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[QUOTE=SupDaddy;2947639]Can I ask how you handled the boyfriends calling you or what you said when you met their real daddies? It may help one of us when we face that situation.
Thanks HG.[/QUOTE]This is no different than how you would handle it in real life. IMHO if your doing a friends daughter one deserves to get ass kicked. This isn't rocket science.
[QUOTE=SupDaddy;2947639]Can I ask how you handled the boyfriends calling you or what you said when you met their real daddies? It may help one of us when we face that situation.
Thanks HG.[/QUOTE]Boyfriends that just rant and rave or threaten rarely do anything else.A few times guys have called crying to me that one of my x's was a drama queen or that she wasn't paying enough attention to them and what should he do about it. The dads or moms that met me were not always the best parents or were just tired of the ongoing expenses. If I was willing to step in (and spend money), more power to me, and less responsibility for them. But whenever you meet any girl for the first time, unless you are absolutely convinced that they are on the up and up, meet them in a public place first and then go from there.
I tend to be cautious, but I am worrying about the girl taking down my license tag when we meet and keeping that in her hip pocket. Therefore, I purchased a 2015 tag for California on EBay. I will swap that onto my car when I go to M&G. I know I don't have the current sticker, but my observation is that the enforcement of traffic laws is pretty lax here, and I expect I can get away with it for a few miles drive to the meeting spot. I don't have a front plate even though I am supposed to, and no one says boo (well actually, once I got a fix-it ticket for this, the CHP saying it was b / c they use the front plate for tolls if your transponder fails).
[QUOTE=FarFarAway;2939765]Can I revisit "You will rarely sate a girl that favorites you" - was that a misprint / spellcheck error? Literally, I will never satisfy a girl who favorites me? Like, she is insatiable? Is that a good or bad thing? Or did you mean that I will rarely meet a girl who favorites me?[/QUOTE]Replace the s with a d.
Met a potential at the mall for coffee, she was into big eye contact and holding my hand (not me holding hers). I thought. Maybe this could be good (1/2 columbian, 1/2 white).
Got home and got an email asking for $500/ meeting. I said "nope". So we will see, but at this point, unless I can get her way down to $100-150 she aint seeing any of my gifts.
Any advice from the board how you guys handle GPS requests?
GG.
[QUOTE=GenevaGuy;2949131]Met a potential at the mall for coffee, she was into big eye contact and holding my hand (not me holding hers). I thought. Maybe this could be good (1/2 columbian, 1/2 white).
Got home and got an email asking for $500/ meeting. I said "nope". So we will see, but at this point, unless I can get her way down to $100-150 she aint seeing any of my gifts.
Any advice from the board how you guys handle GPS requests?
GG.[/QUOTE]This why I always talk about the allowance up front. My time is worth a lot. I can't imagine meeting a girl with no clue what to expect.
Hey Guys just to get feedback.
What would you consider an average allowance for a sb. 100 per visit? Has anyone tried a "Monthly" allowance for unlimited visits or say twice per week? Just wondering the experience here since sometimes the numbers change.
Valid sticker in one thing but can't the cops write a ticket for driving with an incorrect license plate as well?
[QUOTE=FarFarAway;2948193]I tend to be cautious, but I am worrying about the girl taking down my license tag when we meet and keeping that in her hip pocket. Therefore, I purchased a 2015 tag for California on EBay. I will swap that onto my car when I go to M&G. I know I don't have the current sticker, but my observation is that the enforcement of traffic laws is pretty lax here, and I expect I can get away with it for a few miles drive to the meeting spot. I don't have a front plate even though I am supposed to, and no one says boo (well actually, once I got a fix-it ticket for this, the CHP saying it was b / c they use the front plate for tolls if your transponder fails).[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Lebruno;2949961]Valid sticker in one thing but can't the cops write a ticket for driving with an incorrect license plate as well?[/QUOTE]Its not a ticket. Its actually a jailable offence. Not something you ever want to do.
[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;2950011]Its not a ticket. Its actually a jailable offence. Not something you ever want to do.[/QUOTE]Agreed, most states allow for ticket to be issued or towed and arrested. Depending on LEO having a good or bad day.
[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;2950011]Its not a ticket. Its actually a jailable offence. Not something you ever want to do.[/QUOTE]So what's the alternative?
I have been learning at the feet of the masters here.
I took the posted HG intro letter and adapted it for my own purposes. I have contacted a lot of girls on SA, but I particularly used a letter modeled on his for profiles that were brief or otherwise inscrutable (but invariably young, <22, and hot). I received no productive responses. One girl even sniped about my 'cut-and-paste' message. Maybe she reads this thread and knew where some of the wording came from. I really did adapt it, and I know how to write, but I kept the attitude. My lesson. That letter works for HG because it goes with him and whatever is on his profile. I am a different person, a lot less aggressive I imagine. And my approach to them didn't go with me. One big difference. I am married. So, go on out there HG and nail all those who blew me off. I have to be satisfied with those who did respond, to different types of approaches. All appealing in one way or another and all nubile.
I haven't even M&G yet, but I am already overjoyed with this scene. This is unlike anything I have ever experienced, and I have been mongering for 35 years. There clearly are UTRs and flat-out escorts using SA (contacted me), but there's so much other quality horny p* I don't know why anyone would bother with them.
I need some pointers to generate cash without alerting the SO. I have long been a devotee of Benjamins, but pulling enough cash for a SB out of the bank account / ATM is going to raise? S. I have some investment accounts I can access, but that is also risky. A SO long ago found a credit card charge for a dating site on a statement, and I barely kept a lid on it. Generating a lot of cash discreetly is hard. I have found the OneVanilla card a great way to untraceably pay for stuff, but you still have to have cash to buy them.
[QUOTE=FarFarAway;2950885]So what's the alternative?[/QUOTE]No alternative but to run legal registration unless you want to take the chance. Now if you would happen to have a buddy that dealed in cars and would let you use his dealer tags that might work.
I saw my ATF yesterday. But a couple of hours after I got home, this UTR hit me up that I had just met the day before online (her first day on SA). It was Saturday night so I thought what the hell. I had been txting her since Friday, and she sent me a lot of pics, so I knew she was going to be a little trashy, a little sexy and maybe some fun. Even though she was workin me, I also know how this game is played. You've got to try new girls out because you just never know when you are going to get lucky. It's exactly how I found my last awesome UTR. Just pure dumb luck that led to almost 40 dates.
So I took the chance and ubered her over and back (.25 RT). She told me earlier she was a soon to be x stripper, so I knew MMMV and she did end up having more than a few rules. In spite of her rules (which she relayed with a beautiful smile & perky attitude) we found a way to at least get me my $ worth. She actually was a very pretty latina with sexy slender legs, a very cute ass and bigger than I needed real titties. A late twenties MILF that must have been really stunning at 20. Just a little mom pouch, and a little rushed, but I still got an hour out of her (not sure how, as it seemed to go pretty fast).
Her winning smile and stripper social skills were just enough to keep me interested and get me off. I most likely won't see her again but she is a possible go to girl if I'm feeling desperate. She would have to really lighten up a bit on the rules to get to date two. She tried to make up for the not anything goes sex (with a few kinky moves). But I would definitely have to have a talk with her about a couple of things just to get to that second date. She said she liked to drink, so maybe that would loosen things up a bit. It would probably be easier to just try out the next POT on my list. I have a lot more, so no shortage of possibilities.
I also got a call from a guilty x yesterday. She was offering me multiple make-good dates (for some past advances) so I know I am going to be trying her out soon enough to see if we still have any chemistry left. We used to have some pretty hot times. She is an NP and pretty much a loner type. And she is also a CMT so I will get to enjoy her massage skills as well. I don't go to MP's but I can appreciate how a good massage can lead to some good sex. And that was always our MO in the past. Mutual massage leading to a lot more, with some good kissing and daddy talk. And she is the likes to hang out type. Which I can appreciate from time to time.
Have been trading messages for months with this girl from SA. She lives 50 miles away. I would message her on the site and than not hear back from her. After my subscription would expire, a message would pop up, but couldn't read it. I only subscribe when I need a new SB. Finally saw on one of the posts here that SA would give you a free week if you had problems when they changed their website several months ago. I sent a complaint in than,but didn't hear back. Last week I emailed them again and they gave me a free week. Got on the site and was able to finally get this hot 20 year old Latinas number. We started texting--she is not a timely texter. She wanted 300 and I countered with 150, but weren't having any luck. I finally suggested we do a BJ for 80 and see if we clicked. Finally got it set up for this afternoon. Met her at a truck stop. She hopped in my truck and we drove to a RV park attached to the truck stop. Pulled into a deserted space and talked for about 5 minutes. Had her get in the back seat and she was out of her clothes in 30 seconds. Nice firm Body. Small tits. Long black hair and nice big lips. Started making out. I got undressed and she went right to work sucking. Put my fingers in her pussy as she sucked away. Beautiful view of her body on all fours while I held her hair! Had her stop once or twice so I would last longer. Doesn't want to swallow yet. She is still fixated on 300 per session. Ok with just BJ for agreed upon amount. Told her I couldn't do that much. Told her about my past arrangements-- she is going to think about it. I am hoping I got her hooked on the cash flow and the forbidden / fun of a discreet hookup. We shall see!
Couple alternatives. Try using a rental car. Using Priceline I've been able to get rental cars as cheap as $10 per day. But again, just so you're aware, with Priceline you'll be using a credit card trail.
Or, you can park the car little away from where your SB could see it and if you need to take her for a ride in your car just make sure you keep her fully engaged and interested and doesn't get a second to blink her eyes over to the registration plate. LOL.
[QUOTE=FarFarAway;2950885]So what's the alternative?[/QUOTE]
I have always been curious about SA site, so few weeks ago, I subscribed to it. I have emailed, texted, Skype, got few pics and videos in exchanged for e-gift cards. Earlier, I was chatting to this one girl, agreed on the price for NSA arrangement and I told her I can give her 100 for each meeting, she wanted 300 and told her no. She told me that I can't find the dirtiest and nastiest hooker for 100 on the street. My questions is, what is the average cost / allowance to give to a girl for each time we meet? For 100 I can get me a good HE massage. Thank you for your comment / reply.
[QUOTE=ArnCali13;2952121]I have always been curious about SA site, so few weeks ago, I subscribed to it. I have emailed, texted, Skype, got few pics and videos in exchanged for e-gift cards. Earlier, I was chatting to this one girl, agreed on the price for NSA arrangement and I told her I can give her 100 for each meeting, she wanted 300 and told her no. She told me that I can't find the dirtiest and nastiest hooker for 100 on the street. My questions is, what is the average cost / allowance to give to a girl for each time we meet? For 100 I can get me a good HE massage. Thank you for your comment / reply.[/QUOTE]Pay what you think is worth it. 100 per date is the standard that some people have set and have been successful with, while others may pay more. I usually start at 100 but depending on circumstances I've gone as high as 400. Is 400 a lot, especially when you can book a really hot escort 250? Maybe, but a 400 girl I saw a few times looked like she came straight out of a music video, let me fuck her bareback multiple times a night and would sleep over so we could have more sex in the morning. Felt completely worth it to me. I've also had a model come over and we agreed to 300 -- she ended up being annoying and the sex was awful. Definitely should have stuck to my guns on that one.
Found a new place to look for sugar babies. You won't believe it until you look. Craigslist Resumes.
[URL]http://inlandempire.craigslist.org/res/5633391374.html[/URL]
[URL]http://inlandempire.craigslist.org/res/5623225367.html[/URL]
Lots of women looking for work. You just have to approach them carefully. (Well, not the ones above but others).
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[URL]http://losangeles.craigslist.org/lgb/res/5627825428.html[/URL]
[URL]http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sfv/res/5621617499.html[/URL]
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I just had my first M&G. A 22 yo who told me she is Filipina. Been here 6 months. In some ways a wet dream, super cute, petite, with braces even. As I thought about it, though, I realized there is lots of sex tourism in the Philipines, and many go overseas to be bar girls. So, what's the take of experienced SDs on these types of girls?
[QUOTE=DropFrame;2953080]Found a new place to look for sugar babies. You won't believe it until you look. Craigslist Resumes.
[URL]http://inlandempire.craigslist.org/res/5633391374.html[/URL]
[URL]http://inlandempire.craigslist.org/res/5623225367.html[/URL]
Lots of women looking for work. You just have to approach them carefully. (Well, not the ones above but others).
[URL]http://losangeles.craigslist.org/lgb/res/5602931719.html[/URL]
[URL]http://losangeles.craigslist.org/lgb/res/5627825428.html[/URL]
[URL]http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sfv/res/5621617499.html[/URL]
[URL]http://losangeles.craigslist.org/lac/res/5628094283.html[/URL]
[URL]http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/res/5633945761.html[/URL]
[URL]http://ventura.craigslist.org/res/5626705973.html[/URL]
[URL]http://losangeles.craigslist.org/lgb/res/5624772802.html[/URL][/QUOTE]Hey DropF,
Nice Sherlock work, just wonder have you or are planning to hit any of these gals? Let us know.
BTW, the gal from 1000 Oaks seemed pretty hot to me. Let us know if you make contact with her.
Mondo.
[QUOTE=FarFarAway;2953644]I just had my first M&G. A 22 yo who told me she is Filipina. Been here 6 months. In some ways a wet dream, super cute, petite, with braces even. As I thought about it, though, I realized there is lots of sex tourism in the Philipines, and many go overseas to be bar girls. So, what's the take of experienced SDs on these types of girls?[/QUOTE]If you are worried. Use a condom until you see her test results.
I am seeking pointers from other attached SDs. Since the SO is a stay-at-home mom, there are limitations to what can be at my home and where it can be. I am seeing that the incriminating 'stuff' adds up. Gift cards, vanilla cards, lots of Benjamins, burner, etc. I have *everything* related to this activity on one flash drive. If I ever need to dispose of it, not only erasing but getting out a hammer destroys all evidence. I almost always have that flash drive with me, discreetly. Otherwise, it's hidden. Using a browser that leaves no traces on whichever computer I am using (home or office).
I don't know how to best handle the burner. It is off anytime it is in the house, and set to silent at all times. Is it better to have it in a good hiding place in the house (which likely also means pretty inaccessible) or to say hide it in my car? If the SO ever decided to search the car, with few spots, it would be easily found, and of course it has everything. Digits, texts, times / days.
[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;2954138]If you are worried. Use a condom until you see her test results.[/QUOTE]Agreed, but I like to DATY, especially with the young ones, and you can still get HSV doing that. Yeah, guess I just have to get and insist on a test.
So the 39 Caucasian continued to text me and I held firm. I was willing to go higher for her because of a number of factors, but there was no way I was going to drop $$$ again. I figured from what I have learned from other women on the SA site, that I am a find and if women are looking for more that cold cash, I have an advantage. Because she continued to text me, I had a pretty good idea, she wasn't getting a whole lot of offers for her amount.
Finally she agrees to my pricepoint and my level of fun. She wants a certain drink and wants expensive vodka, which she then acquiesces to a reasonably priced one, a pattern that develops of her asking for one thing and settling for something else.
She has borrowed a car and gets to my house too early. She gets pretty wasted and looks at my mail. The sex was awesome but she is too unpredictable to deal with in my house. She has an incredible body and likes crazy sex so I would be willing to see her again at her place or at a hotel but her price is already double what I am used to and with a hotel, it would be even higher. Meanwhile I have started to see a very cute 24 year old who comes like crazy is in my pricepoint range, (the last time she visited, we went to the drive-in with no gift given) and is NOT crazy.
[QUOTE=FarFarAway;2954377]Agreed, but I like to DATY, especially with the young ones, and you can still get HSV doing that. Yeah, guess I just have to get and insist on a test.[/QUOTE]And remember you can only get an HSV test privately (meaning paid clinic). Not at most free clinics as they do not test for it unless there are symptoms including at PP. Also the transference rate of HSV2 to the oral area is extremely uncommon (but not impossible). And vise versa. If you are that worried, just ask the girl if she ever had an HSV2 (herpes) breakout.
Here's my 2 cents. Get rid of the Flash Drive. Its very risky if your SO gets to it. Anything that you have on the Flash Drive you can easily store, retrieve from the cloud. Many options from Dropbox, Google Drive, iCloud, etc. Likewise, do not store any data on the burner phone. Just save what you need to the cloud and delete it on the physical phone. That way, even if found, there won't be any incrementing evidence. It does help to have a smartphone for the burner so you can easily access data to and from the Cloud. If you want to keep the costs low you can get a used smartphone for less than 100 bucks on eBay or amazon. You don't really need to buy a data plan if you can access internet over wifi.
[QUOTE=FarFarAway;2954375]I am seeking pointers from other attached SDs. Since the SO is a stay-at-home mom, there are limitations to what can be at my home and where it can be. I am seeing that the incriminating 'stuff' adds up. Gift cards, vanilla cards, lots of Benjamins, burner, etc. I have *everything* related to this activity on one flash drive. If I ever need to dispose of it, not only erasing but getting out a hammer destroys all evidence. I almost always have that flash drive with me, discreetly. Otherwise, it's hidden. Using a browser that leaves no traces on whichever computer I am using (home or office).
I don't know how to best handle the burner. It is off anytime it is in the house, and set to silent at all times. Is it better to have it in a good hiding place in the house (which likely also means pretty inaccessible) or to say hide it in my car? If the SO ever decided to search the car, with few spots, it would be easily found, and of course it has everything. Digits, texts, times / days.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=LargeEss;2954587]So the 39 Caucasian continued to text me and I held firm. I was willing to go higher for her because of a number of factors, but there was no way I was going to drop $$$ again. I figured from what I have learned from other women on the SA site, that I am a find and if women are looking for more that cold cash, I have an advantage. Because she continued to text me, I had a pretty good idea, she wasn't getting a whole lot of offers for her amount.
Finally she agrees to my pricepoint and my level of fun. She wants a certain drink and wants expensive vodka, which she then acquiesces to a reasonably priced one, a pattern that develops of her asking for one thing and settling for something else.
She has borrowed a car and gets to my house too early. She gets pretty wasted and looks at my mail. The sex was awesome but she is too unpredictable to deal with in my house. She has an incredible body and likes crazy sex so I would be willing to see her again at her place or at a hotel but her price is already double what I am used to and with a hotel, it would be even higher. Meanwhile I have started to see a very cute 24 year old who comes like crazy is in my pricepoint range, (the last time she visited, we went to the drive-in with no gift given) and is NOT crazy.[/QUOTE]Is 'went to the drive-in' a euphemism of SDs I don't know?
[QUOTE=Lebruno;2954893]Here's my 2 cents. Get rid of the Flash Drive. Its very risky if your SO gets to it. Anything that you have on the Flash Drive you can easily store, retrieve from the cloud. Many options from Dropbox, Google Drive, iCloud, etc. Likewise, do not store any data on the burner phone. Just save what you need to the cloud and delete it on the physical phone. That way, even if found, there won't be any incrementing evidence. It does help to have a smartphone for the burner so you can easily access data to and from the Cloud. If you want to keep the costs low you can get a used smartphone for less than 100 bucks on eBay or amazon. You don't really need to buy a data plan if you can access internet over wifi.[/QUOTE]First, I appreciate the guidance. I know nothing about the cloud though. Best way to learn? And isn't there a paper trail for an EBay purchase? Can I get a smartphone burner that's totally anonymous?
[QUOTE=LargeEss;2954587]So the 39 Caucasian continued to text me and I held firm. I was willing to go higher for her because of a number of factors, but there was no way I was going to drop $$$ again. I figured from what I have learned from other women on the SA site, that I am a find and if women are looking for more that cold cash, I have an advantage. Because she continued to text me, I had a pretty good idea, she wasn't getting a whole lot of offers for her amount.
Finally she agrees to my pricepoint and my level of fun. She wants a certain drink and wants expensive vodka, which she then acquiesces to a reasonably priced one, a pattern that develops of her asking for one thing and settling for something else.
She has borrowed a car and gets to my house too early. She gets pretty wasted and looks at my mail. The sex was awesome but she is too unpredictable to deal with in my house. She has an incredible body and likes crazy sex so I would be willing to see her again at her place or at a hotel but her price is already double what I am used to and with a hotel, it would be even higher. Meanwhile I have started to see a very cute 24 year old who comes like crazy is in my pricepoint range, (the last time she visited, we went to the drive-in with no gift given) and is NOT crazy.[/QUOTE]The older they are the bigger their bills are going to be and they already have a certain amount of stuff. The younger they are the more "stuff" they are going to need, but with most likely smaller bills to pay.
So I've decided to look into the SB thing, thanks to the great feedback on this forum by you longtime veterans of this stuff. I've looked into SA and was wondering how that is going for some of you who have an SO like I do. For SA, do you need to upgrade and pay to have any type of success?
[QUOTE=FarFarAway;2954990]First, I appreciate the guidance. I know nothing about the cloud though. Best way to learn? And isn't there a paper trail for an EBay purchase? Can I get a smartphone burner that's totally anonymous?[/QUOTE]Be careful with the phone, I got caught up with one because the alarm went off on it somehow and then it was found by the SO. I no longer keep the phone in the house. My mistake, but things happen.
You can get a cheap burner phone from the convenience store, and just add time as needed. That is what I'm doing now. The cloud seems cool, but I don't like storing stuff online, and a lot of the google stuff asks for contact information etc. I don't know that much about the cloud, but it hasnt interested me so far.
I'm still keeping things on a locked drive, like you.
Thanks for all the tips fellas. For those of you who haven't upgraded to the payment plan on that site, how successful have you been?
[QUOTE=XxBullXx;2955630]Be careful with the phone, I got caught up with one because the alarm went off on it somehow and then it was found by the SO. I no longer keep the phone in the house. My mistake, but things happen.
You can get a cheap burner phone from the convenience store, and just add time as needed. That is what I'm doing now. The cloud seems cool, but I don't like storing stuff online, and a lot of the google stuff asks for contact information etc. I don't know that much about the cloud, but it hasnt interested me so far.
I'm still keeping things on a locked drive, like you.[/QUOTE]You can encrypt a flash drive, yes? I am even keeping that drive in my office, not at home. The only thing on the home Flash is the Tor browser.
For SA, do both members need to be premium to talk?
A premium sent me a reply and I can not read it. So if I go premium, those that are not premium can not replay to me?
[QUOTE=KeenKeen;2956314]For SA, do both members need to be premium to talk?
A premium sent me a reply and I can not read it. So if I go premium, those that are not premium can not replay to me?[/QUOTE]If she is a paying member you should be able to read and reply.
[QUOTE=KeenKeen;2956314]For SA, do both members need to be premium to talk?
A premium sent me a reply and I can not read it. So if I go premium, those that are not premium can not replay to me?[/QUOTE]No, just one person has to have a premium account. But most girls aren't going to pay for a premium account --there's a reason they're looking for sugar daddies.
[QUOTE=DocOck;2956390]No, just one person has to have a premium account. But most girls aren't going to pay for a premium account --there's a reason they're looking for sugar daddies.[/QUOTE]I asked one young lady who was a premium member why she would pay. She stated she hadn't and thought she was upgraded to premium because she had provided proof that she was a college student.
[QUOTE=DocOck;2956390]No, just one person has to have a premium account. But most girls aren't going to pay for a premium account --there's a reason they're looking for sugar daddies.[/QUOTE]I thought that if a girl could 'prove' she was a college student she gets a premium account for free. Of course, they have to be willing to give up some personal info (actual identity likely) to the site.