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I was searching for a particular lady's name, and Model Mayhem popped up on the Google search. Of course I clicked in. There are some folks there that are obviously legit models. But there are some girls there that seem willing do nudes, and have posted pictures of their poses. Does anyone have experience finding a lady that will "model" and extras? How much is a "modeling" fee? What was your experience? And how do you separate the real models from the ones that will do more?
[QUOTE=SeattleCasual;4418139]Her pics on SA are definitely fake, because she's missing the correct tattoos, and the photos of Emily Brooks she sent you don't match up either. She did send me one photo over text that seemed to match up, however.
She's much thicker in real life. Probably similar to Emily or 10-20 pounds over. I get the feeling that her stated rates are just copying Emily's ad, and you could probably negotiate her down.[/QUOTE]The fact that the pictures don't all exactly match doesn't really prove anything since tattoos can be photoshopped and it's fairly common for the SA ladies to try to hide their activities as providers since SA will ban them if someone reports them as a provider. This discussion reminded me that both KimmyAnnVIP and Emily Brooks had SA profiles that were discussed here a few years ago. The profiles then promptly disappeared from SA.
[QUOTE=Diver6390;4418566]I was searching for a particular lady's name, and Model Mayhem popped up on the Google search. Of course I clicked in. There are some folks there that are obviously legit models. But there are some girls there that seem willing do nudes, and have posted pictures of their poses. Does anyone have experience finding a lady that will "model" and extras? How much is a "modeling" fee? What was your experience? And how do you separate the real models from the ones that will do more?[/QUOTE]Modelmayhem is truly devoted to modeling and while it's possible to find a model willing to do extras since a lot of providers and SB's will also model, you're better off sticking with SA and / or TNA. I used to doing some photography but its been a few years since I have been on MM so unless things have changed, you'll quickly get yourself banned if you start soliciting models on MM.
She's been on and off SA under various names. Beautiful and amazing body, but a dead fish in bed. Promises one thing, takes your gift up front, and then completely fails to deliver. Don't waste your time!
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/b9f358da-4946-470f-a03a-8425d485fa1b[/URL]
[QUOTE=DrTraveler;4418615]She's been on and off SA under various names. Beautiful and amazing body, but a dead fish in bed. Promises one thing, takes your gift up front, and then completely fails to deliver. Don't waste your time!
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/b9f358da-4946-470f-a03a-8425d485fa1b[/URL][/QUOTE]If I remember correctly, there were several previous posts on here warning about her as a ROB. She would periodically reappear on SA under different names and I believe she is or was on TNA as well.
Anyone got any info on here? I got her digits but seems she's getting tons of messages.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/36524f2e-2e97-451d-a55b-8bc5fa6827f5[/URL]
[QUOTE=Fillipino;4418969]Anyone got any info on here? I got her digits but seems she's getting tons of messages.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/36524f2e-2e97-451d-a55b-8bc5fa6827f5[/URL][/QUOTE]So she can get back to me! 😆.
Got her number but not much else.
[QUOTE=Twister100;4418672]If I remember correctly, there were several previous posts on here warning about her as a ROB. She would periodically reappear on SA under different names and I believe she is or was on TNA as well.[/QUOTE]Met up a while back before she moved. Great BJ and once she got warmed up she rode me for a while and then as nice and tight. We never made it work again as I was usually gone but was fun for me.
[QUOTE=TravelPooner;4419331]So she can get back to me! 😆.
Got her number but not much else.[/QUOTE]I chatted with her. Said her name was Carly and it was 1200/ month. The pictures are from this instagram account which is tagged with a Ravensburg. De which is Germany.
[URL]https://www.instagram.com/_lamira/?hl=en[/URL]
[URL]https://findsocials.com/profile/_lamira[/URL]
Anybody seen her before? She has a reasonably detailed profile but looks like either a user or a pro.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/f1a8de03-1a5c-42a1-9fad-58313e421a2f[/URL]
[QUOTE=Twister100;4419435]I chatted with her. Said her name was Carly and it was 1200/ month. The pictures are from this instagram account which is tagged with a Ravensburg. De which is Germany.
[URL]https://www.instagram.com/_lamira/?hl=en[/URL]
[URL]https://findsocials.com/profile/_lamira[/URL][/QUOTE]I chatted with her as well and she wanted $200.00 venmo to help her fix her car. She says she's local but can only take cash via online. Scam.
[QUOTE=Twister100;4418575]The fact that the pictures don't all exactly match doesn't really prove anything since tattoos can be photoshopped and it's fairly common for the SA ladies to try to hide their activities as providers since SA will ban them if someone reports them as a provider. This discussion reminded me that both KimmyAnnVIP and Emily Brooks had SA profiles that were discussed here a few years ago. The profiles then promptly disappeared from SA.[/QUOTE]Emily Brooks posted this on TNA. Looks like funsizechristie is actually Mariesa on TNA.
[URL]https://www.tnaboard.com/showthread.php?1818506-Using-my-pics-on-multiple-sites[/URL]
[URL]https://www.tnaboard.com/member.php?427978-Mariesa[/URL]
[QUOTE=Twister100;4419662]Emily Brooks posted this on TNA. Looks like funsizechristie is actually Mariesa on TNA.
[URL]https://www.tnaboard.com/showthread.php?1818506-Using-my-pics-on-multiple-sites[/URL]
[URL]https://www.tnaboard.com/member.php?427978-Mariesa[/URL][/QUOTE]That pretty much backs what I said earlier. Instagram account matches up.
I've talked with her, she said 300 half day visit then she asked me if I could pay a bill she urgently needed to pay for today. When I said no she offered to show me photos and videos to trust her. I still said no. SCAM 100% She removed 'her' photos from her SA profile.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/36524f2e-2e97-451d-a55b-8bc5fa6827f5[/URL]
[QUOTE=Twister100;4419435]I chatted with her. Said her name was Carly and it was 1200/ month. The pictures are from this instagram account which is tagged with a Ravensburg. De which is Germany.
[URL]https://www.instagram.com/_lamira/?hl=en[/URL]
[URL]https://findsocials.com/profile/_lamira[/URL][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=MyNickname;4419678]I've talked with her, she said 300 half day visit then she asked me if I could pay a bill she urgently needed to pay for today. When I said no she offered to show me photos and videos to trust her. I still said no. SCAM 100% She removed 'her' photos from her SA profile.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/36524f2e-2e97-451d-a55b-8bc5fa6827f5[/URL][/QUOTE]Same here. She agreed to 1200 mo then asked for money to fix her car via venmo. She refused to meet in person. Total scam.
[QUOTE=MyNickname;4419678]I've talked with her, she said 300 half day visit then she asked me if I could pay a bill she urgently needed to pay for today. When I said no she offered to show me photos and videos to trust her. I still said no. SCAM 100% She removed 'her' photos from her SA profile.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/36524f2e-2e97-451d-a55b-8bc5fa6827f5[/URL][/QUOTE]Same here. She agreed to 1200 mo then asked for money to fix her car via venmo. She refused to meet in person. Total scam.
[QUOTE=AK6571;4419594]Anybody seen her before? She has a reasonably detailed profile but looks like either a user or a pro.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/f1a8de03-1a5c-42a1-9fad-58313e421a2f[/URL][/QUOTE]Met with her once. It was hard to tell because she always kept her mouth tight when she talked, but looks like her 2 front teeth are rotted. And she is super skinny, so I'm guessing user. But it's only a guess.
I noticed the number of attempts to scam me in SA has gone up considerably. A lot want me to send money before anything else with different excuses for it. Another thing that is happening is those who want allowance for only social activities until they feel comfortable for more.
I also have noticed a lot of ladies doing the same tactic of going to SA to get a new guy to give them more allowance that they are currently getting from their current SD. That is the reason they are asking for ridiculous amounts like 500,600, 700,800, 1000 for a meet, that is because they already have a guy that is allowing them to look for some higher allowance.
I had a conversation with a couple of my current SBs because I saw them in the site and I contacted them using a different profile and found out they were asking for more than what I give them. I told them I found out what they were doing and that if they are not happy with my current allowance then we can end the arrangement and no hard feelings but that I was not going to wait for them to replace me for a guy that offers to give them more. I told them I would find out if they kept doing it and then we would end the arrangement immediately. Both took down their profiles because they didn't want to lose the allowance that allowed them to try to get something higher and that it was already good allowance for them.
[QUOTE=MyNickname;4421124]I noticed the number of attempts to scam me in SA has gone up considerably. A lot want me to send money before anything else with different excuses for it. Another thing that is happening is those who want allowance for only social activities until they feel comfortable for more.
I also have noticed a lot of ladies doing the same tactic of going to SA to get a new guy to give them more allowance that they are currently getting from their current SD. That is the reason they are asking for ridiculous amounts like 500,600, 700,800, 1000 for a meet, that is because they already have a guy that is allowing them to look for some higher allowance.
I had a conversation with a couple of my current SBs because I saw them in the site and I contacted them using a different profile and found out they were asking for more than what I give them. I told them I found out what they were doing and that if they are not happy with my current allowance then we can end the arrangement and no hard feelings but that I was not going to wait for them to replace me for a guy that offers to give them more. I told them I would find out if they kept doing it and then we would end the arrangement immediately. Both took down their profiles because they didn't want to lose the allowance that allowed them to try to get something higher and that it was already good allowance for them.[/QUOTE]Lmao what a savage. I recently started SA again. It takes a while to dig through them. Some say they want to meet and then don't reply after a couple texts or reply a day after. Honestly it takes like 5 seconds to text back and everyone has their phones on them 24/7, so if they take hours to reply, goodbye LOL luckyly theirs options but still gets annoying.
[QUOTE=Twister100;4418672]If I remember correctly, there were several previous posts on here warning about her as a ROB. She would periodically reappear on SA under different names and I believe she is or was on TNA as well.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/b9f358da-4946-470f-a03a-8425d485fa1b[/URL]
Just closing the loop on the various names she has used in the past that you can search and find reports on l.
Lovelyval23.
Ladybug1012.
She also had an friend went by LynnMaiMai.
Mostly lurked here for all the good info. Thought I would share. Check this one. Down for just about everything, covers optional:
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/fd2c6adc-af07-4f61-94a7-bcb748f6bdef[/URL]
Your welcome.
[QUOTE=Twister100;4421619][URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/b9f358da-4946-470f-a03a-8425d485fa1b[/URL]
Just closing the loop on the various names she has used in the past that you can search and find reports on l.
Lovelyval23.
Ladybug1012.
She also had an friend went by LynnMaiMai.[/QUOTE]I remember back when she was scamming with LynnMaiMai. It's a shame that she feels the need to try to rob guys of their money. If she just used her sexy powers for good, not evil, she would make some serious bank!
Has anyone here actually been with her beyond the meet & greet scam she usually pulls?
Don't have a link to her direct profile, blonde. 18 in Bremerton. Worth the trip though, 200 everything available, VERY tight. Pumped two loads into her and she was begging for more. Loves spanking and rough play. Doesn't like CIM though.
She will give you the platonic line but once you are with her she opens up, literally very wet.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/1bd34e05-477c-402b-a087-8da874bcd74a[/URL]
Says her name is Adriana. Said she doesn't do meetups till we do pictures or videos first. Not the best grammar in her message so initially I thought she meant she wanted to exchange pictures or video chat but upon further review I believe she wants to sell either pictures or videos first. Tried to confirm but haven't heard back. Anyone else have any dealings with her?
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/21b2d217-609b-47e8-9bb7-5ce0d8bf8793[/URL]
She's a little bigger than her pictures, big boobs though but honestly was not my thing. Was ok with multiple hours with 2. 5 $ but I just couldn't get into it. The vibe I got from her was just not for me. So if you guys would like to try it out, all you.
Tried posting this earlier but has not posted so trying again. Love Already Famous blurrs the line between SB and Pro. She is amazing though and covers are optional.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/fd2c6adc-af07-4f61-94a7-bcb748f6bdef[/URL]
[QUOTE=StoryTime40;4422234]Tried posting this earlier but has not posted so trying again. Love Already Famous blurrs the line between SB and Pro. She is amazing though and covers are optional.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/fd2c6adc-af07-4f61-94a7-bcb748f6bdef[/URL][/QUOTE]What was the damage?
[QUOTE=DelToro;4422437]What was the damage?[/QUOTE]300 for the hour; 5 $ or two hours. 2 xCIP in the hour.
The Richmond, VA forum also has some good posts on dealing with this.
[QUOTE=MyNickname;4421124]I noticed the number of attempts to scam me in SA has gone up considerably. A lot want me to send money before anything else with different excuses for it. Another thing that is happening is those who want allowance for only social activities until they feel comfortable for more.
I also have noticed a lot of ladies doing the same tactic of going to SA to get a new guy to give them more allowance that they are currently getting from their current SD. That is the reason they are asking for ridiculous amounts like 500,600, 700,800, 1000 for a meet, that is because they already have a guy that is allowing them to look for some higher allowance.
I had a conversation with a couple of my current SBs because I saw them in the site and I contacted them using a different profile and found out they were asking for more than what I give them. I told them I found out what they were doing and that if they are not happy with my current allowance then we can end the arrangement and no hard feelings but that I was not going to wait for them to replace me for a guy that offers to give them more. I told them I would find out if they kept doing it and then we would end the arrangement immediately. Both took down their profiles because they didn't want to lose the allowance that allowed them to try to get something higher and that it was already good allowance for them.[/QUOTE]
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/4c4179c6-15c3-4637-8ca2-6bc9d683836b[/URL]
2500-4k/month.
BelleAnna
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/ecf67da1-aafa-46f9-bd9b-3f61d1b6ce31[/URL]
She said she wanted both an allowance & ppm. I follow up and ask for the actual amounts.
Scammer ProfessionalSB.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/0a276337-6215-48f3-818f-9e345faa3609[/URL]
Pictures are of premium nude snapchat picture seller Jenna Jade. Either it's actually Jenna and she's just trying to drive more biz to her site or someone is pretending those pictures are them. Either way a waste of time.
[URL]https://www.instagram.com/jennajjade/?hl=en[/URL]
[URL]https://www.amateurscrush.com/girlfriend/jenna-jade-premium-nude-snapchat-pics/[/URL]
[QUOTE=DrTraveler;4418615]She's been on and off SA under various names. Beautiful and amazing body, but a dead fish in bed. Promises one thing, takes your gift up front, and then completely fails to deliver. Don't waste your time!
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/b9f358da-4946-470f-a03a-8425d485fa1b[/URL][/QUOTE]Very sad as wonderful body, awesome daty, BBFS allowed but no cip, dressed immediately. Waste of a beautiful lady. I erased her private number so I would not repeat as I don't trust myself. It's a time sensitive job, that she has perfected.
[QUOTE=StoryTime40;4422456]300 for the hour; 5 $ or two hours. 2 xCIP in the hour.[/QUOTE]You're the reason these chicks ask for so much lmao Your the guy this forum complains about. To each his own I guess. Sounds like a pro though, if she's asking for hourly.
[QUOTE=HBadger;4423035]You're the reason these chicks ask for so much lmao Your the guy this forum complains about. To each his own I guess. Sounds like a pro though, if she's asking for hourly.[/QUOTE]She does look super yummy.
But yeah what's the point to go to SA to pay hourly inflated rates.
First, thanks for all the tips on this site. I now know that last year I was paying way too much for PPMs. I think $250/300 for multi-hour dates are the accepted norm here. But I'm still trying to understand what a good monthly arrangement is. Is it in the neighborhood of $2000 with 6 or 8 visits per month? Thanks.
[QUOTE=JustRandy;4422925]Very sad as wonderful body, awesome daty, BBFS allowed but no cip, dressed immediately. Waste of a beautiful lady. I erased her private number so I would not repeat as I don't trust myself. It's a time sensitive job, that she has perfected.[/QUOTE]I wrote a rob report on her and her friend- a thicker asian girl with glasses. After Valerie took donation, menu dried up immediately, knock on door a few minutes later. Wouldn't give back donation.
Lesson learned: never give donation first.
[QUOTE=Toomgis;4423087]First, thanks for all the tips on this site. I now know that last year I was paying way too much for PPMs. I think $250/300 for multi-hour dates are the accepted norm here. But I'm still trying to understand what a good monthly arrangement is. Is it in the neighborhood of $2000 with 6 or 8 visits per month? Thanks.[/QUOTE]It's whatever you can work out with the SB. I know some SB's have mentioned 500 ppm or 3000/ month as a "gold standard" so I can only assume they have been reading some BS blog about sugaring. I think most of the smart ones understand that perhaps there is an ideal out there but what they can realistically get may be quite different. Some obviously have a budget goal so they are just saying 500 ppm for 6 visits or 3000 monthly for how many visits you want or some variation on that math. Personally I avoid the ones that see sugaring as the primary income. I rather spend a bit more effort and find a SB that is looking to supplement their income and have a good time. They usually are more willing to negotiate.
[QUOTE=Toomgis;4423087]First, thanks for all the tips on this site. I now know that last year I was paying way too much for PPMs. I think $250/300 for multi-hour dates are the accepted norm here. But I'm still trying to understand what a good monthly arrangement is. Is it in the neighborhood of $2000 with 6 or 8 visits per month? Thanks.[/QUOTE]I've only had one monthly arrangement, and the rate per meeting was a bit higher than I typically do for a PPM. I really liked her, and she was coming from far away to see me so it was worth it for me. I gave her $1,4000 a month and we would see each other once a week for about 3-4 hours.
[QUOTE=Twister100;4423122]It's whatever you can work out with the SB. I know some SB's have mentioned 500 ppm or 3000/ month as a "gold standard" so I can only assume they have been reading some BS blog about sugaring. I think most of the smart ones understand that perhaps there is an ideal out there but what they can realistically get may be quite different. Some obviously have a budget goal so they are just saying 500 ppm for 6 visits or 3000 monthly for how many visits you want or some variation on that math. Personally I avoid the ones that see sugaring as the primary income. I rather spend a bit more effort and find a SB that is looking to supplement their income and have a good time. They usually are more willing to negotiate.[/QUOTE]If they're just looking for some extra income, those ladies are generally the ones that are the best. All they want is to have fun and a little extra money. I don't care how hot she is, I'm not willing to pay over 300 ppm anymore. No putang is worth that much in my opinion. But again, to each his own. Obviously some of these guys have more money than me and they can do whatever they want LOL.
[QUOTE=HBadger;4423266]If they're just looking for some extra income, those ladies are generally the ones that are the best. All they want is to have fun and a little extra money. I don't care how hot she is, I'm not willing to pay over 300 ppm anymore. No putang is worth that much in my opinion. But again, to each his own. Obviously some of these guys have more money than me and they can do whatever they want LOL.[/QUOTE]I do have to say that everyone that wanted $400-500 for a ppm and I've told them it's more than I'm willing to spend have come back later (sometimes a month or two) with a lower amount. That being said, I never took any of them up on it. I had already moved on. For flat allowances, I've paid $750-2000 month (payable weekly) + dinner, drinks and other gifts. The ladies that I paid the higher amounts to ($1750-2000) became really complacent really quick and the hot sex in the first week or two became very vanilla boring sex by about week 5-6.
[QUOTE=Michael1967;4423291]I do have to say that everyone that wanted $400-500 for a ppm and I've told them it's more than I'm willing to spend have come back later (sometimes a month or two) with a lower amount. That being said, I never took any of them up on it. I had already moved on. For flat allowances, I've paid $750-2000 month (payable weekly) + dinner, drinks and other gifts. The ladies that I paid the higher amounts to ($1750-2000) became really complacent really quick and the hot sex in the first week or two became very vanilla boring sex by about week 5-6.[/QUOTE]I think that's a really good point about the ladies getting complacent. If they see it as a job, there is a tendency to just mail it in after awhile whereas the ones that are looking to get their freak on are there for more than the $ so they tend to keep it fresh.