The Raleigh area "Sugar Bowl" (SA, WYP, SD4 ME)

[QUOTE=DfwPussyEater;4823464]Afternoon all, First of all Thank to all whom shared info & review with me on this SB. I have my own report on SouthernBelle after I made my phone connection: She is asking For $200 for G&M and $600 for PPM. Everything is covered. She is Not willing to host because of her situation to her living son at home. So, I won't proceed to meet her terms frankly I find her expectation way out of my range. Happy Hunting all.[/QUOTE]She didn't ask for anything to meet "for coffee", though of course I did pick up the tab at the Starbucks we met at. We had a nice 15-20 minute chat, we parted ways, that was it.

[QUOTE=VincentCor74;4823597]Girls list platonic to see if guys will give them something for nothing.[/QUOTE]Two girls told me they put "platonic" to filter out the guys whose initial contact include explicit sex requests and lowball numbers.

[QUOTE=VincentCor74;4734525]My social media chat is overwhelming, right now. I honestly can't keep straight which girl I'm talking to. I'm creating a spreadsheet. Not joking.

Dancers, salon girls, waitresses, bored and broke college girls. I think the tide has turned in our favor.

I'm just saying, if you don't use burner social media accounts you should be creating them and active.

DON'T DM me, yet!

If any are open to multiple arrangements, I WILL ask and report back / share, of course.

I'm all about generosity, after all. Otherwise I wouldn't be a sugar daddy. RIGHT? Bwahahahahaha[/QUOTE]Care to share, please DM me.

For what it's worth.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/431617bc-b03f-4d6d-9b66-d67dc1852d36[/URL]

She contacted me first. Got digits, then went bizarre. Friend needed to meet with us first, started changing the location, time, etc. Ghost. Friend appeared hotter.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/73d1e1b1-d5d8-4008-980d-b99718f98915[/URL]

Got digits and started chatting. Then she goes off on how horny guys are.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/aa5965bd-a3bd-450c-a455-45503a6e8607[/URL]

Got digits and a few messages then ghost.

Texted with this 'girl', she had a Pennsylvania area code but her story was that she just moved to the area recently and wanted a fwb situation. Booked a room and got ghosted. Checked back on her page, says she's in Atlanta now. Are these girls paid trolls from Secret Benefits just trying to keep guys signing up? She never asked for cashapp / venmo, I'm trying to figure the angle here.

[URL]https://www.secretbenefits.com/app/profile/1359f8d7a7f4291a[/URL]

[QUOTE=AzBadger7;4825494]Texted with this 'girl', she had a Pennsylvania area code but her story was that she just moved to the area recently and wanted a fwb situation. Booked a room and got ghosted. Checked back on her page, says she's in Atlanta now. Are these girls paid trolls from Secret Benefits just trying to keep guys signing up? She never asked for cashapp / venmo, I'm trying to figure the angle here.

[URL]https://www.secretbenefits.com/app/profile/1359f8d7a7f4291a[/URL][/QUOTE]I am a novice to Secret Benefits. I actually used SB ONLY for reference site to bait for SA. I am feel I am above intermediate to SA. In other words I have been successful with its ins and outs. Most SA's Sugar babies mostly younger one range of 22-29 if all or partially speaking use Text-Messages app that they generate these numbers so No one can trace their true identities such as their locations or whatever it is that they are hiding of: if you pay attentions all those users within NC's States their text app number usually gets generated to 910 area code where the hub of IPs for these text apps are out Fayettville area. However, if you pay attentions those scammers or picture sellers contact number is from another area since they are online from out of state area of North Carolina I, e: 336, and so on. That's because they live in a remote states. I hope I have conveyed my info to you. Basically never, ever trust any SB until webcam verification is completed. I don't leave my step door until cam session is verified. Good Luck.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/fe118f9e-c744-4884-bda8-4929dbcf94ba[/URL]

Watch out for this one; met once, was alright, but solicited allowance in advance then blocked me. Even tried to convince me it hadn't gone through and to send it again.

[QUOTE=DfwPussyEater;4798805]Greetings my fellow Mongers: I, too, reached out to the blonde rosy & Brunette grace yesterday. After inviting her to my private phone text for sake of avoidIng to break any SA's terms of agreements. She indicated to me the same $800 for a thresome with no limitations. After I explained To her that I prefer to see her and grace (her brunette girlfriend) in a separate time. She indicated that she prefers for grace to be present in the room while we get nasty. Considering I have had bad experience in the with a duet (making it easier for them to rub me) I insisted To her that I was only interested in seeing each Individual separately. She indicated that her girlfriend is willing (that being Grace) to see me alone. She shared a picture of Both with me. Grace agreed to 400 But, after I gave some thought I felt a bad vibe for these two to proceed. Having said that I still would love to get anyones input on a possible future seeing them. Also, I am going to post the picture rosykakes sent me. Good luck all, and remain safe. (this is my first post in this site & I appreciate all infos that gets exchanged here. Keep up the good work all).[/QUOTE]Met them both. 800. They threw on music and danced a bit. Did everything but Greek. Blonde was in a rush the whole time. Brunette seemed inexperienced. At the end they asked for 1600. Told them no and showed them out. They've reached out to me a few times trying to get me again. Always saying that I stiffed them before. They come with drama and money related drama. Be warned.

On the upside, some of the best I've ever had.

[QUOTE=jobobtheclown;4825697][URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/fe118f9e-c744-4884-bda8-4929dbcf94ba[/URL]

Watch out for this one; met once, was alright, but solicited allowance in advance then blocked me. Even tried to convince me it hadn't gone through and to send it again.[/QUOTE]Because they keep asking and you guys keep sending nonetheless I am sorry it happened to you.

[QUOTE=SneakyMan;4824539]For what it's worth.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/431617bc-b03f-4d6d-9b66-d67dc1852d36[/URL]

She contacted me first. Got digits, then went bizarre. Friend needed to meet with us first, started changing the location, time, etc. Ghost. Friend appeared hotter.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/73d1e1b1-d5d8-4008-980d-b99718f98915[/URL]

Got digits and started chatting. Then she goes off on how horny guys are.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/aa5965bd-a3bd-450c-a455-45503a6e8607[/URL]

Got digits and a few messages then ghost.[/QUOTE]The first one on your list. She is a lot hotter and nicer then her friend. I total agree on the meeting, real pain, and she goes MIA often. Did meet up, but to took to much energy syncing schedules.

[QUOTE=jobobtheclown;4825697][URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/fe118f9e-c744-4884-bda8-4929dbcf94ba[/URL]

Watch out for this one; met once, was alright, but solicited allowance in advance then blocked me. Even tried to convince me it hadn't gone through and to send it again.[/QUOTE]Going to have to be WAY more specific for a yay or nay? Did she deliver? Did you pay up front? Did you actually meet? Etc?

Good afternoon! I've been lurking for a bit but I'm ready to post now. Hope everyone is being safe!

Does anyone have an information or seen this young, cute and sexy SB?

I appreciate any information.

Thank you.

Gurucoffee1996.

It was a bit original. Will send me pic of DL as proof then I send $ to him / her.

Total BS.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/36f3bc34-1786-4ec7-911e-2c0dd0e12489[/URL]

[QUOTE=GuruCoffee1996;4826654]Good afternoon! I've been lurking for a bit but I'm ready to post now. Hope everyone is being safe!

Does anyone have an information or seen this young, cute and sexy SB?

I appreciate any information.

Thank you.

Gurucoffee1996.[/QUOTE]Do you have a link.

[QUOTE=AzBadger7;4798125]This SB reached out to me today. Originally wanted 800 a piece for her and her gf. Told her no way and she immediately came 500 a piece. Granted she (and her gf) look great. Hard to justify those prices in my mind. Any High rollers have experience with this one?

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/ae83694a-0188-4e56-92c9-06c422ef4f76[/URL][/QUOTE]Good time with her and her friend. Roseykakes is nice, but needs some meat on her bones. Her friend is a real spinner, both are out of work dancers. Very good, no rush time, and was a crazy GFE fun, YMMV. Both are stoners and were hitting the weed pretty hard, if you are into the 420 fun time, it would be great. 420 not for me. I did not offer Macy's rates, but visited on a Walmart budget. If you know what you are doing, it's a great opportunity, it is a fun time, took some work, and I have been back. Get them now, I hate to say this, they are young and dumb. But ready for a party!

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/25b84a93-c5a4-4ebb-8d21-3c26b92d84c2[/URL]

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/ae83694a-0188-4e56-92c9-06c422ef4f76[/URL]

[QUOTE=SmallAsianCock;4827317]Do you have a link.[/QUOTE]Go to STG and type in her username Haylee97 in the text box at the bottom of your search page.

[QUOTE=SmallAsianCock;4827317]Do you have a link.[/QUOTE]My apologies for not adding the link. Here it is guys. Thank you.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/ba8c96d0-9a18-497e-8f4e-f4f98ad404f6[/URL]

To managing all this chicks is to have a bunch of them. I forgot how frustrating this game can be when I focus on one chick at a time. They flake, texting is subpar, etc. Welp, if you have 5 chicks you are messaging it's so much better. Literally send the same message to 5 girls and at least one response with a good attitude. Then I go back and cancel on some flake that isn't reliable and act like I could give a fuck.

Not to be a dick, but it's good for them. Till you get a girl with her head on straight just fade in and out till they are motivated. I think this spring was a sellers market but this summer things are getting equaled out. Just play the entire group till you have a girl saying "good morning" to you and asking to meet with a tinge of desperation.

[QUOTE=MythMan2010;4828146]To managing all this chicks is to have a bunch of them. I forgot how frustrating this game can be when I focus on one chick at a time. They flake, texting is subpar, etc. Welp, if you have 5 chicks you are messaging it's so much better. Literally send the same message to 5 girls and at least one response with a good attitude. Then I go back and cancel on some flake that isn't reliable and act like I could give a fuck.

Not to be a dick, but it's good for them. Till you get a girl with her head on straight just fade in and out till they are motivated. I think this spring was a sellers market but this summer things are getting equaled out. Just play the entire group till you have a girl saying "good morning" to you and asking to meet with a tinge of desperation.[/QUOTE]Because of the lockdown and lots job losses, I thought it was a buyers market. Because there were plenty of sellers who were willing to negotiate with us buyers. Basically we buyers had plenty to choose from.

[QUOTE=Raltime;4825841]The first one on your list. She is a lot hotter and nicer then her friend. I total agree on the meeting, real pain, and she goes MIA often. Did meet up, but to took to much energy syncing schedules.[/QUOTE]I was chatting with them this what she sent me in April maybe they have changed " Well first you could re-read the message I sent you, initial meet we prefer to not have sex. If we feel comfortable and the price is acceptional then we are okay with oral " So I passed.

Here are some ramblings about my experiences at SA, and what I eventually found that works for me.

The main ingredient: respect. If you approach them like a human being, your success rate will increase. If you expect them to bend to your will because you have money to throw at them (however much you consider fair) then your communication style will be a turnoff for them. This is why many girls now put "platonic" or "online only" on their profiles. To weed out the impatient jerks.

Also, consider that many of these girls are doing this (sex for money) for the first time and they need someone to be patient with them instead of coming across as demanding jerks (also, see impatient jerks above).

Don't treat them like an object that you're buying with money, that's more for the Escorts forum. Yes, these girls are escorts too if you want to play with semantics, but their mindset is different.

[QUOTE=LikesGirls;4828648]Here are some ramblings about my experiences at SA, and what I eventually found that works for me.

The main ingredient: respect. If you approach them like a human being, your success rate will increase. If you expect them to bend to your will because you have money to throw at them (however much you consider fair) then your communication style will be a turnoff for them. This is why many girls now put "platonic" or "online only" on their profiles. To weed out the impatient jerks.

Also, consider that many of these girls are doing this (sex for money) for the first time and they need someone to be patient with them instead of coming across as demanding jerks (also, see impatient jerks above).

Don't treat them like an object that you're buying with money, that's more for the Escorts forum. Yes, these girls are escorts too if you want to play with semantics, but their mindset is different.[/QUOTE]And, well stated.

For instance. A blonde hottie, 20 ish, nursing school, lives with mom in North Raleigh. I've known her for a couple years now but she considers herself high-dollar as an SB and can't host etc. So it doesn't really work for us.

But, we stay in touch. She's even hooked me up with a friend once- and she DMed me today out of the blue. "Hey. Could really just use a mani / pedi and a couple drinks. Monday afternoon? We can have a little fun. ".

Now I know she can't host and she's not doing f / s for less than $400, so I'll get some flirting, a make out sesh and a handy out of it from a hot girl. So, why the hell not?

Those types are out there if you just be relatively cool to them.

[QUOTE=LikesGirls;4828648]Here are some ramblings about my experiences at SA, and what I eventually found that works for me.

The main ingredient: respect. If you approach them like a human being, your success rate will increase. If you expect them to bend to your will because you have money to throw at them (however much you consider fair) then your communication style will be a turnoff for them. This is why many girls now put "platonic" or "online only" on their profiles. To weed out the impatient jerks.

Also, consider that many of these girls are doing this (sex for money) for the first time and they need someone to be patient with them instead of coming across as demanding jerks (also, see impatient jerks above).

Don't treat them like an object that you're buying with money, that's more for the Escorts forum. Yes, these girls are escorts too if you want to play with semantics, but their mindset is different.[/QUOTE]Totally agree with what you say. But respect goes both ways. Say I reach out to 100 girls and able to connect with 10. Then 9 out of ten want some kind of up front money. Gas money. Car got totalled etc. It takes a lot of time to convince and tell them that if you just run with 50 up front you are losing a lot more you can make by actually meeting in person and taking the arrangement forward. This game needs a lot of patience. I did SA for some time with some success with one girl who was not completely my type but great with attitude. Recently tried SB which I think is worse about continuing a conversation. I had several reach out but only 5% go to the second message stage let alone getting someone to text my burner. But yeah I have been respectful. Not too pushy. Hope is still there. But again several personal factors also reduce your chances. I am not the best looking and not the right ethnicity too so it keeps getting more tough.

Oh well I guess that turned out to be rant than providing something constructive. Just keep at it guys. I am sure we all can find at least a couple of strikes.

Jb.

[QUOTE=Raltime;4827574]Good time with her and her friend. Roseykakes is nice, but needs some meat on her bones. Her friend is a real spinner, both are out of work dancers. Very good, no rush time, and was a crazy GFE fun, YMMV. Both are stoners and were hitting the weed pretty hard, if you are into the 420 fun time, it would be great. 420 not for me. I did not offer Macy's rates, but visited on a Walmart budget. If you know what you are doing, it's a great opportunity, it is a fun time, took some work, and I have been back. Get them now, I hate to say this, they are young and dumb. But ready for a party!

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/25b84a93-c5a4-4ebb-8d21-3c26b92d84c2[/URL]

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/ae83694a-0188-4e56-92c9-06c422ef4f76[/URL][/QUOTE]I've been talking to them as well and gave me the same $800 each starting point which is absurd. I didn't want to pull the trigger on both until meeting one first but Grace (brunette) was the only one that would go solo so I gave it a shot for 3. 50. Big mistake. When I got to their house Rosey met me who is hot af. When I finally met Grace she was completely wasted, couldn't have just been weed but I figured I'm here so wth. We start fooling around and she was so wasted I just wanted to get it over with. Here's where it gets good. I'm exploring her digitally and turns she has a tampon in! So I did the deed anyway and got the hell out of dodge. I was there for a total of 25 min. A complete ripoff. I would love to see Rosey but she won't meet solo and I'm not wasting money on Grace again just to see Rosey. Probably the worst experience I've had in 4 years in the bowl.

My 2nd experience in RDU was also quite interesting LOL. I set up a meet with this one but she lets me know the first time she meets a guy she only does oral. She's pretty hot so I say wth and agreed to the 300 fee. She gets to my hotel and it's hard to describe how small this girl is. Under 5 feet and maybe weights 85 lbs but not sickly looking. Really cute too. So we get down to it and she tells me she doesn't like her vag touched below the hood either orally or digitally wth?? Also no kissing. About as non GFE of an experience as you could get although she does have top notch oral skills. All in all an ok time but I really wanted to see her next time for the main event. I talk to her the next day and she says tbh I'm a virgin and I'm only interested in giving oral. I'm like you lying ass B you know damn well I never woulda seen you if you had told me the truth so I told her have a nice life. In case any of you mongers are thinking about this one just know what you're getting into.

[QUOTE=RavensFan2012;4830041]My 2nd experience in RDU was also quite interesting LOL. I set up a meet with this one but she lets me know the first time she meets a guy she only does oral. She's pretty hot so I say wth and agreed to the 300 fee. She gets to my hotel and it's hard to describe how small this girl is. Under 5 feet and maybe weights 85 lbs but not sickly looking. Really cute too. So we get down to it and she tells me she doesn't like her vag touched below the hood either orally or digitally wth?? Also no kissing. About as non GFE of an experience as you could get although she does have top notch oral skills. All in all an ok time but I really wanted to see her next time for the main event. I talk to her the next day and she says tbh I'm a virgin and I'm only interested in giving oral. I'm like you lying ass B you know damn well I never woulda seen you if you had told me the truth so I told her have a nice life. In case any of you mongers are thinking about this one just know what you're getting into.[/QUOTE]Sorry to know that you took the bait. She is reviewed in here and verified that she only does oral. Thanks to my fellow mongers review I saved my 300 from shoving it to her mouth. Good luck on The next round but please always search for reviews specially on SBs with odd requests. That's a red flag for uncommon requests.

[QUOTE=Hiamey;4828555]I was chatting with them this what she sent me in April maybe they have changed " Well first you could re-read the message I sent you, initial meet we prefer to not have sex. If we feel comfortable and the price is acceptional then we are okay with oral " So I passed.[/QUOTE]I have had initial text conversation with her, next she kept sending Snapchat videos, and I made it clear I do not see any SB without first having a live webcam verification first (Golden rule for me, if they deny my request I block them immediately). Last time I had a contact with her she had agreed to my term and she asked me to pick a time & date to FaceTime. (She sent me picture of her and her friend who was sleep in the next bed in a hotel room). I agreed to delay the webcam to another day. I never got back to her since I had a few sured SB since our last contact. But, she did agree to F / S with protection & no Greek. I frankly just lost interest in both because they are not genuine SB but Escort service that using SA to bait for their expenses. They are located out of Jacksonville but they cruise through to northern Raleigh as she now and then sends a short SMS asking if I am available. I have been blunt with her that I see a few SBs on a regular base and I won't be able to see her without confirming a set date and time. But, she has shown no other sexual limitation other than what I mentioned above. Ooh, her digit is 300. Also, I had let her know I had no attraction to her blonde skinny friend that if we did meet it would be solo encounter. She also agreed to go solo. But I have a feeling she comes with a Drama and that's why I am having her lingering. Good luck.

[QUOTE=RavensFan2012;4830041]My 2nd experience in RDU was also quite interesting LOL. I set up a meet with this one but she lets me know the first time she meets a guy she only does oral. She's pretty hot so I say wth and agreed to the 300 fee. She gets to my hotel and it's hard to describe how small this girl is. Under 5 feet and maybe weights 85 lbs but not sickly looking. Really cute too. So we get down to it and she tells me she doesn't like her vag touched below the hood either orally or digitally wth?? Also no kissing. About as non GFE of an experience as you could get although she does have top notch oral skills. All in all an ok time but I really wanted to see her next time for the main event. I talk to her the next day and she says tbh I'm a virgin and I'm only interested in giving oral. I'm like you lying ass B you know damn well I never woulda seen you if you had told me the truth so I told her have a nice life. In case any of you mongers are thinking about this one just know what you're getting into.[/QUOTE]Search back about 6 pages; she also goes by "MichelleSuze".

[QUOTE=jobobtheclown;4830220]Search back about 6 pages; she also goes by "MichelleSuze".[/QUOTE]Shame on me for not doing my research. I'll take some solace in the fact it was a BBBJ and not CBJ LOL.

[QUOTE=jobobtheclown;4830220]Search back about 6 pages; she also goes by "MichelleSuze".[/QUOTE]I met her for $50.00. I saved $250.0 and I will not return.

[QUOTE=Hiamey;4830328]I met her for $50.00. I saved $250.0 and I will not return.[/QUOTE]I also met her and I will not repeat. $50.00 also.

Will sell pics and videos and once you prove you're real, will meet. Yea right!

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/ca664cf5-25e6-42a3-8854-f9ca8de130b7[/URL]

[QUOTE=SneakyMan;4832496]Will sell pics and videos and once you prove you're real, will meet. Yea right!

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/ca664cf5-25e6-42a3-8854-f9ca8de130b7[/URL][/QUOTE]While always keeping an eye out for new ones to work in, this is why I like to stick with some of the reliable ones that have been around for a bit. Treat them well and even if they get off SA, they are likely still open to meeting. Or so I have found.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/f273692f-c1c5-49a7-b921-a78195e9ffad[/URL]

Anyone know anything about this one? She is offering to travel to me and seems dtf.

[QUOTE=TriadTraveler;4833519][URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/f273692f-c1c5-49a7-b921-a78195e9ffad[/URL]

Anyone know anything about this one? She is offering to travel to me and seems dtf.[/QUOTE]She's real, sensual, $300/ ppm and very much dtf.

[QUOTE=SneakyMan;4832496]Will sell pics and videos and once you prove you're real, will meet. Yea right!

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/ca664cf5-25e6-42a3-8854-f9ca8de130b7[/URL][/QUOTE]Babygirllianna245 deposit scam.

Olivas3 deposit scam.

Milliesa deposit scam.

[QUOTE=Panama7996;4833738]Babygirllianna245 deposit scam.

Olivas3 deposit scam.

Milliesa deposit scam.[/QUOTE]The good news is they are generally easy to identify. And there are some really good reliable, sweet girls there that are not scams.

[QUOTE=LikesGirls;4833617]She's real, sensual, $300/ ppm and very much dtf.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info. I'm going to go for it.

[QUOTE=Panama7996;4833738]Babygirllianna245 deposit scam.

Olivas3 deposit scam.

Milliesa deposit scam.[/QUOTE]Wait, you sure on that first one? I tried to see her and she turned down my offer as not high enough. Was pretty rude about it, and it wasn't a lowball offer. That seems like an odd choice is she was intending to scam me.

Milliesa wouldn't meet without a payment upfront, so spot on there.

[QUOTE=jobobtheclown;4834137]Wait, you sure on that first one? I tried to see her and she turned down my offer as not high enough. Was pretty rude about it, and it wasn't a lowball offer. That seems like an odd choice is she was intending to scam me.

Milliesa wouldn't meet without a payment upfront, so spot on there.[/QUOTE]There's a crew from Apex / Cary. All recent high school grads -all 18/19 years old. Apex, Friendship, Green Hope, Middle Creek.

I haven't gotten a single one to agree to meet without requesting a deposit. Even a fake high offer and they wanted half of it upfront.

If you can find them on Social media they are all connected or one degree of separation from each other.

Most have joined since about 1st of the year.

I was also warned that one "recruited" her younger sister. Who's very underage. Onto the sugar sites. Be wary.

If anyone can get one to meet without upfront payment, I'd be impressed. They are all pretty girls with typical hot 18 year old bodies and lots of pics of weed on social media. Haha.