LE in Phoenix with the MCSO and also a State Correctional Officer who worked Death Row. I like Walter mongered while employed by the SO after work several times picking up the same girls that we had had contact with during a stop. Sheriff Joe Arpaio knew me by first name if anybody is familiar with Sheriff Joe he is the Sheriff that has the chain gangs and puts inmates for minor violations in surplus military tents in the scorching AZ desert. He would also send out his Pussy Posse which I was a part of to arrest the prostitutes. My youngests busts were a 14 and 16 years run aways from Kansas which looked like your everyday girl of 21 or 22 years of age. I am also with Walter that cops do it for the adreniline rush or just because in a way you want to rebel. I saves several lives during my law enforcement career and was giving kudos several times including an interview about the department on NBC News but still I didn't kiss ass and if you don't kiss ass you get nowhere on the department especially in the Sheriff's Department because he is elected and the upper brass get replaced if the current Sheiff doesn't get reelected. I one time got stop by Phoenix vice after I had dropped off a girl and they tried playing the same tricks that I played on people everyday. The bottom line is don't admit to anything. The Vice Officer told me that I had been followed and I told him that if I was being followed he knew that I had turned on a certain street and she got out and bought a soda. He agreed and said that they had followed me to that store and the truth was I had never even been in that direction. Again never admit to anything nor give more information than needed because you dig a hole for yourself. I no longer work in LE but am a Private Dick and was sitting near 7th and Towne in DT. A gang unit in an unmarked car came by and harased me and they pulled me out of the vehicle. One took me to the back of the car and the other was starting to search my vehicle I then stated that unless I was being arrested then he had no legal reason to search my vehicle and even if I had been stopped for a minor traffic infraction they have no right to search the vehicle unless in the course of the interview they observe or notice some type of illegal activitiy or possible illegal activity. He kept searching until I stated that I worked for a very prominent law firm and requested a supervisor. You should have seen how quickly they stopped searching because they knew they were not within they rights to conduct the search. Afterwards I told them that I was prior LE and they left so fast you would hardly know they were their. I see so many people get pulled over by LAPD and they cops ask if they can search the vehicle and the drivers says yes. I us e to love this game because I had no PC to do this but if the driver gives you permission than anything is game with what you find. I have been on this board for a very loooog time and I don't monger as much as I use to because mainly because I don't see paying the high prices for the quality that there is today. Just my two cents worth. Would like to hear everybody's comments
Luvdahos
[QUOTE=Walter]I am in this forum because it is open to anyone who follows the rules and engages in a civil information format. I choose to write very descriptive passages to describe the pulse I feel when I participate in the hobby.
I don't have an ego to boost and fuel. If I had a big ego, I would not be paying prostitutes for sex or be a cop. Cops in general that I know have low self esteem and compensate by being authoritarian and pump a pseudo ego. I agree the forum does not need ego boosting. But I ask for no accolades and I have not posted anything in my trip report asking for a pat on the back.
I don't expect to get love from homies. Only from girlfriends. If someone does not like me, that's his God given right.
I don't want to leave the force because it pays well, good health insurance and a great pension plan with the LAPPL. I mongered way before becoming a cop and I'll continue to monger.
I don't think staying off any true mongering board is relevant unless I am spamming or a flamer. I am neither. Catharsis, a bit of personal vengeance, perverse fun in getting away with something and boredom are some of my reasons for posting here.[/QUOTE]
Very enjoyable and informative reading! Some of the most interesting 411 I've read in a long time. I agree with your candid observation about "most" LE having low self-esteem and compensating with the badge and holster.
I also agree with your comments in regards to "ego" - so very true.
I applaud each of you for your courage and appreciate all your contributions. You are men, just like the rest of us. Welcome to the site.....I hope you benefit from it and hopefully the site will benefit from you each.
I think it is a good thing that you both contribute.
Thanks again.
Rookie
I cruised twice this week and I did notice LE action was upped. One night I even noticed LE cruising back streets 2 blocks from fig looking for people in cars doing their thing.
Actually Malibu for me it was alot like the movie Training Day I became a Deputy to make a diffrence and help people out but what I found out that LE for the most part abuses their powers I had to get out because I didn't belong to the good ol'e boy system as it is know in LE. But not every cop is bad either there are guys out there that didn't care about what the Sgt or Lt said and stayed, nver getting promoted and always being shit on. I for one will not stay somewhere where I am not wanted because in the end I am not hurting them I am hurting myself thats why I left. I started hating my job where everybody hated you and the brass came down if you made a valid bust with someone who had pull because their daddy was a councilman or County supervisor because after all the Sheriff could loose the next election. Personally being in the Military when if you went overseas and didn't get layed in the PI (Phillipines) or else where meant you were gay I was introduced to the hobby by the division chief who paid for the young girl in a bar in Olangapo city, that was the culture in the Navy at the time and once you get the taste of it it is hard to get out of it. Which I'm sure you all know. I have been a memeber of the board for a long time even though I keep my posts to a minimum mostly to avoid getting caught at home but I still enjoy the occasional catch. Over the year I have contributed in numerous ities where my occupation has taken me.
Being in LE has been disenchanting; full of illusions but good money. You guys would shit at the amount of money being wasted on police resources. The politicians scare you into a siege mentality that the community is under attack by the Mongol horde. Nothing cold be farther from the truth.
In reality, the community is under attack by the city machine; sucking up tax money, tricking residents into voting for new police measures, hire more police, upgrade the radio system, upgrade the 911 system. It's the biggest joke. All that money goes into a gross lot fund. The chief of police and his cronies use "cost codes" to show where the money should be going. For example; $1 million should be used for buying new radios, MDTs, and communication equipment. These guys can buy other crap like "overtime for patrolling the Emmy Awards", purchasing new MP-5 SMGs for SWAT "D" platoon, "overtime for lazy civilian secretaries to process crime reports". The cost codes hide where the money is really going.
Always vote "No" on these crappy measures. Trust me. We men/women in LE are paid very, very well. That's why half of us live in Santa Clarita, Irvine, Anaheim Hills and drive SUVs and high end pick up trucks. Don't believe me? Go to any LAPD division about 1 hour before a shift change and watch all the cops coming to work in their rides. For the little work we do. We get paid well.
City waste? Look at the hundreds of thousands of dollars being wasted on enforcing prostitution. Yeah, 647b can be a problem if it gets out of hand when guys are throwing used condoms out onto someone's yard or humping a hooker in a guy's driveway. But there are scary criminals fucking up the community---the real Mongol horde. These are street thugs, gang members extorting store owners, gang members controlling a street, bank robbery crews, car thieves. These criminals are harder to nab than some marginally DUI driver, jaywalker, prostitute or poor-horny john. So the cops always go for the easier prey and then distort the statistics that they are chiseling away at crime. Such shit. That's why I am rebelling in my own lurid pleasurable way.
I will wag my cock at the LAPD brass by perverting their "Training Bulletin" which are informational pieces of flotsam that office squints generate to make the lives of cops more miserable.
Training Bulletin #1:
VICE OFFICER GENERAL OPS GUIDELINE-
Vice officers are under the command of two sergeants at each area division. The 2 sergeants share split shifts. One is in charge of "days" and the other "PMs" (night). Each vice office reports directly to their Area captain. The captain tells them what his pet peeves are and the vice thugs march in goose step.
Vice officers also receive complaints via phone calls, anonymous complaints or from community do-gooders. Either way, once a complaint is generated, they must see it through fruition whether they make an arrest, show inactivity or show it's unfounded.
Vice officers also generate their own activity called "obs activity". Vice will start a short roll call in their office or now...they attend patrol roll call. They will hear the street cops tell 'em where the blatant hookers and johns are messing around. The vice cops go back to their office and form a plan.
Their cars are all rentals so don't bother memorizing them. They go to Enterprise or Galpin Ford because these 2 companies get kick-backs from LAPD for advertising them in their police union newspaper.
STREET PROSTITUTION ENFORCEMENT:
I will first describe the more organized Task Force Operation format:
OK, the vice cops will typically drive in several teams; each team consists of three or two to a rental car. They are in plain clothes, armed and carry their giant Motorola SABER radio. They will usually have a slick-top B&W car manned by the PED unit. This B&W will be within 2-3 blocks of the hunting area so as not to alarm hookers or johns...where they lie in wait is called the staging area.
At the staging area, the cops will wait in their teams with the awaiting B&W; meanwhile, one team will do a probe of the target area. The team will drive by and see if there are prostitutes working the pavement. As soon as they spot one, they will drive about 2 blocks away and the driver will drop off his passengers...usually at a strip mall or bus stop. Supposedly per policy, the driver needs to be in sight of his partners for safety reason...but this is never adhered to.
The driver will then go to where the hooker is at and then try to lure her to his car. They will exchange dialogue. The vice cop will try to get a prostitution violation from her. She's usually in his car at this time. Once he gets the violation, he will drive her to where his awaiting vice cohorts are at. He will park and tell the hooker he's ready for his blowjob. He will then do something like tap his brake lights rapidly, hit a turn signal. At that point, the other vice cops will walk up on them and arrest the prostitute. The arrestee is then taken to the staging area and usually placed in a rental van. The second team of officers in a different rental car will then go out and do the same thing.
They'll repeat this cycle until the hookers get wise to this or the activity drops. At that point, the cops will take the girls to Parker Center to be booked. They will return to their station to do reports.
The best period to monger is the time between the booking phase until the officers finish their reports. Unfortunately you or I will never know exactly what time this will be at. Generally speaking, cops are lazy and they will try to time all this more towards the end of their shift.
My advice would be to do some hobbying more towards the end of their shift. Keep in mind this will not protect you from Metro units or LAPD patrol units whose shifts are staggered over the Vice schedule.
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Here is a second version more in line with a typical vice 647b op:
There are variations to the vice 647b operation. They'll use the one I described but many times this takes some planning and organization. Also, a vice unit might have low deployment for whatever reason and they will cut corners. I have personally worked a modified version of the aforementioned plan.
Instead, my partner and I work together. Usually the day vice unit will have 2-4 guys working. At night, usually 4-6 depending on how fat the team is. In this case, we work more independently. We'll go out in teams of 2 in each rental undercover car. Sometimes we'll coordinate with the other vice team to work something a bit more difficult. Most of the time we'll go on the prowl and look for a girl. The driver will drop off his partner a block or 2 away; pick up the girl, get a violation and drive her to his awaiting partner so there will be 2 cops making the arrest.
Sometimes the second vice team will follow the driver as he drives his girl around in his vehicle...trying to get a violation in their dialogue. The second "follow car" is to ensure safety and help in the arrest.
The girl is taken to the station and chained to a bench and off they vice cops go to hunt for more girls. Once they have each hooked about 3 girls max...they'll call it a night to do the booking and also write reports.
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Lewdster patrol:
The vice cops also do what's called Lewd patrol. The PED unit does this also. They'll drive there rental cars up and down side streets, alleys, etc looking for a john gettin' it on with a prostitute. The cops will shine their lights, scare the couple, get their laughs and then ruin the john's life by arresting him for 647(a)PC--lewd/lascivious act in public. This will cause the john to register as a sex offender. Fuck up a guy's life for this shit! Some of you may think the biggest threat is the B&W patrol cars. Don't be fooled. There are many johns that were busted the way I describe; they just don't participate in this forum.
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Vice Equipment:
The vice rental cars are standard rentals. They are not equipped with any emergency lights, sirens or law enforcement equipment.
There will be at least 2 dedicated vice cars that belong to the LAPD..these are typically mini-vans, 2 door American compacts, tinted windows. These are usually driven by the Vice sergeant or used for light surveillance. These cars are equipped with built in police radios but no emergency lights or sirens.
The vice cops will always carry a small tote bag or Igloo cooler which will be loaded with some things like: extra ammo magazine, hand cuff, small flash light, plastic jars for collecting alcohol bev, flexi-cuffs, misdemeanor ticket book, penal codeH&S code cheater guide, extra batteries, binoculars.
The cops are armed usually with compact semi-autos or a 5 shot revolver. Many of the cops while operating as the driver/john will keep the unholstered weapon under their left thigh,,,squished between their thigh and car seat.
Their police radio will be in the off position or "low volume" and stashed in the map box on the driver's door or disguised under newspaper or something.
You can see your typical vice cop will always try "too hard" to blend in with his ghetto surrounding. They may be in their 30s but try to dress like some hip hop kid in his late teens. Lot of white vice cops will wear "biker" gear like Jesse James "West coast chopper" shit, Skin clothing and other nonsense...funny when you see a wanna be biker standing in the middle of south-central Los Angeles.
Their favorite undercover clothes is a pendleton shirt or a gas-station utility shirt. They will wear this with blue jeans and hiking tennis shoes. You'll see their 3 lb radio sticking through their back pocket...sometimes the antenna dangling out or jutting up their shirt. Keep an eye out for this when you see suspicious pedestrians in your mongering areas.
More to cum in Training Bulletin #2
[QUOTE=Luvdahos] The bottom line is don't admit to anything. [/QUOTE]
Very true, this got me out of a DUI before.
[QUOTE=Luvdahos] I see so many people get pulled over by LAPD and they cops ask if they can search the vehicle and the drivers says yes. I us e to love this game because I had no PC to do this but if the driver gives you permission than anything is game with what you find. [/QUOTE]
Isn't it true they will just bring the K9 unit over? I was in this predicament once and I didn't feel like haveing my time wasted further by waiting on a K9 unit, plus I had nothing in my car to hide. I got a kick out of watching the cop search my entire car in vain, then letting me go.
Ok so here is some more information for everybody. If you are detained and have done nothing wrong do not give permission to search your vehicle and if they say that then we will have to wait for K9 then fine but they better get there before 15 minutes from the time they stopped you or they have to let you go. Most times except under certain extra ordinary circumstances 15 minutes is the longest that you can be held, otherwise they have to arrest you and be charged with what ever they want to or let you go. A minor traffic violation DOES not give LE the right to search your vehicle unless they smell alcohol or evidence of anything illegal i.e. plain sight. But just because they think there is something there is not a valid reason. Ask for the Sgt or the watch commander if they refuse get badge numbers. Recently I was returning from AZ and got stopped out in the middle of the desert between Blythe, CA an Indio by the Border Patrol. I immiediatly asked why I was stopped I was not able to be given a valid reason he stated that I was speeding, hmmm I was in the slow lane going 75 and people we passig me on the left lane doing 90+ so I told him to try again and since when did he turn into the Highway Patrol. He then stated that my license plate didn"t elaborate. Thats funny because my License plates had just been issued to me the week before by CA DMV. Try again. The the questions came up where are you coming from? Where are you going? I told him that it was none of his buisness where I had come from and where I was going. Most of you would think that he would have pulled me out and cuffed me by this time but the reality is that if you have no record or have done nothing wrong it doesn't matter where I have been or where I am goin. Again you have the right to remain silent this would piss me off the most. He started to give me a lecture on I-10 and if I knew what it was. Does he think I am stupid?? Drug corridor, stolen vehicles, drug corridor, human smuggling. Finally I stated to him that I wasn't an illegal and that I didn't have any illegals in my vehicles which due to my job I have a cutain between the front seats of my van and the back and my windos are limo tint all around except the front which are pretty close to limo. You could tell he wanted to search the vehicle so bad. Finally getting tired of playing games with him I stated that I had committed no crime and that if he wasn't going to arrest me then I should be on my way that my 15 minutes was almost up. He then stated that he didn't have to follow those rules that only local and state LE were governed by them. See more using the badge to intimadate. This time I reminded him that there was a thing called due proceess and was given to us by the Bill of Rights and that it pertained to all law enforcement in the US not just local and state levels. He didn't know what to say. I then informed him that I was former LE and knew the game he was playing and had been playing along but that I was getting tired and wanted to be on my merry way. Shortly after that I was let go, 15 minutes almost to the minute to when I was stopped. So once again guys stand your ground and don't allow yourself to be bullied by the cops. No matter what agency they are with. Oh and by the way I have nothing in my vehicle that I have to hide and if searched nothing would be found but I enjoy messing with them and seeing how obnoxious they get and then leaving standing there with their hands empty. Just my three cents.
WOW! Awesome! This board just got interesting again.
please keep the great info coming! Thanks.
Wow! Always knew VICE was out there, but usually kept my eyes peeled for the B&W's. Guess that's to be expected from one who doesn't understand "the other side."
My question though: are any LE simplying observing particular vehicles that may just go back and forth on the track a few times (intent)? For example, I may do a few laps, say from the 40's to the 100's w/o turning onto any streets, just simple back and forth with no soliciting; but, if LE is observant, is it likely to get stopped and questioned if they may have noticed the same vehicle a few times? Just curious what to say if stopped and questioned?
Was forced to fill out a FI card on Harbor about a year ago. SW was in car, but no action had taken place. I admitted to nothing, since afterall, nothing had happened.
Walter, your report contains a lot of useful information of what goes on behind the wizard's curtain. Thanks for sharing this info with us and making us all better mongers.
Malibu,
The vice officers are trained to be observant. If they are diligent, they will see the same vehicle sharking the streets. But really, it's more obvious if the streets are skinny, quiet and/or your car really stands out. Cadillac Escalade with gold 20's.
If they take an FI on you. The data is turned in to the records clerk. He/She will enter it into the EI(event index)10 data base which is an intelligence data base for LAPD. It can be accessed by LAPD or LASD since the info is also input into CHEERS (LASD data base).
The consequences are that if you are arrested for 647b or 647a PC, the cops will use this ancillary info to augment their case against you.
Please. Never admit to anything. Nothing! When you pick up a SW, you might as well know she is going to be dirty---warrants, crack pipe in her purse, drugs on her. You will be put under the hot lamp, the cops will scare you, threaten you, put the screws to you. No matter what. DON'T TALK.
Don't say why you're out there, or any other bull shit. Shut your hole. If they have a case on you, you're gonna be fucked anyway. Hence, it's best to shut the fuck up.
If you are driving up and down the Fig or any other monger loc, you are subject to traffic stops by either Vice PED unit, LAPD motor traffic unit, patrol or Metro. These guys are all on the hunt for stats to fill their DFAR (Daily Field Activity Report). So be careful.
I rarely fuck around with SWs. Occasionally I will to get my adrenaline rush and throw my middle finger at the LAPD brass. My suggestion is stick to escorts, Tijuana hookers or Latin Casa De Citas.
I mainly hit Casa de Citas which is why I've been mongering so long here in Los Angeles but never got arrested and tagged a sex offender.
PS// I will continue to post as much as I can. But you already know that idealistic do-good cops are monitoring this board as well as Internal Affairs. I'm sure they're in the process of opening up a complaint to find out who the fuck I am and stop me. So for now, I'll continue to post. Please be safe out there and don't get busted. Just bust nuts.
Usually go up and down Fig. once to find a SW. If not hit other routes. Too dangerous to go more than twice. Do cops pull you by race, if you are white for example rather then the car you drive?
Be safe out there.
[QUOTE=James Compton]Usually go up and down Fig. once to find a SW. If not hit other routes. Too dangerous to go more than twice. Do cops pull you by race, if you are white for example rather then the car you drive?
Be safe out there.[/QUOTE]This has been a heated discussion. Profiling by race. From my experience as a boy in blue; we are hesitant to pull over a 50 year old white man in a suit, driving a BMW sedan. But then again, I know white motor officers who pull over rich white people all the time in West LA Division and scratch them speeding tickets.
If I was patrolling the Fig at night when most of the SW action happens, I'd have no time to really see the race of the driver. I and my cohorts concentrate on gross action and obvious PC (probable cause) such as the vehicle's condition, any minor traffic violations, action of the street walker, etc.
I have known white cops who specifically went out looking for just black drivers, Asian drivers and Latino drivers; just to fuck with them and write them tickets and make their lives miserable.
On the other hand, I've known Latino and Black cops that went out of their way to fuck only with Asian and White drivers and make their lives miserable. It's a two way street.
In terms of mongering, I tend to believe the vice cops, special detail LAPD cops, patrol cops don't choose to mess with you based on your race.
I do know that they are trained to sniff around the bush if things don't look right. If they see a 19 year old White college boy from USC in a new Jetta cruising in circles around Figueroa and 47th Street. Hitting the brakes, pulling over near SWs and repeating this behavior. The cops are more apt to pull him over if they get a good look at him. They would pull him over more so than if they saw a beat up 1978 Datsun pick up truck loaded with cans and bottles with a worn down latino driver in his 50s cruising the Fig.
The point is. The latter example (older Latino in a can collecting car) tends to be more of the norm in that area than a college frat boy lurking in a drug/SW infested area. Cops profile the college frat kid being up to evil.
You and I profile everyday without knowing it. The L. A District Attorney office teaches their attorneys how to lessen the political incorrectness of profiling by using this example. "You go to a grocery store and see 3 lines with exactly three people waiting in each line, all buying exactly the same items. You see that in line #1, there are 3 elderly people in their 80s. In line 2, you see 3 disheveled vagrants each carrying over 100 coupons each. In line 3, you see 3 business men each staring at their watches with cash in hand. Which line will you go to?
The DA's office teaches that the majority of us will go to line #3 because we scan and quickly profile each group of people based upon our own personal prejudices, stereotype and popular media belief. To most of us urban dwellers, Line #1 and #2 will take a long uncomfortable time whereas line #3 will get us out quickly. That's profiling as taught in the (In)justice system.
Cruised the Blvd around 2 A.M. Empty for the most part but found two Sws in the Fairfax area close to the GC. One BSW and one WSW. Apparently they were together. Drove around the block and stopped at the intersection just as they were getting to the corner. The WSW approached my car. She looked around 22-25 yo and said her name was Princess. She quoted $. Asked her if she had a room and she said no. Gave me her digits and said she'd be around for a couple more hours. Called her and asked if she'd come to my place since I live like 10 min. away and told her I'd bring her back. She said she didn't want to leave her car there but she could meet me at my place for more $. Asked her how much and she said $$.5. I laughed and she said she could do it for $$. Said no and she said she'd come for $.6 no less. Told her I'd call her back and drove away. She was maybe a 7 or 8 but I thought $.6 was too much. I posted this in the Hollywood board too. Thought I'd re post here cause I've seen reports asking about Sunset in this board. Peace.
I haven't been on the boards in a while, but it's good to see great info. I agree with the "keep your mouth shut" advice. I was scared to shit one day that a cop caught me in the car with a sw, he didn't see anything, but sure made it seem like he did.
Kept asking me how much I paid for it, so that he'd tell me if I was getting ripped off. I never answered with anything. He kept playing the, "you're pissing me off, I would have let you go if you would have just been a man and answered my questions."
I never gave in, I figured, either way, I was fucked, but he let me go. I'm sure it was because he was patrol, otherwise, vice would have liked the arrest for their statistics.
Keep up the good info guys. Stay safe.
[QUOTE=Walter]I mainly hit Casa de Citas which is why I've been mongering so long here in Los Angeles but never got arrested and tagged a sex offender.
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Please tell me more about "Casa De Citas". PM me if you have to. Much thanks. Great info you have been providing.
BALDY CRUISER
There's a lot of mongering information I'd like to put here in terms of casa de citas and other fun venues. The major problem is...all of you are not really rookies and you know as well as I do that LE, Vice and anti-hobbyists are always lurking to look for intelligence to combat this hobby.
I'd love to start a dialogue off-board via PM or email but that still puts me, other hobbyists and the service providers in harm's way.
I don't know what the solution is.
[QUOTE=Baldy Cruiser][QUOTE=Walter]I mainly hit Casa de Citas which is why I've been mongering so long here in Los Angeles but never got arrested and tagged a sex offender.
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Please tell me more about "Casa De Citas". PM me if you have to. Much thanks. Great info you have been providing.
BALDY CRUISER[/QUOTE]
BC, it appears to be a site similar to Fling.com and other escort websites, only it is only in Spanish. I guess El Puerco doesn't monitor the Spanish speaking sites, because they are only frequented by illegals? Just Google it.
[QUOTE=Marlowe][QUOTE=Baldy Cruiser]
BC, it appears to be a site similar to Fling.com and other escort websites, only it is only in Spanish. I guess El Puerco doesn't monitor the Spanish speaking sites, because they are only frequented by illegals? Just Google it.[/QUOTE]
Thanks Marlowe.
BALDY
[QUOTE=Walter]I mainly hit Casa de Citas which is why I've been mongering so long here in Los Angeles but never got arrested and tagged a sex offender.[/QUOTE]What do you mean, "tagged as a sex offender" ?? I thought that was something that only happened to rapists, pedophiles and flashers, not ordinary mongers. Care to expand on that?