The Ron situation (everybody don't even jump in)
Man.
You are lucky, that a friend of mind on this board cosigned you. He said you was a good guy.
I don't even know where this comes from. I don't personally attack hobbyists. I am not going to drag other hobbyists into this.
Number 1, my reputation has never changed, people know I am a pro hobbyist 100 percent.
I defended guys that everybody turned their back on. It was me, false accusations on hobbyists, hobbyists getting ripped off. I come out and defend the situation. I never say "well you know, you should just let that go, or maybe the ho thought you did something to her"."Maybe you didn't speak to her nicely that is why you got ripped off". F that.
No that is bs, wrong is wrong, I don't care how desperate a woman is.
This is not a fancy restaurant or a board meeting. This is a hobbyist board. You are confused at to what this board is. You will have different personalities here.
You come back and run you're mouth when you are broke and see if those girls will see you. Since you believe that is going to happen.
I haven't seen that happen in 10 years, and I have seen BETTER HOBBYISTS that have done more than you.
The game is not designed to have personal feelings involved. I don't give a damn what you think about me.
I just think you are using me to get free sex, which is fine with me. You want to be in the good graces of the hos.
I am not going to lay back and let you get away with that. You want a ho discount or something, don't use the Pinoboy conflict to get it!
Trust me, I could have done that and be like "hey ho, that was wrong what Pino said, can I get the sugar lips? Anybody can do that!
You just don't do that, at least not blatantly.
You better try that game on someone else. You want the hos to like you so bad.
You need to worry about hobbyists being okay with you. Hos can't save you from LE, you remember that!
We keep the same this whole game "safe" for all hobbyists.
1 girl can easily flip for law enforcement or actually be police. What are you going to do then? Blame yourself right?
You are worried about my grammar and spelling. You can spell you're name right when you are bonding out.
See how much people care when that happens.
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You have a nice day. Stop being a suck up.
I hope your grossly exaggerating!
[QUOTE=Mikaeles;1456504]Several of them also will protect you from the cops if they get busted the good ones only give the cops some info not all of it. It would be bad business if you have a client that spends 15k a year on you why would U-turn him into the cops![/QUOTE]Please tell me you're not spending any where near that amount on one provider!
And to Irvingtonp, I must say it's good to see someone here on this board with a sense of reality who sees my point of view regarding the aforementioned.
SW's versus BP and USASG girls
I wanted to put my. 02 on this one particular subject that was brought up.
First off, yes I have certainly dreamed of many SW's in my life. I don't see any right now. I can assure you that I have covered up with every single one of them and all providers for FS. I also assure you that I've never done Greek with any one of them nor with any other girl. Truth be told, I've never done Greek even once in my entire life. But, I digress.
Yes, both girls engage in the same activity. The difference is in the volume and quality of clients. SW's are generally much higher volume than BP girls. Pretty much every single one of them is into heavy drugs. I can probably bet that not one single monger on here has ever had an SW ask him to give her references. SW's take on all comers. Many of them are into riskier sexual behavior than BP or USA girls. They see scarier clients than many BP or USA girls. This probably puts them at a greater chance to have STD's than the other girls.
I think this is the thought process NaNa had on that subject when she made her post about you know who. We all know my feelings towards PB and I applaud NaNa for standing up for herself.
NaNa is a sweet girl and I'm very happy to see her whenever I can. She is as safe as she can be in this business and a good judge of character. I've found her to be quite reliable and communicates well with me.
Everyone knows that I recommend NaNa wholeheartedly. Those of you that don't see her are missing out on someone very, very special. Her skills are absolutely incredible and her personality is charming. She's the total package, plain and simple.
Oh boy, Hobbyists vs Pinoboy (I really didn
Dear Hobbyists.
I have the read commentary on both sides. For the record I got no problem with Ron, that's my homey's friend on this board as well.
I was angry at the time concerning his comments towards me at that time. It is water under the bridge.
I have talked to several hobbyists behind the scenes on both sides of the coin, some support Pinoboy and some don't. I am aware of this.
However, all this infighting and things the "next man" does in the bedroom with the providers. I got really mixed feelings about this here.
If you past Judgement on Pinoboy and act like you ain't participated in barebacking hos, or hos swallowing or whatever they do. You can't really get self righteous concerning Pinoboy. The providers can always say "no" to sexual fetishes.
At the end of the day, she can say no to certain sexual things. Now do I participate in "fisting" or "nasty stuff", not my thing to humiliate a woman. Me personally, I rather "believe' she enjoys the session. My motto, I don't force anybody do anything, take your bags and leave.
I don't pay to have "vanilla sex". If that was the case, we would stay with our wife or girlfriend. Generally, the reason men like me are in the game is for the excitement, not so much the sex. I get a rush getting her, everything else is a disappointment at times. Honestly, I am mad at myself. I am like she should pay me. LOL Real talk.
Now can hobbyists go "overboard", borderline criminal behavior. I can't call it but some guys that get into with a provider. They damn near called the police on him. Everybody know about that incident. Turns on he ain't do nothing wrong, she was doing that pump and dump deal or whatever she was doing. His track record was stellar on the board. Yet guys turned on him. I reached out to him and we are good friends.
On the internet is blown up, most of the guys off this board is cool. I just kind of laugh at the blog beef.
Let me back to the subject at hand, that incident is over with.
I said this before, if you are barebacking any woman you are taking a risk. I don't care if she one of "elite backpage girls". People keep saying well he does this with street walkers and blah blah. Half the backpage girls are on the street, what are you saying?
God bless the girls that 'deny this", I see them firsthand. I am not in the business of naming names. The same hobbyists knocking Pinoboy KNOWS BP girls be on the street and SAY NOTHING.
So if they are on the street right, more than likely a slick hobbyists can convince them to do bareback. I am just keeping it real here.
Again, I am honest with myself here. I can't pass judgement on Pinoboy when at least 1 point in you're life you did some wild shit with a provider. I am not talking about spanking girls on the rag, fisting them, anal bareback sex. Bareback anything got a risk to it.
What; s the difference if you have sex with a provider and she forgot to tell you, she was on her period. Hmm That might have happened to me 3 times and I quit the session immediately man.
Lastly, we really need to reevaluate our attitude towards hobbyists and stop acting self righteous here. I have sympathy for providers on dope, but I can't stop them from doing weird sexual crap for a "hit". To attack Pinoboy, when we know many of us kind of do the same thing (but want to keep it hush hush). I don't like Pinboboy being the 'fall guy" because many of us on the board kind of do the same thing on a smaller scale. You may not bareback a street walker but you do a backpage girl (like that is safer). Stop drinking the koolaid. There is a risk with everything.
I think we don't need to go down this road. What's next at this point, oh the hobbyist, he likes to squirt on my face?
This hobby is really not for vanilla sex, I don't know 1 guy that says, you know what I just want missionary and that's it. LOL.
Personally, I think the providers can say no to weird sex. Hobbyists will not listen to each other, men do what they want to do.
I am not going to tell another guy stop what he is doing because I don't like it. I wouldn't want someone to say that to me, if I sincerely believe its just freaky sex.
Oh yeah, the Nana situation. I never met the woman, she made her point. She just kept on and on and she mentioned streetwalkers. The guys that see her, see streetwalkers (at least once). I think she kind of lost herself a little bit. The same thing I tell Jersey girl, you can never win an argument among hobbyists and eventually they will turn on you.
That has been my experience with arguments sparked by a provider. The hobbyists get mad at each other, and the girl disappears, nobody messes with her anymore.
For the record, weird sex is not against the law man. It maybe crazy and foolish but its not against the law.
Providers can say no, I will repeat it over and over again.
Light what's up man and Vino I value you're opinion. I had to really sit down and think about this.
Oh boy, Hobbyists vs Pinoboy
[QUOTE=Irvingtonp; 1457017]Dear Hobbyists.
For the record, weird sex is not against the law man. It maybe crazy and foolish but its not against the law.
Providers can say no, I will repeat it over and over again.
Light what's up man and Vino I value you're opinion. I had to really sit down and think about this.[/QUOTE]You are absolutely correct about the BP gals most if not more then half do rotate between working the Internet on BP and Street walking, and their rates as SW are far less then they charge on BP! Although I'm not into SW any more at my age, if You've been in this hobby for many many years as I have then you also may have been lucky enough to run into some drop dead gorgeous SW in your day as well LOL.
I'll start by saying that even though the ignore feature is a great even priceless tool have and activate if your having an issue with a specific monger on this forum.
If you don't like or agree with this mongers over the top extremely risky even deadly sexual practices and behaviors the other option would be to place his ass on ignore!
Logging out allows you to still see all of the forum post this suicidal maniac is reporting on the forum even if he has you on ignore.
True is, this monger PB is the last monger on this great forum that I would ever think to place on ignore just because his reports on dreams are just that valuable to us all when it comes to making a life threatening decision to see the provider he has seen or avoid her like the plague because he's seen her.
Although he seems to likes to follow the girls I have dreamed of so that he can dream with them as well.
I put every gal this monger has seen before or after me on my avoid like the plague list, for my own personal safety and health!
Therefore let's cut this monger some slack and instead learn from him who we should be avoiding! So instead of flaming and bashing PB we should all commend and encourage him to keep posting reports of his dreams and encounters to help us weed out drop and avoid those providers like a bad habit for our own safety.
I'm sure PB may be a great guy in his life out side of this hobby, but that doesn't mean that I want to come into contact with any providers he has seen base on his reckless sexual practices and behaviors.
All it takes is one visit from PB to one of the unsuspecting fine providers of this great forum offering special sexual favors and fetishes to end up possibly contracting something the could ultimately wipe out many mongers here who think that because you stick with the same few safe providers nothing can ever go wrong.
Well if that's you and the shoe fits, wear it! Because it's a wake up call this monger is a threat!
There is some good that comes out of every bad situation!
With PB, he's like a Tornado that leave a path of possible devastation and possibly deadly destruction!
But thanks to this great forum that allows an gives us the advantage to be able to keep and eye on where he has struck and may strike next.
That my friends is fucking priceless information!
Let's not keep flaming this monger in an effort to educate him or run him off!
He's a very valuable asset to this forum and you must respect the fact that he's willing to share and show us all what behaviors will soon lead him to soon end up finishing out his days with H. I. V Aids! OP
