Strip Club Reports

[QUOTE=Ozymandias;3005062]Strokers is pretty low-mileage, unless it's changed recently.

It's not even that good for take-out, unless the dancer is already escorting on the side (and some do).

O.[/QUOTE]Damn, that doesn't sound good at all. My strategy is to talk to the girls and let them know what I'm looking for and what they're cool with.

When they approach and ask if I want a dance, I will reply: "what are your rules?" "I like to be hands on. ".

The worst thing they can say is no, right??

And then after the first dance, I'll push them off if they aren't grinding the way I like.

I agree with most of the bloggers who quoted your post. Strokers does allow contact due to the fact it's a strip club and not a gentleman club. The girls can get in trouble if you touch their tacos and you can too. The police waits outside during the night and can be summoned during the daytime. To my knowledge there's only 3 girls who mess around with that takeout stuff and two of them are not attractive at all! You're better off spending your money on Glenwood or Belevdere than on these two broads trust me. The other chick she was under 21 got busted for DUI she claimed a customer gave her some alcohol and she's fighting to get her stripper license back. The end result is now all the girls over the age 20 wears red arm bands to signifying there legal age to drink. The chicks who work there are cool. Very few women who works there looks beautiful, the majority are average looking girls but there looks can turn you on. If you're looking for pretty or sexy girls by all means go to Gold Rush or Follies. And also never solicit a woman in the strip club just because she's shaking her azz for $5-$10 doesn't mean that she doesn't have a degree of respect for herself. Depending on where you're at shit can get real ugly especially if they have aggressive bouncers.

[QUOTE=TheParrot;3004388]What type of mileage are you guys getting during a lap dance at strokers?

Is it hands on with lots of contact, stick shifting etc. Like follies and pinups? Or is it hand off, minimal contact?

Let me know, once my date with uncle LEO is over I want to play again. Its been a while.[/QUOTE]

Just because she's a ho to a certain degree doesn't mean she do not have feelings and you're literally setting yourself for a world of problems inside a strip club sometime in the near future. And if I was you I'll try to change my method of thinking or addressing issues on how I treat women if I was you. And the same shit I'm telling you now can be applied to the SW scene also.

[QUOTE=TheParrot;3005161]

And then after the first dance, I'll push them off if they aren't grinding the way I like.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BigMoney21;3006009]Just because she's a ho to a certain degree doesn't mean she do not have feelings and you're literally setting yourself for a world of problems inside a strip club sometime in the near future. And if I was you I'll try to change my method of thinking or addressing issues on how I treat women if I was you. And the same shit I'm telling you now can be applied to the SW scene also.[/QUOTE]I hear and somewhat agree with what you're saying. When I say "push her off" I basically mean end the dances, not physically push her. So I don't spend anymore cash on a whack dancer.

I push strippers off all the time at pinups, especially if they have a bad attitude.

For example: I'll ask for 5 dances which is $25 at pinups. So I place $25 on the table, one 20 dollar bill and a five dollar bill. If the first dance is whack, I will push her off and pick up the 20 dollar bill and leave the 5 dollar bill on the table for her.

Sometimes they ask "why?" I just tell them "I wasn't enjoying it, you are no fun. ".

We can't keep letting these strippers get over on us. That's the reason they don't try hard, because guys accept whatever crap they give them.

I work VERY HARD for my money, no point in wasting it when there are better strippers 2 feet away waiting to make money and provide GOOD SERVICE.

So, first of all thanks to ozymandias for the info about the VIP at follies, now, I made my way there on Saturday night and after a few minutes of been inside I spotted the girl I wanted (tall slim brown skin girl probably about 5'9) gave me some weird name sounded kind of asian nickname who knows I don't remember clearly I was kind of tipsy, anyway, I got my two dances with her and I asked her About going to VIP, I acted like I didn't know the house fee, blah blah, long story short, we agreed to go to VIP for 52 for the house and I offered her 140 $ with full service, then when we finally went in there we sat down talked for about three good minutes then I had to asked her to get down to business and that's when my nightmare started, basically she declined to do what we had dealed to do, she had excuses like; its two other girls in here and they going see me, can I just take your number and meet you outside after I'm done working blah blah blah, Man! I was pissed and with a hard willie! Then she had the courage to offer me dances for the money I gave her I was like b*tch if that was the case I wouldn't have had to waste all this damn money just to get what I can get out there on the floor! So I asked her to just Go, so she basically played me, What did I do wrong guys?? Help! It was my first attempt to get full service in VIP and in a club period!

[QUOTE=Chaparrolo;3006341]So, first of all thanks to ozymandias for the info about the VIP at follies, now, I made my way there on Saturday night and after a few minutes of been inside I spotted the girl I wanted (tall slim brown skin girl probably about 5'9) gave me some weird name sounded kind of asian nickname who knows I don't remember clearly I was kind of tipsy, anyway, I got my two dances with her and I asked her About going to VIP, I acted like I didn't know the house fee, blah blah, long story short, we agreed to go to VIP for 52 for the house and I offered her 140 $ with full service, then when we finally went in there we sat down talked for about three good minutes then I had to asked her to get down to business and that's when my nightmare started, basically she declined to do what we had dealed to do, she had excuses like; its two other girls in here and they going see me, can I just take your number and meet you outside after I'm done working blah blah blah, Man! I was pissed and with a hard willie! Then she had the courage to offer me dances for the money I gave her I was like b*tch if that was the case I wouldn't have had to waste all this damn money just to get what I can get out there on the floor! So I asked her to just Go, so she basically played me, What did I do wrong guys?? Help! It was my first attempt to get full service in VIP and in a club period![/QUOTE]This is my opinion based on my experiences only. I was also there Saturday and Friday. There is now a large amount of ROB's at follies now. In order to score at follies successfully without worry about being suckered you need to get there early as Oz stated. If I get there after 2 pm I just enjoy my time and don't push it. Also, the dances never lie. If she ain't basically fucking you on the floor she ain't going to do it in the VIP. Do not think with he little head, getting dances from super bad bitches that gave good dances but not too freaky burned me both times. The chick I had was one of the better looking and gave me minimal stick play. I now see inset myself up. Find one who stick shifts like she wants you to nut on the floor, also it seems as though being direct about extras upfront doesn't work anymore. I have started letting the dances offer the play time and that works. All the ones I've banged recently openly asked if I want to film I. I have gotten got twice in the last four months and both times were early evening around 7 pm. I honestly don't know where to get extras on night shift in Atlanta.

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[QUOTE=NewDude;3006364]This is my opinion based on my experiences only. I was also there Saturday and Friday. There is now a large amount of ROB's at follies now. In order to score at follies successfully without worry about being suckered you need to get there early as Oz stated. If I get there after 2 pm I just enjoy my time and don't push it. Also, the dances never lie. If she ain't basically fucking you on the floor she ain't going to do it in the VIP. Do not think with he little head, getting dances from super bad bitches that gave good dances but not too freaky burned me both times. The chick I had was one of the better looking and gave me minimal stick play. I now see inset myself up. Find one who stick shifts like she wants you to nut on the floor, also it seems as though being direct about extras upfront doesn't work anymore. I have started letting the dances offer the play time and that works. All the ones I've banged recently openly asked if I want to film I. I have gotten got twice in the last four months and both times were early evening around 7 pm. I honestly don't know where to get extras on night shift in Atlanta.[/QUOTE]

[URL]http://www.atlnightspots.com/crazy-horse-saloon-and-pink-pony-south-lost-their-strip-club-licenses/[/URL]

[QUOTE=Chaparrolo;3006341]So, first of all thanks to ozymandias for the info about the VIP at follies, now, I made my way there on Saturday night and after a few minutes of been inside I spotted the girl I wanted (tall slim brown skin girl probably about 5'9) gave me some weird name sounded kind of asian nickname who knows I don't remember clearly I was kind of tipsy, anyway, I got my two dances with her and I asked her About going to VIP, I acted like I didn't know the house fee, blah blah, long story short, we agreed to go to VIP for 52 for the house and I offered her 140 $ with full service, then when we finally went in there we sat down talked for about three good minutes then I had to asked her to get down to business and that's when my nightmare started, basically she declined to do what we had dealed to do, she had excuses like; its two other girls in here and they going see me, can I just take your number and meet you outside after I'm done working blah blah blah, Man! I was pissed and with a hard willie! Then she had the courage to offer me dances for the money I gave her I was like b*tch if that was the case I wouldn't have had to waste all this damn money just to get what I can get out there on the floor! So I asked her to just Go, so she basically played me, What did I do wrong guys?? Help! It was my first attempt to get full service in VIP and in a club period![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Chaparrolo;3006341]So, first of all thanks to ozymandias for the info about the VIP at follies, now, I made my way there on Saturday night and after a few minutes of been inside I spotted the girl I wanted (tall slim brown skin girl probably about 5'9) gave me some weird name sounded kind of asian nickname who knows I don't remember clearly I was kind of tipsy, anyway, I got my two dances with her and I asked her About going to VIP, I acted like I didn't know the house fee, blah blah, long story short, we agreed to go to VIP for 52 for the house and I offered her 140 $ with full service, then when we finally went in there we sat down talked for about three good minutes then I had to asked her to get down to business and that's when my nightmare started, basically she declined to do what we had dealed to do, she had excuses like; its two other girls in here and they going see me, can I just take your number and meet you outside after I'm done working blah blah blah, Man! I was pissed and with a hard willie! Then she had the courage to offer me dances for the money I gave her I was like b*tch if that was the case I wouldn't have had to waste all this damn money just to get what I can get out there on the floor! So I asked her to just Go, so she basically played me, What did I do wrong guys?? Help! It was my first attempt to get full service in VIP and in a club period![/QUOTE]You got scammed in follies of all places?

Follies is WELL KNOWN on the board for extras and high mileage dances. How the hell did you manage to get scammed there??

You guys are waaay better than me, I would not go down without a fight. Over 150 bucks is a lot of money to throw down the drain. You should have went to the manager or something. Or just told her to give the money back.

I like to consider myself a non aggressive person, but There is NO WAY I would leave without getting at least 100 bucks back.

Think about how bad that is. The average man is make 7. 25 an hour in the state of GA.

That means it takes those guys around 20 he's, almost an ENTIRE DAY to make 150. Just for you to give it away for nothing??

No way bro, you are better than me. No way that is going to fly. I feel sorry for the Average guy breaking his back for 20 he's just to hand his money over to some lazy bird who KNEW EXACTLY WHAT SHE WAS DOING.

[QUOTE=BigMoney21;3006009]Just because she's a ho to a certain degree doesn't mean she do not have feelings and you're literally setting yourself for a world of problems inside a strip club sometime in the near future. And if I was you I'll try to change my method of thinking or addressing issues on how I treat women if I was you. And the same shit I'm telling you now can be applied to the SW scene also.[/QUOTE]LOL a lesson on how to treat women on a sex forum. I've seen it all now. I gives these dirty skank penis licking ho3's no love. Chicks have way too much leverage inside of a strip club. I couldn't imagine dropping 200+ on a stripper to leave rock hard. They are selling a service. I didn't make them get that job. Do you feel sorry for the cook at the restaurant when he facks up your steak or do you send that ish back? I just don't get it. You are BUYING SEX. That act alone is exploitative of these women.

Who the hell cares what stripper gets thrown out of somebody's lap because she's being lazy providing a service she is being paid for which she volunteered to provide. AAHHHHHHH! If somebody wants respect they don't go shoving cocks down their throat for money. Sorry I just had to get that off my chest.

One recent Sunday I ventured out to Follies to see why the place is always packed. It was early, and the parking lot was almost full. $5 to the valet. The woman that took the door fee asked for a tip. She didn't get one. It was so dark, I couldn't see a thing. After a few moments I could see women standing everywhere. Near naked women, all in fuck me shoes, and lots of them. I stumbled to an empty table and sat down. Bought a drink from a waitress who asked for a tip. 'I don't work for free' she says. I see a pattern here. If she worked for me I'd fire her. Got a few dances from a pretty brunette. No shifting. She offered VIP for $180. I moved her along. Got a couple dances from a pretty and petite Costa Rican spinner, who bounced happily in my lap while stroking junior through my tight jeans. I now had visions of her naked ass bouncing on my hard dick. When she offered VIP for $200, I declined. Quickly she dropped her price to $160. I asked her if she'd take good care of me and she said 'of course'. As it turned out, I should have asked for more specifics.

We slipped through the beaded curtains into the 'VIP room'. A few love seats packed in a small room. One couple sprawled across one. Not my idea of a good time, but I got to go with it. Spinner took my cash and disappeared for a couple minutes. She came back with a handful of baby wipes and wiped down the entire love seat, and both my hands. She then proceeds to stroke junior while talking dirty. How about some mouth action I asked. 'You have a condom?' No. 'No boca without condom' she says. That's great I'm thinking. I just paid $160 for a fucking handjob. Determined to make the most of it, I tried to slide a finger in. Repeatedly. She squirmed away. Everytime. I tried to kiss her. No dice. At this point, I really wish I had opted for a $40 quick visit off BP. I rarely come from a handjob. Good for getting me hard, that's about it. I cut my losses and left. In my younger days, I would have had a blast at Follies. But now I prefer an hour in a nice hotel room with a pretty young lady who wants nothing more than to fulfill my every desire. And with some research, such women can be found all over this great city of ours.

[QUOTE=BigMoney21;3006009]Just because she's a ho to a certain degree doesn't mean she do not have feelings and you're literally setting yourself for a world of problems inside a strip club sometime in the near future. And if I was you I'll try to change my method of thinking or addressing issues on how I treat women if I was you. And the same shit I'm telling you now can be applied to the SW scene also.[/QUOTE]BM, after reading that post I've seen it all. Your post is arguably the most fascinating thing on this message board that I've seen lately. +1 on what Sarge said. These women, like it or not, actually do 'not' have feelings. They are on the hustle and their main objective is to fck you over and get the money. If we want a good girl who's got feelings, then we should go to church instead of a strip club. I do not treat these women with respect and I go great lengths to make them aware of that. It's been working our very well for me so far. Perhaps you're too deep in the game, BM, and have lost touch with reality?

[QUOTE=Ted1340;3006722]One recent Sunday I ventured out to Follies to see why the place is always packed. It was early, and the parking lot was almost full. $5 to the valet. The woman that took the door fee asked for a tip. She didn't get one. It was so dark, I couldn't see a thing. After a few moments I could see women standing everywhere. Near naked women, all in fuck me shoes, and lots of them. I stumbled to an empty table and sat down. Bought a drink from a waitress who asked for a tip. 'I don't work for free' she says. I see a pattern here. If she worked for me I'd fire her. Got a few dances from a pretty brunette. No shifting. She offered VIP for $180. I moved her along. Got a couple dances from a pretty and petite Costa Rican spinner, who bounced happily in my lap while stroking junior through my tight jeans. I now had visions of her naked ass bouncing on my hard dick. When she offered VIP for $200, I declined. Quickly she dropped her price to $160. I asked her if she'd take good care of me and she said 'of course'. As it turned out, I should have asked for more specifics.

We slipped through the beaded curtains into the 'VIP room'. A few love seats packed in a small room. One couple sprawled across one. Not my idea of a good time, but I got to go with it. Spinner took my cash and disappeared for a couple minutes. She came back with a handful of baby wipes and wiped down the entire love seat, and both my hands. She then proceeds to stroke junior while talking dirty. How about some mouth action I asked. 'You have a condom?' No. 'No boca without condom' she says. That's great I'm thinking. I just paid $160 for a fucking handjob. Determined to make the most of it, I tried to slide a finger in. Repeatedly. She squirmed away. Everytime. I tried to kiss her. No dice. At this point, I really wish I had opted for a $40 quick visit off BP. I rarely come from a handjob. Good for getting me hard, that's about it. I cut my losses and left. In my younger days, I would have had a blast at Follies. But now I prefer an hour in a nice hotel room with a pretty young lady who wants nothing more than to fulfill my every desire. And with some research, such women can be found all over this great city of ours.[/QUOTE]You disrespected her. Strippers have feelings too. It's not her fault that she screwed you over from $160 hard-earned money. Show her some respect next time and you might get lucky. Tip the bartender and valet too. LOL.

[QUOTE=TheParrot;3006521]You got scammed in follies of all places?

Follies is WELL KNOWN on the board for extras and high mileage dances. How the hell did you manage to get scammed there??

You guys are waaay better than me, I would not go down without a fight. Over 150 bucks is a lot of money to throw down the drain. You should have went to the manager or something. Or just told her to give the money back.

I like to consider myself a non aggressive person, but There is NO WAY I would leave without getting at least 100 bucks back.

Think about how bad that is. The average man is make 7. 25 an hour in the state of GA.

That means it takes those guys around 20 he's, almost an ENTIRE DAY to make 150. Just for you to give it away for nothing??

No way bro, you are better than me. No way that is going to fly. I feel sorry for the Average guy breaking his back for 20 he's just to hand his money over to some lazy bird who KNEW EXACTLY WHAT SHE WAS DOING.[/QUOTE]The trick for a minimum wage guy to score stripper pussy is to either start a band (white) or to be a rapper (black)! .

My view is that the occasional losses are just opportunity costs; you can mitigate risk, but you can never eliminate it. Escalation of loss by getting mad about it is hardly mitigation of risk, and usually winds up just costing more (in opportunity at the very least).

I will say I'm very reliant on my ability to read people (I taught for many years, which hones that ability razor-sharp), and I make sure I have time to do that before sealing a deal, and while some narcissists and sociopaths can evade that ability (I have met one authentic sociopath at Follies. Morgan / Secret. Who, interestingly, is in prison now; she did rip manage to me off), I'd say I hit the mark 95% of the time.

I could write a whole book on "stripper relations", but a few key points I go by in dealing with them are:

1. Stay cool: If you're in the club, you're on their turf, and they have the advantage; "customer service" is a factor in many industries, but less so in adult entertainment.

2. Select, don't accept: I NEVER invite a girl who approaches me to sit at my table, even if she's blazingly hot; it gives her the advantage ("initiative", in the language of gaming). If I see a girl who interests me, I will invite her to my table; this will always be a girl I've seen on stage at least once, and / or who I've seen dance for others. That hot girl who approached me? If I like her, I'll check her out when she does her thing elsewhere, and then invite her if it looks promising.

3. Test: I never run to VIP; I always have the dancer do a sequence of four consecutive dances (that's important, because if the heat hasn't built by the fourth dance, it's not happening). I push further with each dance, until I'm wetting a finger in her vagina by Dance Four; that's a VIP girl. And I'm reading her too, getting her horny (this makes a better dance in my experience), and generally getting her wet and ready if I've decided she's worth a VIP room.

4. Never agree to anything! No matter how close you get to a stripper. You might be busting raw loads daily into her uterus, mouth, and ass. Don't EVER get financially entangled with her. Do not lend her money. Do not cosign. Do not bail out. Nothing. If you want to hand her $10,000 to go shopping at Christian Louboutin (shoes which open stripper legs like keys), by all means, enjoy, but never LEND her $10,000. See the difference?

I mean, I love a stripper; they usually have much hotter bodies than escorts, they're already shaved and ready to go, and often they have a ton of hot, slutty friends who are ready for a three way, but they are categorically MESSED UP. They WILL drag you down.

That said, I agree with the earlier remarks about respect. I think, generally, life is just easier if you treat people with respect. I realize some take issue with it, but for me, it's a basic life-management decision. It's like I never rip anyone off, even when I can; it's just easier to play it straight. I used to have a girl I would visit with a few minutes notice (like I just happen to be driving by her exit with a few minutes to spare); I would tell her to be naked and ready when I got there, and I would literally walk in, slide in, fuck and come raw in her, and then leave. A cum dump, literally (and free of charge, too), but I still treated her with respect when we were just chatting or hanging out, because why not?

Thoughts!

O.

[QUOTE=Ozymandias;3007297]The trick for a minimum wage guy to score stripper pussy is to either start a band (white) or to be a rapper (black)! .

My view is that the occasional losses are just opportunity costs; you can mitigate risk, but you can never eliminate it. Escalation of loss by getting mad about it is hardly mitigation of risk, and usually winds up just costing more (in opportunity at the very least).

I will say I'm very reliant on my ability to read people (I taught for many years, which hones that ability razor-sharp), and I make sure I have time to do that before sealing a deal, and while some narcissists and sociopaths can evade that ability (I have met one authentic sociopath at Follies. Morgan / Secret. Who, interestingly, is in prison now; she did rip manage to me off), I'd say I hit the mark 95% of the time.

I could write a whole book on "stripper relations", but a few key points I go by in dealing with them are:

1. Stay cool: If you're in the club, you're on their turf, and they have the advantage; "customer service" is a factor in many industries, but less so in adult entertainment.

2. Select, don't accept: I NEVER invite a girl who approaches me to sit at my table, even if she's blazingly hot; it gives her the advantage ("initiative", in the language of gaming). If I see a girl who interests me, I will invite her to my table; this will always be a girl I've seen on stage at least once, and / or who I've seen dance for others. That hot girl who approached me? If I like her, I'll check her out when she does her thing elsewhere, and then invite her if it looks promising.

3. Test: I never run to VIP; I always have the dancer do a sequence of four consecutive dances (that's important, because if the heat hasn't built by the fourth dance, it's not happening). I push further with each dance, until I'm wetting a finger in her vagina by Dance Four; that's a VIP girl. And I'm reading her too, getting her horny (this makes a better dance in my experience), and generally getting her wet and ready if I've decided she's worth a VIP room.

4. Never agree to anything! No matter how close you get to a stripper. You might be busting raw loads daily into her uterus, mouth, and ass. Don't EVER get financially entangled with her. Do not lend her money. Do not cosign. Do not bail out. Nothing. If you want to hand her $10,000 to go shopping at Christian Louboutin (shoes which open stripper legs like keys), by all means, enjoy, but never LEND her $10,000. See the difference?

I mean, I love a stripper; they usually have much hotter bodies than escorts, they're already shaved and ready to go, and often they have a ton of hot, slutty friends who are ready for a three way, but they are categorically MESSED UP. They WILL drag you down.

That said, I agree with the earlier remarks about respect. I think, generally, life is just easier if you treat people with respect. I realize some take issue with it, but for me, it's a basic life-management decision. It's like I never rip anyone off, even when I can; it's just easier to play it straight. I used to have a girl I would visit with a few minutes notice (like I just happen to be driving by her exit with a few minutes to spare); I would tell her to be naked and ready when I got there, and I would literally walk in, slide in, fuck and come raw in her, and then leave. A cum dump, literally (and free of charge, too), but I still treated her with respect when we were just chatting or hanging out, because why not?

Thoughts!

O.[/QUOTE]I've never gone through all of that. All I've ever done was get a dance or two and then say I'm looking for something in particular and ask if they know who I should talk to. Either they're going to ask how much, direct you towards or someone or say they don't know. I've had more of the first and second than the third. I said it a few posts back, but when that's what I wanted all I'd do is go to Blaze around noon on a Saturday before it gets crowded. Every time I tried it I found one willing, quite often with the first one I asked. Quite a few times in the VIP room and if the chick bartender was down there she'd cut the lights all the way off and give you a heads up when someone was coming. A few times outside of the club as well. Also a few times at what used to be platinum 21. I actually got one in there that wasn't even a dancer, just a chick that was there watching.