Yup, sounds like a typical Paradise experience! Last time I danced with Harmony the same thing happened, I had nowhere to shoot it and had to use my shirt.
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Yup, sounds like a typical Paradise experience! Last time I danced with Harmony the same thing happened, I had nowhere to shoot it and had to use my shirt.
So went to Paradise a couple of weeks ago to have a little fun. My mistake for going on a very slow day as Karina sat with me for about 30 minutes and didn't see many woman I was attracted to. Needless to say, Karina was sweet, but I wasn't interested in her at all.
The next girl that sat next to me was Gia. Nice curvy girl with nose ring and mouth ring. She talked me into a 3-4-1 and after the first song, gave me a menu. Little head talked and after about two songs, left satisfied. Probably won't dance with her again.
Was really looking for something different and ended up with what ever was left for a midshift UHM. Next time will think twice.
Anyone been to Monarchs lately? If so, has Indiana been working? She hasn't been on the RCs but I know she comes in late.
[QUOTE=Into N Out;1887624]Anyone been to Monarchs lately? If so, has Indiana been working? She hasn't been on the RCs but I know she comes in late.[/QUOTE]Nm. She was there last night.
What about older skinny guys?
[QUOTE=Into N Out;1879990]I'd say Paradise is definitely a sure shot place. If your friend is a younger half way decent looking guy, I'd also recommend seeing Indiana at Monarchs. She works almost every night (except fridays). She's been a sure shot thing, but she won't fuck older fat guys. She also brings all the essentials (COver, wipes, lube, etc.) FS in the 15-min VIP (.75) , and she's got a pretty nice body. It really depends on what day you go to paradise, though. PM me and I'll try to help you out.[/QUOTE]
Checked out Paradise after watching the Dodger game at a sportsbar. There were about 10 PL's and the ones I saw working were: Erica, Anjanna, Sativa, Veronica, Serenity, Sasha. Another site, said Jordan was working as well, but since I have never seen her before, I couldn't figure out which one was her. Veronica sits down next to me and starts chatting it up. If you like BBW's, she is definitely your girl. She is cute, but gets annoying and pushy for dances. Sativa appeared from the back from time to time after her usual bong hits, but she had probably made enough money for the day as she didn't come out for dances during the hour that I was there.
I stuck around and was approached by Serenity. I hadn't danced with her in quite some time and she told me that she took a year off. She looks great from the last time I remember seeing her. Took her for a 341 and she gave a nice CBJ / HJ combo. They offer 2 for 1 $20 topless dances now, but I am sure that the girls don't want to offer it as the house probably takes half of the $20.
If anyone can describe Jordan for me in detail, please PM me so I can look out for her next time. Thanks!
[QUOTE=AizenMyoo;1888385]What about older skinny guys?[/QUOTE]It doesn't hurt to try. She said she wouldn't fuck just anyone.
[QUOTE=Into N Out;1888584]It doesn't hurt to try. She said she wouldn't fuck just anyone.[/QUOTE]Dats what they all say; $ talks
I'm taking a break from reports.
Even this report will get copied and pasted.
It all goes here: [url]www.zbone.com/profile/datybj[/url]
Because the author of that profile has no life, and I probably fucked the girl he had a make-believe relationship with.
Not sure if zbone is behind it, or if it truly is a totally pathetic guy, but ya. It's not a bot, it's some guy who presses control-see and control-v in between jerk-off sessions to gay porn.
Goodbye for now. I'll still lurk around, so if you want to chat, pm me.
Into and out.
You put out the best reports here, it is a shame to see you go but I can understand.
Have fun out there!
Stopped by DVCOI recently at night, the line up was pretty poor. Maybe 20 girls working, and less than half falling in the even acceptable range, which is disappointing considering this is usually a spot for the better looking ladies in the area, especially compared to Paradise or Synn. Got a dance by a big boobed latina girl in topless (3 for 2) who's name I never got, full contact immediately and plenty of stick shifting. Watched the ladies on stage for a while and kept getting let down as none of the better looking ladies were getting on the stage, and since the stage dances go so long here, if you get a few bad ones in a row it sucks. (Does anyone know why they go so long? About every 2 dancers, the waitress would get on stage for like 5-10 minutes, there were about 10 working, mostly much more attractive than the dancers. It was becoming a long night of seeing unattractive ladies. Grabbed a couple more dances qucikly with whatever dancer was coming around at the time, one ok, one meh, was over it and went home.
Don't know if its been posted or not, but in my journeys here and talks with the ladies, I'm pretty confident dances are always 3 for 2, regardless of if the blue light special is announced and on, its just how the machines work. Can anyone else confirm this?
[QUOTE=Blueman22;1901436]Stopped by DVCOI recently at night, the line up was pretty poor. Maybe 20 girls working, and less than half falling in the even acceptable range, which is disappointing considering this is usually a spot for the better looking ladies in the area, especially compared to Paradise or Synn. Got a dance by a big boobed latina girl in topless (3 for 2) who's name I never got, full contact immediately and plenty of stick shifting. Watched the ladies on stage for a while and kept getting let down as none of the better looking ladies were getting on the stage, and since the stage dances go so long here, if you get a few bad ones in a row it sucks. (Does anyone know why they go so long? About every 2 dancers, the waitress would get on stage for like 5-10 minutes, there were about 10 working, mostly much more attractive than the dancers. It was becoming a long night of seeing unattractive ladies. Grabbed a couple more dances qucikly with whatever dancer was coming around at the time, one ok, one meh, was over it and went home.
Don't know if its been posted or not, but in my journeys here and talks with the ladies, I'm pretty confident dances are always 3 for 2, regardless of if the blue light special is announced and on, its just how the machines work. Can anyone else confirm this?[/QUOTE]If you go on Mondays the topless dances are 3 for 2 all day. Otherwise, only during blue lights as far as I have seen, but as you observed, the blue lights happen very frequently. Close to 50% of the time if not more often. I find this club to be wildly up and down as to talent and mileage and also believe that day shifts are much better for mileage as is generally true in strip clubs. There are fewer dancers and you don't expect the hotness quotient to equal the night shift, but there has usually been enough happy surprises waiting in the wings, and it doesn't cost much to sample. I've hardly been there lately but when I have I see an entrenched group of amazingly cute spinners working days who are better left to the voyeuristic pleasure of watching them on stage. Generally very poor choices for the dance booths. But I usually find a known sure thing fave or a happy surprise and rarely leave unsatisfied.
Got to disagree.
If you put the top five head to head (no pun intended) between DVCOI and Synn, most guys will go with Synn these days.
Try Synn on a Thursday day shift or night. Dance prices are cut and a 15 minute VIP for $75.
Stay Up,
Are Dawg.
[QUOTE=Blueman22;1901436]Stopped by DVCOI recently at night, the line up was pretty poor. Maybe 20 girls working, and less than half falling in the even acceptable range, which is disappointing considering this is usually a spot for the better looking ladies in the area, especially compared to Paradise or Synn. Got a dance by a big boobed latina girl in topless (3 for 2) who's name I never got, full contact immediately and plenty of stick shifting. Watched the ladies on stage for a while and kept getting let down as none of the better looking ladies were getting on the stage, and since the stage dances go so long here, if you get a few bad ones in a row it sucks. (Does anyone know why they go so long? About every 2 dancers, the waitress would get on stage for like 5-10 minutes, there were about 10 working, mostly much more attractive than the dancers. It was becoming a long night of seeing unattractive ladies. Grabbed a couple more dances qucikly with whatever dancer was coming around at the time, one ok, one meh, was over it and went home.
Don't know if its been posted or not, but in my journeys here and talks with the ladies, I'm pretty confident dances are always 3 for 2, regardless of if the blue light special is announced and on, its just how the machines work. Can anyone else confirm this?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=RDawg714;1902385]Got to disagree.
If you put the top five head to head (no pun intended) between DVCOI and Synn, most guys will go with Synn these days.
Try Synn on a Thursday day shift or night. Dance prices are cut and a 15 minute VIP for $75.
[/QUOTE]Good to know, I'll check it out again sometime soon, been a while since I went in there, last few times were pretty low quality and I got over it, worth another shot I suppose then.
Hey fellas, Me and a few buddies are going to be heading to either DV or Paradise during the daytime one of these upcoming Fridays as a sort of "pre-warm up" before we all head to Vegas together. I've always been a DV guy simply because it is such a great deal, but it really seems to me after reading many of the previous posts that Paradise is definitely more well known across the board with the strippers that they give more than just dances. It seems like only a small portion of the girls at DV would offer extras. What do you guys think, Should I head to Paradise for guaranteed extras or stick with DV? Also, how much should I be looking to spend at Paradise for extras and a few dances?
Thanks for any input guys.
[QUOTE=Bad112;1916434]Hey fellas, Me and a few buddies are going to be heading to either DV or Paradise during the daytime one of these upcoming Fridays as a sort of "pre-warm up" before we all head to Vegas together. I've always been a DV guy simply because it is such a great deal, but it really seems to me after reading many of the previous posts that Paradise is definitely more well known across the board with the strippers that they give more than just dances. It seems like only a small portion of the girls at DV would offer extras. What do you guys think, Should I head to Paradise for guaranteed extras or stick with DV? Also, how much should I be looking to spend at Paradise for extras and a few dances?
Thanks for any input guys.[/QUOTE]Once you do an afternoon at Paradise. You'll say f Vegas. Trust me, don't even go...spend you cash at COI instead. You'll know just how robbed you got in Vegas onthe way back.
So I saw the advertisements for Paradise on Halloween last week that said they were offering $100 VIP's and 25 dollar nudes. Since I started going there this year I have not seen them offer any specials other than the price of admission. So I made sure to plan a trip. Apparently I was not the only one who saw this because when I got there around 3 pm the place was packed. At least a lot more than the norm for a weekday afternoon.
Unfortunately my ATF was not working yesterday, so I decided to make this a talent hunting trip and abandon the VIP idea. And just to clarify, when they offer 25 dollar nudes, the dancers offer 2 for 1's and not the normal 3 for 1. Just be careful on this one. I can see some potential confusion there for regulars thinking their set was cut short.
Anyway, the first girl to approach was Shana. I checked the RTRC on Bonedin and surprisingly no info. She is a tall blonde Latina. Border lining on BBW but completely firm all over. Large all natural see cups. She has a pretty face, but I'm thinking she is in her mid to late 30's. So up close, you can definitely see she is no spring chicken. She Sat. Down and gave me the old rub on top of the shorts and chatted a bit. Thick accent, so every other word from me was, 'what?' I let her know I just got there and wanted to check things out, but she didn't go away like normal when a dancer is told this. She just kept rubbing away. This technique worked because after a couple stage shows we were on our way to the booths. This chick is very, very sensual. As a matter of fact, she was definitely the best dance set of the day for me! FFZ up top and bottom, FIV, and a little HJ action as well. She took it slow, which I prefer a dancer to do, and this made it all the better. The one problem I had was she asked for a tip at the end. The dance was so good; so I was going to tip her anyway. I just wasn't a fan of her asking for it.
I Sat. Back down for a good while, and I finally saw the famous Erica. I have heard the stories and wanted to see for myself. I can see what they are saying on Bonedin about her face. The years of dancing are starting to take there toll. On a side note, I saw her sister, and she looks a lot younger and fresh faced. The rest of the descriptions about Erica are spot on. Very petite spinner with large implants. Incredible grind in the back with a little under the shorts HJ. I get the feeling that if I asked, there could have been extras, but I got very turned off when I felt her breasts. I don't know if anyone has covered this, but when you feel her boobs, they don't feel like boobs. You're basically grabbing implant bags. And the problem is, they feel like implant bags! This girl has 0 fat on her, so it stands to reason that any natural boobs she may have been long gone from so much working out. All that is left are pure implants. This is a no go for me. After 2 sets I thanked her and Sat. Back down. No tip. Also, I should mention that I saw her stage show later, and she does this really cool Shakira routine. For a place that is known for half ass stage shows, this was a real gem.
After a while I wanted to wrap things up, so I went with my back up plan since my ATF wasn't there. I was thinking my best options were, Harmony (who looked pretty damn good by the way), Sativa, or Shay. Out of the 3 Shay was the hottest, and the first one to approach. I figured I would finish things off with her since she is one of the hottest girls working at this club IMHO. She looks very similar to Jenna Haze but with bottle blonde hair and without the giant gums. She is in damn good shape with be cups. Unfortunately I should have taken the warnings about her being business like more seriously. For example, I sometimes tell a dancer I am ready to spend all of my money on her, to flatter them. I normally get back something like "Aww, how sweet", or "You know just what to say to a girl". With this one I got back "How much do ya got? This probably should have been a red flag, but she is so hot, I went for it anyway. We went back to the booth, and it was just awkward. FFZ up top, but NFZ down below. She did go for the HJ, but she kept positioning herself for any kind of defense she could come up with. I wasn't trying to do too much, but it was obvious she was not really into it. So this just kind of turned me off. Should have negotiated up front. She said she normally works one day a week because she is an LVN as a day job, so I guess she does not really need to provide too much. Even though she is hot, I don't think I will repeat with her. I will just stick with my ATF.
Also, I want to add that they will be starting $100 VIP's on Wednesdays starting next week. So for any regular PL's to this place, you are probably going to have to re-evaluate your visiting schedules.
Sorry for the length of this, but I wanted to be as informative as possible.
[QUOTE=HungerGames34;1916820]So I saw the advertisements for Paradise on Halloween last week that said they were offering $100 VIP's and 25 dollar nudes. Since I started going there this year I have not seen them offer any specials other than the price of admission. So I made sure to plan a trip. Apparently I was not the only one who saw this because when I got there around 3 pm the place was packed. At least a lot more than the norm for a weekday afternoon.
Unfortunately my ATF was not working yesterday, so I decided to make this a talent hunting trip and abandon the VIP idea. And just to clarify, when they offer 25 dollar nudes, the dancers offer 2 for 1's and not the normal 3 for 1. Just be careful on this one. I can see some potential confusion there for regulars thinking their set was cut short.
Anyway, the first girl to approach was Shana. I checked the RTRC on Bonedin and surprisingly no info. She is a tall blonde Latina. Border lining on BBW but completely firm all over. Large all natural see cups. She has a pretty face, but I'm thinking she is in her mid to late 30's. So up close, you can definitely see she is no spring chicken. She Sat. Down and gave me the old rub on top of the shorts and chatted a bit. Thick accent, so every other word from me was, 'what?' I let her know I just got there and wanted to check things out, but she didn't go away like normal when a dancer is told this. She just kept rubbing away. This technique worked because after a couple stage shows we were on our way to the booths. This chick is very, very sensual. As a matter of fact, she was definitely the best dance set of the day for me! FFZ up top and bottom, FIV, and a little HJ action as well. She took it slow, which I prefer a dancer to do, and this made it all the better. The one problem I had was she asked for a tip at the end. The dance was so good; so I was going to tip her anyway. I just wasn't a fan of her asking for it.
I Sat. Back down for a good while, and I finally saw the famous Erica. I have heard the stories and wanted to see for myself. I can see what they are saying on Bonedin about her face. The years of dancing are starting to take there toll. On a side note, I saw her sister, and she looks a lot younger and fresh faced. The rest of the descriptions about Erica are spot on. Very petite spinner with large implants. Incredible grind in the back with a little under the shorts HJ. I get the feeling that if I asked, there could have been extras, but I got very turned off when I felt her breasts. I don't know if anyone has covered this, but when you feel her boobs, they don't feel like boobs. You're basically grabbing implant bags. And the problem is, they feel like implant bags! This girl has 0 fat on her, so it stands to reason that any natural boobs she may have been long gone from so much working out. All that is left are pure implants. This is a no go for me. After 2 sets I thanked her and Sat. Back down. No tip. Also, I should mention that I saw her stage show later, and she does this really cool Shakira routine. For a place that is known for half ass stage shows, this was a real gem.
After a while I wanted to wrap things up, so I went with my back up plan since my ATF wasn't there. I was thinking my best options were, Harmony (who looked pretty damn good by the way), Sativa, or Shay. Out of the 3 Shay was the hottest, and the first one to approach. I figured I would finish things off with her since she is one of the hottest girls working at this club IMHO. She looks very similar to Jenna Haze but with bottle blonde hair and without the giant gums. She is in damn good shape with be cups. Unfortunately I should have taken the warnings about her being business like more seriously. For example, I sometimes tell a dancer I am ready to spend all of my money on her, to flatter them. I normally get back something like "Aww, how sweet", or "You know just what to say to a girl". With this one I got back "How much do ya got? This probably should have been a red flag, but she is so hot, I went for it anyway. We went back to the booth, and it was just awkward. FFZ up top, but NFZ down below. She did go for the HJ, but she kept positioning herself for any kind of defense she could come up with. I wasn't trying to do too much, but it was obvious she was not really into it. So this just kind of turned me off. Should have negotiated up front. She said she normally works one day a week because she is an LVN as a day job, so I guess she does not really need to provide too much. Even though she is hot, I don't think I will repeat with her. I will just stick with my ATF.
Also, I want to add that they will be starting $100 VIP's on Wednesdays starting next week. So for any regular PL's to this place, you are probably going to have to re-evaluate your visiting schedules.
Sorry for the length of this, but I wanted to be as informative as possible.[/QUOTE]Its good to see this thread firing up again and damn what a great post HungerGames! Keep them coming and keep them LONG form. With all the reverence for "seniors" on this site, more often than not it is the new posters who provide the most informative reports if for no other reason that they have fresh energy for posting. I'm seeing a decent amount of good posts from new and lower count posters lately that are at least temporarily energizing these California threads after what seems like months of hibernation.
Its great to see what I've long been expecting finally starting to happen. That is Paradise finally offering more competitive pricing and providing VIP specials for guys like me who would never begin to consider paying the standard $300 plus to get worked over in the VIP. Its just sex for Chrissake! DVCOI has had reasonable VIP prices since it opened, the new Monarch's is reasonable, and this year Paradise's sister club Synn has been very successful offering bargain dances and VIPs on Thursdays and someone there told me that's now extended to Sunday too, but I can't confirm that.
Paradise has been a holdout. But maybe because most of us hold out from paying the preposterous full price for VIP, they are figuring out how the law of supply and demand works for the first time. Extend these promotional prices to all nights and the dollars will be flying with the jizz. And most of us won't even mind adding a decent tip for a good ride. The dancers will take home more money than ever before but yeah, they'll be working harder and maybe get behind on their texting.
I love your description of Shay looking like Jenna Haze without the giant gums. Shay is interesting. Like Jenna in her earlier days at least, she wants to come off as caucasian but if you look hard enough you can see her being latina. I went a couple of rounds with her some months ago but I'd have to read my review of her on Bonedin to remember what happened. I do remember being pleasantly surprised. The prior reviews had warned that she's not very sociable and is businesslike. With that in mind I was able to take her by surprise with my conversational angle and we hit it off. She minimized the commercialism. I do steer away from any mention of money (even as a joke) when talking to these girls cause it does tend to bring out their inner shark. I made a rare night shift visit a couple of weeks ago. I don't know most of the night girls. Most of them couldn't hold a conversation without tossing out a high price menu that I had not solicited. They fail the interview. The day girls are more laid back. One girl was pretty hot top to bottom and we were getting along OK until she realized I wasn't a VIP candidate. She announced that "she's not a prostitute". Then she kind of picked up on the absurdity of her own statement and added even more absurdly, "except when I am a prostitute I need to be very well paid". Reminds me of a few very old jokes.
I'm crazy about Erica. My attractions begin with a beautiful face. I can't come close to agreeing with the harsh criticism she's received on the subject of her face. I don't think she's got a beautiful face, but she's got the exotic feline latina eyes and she can portray female lust with more power than almost any dancer I've ever known. When she's looking at you like that and you know what's coming it definitely piles up bonus points for her visuals! I won't put a Miss Paradise crown on her head but all things considered, she's more than hot enough for me and I'm not all that easy to impress. What makes her dances truly unique and special is she is capable of adding intense GFE elements that are rarely experienced in strip clubs. Its easier to get laid in clubs than to get the kind of passionate ferocious make out that this chica can get locked into. LOL!
The last time I saw her I had come from an earlier stop at DVCOI where my only activity was engaging in hardcore DATY with a very cute young African-American spinner. Not something I'm interested in doing in strip clubs anymore and hell, I don't even enjoy more than a couple of minutes of besitos to the area with a civilian or gf, but this DV girl served it up and it was tasty and I ate heartily. Thing is, I departed for Paradise without even washing my face, rinsing my mouth or chewing a piece of gum or a mint. I am generally not this much of a disgusting pig but I just flat out was on this particular day. I just didn't even think about it until it was too late. Not long after Erica is getting the full measure of my earlier activity at DV when she attacked my face and mouth with shock and awe. Pobrecita!
[QUOTE=TheCamel;1917919]Its good to see this thread firing up again and damn what a great post HungerGames! Keep them coming and keep them LONG form. With all the reverence for "seniors" on this site, more often than not it is the new posters who provide the most informative reports if for no other reason that they have fresh energy for posting. I'm seeing a decent amount of good posts from new and lower count posters lately that are at least temporarily energizing these California threads after what seems like months of hibernation.
Its great to see what I've long been expecting finally starting to happen. That is Paradise finally offering more competitive pricing and providing VIP specials for guys like me who would never begin to consider paying the standard $300 plus to get worked over in the VIP. Its just sex for Chrissake! DVCOI has had reasonable VIP prices since it opened, the new Monarch's is reasonable, and this year Paradise's sister club Synn has been very successful offering bargain dances and VIPs on Thursdays and someone there told me that's now extended to Sunday too, but I can't confirm that.
Paradise has been a holdout. But maybe because most of us hold out from paying the preposterous full price for VIP, they are figuring out how the law of supply and demand works for the first time. Extend these promotional prices to all nights and the dollars will be flying with the jizz. And most of us won't even mind adding a decent tip for a good ride. The dancers will take home more money than ever before but yeah, they'll be working harder and maybe get behind on their texting.
I love your description of Shay looking like Jenna Haze without the giant gums. Shay is interesting. Like Jenna in her earlier days at least, she wants to come off as caucasian but if you look hard enough you can see her being latina. I went a couple of rounds with her some months ago but I'd have to read my review of her on Bonedin to remember what happened. I do remember being pleasantly surprised. The prior reviews had warned that she's not very sociable and is businesslike. With that in mind I was able to take her by surprise with my conversational angle and we hit it off. She minimized the commercialism. I do steer away from any mention of money (even as a joke) when talking to these girls cause it does tend to bring out their inner shark. I made a rare night shift visit a couple of weeks ago. I don't know most of the night girls. Most of them couldn't hold a conversation without tossing out a high price menu that I had not solicited. They fail the interview. The day girls are more laid back. One girl was pretty hot top to bottom and we were getting along OK until she realized I wasn't a VIP candidate. She announced that "she's not a prostitute". Then she kind of picked up on the absurdity of her own statement and added even more absurdly, "except when I am a prostitute I need to be very well paid". Reminds me of a few very old jokes.
I'm crazy about Erica. My attractions begin with a beautiful face. I can't come close to agreeing with the harsh criticism she's received on the subject of her face. I don't think she's got a beautiful face, but she's got the exotic feline latina eyes and she can portray female lust with more power than almost any dancer I've ever known. When she's looking at you like that and you know what's coming it definitely piles up bonus points for her visuals! I won't put a Miss Paradise crown on her head but all things considered, she's more than hot enough for me and I'm not all that easy to impress. What makes her dances truly unique and special is she is capable of adding intense GFE elements that are rarely experienced in strip clubs. Its easier to get laid in clubs than to get the kind of passionate ferocious make out that this chica can get locked into. LOL!
The last time I saw her I had come from an earlier stop at DVCOI where my only activity was engaging in hardcore DATY with a very cute young African-American spinner. Not something I'm interested in doing in strip clubs anymore and hell, I don't even enjoy more than a couple of minutes of besitos to the area with a civilian or gf, but this DV girl served it up and it was tasty and I ate heartily. Thing is, I departed for Paradise without even washing my face, rinsing my mouth or chewing a piece of gum or a mint. I am generally not this much of a disgusting pig but I just flat out was on this particular day. I just didn't even think about it until it was too late. Not long after Erica is getting the full measure of my earlier activity at DV when she attacked my face and mouth with shock and awe. Pobrecita![/QUOTE]Hahahaha.
Secondhand cooch ftw!
Went out with a friend a week a go, wanted to go to Synn, but he insisted on cheap dances at DV, so I relented rather than complain, I mean boobs right? Was pleasantly surprised. I guess this place does have ups and downs, my last post it was awful, this time, there was a pretty good and big crowd of girls. Oddly as a side note, when I arrived around 10 pm, about 3/4 of the patrons were Asian, and the place was filled. There is usually a good mix of patron's ethnicity here, I didn't realize till my friend pointed it out, that basically almost everyone was Asian except us and a few other people. Again this is patrons, not dancers.
It was pretty crowded, and took a bit to get my first dance, from a certainly not in my top 5 choices of girls, but she was available and it was busy so I took it. It was from a South Indian looking girl (though could have been mixed indian-latina maybe?) with medium implants, as soon as we go towards the topless room, she takes me to a backmost booth, and I know the deal with those booths, immediately she grabs and asks to do HJ. It was my first dance of the night, so I didn't take her up on it. Ended up with a full contact half-assed dance and she had awful, awful, rock hard implants. Unfortunately can't remember her name, which sucks, cause I forgot almost my dancers names that day, and should have posted earlier while I still remembered, so sorry.
At this point, its about 11, and half the dances of the huge group from 10 are gone and replaced with other dancers it seems, coming on for the late shift, not quite as good as the first batch. Asian patrons are down to about 1/4 or less at this point, they all left too, maybe they knew something I didn't. Got an full contact but unremarkable dance from an unremarkable girl, after disappointment there, grabbed a big boobed, big assed latina who was just walking by, for a dance. Thought the boobs were real, nope, very bad and off center implants, and her ass was insanely muscular, must be butt implant type ass. I think it was Erica (sp? Nonetheless, good dance, full contact, nice ass, even though kinda fake, awful boobs, medium stick shift, could have asked for extras easily, but didn't.
Hung out a bunch more to see the girls on stage, and who was available for dances, again the place was packed, and lots of dancers, but many were just chilling out or in the back rooms or against the walls, waiting out the night. There were about 6-8 african american dancers there, of various good looks, who seemed to be almost the only ones going on stage for some reason, and stage dances were again strangely long here, with some girls on stage for almost 10 minutes that night? What the hell. Anyways got one more dance, from a bit drunk latina girl, who immediately offered extras, but she was drunk and smelt bad so I declined, and ended up with a shitty dance. We left after that.
[QUOTE=Blueman22;1919231]
Hung out a bunch more to see the girls on stage, and who was available for dances, again the place was packed, and lots of dancers, but many were just chilling out or in the back rooms or against the walls, waiting out the night. There were about 6-8 african american dancers there, of various good looks, who seemed to be almost the only ones going on stage for some reason, and stage dances were again strangely long here, with some girls on stage for almost 10 minutes that night? What the hell. Anyways got one more dance, from a bit drunk latina girl, who immediately offered extras, but she was drunk and smelt bad so I declined, and ended up with a shitty dance. We left after that.[/QUOTE]The reason that DV dancers get so much stage time is simply that the stage songs are not tied to the length of lap dances. The length of private lap dances are regulated by the machines, not by what the DJ is playing in the showroom. So the songs don't get cut and the girls get to really work it on stage. This is one of the elements that I really like about the DV clubs that are equipped with the lap dance money machines. In other clubs if the manager decides that they'll be timing lap dances at 2:00, then the girls will only have 4:00 on stage if they perform for 2 songs.
So I went to paradise today after much debate. Over the past couple years, I have sampled a dozen or so girls off BP / Redbook and even a few from el clasificado. Mostly, they have been disappointments. Pics are fake or outdated and service generally sucks. On top of all that, you run the risk of running into a sting. So, with that in mind, and my previous and memorable experience at paradise a few weeks back, I decided to return. I'm glad I did.
I show up before noon saving a few bucks. I walk in and immediately look for Michelle. There were around 7 gals and Michelle quickly stood out. I sit but soon after, a young latina catches my eye. She's just my type. A caderona (big hips) with Jet black hair and those feline eyes that I believe the camel has spoken of. She comes over and offers a dance. I tell her that I'm waiting for Michelle but I add that she is very pretty and reminds me of an ex girlfriend who dumped me in high school. She rubs me lightly on the crotch and starts to run her other hand through my hair, which was more of a turn on for me. I didn't know what to do and asked her If she enjoys besitos. She says of course and talks me into a 3 for 1.
This girl is amazing. I don't want to give too much info, but she was satisfying. Soft pillowy chichis, maybe a bcup. BTW, ill take small naturals over hard implants any day. I get the feeling she enjoys to be rimmed and receiving daty. Light frenching and very sensual over all. I was so heated I swore that I would come back to take her for a VIP. Maybe nxt Wed. Very pretty girl, she kind of looks like Kobe Bryant's wife's younger and less attractive little sister. But still hot.
According to the [URL]bonedin.com[/URL] site, one pl mention and I quote " No I said my first time bare was Sativa! And I noticed painful burning when I pee." As some might know, Sativa is the bareback at paradise. She offer me BBFS a few times for the VIP but decline due to lack of funds and only had regular lap dance. I do notice she does many vips so for the hundreds of guys who VIP her, I would take a visit to you local clinic. I know she is not the only one which may include erica, jordan, and debra.
Decided to venture away from my usual HT and Kings activities and check out Paradise after work last night (Fri).
Apparently I chose the absolute worst time to go. 6 pm is their shift change so aside from about 3-4 guys hiding in the shadows waiting around, the place was a ghost town. They even waived cover and I got a free water out of it.
The only girl working was Isis. Very beautiful, sweet girl to talk to. I really enjoyed her company. Since there was no one else available I opted for a dance with her to see how it goes. She is a low mileage type girl who gives a very run on the mill style lap dance. I made the best of it and just admired how beautiful this chick was. After the deed was done, I left this pathetic scene and got my kicks around the corner at Kings.
Something about sitting in an empty strip club waiting around for an hour for more girls to show just didn't seem appealing to me. Isis told me it would be like that for at least another hour.
Was ISIS a thing little thing with a tattoo on her stomach? There was a girl at Rogue in the valley that went by that handle, I would love to see her again.
I remember her being so small in the waste that I could fit it in between both of my hands.
[QUOTE=EuphoriaSeeker;1924326]Decided to venture away from my usual HT and Kings activities and check out Paradise after work last night (Fri).
Apparently I chose the absolute worst time to go. 6 pm is their shift change so aside from about 3-4 guys hiding in the shadows waiting around, the place was a ghost town. They even waived cover and I got a free water out of it.
The only girl working was Isis. Very beautiful, sweet girl to talk to. I really enjoyed her company. Since there was no one else available I opted for a dance with her to see how it goes. She is a low mileage type girl who gives a very run on the mill style lap dance. I made the best of it and just admired how beautiful this chick was. After the deed was done, I left this pathetic scene and got my kicks around the corner at Kings.
Something about sitting in an empty strip club waiting around for an hour for more girls to show just didn't seem appealing to me. Isis told me it would be like that for at least another hour.[/QUOTE]
I've only tried it out twice, but DV seems to be a good destination on Sunday afternoon. Vets know they used to open only for the night shift on Sundays until a few months ago. Night shifts are insane with tons of dancers and no place to sit because the club is full of cheapass looky-lous taking advantage of totally free entry until 8 PM. Not even the $10 entertainment fee usually charged with a "free admission" coupon. The newly open afternoon shift is pretty crowded too, but not like occasional SRO night conditions. Today there were not many dancers. The other time I tried out Sunday afternoon had many more and hotter dancers.
Today looked pretty bleak as the talent goes but my most reliable closer eventually showed up so it all went fucking excellent. Looking for some foreplay I got a couple of topless dances with a tiny spinner using the handle Tender. Tight natural spinner body and definitely not for the BBW boys, but butterface for sure. Probably late 20's, white or born in the USA latina (only because she understood some spanish). Skin is kind of rough all over and she tries to please but skills are not polished. Still it was delightful to molest her for a couple of 2 for 1's with plenty of NASCAR to move me down the track.
DVCOI is definitely THE bargain club in SoCal but today was just ridiculous. First, all the DVs increase dance length by 30% on Sunday. The dances are already longer than the competing clubs at normal length. And today they add in regular 2 for 1 (NOT 3 for 2) blue lights though not sure if that is standard on Sunday. So a lousy $20 gets you 6-8 minutes in the topless booths.
Did 2 of these with Tender so I'm $40 down and $150 hard! Next its another 1st time sighting and encounter with Raven. 30 something bottle blonde but it looks natural cause she looks like a Scandanavian Amazon in her fuck-me pumps. She insists though that she's half Filipina. Hearing the word made me see that in her but you won't until you hear her say it. Pretty face, nice body but just a couple of pounds overfed. Boobs are fake but take it from a fake hater, they are beautiful to behold. The implants only reveal themselves through touch. Only did one 2 for 1 with her. Decent dance with some NASCAR and menu offered in topless but I declined. $60 down and $220 hard and ready to blast.
Now its my closer. One of the 2 most reliable (FOR ME. YMMV) at this club. I follow Saxbeat's old rule (from Zbone when it was the club site that mattered) in this kind of stripclub reporting. When you get lucky with a P.S.E provider you either name the dancer or describe the action, not both. I'm going with the description here. She's no mystery though, known to all DV vets as a generous provider. The only thing that varies in the YMMV equation with her is the degree of nasty and what she charges. Maybe because we met and hit it off when she was a new dancer she did it all for me and never asked for a tip. Over time I started volunteering modest tips out of guilt and gratitude.
Would have taken her to the VIP if I saw her early. But being close to the money shot when I first saw her, we stick to the topless. One 2 for 1, BBBJ. I reach in my pocket for tissues for her to clean up with as I'm thinking that I made a mess since she finished me with her hand with my blaster a half foot from her beautiful head. But she says don't bother with the tissues. She caught it in her mouth and she's disposed of it the way the best girls do! Tipped her $40 only because it was just one 2 for 1. Otherwise would have tipped more.
So final tally: $120 out of pocket and $350 worth of XXX satisfaction. DV is so up and down, but always easy on the strip club budget.
[QUOTE=Dgoesinyours;1925069]Was ISIS a thing little thing with a tattoo on her stomach? There was a girl at Rogue in the valley that went by that handle, I would love to see her again.
I remember her being so small in the waste that I could fit it in between both of my hands.[/QUOTE]Nothing "little" about Isis. Probably above average height for a latina. Banging but not bodacious body. Really just right. Very beautiful girl. Unfortunately the description of her dance mileage in EuphoriaSeeker's report is the universal experience reported on the various websites, and my experience as well. She's real nice, real beautiful, but she just does not put out at least for anyone who has ever written a report about her.
I studied this thread so hard wondering how I could possibly bear several days with fambly around TG that I dreamt about it early last week. In my dream, Joey had been at Paradise all day with little to middling to show for it. She was the second or third to introduce herself to me during shift change (meaning the others hadn't shown up yet, and the first two were thicker than I like). Cool girl with the right type of body, stuff in common, sure why not a few 3 for 1's? Somewhere during the 2nd set my finger brushed her rear entry (only because I couldn't reach the front), and she said "that feels good." Soon I was practicing for bowling with my fambly later in the week as I was 2-3 knuckles deep. The heat and moisture from the front was apparent through my pants, and she was showing her pleasure between our lips. I said I'd love to do more but that I wanted to pay her not the club. She went to get a cover, and the bar wench assailed me to buy a drink (which I did and should not have). Joey returned and the magnificence ensued. My sensitive part being several inches past her tightest part, two of her dam releases cascaded over the waterfall while I was merely enjoying myself. Shortly after the second one, she looked back at me like YTF hasn't Trevi started flowing yet. My non-verbals must have been perfect, because she smiled and leaned in for a kiss. I'm slightly proud to say that even in such a state of flagrante delicto my romantic side comes through. Her kiss and new leaning position was what it took to start Trevi up again. Standard price for the 4 three for ones plus a Benj. Just be smarter than me in your dream when the bar wench arrives afterward to collect for the drink and don't be struggling to conceal the trash in one fist.
When I awoke I was only halfway across my transcont flight.
Cheers, blokes. If anything seems right about my dream, treat Joey well. As thanks, seniors PM for advice in the 407,813 or 321 or check my posts.
What a dream! I need to have more like this and not be so sleep deprived! Thanks for sharing.
The Tall Man.
[QUOTE=WJzipper;1942463]I studied this thread so hard wondering how I could possibly bear several days with fambly around TG that I dreamt about it early last week. In my dream, Joey had been at Paradise all day with little to middling to show for it. She was the second or third to introduce herself to me during shift change (meaning the others hadn't shown up yet, and the first two were thicker than I like). Cool girl with the right type of body, stuff in common, sure why not a few 3 for 1's? Somewhere during the 2nd set my finger brushed her rear entry (only because I couldn't reach the front), and she said "that feels good." Soon I was practicing for bowling with my fambly later in the week as I was 2-3 knuckles deep. The heat and moisture from the front was apparent through my pants, and she was showing her pleasure between our lips. I said I'd love to do more but that I wanted to pay her not the club. She went to get a cover, and the bar wench assailed me to buy a drink (which I did and should not have). Joey returned and the magnificence ensued. My sensitive part being several inches past her tightest part, two of her dam releases cascaded over the waterfall while I was merely enjoying myself. Shortly after the second one, she looked back at me like YTF hasn't Trevi started flowing yet. My non-verbals must have been perfect, because she smiled and leaned in for a kiss. I'm slightly proud to say that even in such a state of flagrante delicto my romantic side comes through. Her kiss and new leaning position was what it took to start Trevi up again. Standard price for the 4 three for ones plus a Benj. Just be smarter than me in your dream when the bar wench arrives afterward to collect for the drink and don't be struggling to conceal the trash in one fist.
When I awoke I was only halfway across my transcont flight.
Cheers, blokes. If anything seems right about my dream, treat Joey well. As thanks, seniors PM for advice in the 407,813 or 321 or check my posts.[/QUOTE]
I'm confused...
I haven't been to DVCOI in, like, forever, and I'm seeing reports that seem to imply that the standard lap dance price out on the floor is now $20. Is that true? It used to be $10, right? I know they have all kinds of specials and blue lights and stuff that are a good deal, but it's the standard lap price I'm wondering about.
Thanks.
[QUOTE=Jerikson40;1951828]I'm confused...
I haven't been to DVCOI in, like, forever, and I'm seeing reports that seem to imply that the standard lap dance price out on the floor is now $20. Is that true? It used to be $10, right? I know they have all kinds of specials and blue lights and stuff that are a good deal, but it's the standard lap price I'm wondering about.
Thanks.[/QUOTE]The standard lap dance, meaning the topless area is still 10 dollars. And when they run the blue light special you would pay 20 dollars and you should be recieving 3 songs fo 20 dollars.
Stopped by COI in the afternoon, Paradise was pretty low key, but Harmony was back. Said she'd had a little girl who is now 2 months old, mama is no worse for wear, still looking great and giving great 3 for 1. Also did a session with Vanessa.
Then I cruised by DVCOI to investigate those recent reports of nice Sundays. Will confirm. Although there were a whole lot of guys there for relatively few gals in the early pm, I still caught some stellar dances from little latina Carson and a stunningly gorgeous white gal whose name escapes me. A lovely way to spend a sunny Sunday. Later I stopped by Alhambra for a legit Chinese foot massage. Just what the doctor ordered.
V.
[QUOTE=Vengo;1958140]Stopped by COI in the afternoon, Paradise was pretty low key, but Harmony was back. Said she'd had a little girl who is now 2 months old, mama is no worse for wear, still looking great and giving great 3 for 1. Also did a session with Vanessa.
Then I cruised by DVCOI to investigate those recent reports of nice Sundays. Will confirm. Although there were a whole lot of guys there for relatively few gals in the early pm, I still caught some stellar dances from little latina Carson and a stunningly gorgeous white gal whose name escapes me. A lovely way to spend a sunny Sunday. Later I stopped by Alhambra for a legit Chinese foot massage. Just what the doctor ordered.
V.[/QUOTE]I went to dvcoi on a Sunday night a few weeks ago. It was crowded as hell. Standing room only, and the ratio of chicks to dicks was not favorable. Also seemed like there we're more pole cleaners / waitresses than there were dancers. And they were much cuter to boot!
Was back in NYC this past week and experienced my first actual peep show. It was kind of fun. I mentioned to a fuck buddy and she thought it would be cool to experience it together. Are there any live peep shows left in So. Cal?
[QUOTE=LargeEss;1967463]Was back in NYC this past week and experienced my first actual peep show. It was kind of fun. I mentioned to a fuck buddy and she thought it would be cool to experience it together. Are there any live peep shows left in So. Cal?[/QUOTE]There is place on Lankershiem called Venus Fair.
Was at Paradise on NY Eve and NY day and both days seemed to have a strange vibe to them. Relatively few girls and while they all made the rounds and sat next to me and chatted, none of them gave me the nascar play and promised fun in the 3 4 1 like usual. Also, it seemed like the mgr / owner in the back room kept coming out and checking the booths to see who was there and what was going on. I have never seen that before .1st time that I had left the place shaking my head and wondering what happened. Did they get busted recently or? Maybe just an off couple of days due to the holiday.
[QUOTE=Harleydudz;1974965]Was at Paradise on NY Eve and NY day and both days seemed to have a strange vibe to them. Relatively few girls and while they all made the rounds and sat next to me and chatted, none of them gave me the nascar play and promised fun in the 3 4 1 like usual. Also, it seemed like the mgr / owner in the back room kept coming out and checking the booths to see who was there and what was going on. I have never seen that before .1st time that I had left the place shaking my head and wondering what happened. Did they get busted recently or? Maybe just an off couple of days due to the holiday.[/QUOTE]I was also there mid to late afternoon on New Year's Day and a couple of other times around the holidays. I also get a sense that something is just off in the joint. For me it wasn't a question of managerial scrutiny or any mileage deficits. It was all pretty much business as usual for me in the booths and $100 VIPs and I got all the wild elephant love I could handle and actually more than I wanted. But the dancers overall seem to be out of sorts and on NY Day most spent more time hiding in the back than hustling on the club floor. I know that's not uncommon but I thought it was more than usual with plenty of qualified boners and wallets in the house waiting for female companionship.
My own speculation and it is nothing but that. I don't have any reliable insiders feeding me anything better than my own gut speculation, but I think many girls are unhappy with the downward pressure on dance prices that we're seeing now, and also I wonder if the fact that virtually every regular dancer in the COI clubs now have their official reputations up in glowing neon on these websites and most particularly bonedin is a source of discomfort for them. Well, I'm sure it is for most, but the question is how much discomfort. We've been reviewing COI dancers for more than 15 years on the internet but its never been organized the way bonedin sets it out. Click the dancer icon for a club and every name comes up and every review and comment about her in gruesome detail (guilty here!) is easily accessible. What they're doing for how much is now known to every other dancer in the joint and if you thought dancers share their menus with other dancers then you haven't been around very much. And then there's everyone else in their world having access to this easy intel. No search engine required. COI dancers have by far the highest percentage of review coverage on that site and only a handful of Paradise dancers aren't reviewed explicitly.
Of course the management officially plays dumb to what goes on in the club but the denial is less credible than before since they supply the RTRCs and even post ads for the site on their walls. They apparently can't resist the market pressure but there's a cost to both the girls and the managers for them to be so easily on top of each girl's menu and reputation. Perhaps the recent development of Paradise and Synn posting more reliable RTRCs to their own websites is in part an effort to wean their customers off of bonedin since you can't comment on any of the dancers or anything at all publicly on the clubs' proprietary websites. Again I don't know. Just speculating, but seems like sphincters are tight these days in Paradise and in other COI clubs to a lesser extent. Of course I don't mean that literally!
[QUOTE=TheCamel;1975044]I was also there mid to late afternoon on New Year's Day and a couple of other times around the holidays. I also get a sense that something is just off in the joint. For me it wasn't a question of managerial scrutiny or any mileage deficits. It was all pretty much business as usual for me in the booths and $100 VIPs and I got all the wild elephant love I could handle and actually more than I wanted. But the dancers overall seem to be out of sorts and on NY Day most spent more time hiding in the back than hustling on the club floor. I know that's not uncommon but I thought it was more than usual with plenty of qualified boners and wallets in the house waiting for female companionship.
My own speculation and it is nothing but that. I don't have any reliable insiders feeding me anything better than my own gut speculation, but I think many girls are unhappy with the downward pressure on dance prices that we're seeing now, and also I wonder if the fact that virtually every regular dancer in the COI clubs now have their official reputations up in glowing neon on these websites and most particularly bonedin is a source of discomfort for them. Well, I'm sure it is for most, but the question is how much discomfort. We've been reviewing COI dancers for more than 15 years on the internet but its never been organized the way bonedin sets it out. Click the dancer icon for a club and every name comes up and every review and comment about her in gruesome detail (guilty here!) is easily accessible. What they're doing for how much is now known to every other dancer in the joint and if you thought dancers share their menus with other dancers then you haven't been around very much. And then there's everyone else in their world having access to this easy intel. No search engine required. COI dancers have by far the highest percentage of review coverage on that site and only a handful of Paradise dancers aren't reviewed explicitly.
Of course the management officially plays dumb to what goes on in the club but the denial is less credible than before since they supply the RTRCs and even post ads for the site on their walls. They apparently can't resist the market pressure but there's a cost to both the girls and the managers for them to be so easily on top of each girl's menu and reputation. Perhaps the recent development of Paradise and Synn posting more reliable RTRCs to their own websites is in part an effort to wean their customers off of bonedin since you can't comment on any of the dancers or anything at all publicly on the clubs' proprietary websites. Again I don't know. Just speculating, but seems like sphincters are tight these days in Paradise and in other COI clubs to a lesser extent. Of course I don't mean that literally![/QUOTE]I would agree with your assessment of the club scene. It is just that I had never seen that guy come out 3 different times in an hour to check the booths and the girls did stay in the back most of the time.
The careless posting on bonedin of every deed that goes on in these clubs is very much to blame here, but it all really started with that fag who was copying and pasting reviews from here onto there. Those folks really need to be more subtle about what they post. It doesn't take much to become a member to that site and, once you are, all that info is opened up for you.
It's a double edged sword.
[QUOTE=StormShadow;1976337]The careless posting on bonedin of every deed that goes on in these clubs is very much to blame here, but it all really started with that fag who was copying and pasting reviews from here onto there. Those folks really need to be more subtle about what they post. It doesn't take much to become a member to that site and, once you are, all that info is opened up for you.
It's a double edged sword.[/QUOTE]There has been not so subtle public posting of deeds that have gone on in strip clubs for many years before bonedin, whether it was on zbone, this forum, or sfredbook (for SF clubs). It doesn't matter whether they are explicit or use code words like "high mileage" or UHM, the readers of these forums know what they mean. Blaming these boards is misguided. I agree with TheCamel's viewpoint. These boards were intended to be a source of information for customers, which the clubs wanted (maybe not the dancers), but had some unintended consequences. Don't blame the boards for these consequences or "careless posting" or "that fag who was copying and pasting reviews from here onto there." That's to be expected for any public internet forum.
Let's face it, in this day and age you have very little protection from unintended re-posting. Just google your "nom de plume" from this board and you'll find other archives that contain your writings. It really doesn't matter what's said on this or any other site, whether it's in code or Blatant. LE knows what goes on in these places. I have several friends in LE and they know explicitly the " Bad Things" people do in all facets of this hobby; It's tolerated until the surrounding community complains en masse or out of bounds behavior occurs at these establishments, (Gang activity, Drug dealings, violence. Etc. Etc). You are more apt to get a 502 after leaving these places, then getting popped inside for indecent behavior.
Baggens.
[QUOTE=buddhahead;1977056]There has been not so subtle public posting of deeds that have gone on in strip clubs for many years before bonedin, whether it was on zbone, this forum, or sfredbook (for SF clubs). It doesn't matter whether they are explicit or use code words like "high mileage" or UHM, the readers of these forums know what they mean. Blaming these boards is misguided. I agree with TheCamel's viewpoint. These boards were intended to be a source of information for customers, which the clubs wanted (maybe not the dancers), but had some unintended consequences. Don't blame the boards for these consequences or "careless posting" or "that fag who was copying and pasting reviews from here onto there." That's to be expected for any public internet forum.[/QUOTE]