Massage Parlor Reports

[QUOTE=Cash Value]This is the place around the corner from the best pizza place on valley. Pizza has been there for ever. Anyway I forgot who asked me about the girls here. I think lots of tired different girls here and most talk about Lola. The one I like the most is Jenny, shes young, real cute and thin. Love the way she does her HE with one hand stroke then the other...one slow long stroke at a time.[/QUOTE]
I hit this joint and it's pretty good. Thanks for the recon, CV! To chime in, Jenny's young looking, but is probably early or mid 30's.

You the man, CV!

Bender

[QUOTE=Beardpapa]Just drove back from out of town tired needing a 'massage' so popped a V an hr beforehand and decided to hit up HT. In comes Yumi, early to mid 20s spinner kogal with very soft see bolt-ons. Had a little conversation with her and was sad to hear Sunny had left.

Was disappointed with the massage. She brushed her fingers against my back, pressed her chest against me, and told me to turn around after less than 5 minutes. I asked her "so fast? " and she says "yes hunny" and whips out the hat. Gave a boring CBJ, she got to 69 but she didn't even rest low enough for me to DATY. I had to make jr wake up and eventually she got on cg but she just sorta sat there. After about 1-2 min she wanted mish. At this point jr wasn't interested so I told her I was just tired. Quite sad considering I popped a V expecting a good time.

She gave me hugs/kisses and I gave her. 8 to be nice. Which surprisingly was suddenly a big turn off. Now I know the girls at HT never really discuss donation, but she was quick to count how much I donated and kept pressuring me for .2 more. I told her I didn't have any more and expected .6 .8 [since the previous masseuse accepted .6 happily]. She kept pressuring me anyways and checked my wallet even, then gave me a disapproving look and told me "next time you come here with more. " I came out with mms giving me several drinks and asking me what was wrong. I told her I was just tired. Mms had always been nice to me so best for me to maintain that relationship.

Maybe she had a long day? She told me she worked all day. Maybe she had many customers? Or maybe she's just plain bad? Or has HT become so popular that they're expecting more?

Now I know Yumi was mentioned in this thread, I don't recall reading a review about her, so maybe I had her on a bad day. Anyway, when it comes to looks Yumi is like an 8 but the performance was definitely a 2-3.[/QUOTE]

I reviewed Yumi and it is just a few posts down from yours (the next page). My experience was similar - rushed and mechanical service from a girl who I would regard as extraordinarily good looking. However, I felt I had her "broken down" by the end of the session to the point where if I had done a repeat session a week or two later her service would have improved markedly. But I'm just speculating based on previous experiences with robotic pros who can be "marinated" over time.

As to price, I'm surprised you found anybody at this place who would be happy with a .6 donation with FS in the program. My experience throughout BP is $ is expected for FS and I have encountered some seriously overreaching girls who pressured for more (unsuccessfully). In fact, I can't think of any area of SoCal where the going rate for FS would be less than $, though I've encountered a handful of isolated locations where smaller tips appeared to be a norm for FS - though these places tended to be rub and tug joints where only some of the girls would go beyond HJ as opposed to places in BP like HT and GS which are hardcore FS establishments.

[QUOTE=The Camel]I reviewed Yumi and it is just a few posts down from yours (the next page). My experience was similar - rushed and mechanical service from a girl who I would regard as extraordinarily good looking. However, I felt I had her "broken down" by the end of the session to the point where if I had done a repeat session a week or two later her service would have improved markedly. But I'm just speculating based on previous experiences with robotic pros who can be "marinated" over time.

As to price, I'm surprised you found anybody at this place who would be happy with a .6 donation with FS in the program. My experience throughout BP is $ is expected for FS and I have encountered some seriously overreaching girls who pressured for more (unsuccessfully). In fact, I can't think of any area of SoCal where the going rate for FS would be less than $, though I've encountered a handful of isolated locations where smaller tips appeared to be a norm for FS - though these places tended to be rub and tug joints where only some of the girls would go beyond HJ as opposed to places in BP like HT and GS which are hardcore FS establishments.[/QUOTE]

Hey Camel I always enjoy reading your reports. Can you give us a sample on how you would break down an MP girl.

[QUOTE=HugoTheMan]Hey Camel I always enjoy reading your reports. Can you give us a sample on how you would break down an MP girl.[/QUOTE]

Bottom line is if the provider is hardcore mechanical, it means she just sees you as a hard dick that needs to be processed - she's not seeing you as a human being. Some mongers similarly see providers that way - i.e. just a warm lubricated orifice to get off in - something less than human. So yeah, we dehumanize each other, and that works just fine for many.

An old perv like me has had enough pure sex in my life so that I don't feel like I want to spend time and money unless I can feel some kind of human connection with my partner and achieve what we call GFE - some decent level of true intimacy. A girl as pretty as Yumi is worth turning into a project if she shows some potential in the first session, and she did.

The most universal tool is humor - make the girl laugh and you start to break through. Being in my early AARP years, I can get away with some corny shit that some younger guys can't. So I will turn on classic romantic charm - heartfelt compliments, conversation that probes what matters to her and then you can touch her. Many of these girls are accustomed to fairly rough treatment by the men in their lives and don't get "sweet talked" very much, and at least some of them really respond to it.

I hold and touch the girls in more of a romantic way than a sexual way - at first. Hands through her hair, soft caresses of her face, the nape of the neck - body parts that connect me to her as a person and not just a mouth and pussy. Kiss the girl very gently at first - no instant tongue assaults, no instant digital penetration of the pussy - and let things try to find a natural course as in real life. Once I've broken through to a certain degree, than I'll really ramp up the sexual angle and dirty talk - want her to understand that I will expect extras like BBBJ down the line along with GFE attitude.

So what am I talking about? Plain and simple it is gentle seduction. Treat the provider the same way you would a girl you are out on a date with. Most guys don't approach a provider thinking about seducing her. But if she's super hot and remote, you have nothing to lose because you are already stuck in a crappy session albeit with good visuals. So go for the glory. Come back the next time and it will be much better even than the normal increment in service you expect from repeat business. Maybe by the 2nd or 3rd visit she starts treating you like a boyfriend.

I think it is also important to book hours instead of half hours when possible. That takes the girl off her normal "get 'em in, get 'em off, get 'em out" programming. It allows for slow going to perform some of your game - it allows for cuddle time before and after. In a FS setting, I will have the girl lie side by side with me on the table as if I were in bed with a girlfriend, and just hug, cuddle, caress, kiss gently, speak softly and as poetically as I can. I'm a love maker, not a fuck machine. Not everybody's cup of bodily fluids with a provider, but it works for me.

Also, guys should not simply go along with the provider's by the numbers approach to how she will conduct the session. I want to direct my own porn scene and I make every effort, again in gentle and subtle ways, to take control of the session. This has to be done very delicately or you come off as a bully instead of a seducer. So your directions come with sweet and funny reassurances.

Of course there can be insurmountable language problems. I can work it in English and Spanish, but forget about Korean or any other language. So my best rides tend to come with the latinas, but not always. As I wrote in my Yumi review, I now know that many of these K-girls are faking the absence of English skills because it aids them in maintaining the distance from their customers that they are programmed for, and they can simply ignore customer's directing them on what to do to make it more pleasurable. You know you are breaking through when all of a sudden it is apparent that they are understanding you much better than they portrayed at the outset of the session. This is what happened with Yumi and I. She spoke virtually no English in the first 20 minutes, but once I established to her that I could be cool and funny, she broke down and was communicative as hell as the session neared conclusion, because she was now eager to engage with me instead of just process me. However, I haven't been able to get back there, so the momentum established is draining.

So that's the final point - you keep the project moving by returning to see the girl within a reasonably short period of time - at least not more than a month later. But they do have fairly good memories for customers who stood out to them.

[QUOTE=The Camel]Bottom line is if the provider is hardcore mechanical, it means she just sees you as a hard dick that needs to be processed - she's not seeing you as a human being. Some mongers similarly see providers that way - i.e. just a warm lubricated orifice to get off in - something less than human. So yeah, we dehumanize each other, and that works just fine for many.

An old perv like me has had enough pure sex in my life so that I don't feel like I want to spend time and money unless I can feel some kind of human connection with my partner and achieve what we call GFE - some decent level of true intimacy. A girl as pretty as Yumi is worth turning into a project if she shows some potential in the first session, and she did.

The most universal tool is humor - make the girl laugh and you start to break through. Being in my early AARP years, I can get away with some corny shit that some younger guys can't. So I will turn on classic romantic charm - heartfelt compliments, conversation that probes what matters to her and then you can touch her. Many of these girls are accustomed to fairly rough treatment by the men in their lives and don't get "sweet talked" very much, and at least some of them really respond to it.

I hold and touch the girls in more of a romantic way than a sexual way - at first. Hands through her hair, soft caresses of her face, the nape of the neck - body parts that connect me to her as a person and not just a mouth and pussy. Kiss the girl very gently at first - no instant tongue assaults, no instant digital penetration of the pussy - and let things try to find a natural course as in real life. Once I've broken through to a certain degree, than I'll really ramp up the sexual angle and dirty talk - want her to understand that I will expect extras like BBBJ down the line along with GFE attitude.

So what am I talking about? Plain and simple it is gentle seduction. Treat the provider the same way you would a girl you are out on a date with. Most guys don't approach a provider thinking about seducing her. But if she's super hot and remote, you have nothing to lose because you are already stuck in a crappy session albeit with good visuals. So go for the glory. Come back the next time and it will be much better even than the normal increment in service you expect from repeat business. Maybe by the 2nd or 3rd visit she starts treating you like a boyfriend.

I think it is also important to book hours instead of half hours when possible. That takes the girl off her normal "get 'em in, get 'em off, get 'em out" programming. It allows for slow going to perform some of your game - it allows for cuddle time before and after. In a FS setting, I will have the girl lie side by side with me on the table as if I were in bed with a girlfriend, and just hug, cuddle, caress, kiss gently, speak softly and as poetically as I can. I'm a love maker, not a fuck machine. Not everybody's cup of bodily fluids with a provider, but it works for me.

Also, guys should not simply go along with the provider's by the numbers approach to how she will conduct the session. I want to direct my own porn scene and I make every effort, again in gentle and subtle ways, to take control of the session. This has to be done very delicately or you come off as a bully instead of a seducer. So your directions come with sweet and funny reassurances.

Of course there can be insurmountable language problems. I can work it in English and Spanish, but forget about Korean or any other language. So my best rides tend to come with the latinas, but not always. As I wrote in my Yumi review, I now know that many of these K-girls are faking the absence of English skills because it aids them in maintaining the distance from their customers that they are programmed for, and they can simply ignore customer's directing them on what to do to make it more pleasurable. You know you are breaking through when all of a sudden it is apparent that they are understanding you much better than they portrayed at the outset of the session. This is what happened with Yumi and I. She spoke virtually no English in the first 20 minutes, but once I established to her that I could be cool and funny, she broke down and was communicative as hell as the session neared conclusion, because she was now eager to engage with me instead of just process me. However, I haven't been able to get back there, so the momentum established is draining.

So that's the final point - you keep the project moving by returning to see the girl within a reasonably short period of time - at least not more than a month later. But they do have fairly good memories for customers who stood out to them.[/QUOTE]
Awesome analysis, bro!!!

[QUOTE=B Malibu]Awesome analysis, bro!!![/QUOTE]

Dont make me laugh....no way you read that whole post!!!

[QUOTE=The Camel]Bottom line is if the provider is hardcore mechanical, it means she just sees you as a hard dick that needs to be processed. She's not seeing you as a human being. Some mongers similarly see providers that way. I. E. Just a warm lubricated orifice to get off in. Something less than human. So yeah, we dehumanize each other, and that works just fine for many.

An old perv like me has had enough pure sex in my life so that I don't feel like I want to spend time and money unless I can feel some kind of human connection with my partner and achieve what we call GFE. Some decent level of true intimacy. A girl as pretty as Yumi is worth turning into a project if she shows some potential in the first session, and she did.

The most universal tool is humor. Make the girl laugh and you start to break through. Being in my early AARP years, I can get away with some corny shit that some younger guys can't. So I will turn on classic romantic charm. Heartfelt compliments, conversation that probes what matters to her and then you can touch her. Many of these girls are accustomed to fairly rough treatment by the men in their lives and don't get "sweet talked" very much, and at least some of them really respond to it.

I hold and touch the girls in more of a romantic way than a sexual way. At first. Hands through her hair, soft caresses of her face, the nape of the neck. Body parts that connect me to her as a person and not just a mouth and pussy. Kiss the girl very gently at first. No instant tongue assaults, no instant digital penetration of the pussy. And let things try to find a natural course as in real life. Once I've broken through to a certain degree, than I'll really ramp up the sexual angle and dirty talk. Want her to understand that I will expect extras like BBBJ down the line along with GFE attitude.

So what am I talking about? Plain and simple it is gentle seduction. Treat the provider the same way you would a girl you are out on a date with. Most guys don't approach a provider thinking about seducing her. But if she's super hot and remote, you have nothing to lose because you are already stuck in a crappy session albeit with good visuals. So go for the glory. Come back the next time and it will be much better even than the normal increment in service you expect from repeat business. Maybe by the 2nd or 3rd visit she starts treating you like a boyfriend.

I think it is also important to book hours instead of half hours when possible. That takes the girl off her normal "get 'them in, get 'them off, get 'them out" programming. It allows for slow going to perform some of your game. It allows for cuddle time before and after. In a FS setting, I will have the girl lie side by side with me on the table as if I were in bed with a girlfriend, and just hug, cuddle, caress, kiss gently, speak softly and as poetically as I can. I'm a love maker, not a fuck machine. Not everybody's cup of bodily fluids with a provider, but it works for me.

Also, guys should not simply go along with the provider's by the numbers approach to how she will conduct the session. I want to direct my own porn scene and I make every effort, again in gentle and subtle ways, to take control of the session. This has to be done very delicately or you come off as a bully instead of a seducer. So your directions come with sweet and funny reassurances.

Of course there can be insurmountable language problems. I can work it in English and Spanish, but forget about Korean or any other language. So my best rides tend to come with the latinas, but not always. As I wrote in my Yumi review, I now know that many of these K-girls are faking the absence of English skills because it aids them in maintaining the distance from their customers that they are programmed for, and they can simply ignore customer's directing them on what to do to make it more pleasurable. You know you are breaking through when all of a sudden it is apparent that they are understanding you much better than they portrayed at the outset of the session. This is what happened with Yumi and I. She spoke virtually no English in the first 20 minutes, but once I established to her that I could be cool and funny, she broke down and was communicative as hell as the session neared conclusion, because she was now eager to engage with me instead of just process me. However, I haven't been able to get back there, so the momentum established is draining.

So that's the final point. You keep the project moving by returning to see the girl within a reasonably short period of time. At least not more than a month later. But they do have fairly good memories for customers who stood out to them.[/QUOTE]Interesting. I used to use the same approach with some stripppers and still do to this day. First thing, however, is I let them know that I am aware of the stripper world and how the business works. But I use an old saying a British friend of mine used to say. "You can never be too polite in the UK. " And I've always used that. However, no matter how polite I may come across, I'm still very ornery and sarcastic. Like a bratty little brother. But never rude or hurtful in any manner.

This accomplishes much of what Camel is saying, you stand out. You're not a douche, and you're not being 'processed' but it takes a few times to start making a mark.

When I would frequent the Paradise in Arcadia I would have the girls giving me their number or asking for mine all the time. I ended up making a few life friends from them who still call me to this day for coffee or tea or. A really good time. It takes some patience and investment though.

[QUOTE=Cash Value]Dont make me laugh....no way you read that whole post!!![/QUOTE]
I actually did because Camel can actually put together quite a report. I've popped wood reading some of his literature.

[QUOTE=B Malibu]I actually did because Camel can actually put together quite a report. I've popped wood reading some of his literature.[/QUOTE]

Yeah I was just jealous cause most of mine are off my iphone while im eating breakfast somewhere or Im at a work site. Im going to Lancaster today and while Im there gonna try an independent girl I saw online. She looks kinda skanky but I just want a skanky bj anyway.

[QUOTE=Cash Value]Yeah I was just jealous cause most of mine are off my iphone while im eating breakfast somewhere or Im at a work site. Im going to Lancaster today and while Im there gonna try an independent girl I saw online. She looks kinda skanky but I just want a skanky bj anyway.[/QUOTE]I get up to the high desert once or twice a month. I'd like to find some decent providers up there. The ads I've seen up in that area are fugly.

Please post your BJ encounter. Nutzoid

Great insight Camel thanks to people like you , B Mal and cash value for making this sight such a learning experience. I hope someday are paths cross in a COI strip club so I can learn more about the meaning of life and Ho's. I keep looking for B Mal's watch when I'am at the Bird, just give me a clue on what to look for so I know I have crossed paths with the Camel

[QUOTE=Cash Value]This is the place around the corner from the best pizza place on valley. Pizza has been there for ever. Anyway I forgot who asked me about the girls here. I think lots of tired different girls here and most talk about Lola. The one I like the most is Jenny, shes young, real cute and thin. Love the way she does her HE with one hand stroke then the other. One slow long stroke at a time.[/QUOTE]Went there a few days after your post and what a great place. Jenny was just like you described physically and had a very sweet manner to her. Above average massage and no complaints about the HE. I am semi new to this and have been wondering how much do you guys tip this kind of service?

[QUOTE=Snubit]Went there a few days after your post and what a great place. Jenny was just like you described physically and had a very sweet manner to her. Above average massage and no complaints about the HE. I am semi new to this and have been wondering how much do you guys tip this kind of service?[/QUOTE]



Snubit,

Question is what did you tip? lol, not what we tip.

PC out

[QUOTE=Pcpc1688]Snubit,

Question is what did you tip? lol, not what we tip.

PC out[/QUOTE]Tipped her .3

[QUOTE=Snubit]Tipped her .3[/QUOTE]
Add another .10 and the girl will be happy.