Rants, Raves and Opinions AKA "The Octagon"

I agree with a line by Charlie Sheen. " I don't pay them for sex. I pay them to leave".

I'm not in a relationship either but the hobby is a way for those who are, to have extra fun without the emotional attachment or worrying if they're going to find the pet rabbit in a pot cooking on the stove.

[QUOTE=Hooter12;2791768]Was contacted by a pretty much life long friend I have last night. She is female. We have known each other since we were kids and I've seen her through her marriage, divorce, BFs, kids and her the same with me. Well as it turns out she found her husbands username and password for all things, this site. She game me the name and I looked and yes I see that person on here with reviews. Now she is unaware that I too am a member here but I also am not in a relationship with anyone right now. She apparently saw his reviews and who he has seen and is trying to see. She really didn't tell me how she connected the dots and I didn't want to press. She actually came to my place and is devastated. I guess she confronted him and he continually denied it. It definitely appears they are heading to divorce.

I don't want to hear anything about how he should have been more careful. I've known this lady my whole life and it hurt me to see just how devastated she is. As I stated I am not seeing anyone right now and haven't for quite some time. Question. Without making a moral or ethical judgment, was wondering how some of you feel about you being in the hobby when you have wives or girlfriends. Just wondered if it bothered any of you because no matter how we look at it or justify it, it is cheating. Its funny how we can do that and not bat an eye over it but if our wife or girlfriend cheats on us, we are absolutely crushed. Just wondered what your thoughts were.[/QUOTE]

Something is not adding up. If your female friend knows about the site, won't she see your post and connect the dots again that you are also a member here (although you are not seeing anyone?

In any case, we all have our weaknesses. So it's better to be self aware and do things that you can justify to your conscience!

[QUOTE=Hooter12;2791768]Was contacted by a pretty much life long friend I have last night. She is female. We have known each other since we were kids and I've seen her through her marriage, divorce, BFs, kids and her the same with me. Well as it turns out she found her husbands username and password for all things, this site. She game me the name and I looked and yes I see that person on here with reviews. Now she is unaware that I too am a member here but I also am not in a relationship with anyone right now. She apparently saw his reviews and who he has seen and is trying to see. She really didn't tell me how she connected the dots and I didn't want to press. She actually came to my place and is devastated. I guess she confronted him and he continually denied it. It definitely appears they are heading to divorce.

I don't want to hear anything about how he should have been more careful. I've known this lady my whole life and it hurt me to see just how devastated she is. As I stated I am not seeing anyone right now and haven't for quite some time. Question. Without making a moral or ethical judgment, was wondering how some of you feel about you being in the hobby when you have wives or girlfriends. Just wondered if it bothered any of you because no matter how we look at it or justify it, it is cheating. Its funny how we can do that and not bat an eye over it but if our wife or girlfriend cheats on us, we are absolutely crushed. Just wondered what your thoughts were.[/QUOTE]

WHo are you all talking about? Big mystery.

[QUOTE=DarkNet;2785320]The girl is heavily involved in the H scene in Cincinnati. This IA A MUST READ. I will try to tr post in a more readable form.[/QUOTE]

Why on earth would someone put their user I'd and password in writing for this site? Not sure how else the distressed wife would know unless she's a computer whiz.

My attitude is my wife unilaterally changed the deal about that aspect of marriage. When you get down to it, a guy really has only three options in such a case, those options being tolerate it, cheat, or leave. I've made my choice at least for now, though option 3 may be put into play later. Figure I may as well occasionally indulge in a cute 20 something that I'd normally have no realistic chance of getting in everyday life.

[QUOTE=ChickaAmante;2792626]Something is not adding up. If your female friend knows about the site, won't she see your post and connect the dots again that you are also a member here (although you are not seeing anyone?

In any case, we all have our weaknesses. So it's better to be self aware and do things that you can justify to your conscience![/QUOTE]There is a part of me that feels bad that I want to be in the hobby, but I can't afford a boat or a harley, for a mid life crises. There are many reasons that people step out just for a human need. Some are taken for granted and fail to take the 30 min to fulfill that part of the orginal agrement of the relationship. Relationships are very complex and everchanging. My wife is sick and is a turn off for me so I look for pleasure in the hobby. It is just a hobby, at the end of the day we all hit a part of the reset button and resume the love part of the relationship and then look for the nest reset button to lean on. I've been on both sides of this hobby, for me I both gain and loose, all is temporary, unless you choose to make it forever.

My wife lost interest in having a sexual relationship after menopause. We are still good friends and I can't imagine her not being in my life, but I wasn't ready to become celibate either. It took many years, during which time I can now see I was becoming increasingly angry and unhappy, before I started hobbying. Since then, I am happier and our relationship is better. I suspect she knows, but its a "don't ask don't tell" situation. If she wanted / was able to resume being sexual, I'd drop the hobby, but until then, its the best solution I have found. As always, YMMV.

The good dr.

[QUOTE=DrDave39;2793159]My wife lost interest in having a sexual relationship after menopause. We are still good friends and I can't imagine her not being in my life, but I wasn't ready to become celibate either. It took many years, during which time I can now see I was becoming increasingly angry and unhappy, before I started hobbying. Since then, I am happier and our relationship is better. I suspect she knows, but its a "don't ask don't tell" situation. If she wanted / was able to resume being sexual, I'd drop the hobby, but until then, its the best solution I have found. As always, YMMV.

The good dr.[/QUOTE]This is my situation also. However, I am honest enough to admit that it would be hard to go back having sampled the joys of the PYT's here.

Bam.

I am single now but when I was married, my wife could give me quantity of sex, and also quality in sex, but she could not give me the variety (meaning sleeping with other women).

This might be an excuse, but men and women have been around for thousands of years back before the concept of marriage, and we were programmed to spread our "seed" to as many women as possible. That has been in-bedded into our DNA. We now get married and are told to be monogamous. I found out too late that it was not possible for me faithful. I ended the marriage so she could find a man that could be that for her.

The smart married couples choose the lifestyle of swinging. Kudos to them.

Take care and enjoy the hobby!

$Bill.

[QUOTE=Hooter12;2791768]Was contacted by a pretty much life long friend I have last night. She is female. We have known each other since we were kids and I've seen her through her marriage, divorce, BFs, kids and her the same with me. Well as it turns out she found her husbands username and password for all things, this site. She game me the name and I looked and yes I see that person on here with reviews. Now she is unaware that I too am a member here but I also am not in a relationship with anyone right now. She apparently saw his reviews and who he has seen and is trying to see. She really didn't tell me how she connected the dots and I didn't want to press. She actually came to my place and is devastated. I guess she confronted him and he continually denied it. It definitely appears they are heading to divorce.

I don't want to hear anything about how he should have been more careful. I've known this lady my whole life and it hurt me to see just how devastated she is. As I stated I am not seeing anyone right now and haven't for quite some time. Question. Without making a moral or ethical judgment, was wondering how some of you feel about you being in the hobby when you have wives or girlfriends. Just wondered if it bothered any of you because no matter how we look at it or justify it, it is cheating. Its funny how we can do that and not bat an eye over it but if our wife or girlfriend cheats on us, we are absolutely crushed. Just wondered what your thoughts were.[/QUOTE]The world is full of assholes. I'm one of them.

[QUOTE=ChickaAmante;2792626]Something is not adding up. If your female friend knows about the site, won't she see your post and connect the dots again that you are also a member here (although you are not seeing anyone?

In any case, we all have our weaknesses. So it's better to be self aware and do things that you can justify to your conscience![/QUOTE]Exactly what I was thinking. She's about to be even MORE devastated.

[QUOTE=Fffooey;2793433]The world is full of assholes. I'm one of them.[/QUOTE]I've been a scoundrel since four months after marriage. And I've been married for a while. I love women. All sorts of women. The fact that sites like this and others (where they don't seem to think they are prostitutes) has offered such a bounty has only increased my options and desire.

I'll stop when I'm dead.

[QUOTE=ChickaAmante;2792626]Something is not adding up. If your female friend knows about the site, won't she see your post and connect the dots again that you are also a member here (although you are not seeing anyone?

In any case, we all have our weaknesses. So it's better to be self aware and do things that you can justify to your conscience![/QUOTE]Hopefully she won't. But if she does, I'm not married to her. I'd be embarrassed but I don't think she is going to be on here again. She has seen enough. Talked to her today.

Hahaha it greatly overjoys me to read about so many men cheating on their wives. I commend all of you who are pursuing the hedonistic pleasures. For those who just started recently in this hobby whilst being married, I congratulate you for making the right decision. For those who are lurking and thinking about doing it. Just do it. There is nothing morally wrong at all with this since we men are all genetically programmed to seek out as many partners as possible. Do not fight your nature. Fuck the sanctimony of marriage, pursue your pleasures selfishly and have neither shame or guilt in it. Keep doing what makes you happy and don't look back.

[QUOTE=Fffooey;2793433]The world is full of assholes. I'm one of them.[/QUOTE]

Greetings from Memphis. It's been a while since I posted one of our Memphis Ladies. Have been under the weather lately. Got back from a trip to Africa which took out more of me physically than I thought. This is Mimi (not the redhead) that I saw last Thursday. She is an older lady but a lot of times older is better. She managed to drain me and that's not easy on the old pecker these days.

[QUOTE=Glockman;2796281]Greetings from Memphis. It's been a while since I posted one of our Memphis Ladies. Have been under the weather lately. Got back from a trip to Africa which took out more of me physically than I thought. This is Mimi (not the redhead) that I saw last Thursday. She is an older lady but a lot of times older is better. She managed to drain me and that's not easy on the old pecker these days.[/QUOTE]I've been off the board for a while and catching back up. Glad to see you posting pics still.