Asian Providers

[QUOTE=Stgermaine;6917413]Next to impossible. I only have kgirl refs since that's what I like and they aren't too pleased since my refs sre "competitors who try to offer my girls more money".

Cherry on top is that they offered some other girls but gatekeeping Lucy who I really want to see for that CIMWS.

Ugh, my weekend plans. Gone.[/QUOTE]I don't like it either but they are harder to screen. I went through HX which was easy but the condition was they needed to be recent refs (within a year). They took the thai agency as a ref so I don't see they would care about competitors, I've used nothing but competitors obviously. Were you using HX or just giving plain phone numbers as refs? The reason HX works is anyone can verify you by just logging into HX, they don't need to contact their competitors to do it. The drawback is not everyone knows how to use HX and it takes work and patience to set up. I know that doesn't help right now but for everyone in your situation that is how it is.

Their OC profile says they are "not newbie friendly". I actually had to screen SDAG twice because after taking a long break they lost my contact. It was a blessing because I spent months at the Thai agency loving it. It is a different experience, not for everyone but great for me.

You can also try FEC, xoxo, SAG. This is just my own opinion but FEC has better looking girls on average, most of them rotating with their OC branch. I use SDAG because they have more girls and specific girls I like. They are also the cheapest if I want to no-bb a lot of different girls at 240 for 40 min sessions. I consider that amazing and liberating when I get that mood. I've also heard good things about xoxo and SAG and HX proves they are legit, especially since SAG has been in business over a decade in OC and are branching out here.

[QUOTE=FreeWally;6916923]Yeah it's not a thing with kgirls, especially those just visiting the US. Something like "not the best looking" or no longer in demand might change that, but again if a girl has worked years without offering it why give up privacy suddenly to one guy. Maybe if you had a relationship with a girl, that's completely different and I've done that once.

I've done videos with jgirls and it's frankly way better anyways since they did a good job. I could bring a good camera and they all helped with good lighting. Lighting is the most important. So it can get FC2 level quality since I have their cooperation. I don't see good results happening with a kgirl not prepared to do all that.

It wasn't long a go a guy got banned for uploading to pornhub. They made him take it down. Everyone has a good time and gets along if we don't stir up trouble like that. Lighting got even dimmer after that, one time I told Kiko I couldn't even see where I was going and she relented lol. With my videos I'll die before sharing them. Why do that to a girl that treated me so well. But since there are other guys like that, the only girls who would are the girls who would back home. There is a big difference in porn culture, laws, and stigma between Korea and Japan. JAV stars sometimes say in their interview "sorry mom and dad"

Not that anyone would care, but it is also illegal to upload without consent in California. It's not cool and hurts our experience in the future for girls to think that.[/QUOTE]Yeah I figured. The girl that did alow video was Japanese, LOL. With so many options it's tough to just stick with 1. So it'll be even tougher to get a video going. I want to compile videos for myself, for those times where money needs to be saved, LOL.

[QUOTE=FreeWally;6917758]I don't like it either but they are harder to screen. I went through HX which was easy but the condition was they needed to be recent refs (within a year). They took the thai agency as a ref so I don't see they would care about competitors, I've used nothing but competitors obviously. Were you using HX or just giving plain phone numbers as refs? The reason HX works is anyone can verify you by just logging into HX, they don't need to contact their competitors to do it. The drawback is not everyone knows how to use HX and it takes work and patience to set up. I know that doesn't help right now but for everyone in your situation that is how it is.

Their OC profile says they are "not newbie friendly". I actually had to screen SDAG twice because after taking a long break they lost my contact. It was a blessing because I spent months at the Thai agency loving it. It is a different experience, not for everyone but great for me.

You can also try FEC, xoxo, SAG. This is just my own opinion but FEC has better looking girls on average, most of them rotating with their OC branch. I use SDAG because they have more girls and specific girls I like. They are also the cheapest if I want to no-bb a lot of different girls at 240 for 40 min sessions. I consider that amazing and liberating when I get that mood. I've also heard good things about xoxo and SAG and HX proves they are legit, especially since SAG has been in business over a decade in OC and are branching out here.[/QUOTE]So, I have questions about screening. Back when I used to hobby more (10+yrs ago) SDAG was my go-to agency in SD. I haven't paid them a visit since then and have been thinking to get back in. I'll have to contact them, but I highly doubt they'd still have me on file, so I'll have to be screened. Back in the day, I was screened through work. But these days I work from home, so theres no office, work phone number, or people to talk to that can vet me without raising questions. So its my understanding that HX is the way to go? I've created a HX account and need to start building a network. I'm used to agencies, so that's the route I'd likely take. That said, if SDAG screening is the toughest, what are the other SD agencies like? I've read on this forum, that for newbies, a copy of your DL photo and a CC with your name (everything else blocked out) is an option. Is that the case? Are there other screening options? Feel free to send me a DM if preferred. Thanks!

[QUOTE=Knuckle65;6918329]So, I have questions about screening. Back when I used to hobby more (10+yrs ago) SDAG was my go-to agency in SD. I haven't paid them a visit since then and have been thinking to get back in. I'll have to contact them, but I highly doubt they'd still have me on file, so I'll have to be screened. Back in the day, I was screened through work.![/QUOTE]Best to go other agencies first in your case. By their design screening is not meant to be easy, for better or worse. They are using other agencies to weed out trouble. So you aren't going to shortcut it in my opinion. Use the other agencies, they are great too. Diversification keeps everyone safer.

I can't help anyone shortcut it because a) I'm not qualified to screen or vouch for anyone b) it makes everyone less safe, c) I probably can't help you anyways. I don't know all the options, I just went through the HX route. I always recommend it because it is safer both ways and is better proof than anything else, since it proves consistent safe past behavior. It's also what I put on the line to show I won't cause trouble - I would not risk my "master key" reputation since they can negative rate me (and should) if I cause trouble.

If you give up personal info instead, keep in mind it is a mutually beneficial relationship. Your interests are aligned. Every business partner I've ever had has had the same info and more. The risk is actually indirect and not from the agency itself. It's other people besides the agency getting that info. That's not even in the top 5 of my concerns in general. Just by using an agency, you've eliminated several of the biggest risks - a dangerous girl or pimp. Of course, HX does that too 99% of the time. An agency will not rob or harass you but a sexy drug addict might.

Never had a single safety problem with an agency in 10 years.

The worst thing that ever happened to me was I was going to film a jgirl for a second video but her appointment got cancelled the next day because she left town. I still think about the 30 minutes of nonstop porn I missed out on, but I can live with that. I just remember that this doesn't even make the top 10 list of "worth things that can happen" with independents. So I've never looked back.

[QUOTE=FreeWally;6918744]Best to go other agencies first in your case. By their design screening is not meant to be easy, for better or worse. They are using other agencies to weed out trouble. So you aren't going to shortcut it in my opinion. Use the other agencies, they are great too. Diversification keeps everyone safer.

I can't help anyone shortcut it because a) I'm not qualified to screen or vouch for anyone b) it makes everyone less safe, c) I probably can't help you anyways. I don't know all the options, I just went through the HX route. I always recommend it because it is safer both ways and is better proof than anything else, since it proves consistent safe past behavior. It's also what I put on the line to show I won't cause trouble - I would not risk my "master key" reputation since they can negative rate me (and should) if I cause trouble.

If you give up personal info instead, keep in mind it is a mutually beneficial relationship. Your interests are aligned. Every business partner I've ever had has had the same info and more. The risk is actually indirect and not from the agency itself. It's other people besides the agency getting that info. That's not even in the top 5 of my concerns in general. Just by using an agency, you've eliminated several of the biggest risks - a dangerous girl or pimp. Of course, HX does that too 99% of the time. An agency will not rob or harass you but a sexy drug addict might.

Never had a single safety problem with an agency in 10 years.

The worst thing that ever happened to me was I was going to film a jgirl for a second video but her appointment got cancelled the next day because she left town. I still think about the 30 minutes of nonstop porn I missed out on, but I can live with that. I just remember that this doesn't even make the top 10 list of "worth things that can happen" with independents. So I've never looked back.[/QUOTE]It is in the best interest of all parties involved to have "screening" in one way or another, agreed. Having said that. I cannot fathom nor justify giving my personal info, be it my business, employer, license, etc. Sure. Some individuals have more to lose than others, but agencies will always have the higher leverage over you in that sense. Food for thought.

[QUOTE=FreeWally;6916900]I have the same experience with BrianLara, most SDAG girls did msog included. However I have not done it often lately, but I used to do it all the time. I did not even know what msog was until a few years ago where other agencies started adding it. So I wouldn't be surprised if a girl at SDAG worked elsewhere and asked for it out of habit even though it's included there.

When I did an hour, most girls assumed 2nd shot and even asked when time was getting there. Such service. But again, not every girl is service minded.[/QUOTE]I hope that's the case with all Asian providers. My experience is with the Latinas, I had CubanGinger who allows it but another Latina (Sallie) who wouldn't even let get another round in. I will say though, when I saw CubanGinger most recently, she was pretty hesitant to giving me another shot in, so that was kind of off putting. I probably should try the Asian lineups next.

Over the past few weeks I've seen a few girls from SKParadise. The booker is easy to work with. I told them I'd put up a review. Hoping this agency succeeds and sticks around!

Helen and Olivia in UTC. And just yesterday I was in OC and saw Sara up there.

Helen was smoky and sultry and had a bit of a silly attitude while remaining sexy too. Nice big boobs. Olivia was demure and pretty, a little more meek but willing and eager. The UTC location is right in the area where all the agencies operate from. Up in OC. Sara was an absolute smokeshow and if you like young and beautiful women with big, soft, natural boobs. You can't go wrong with Sara. The location up there is near John Wayne Airport and you just drive into the apartment community and park. I wish we had it so easy here.

All 3 of them were great but wow, hoping Sara comes down to SD so I can see her easily again, she was in her own league.

[QUOTE=StlDanish;6918979]Up in OC. Sara was an absolute smokeshow and if you like young and beautiful women with big, soft, natural boobs. You can't go wrong with Sara. The location up there is near John Wayne Airport and you just drive into the apartment community and park. I wish we had it so easy here.

All 3 of them were great but wow, hoping Sara comes down to SD so I can see her easily again, she was in her own league.[/QUOTE]Sara is simply amazing. To the uninitiated, she's totally worth the drive. Sure you could wait for her to maybe tour SD. But why wait? I haven't seen Kimora, but I'd repeat with Sara over Hera no question.

[QUOTE=SsStuntCock;6915222]It looks like a handful of stables will be booking her. I keep reading that Minji CG is a great value in LA. Well Sara is a steal, so they can kicks rocks. I dare someone to come up with a better 320 bb option in all of SoCal.

I'm including her original photo set from two years ago, so you fellas can compare with her current ad.[/QUOTE]

I saw Gianna a few days ago.

She is the lady in the photos. She is a Latina, not Korean or Japanese. Photoshop to remove some tattoos and roundify her boobs for some reason. But, that is almost exactly how she looks. They've done something to plump up her boobs in the photos and it honestly looks worse in the ad than in real life. She has perfect, natural boobs with the right sag that natural big beautiful breasts should have. I am a boob guy, this lady has a perfect pair of boobs. If you like boobs, then she is one to see. Think Salma Hayek, but with a prettier face (not a squared-off jaw like Salma). I imagine this is what Salma's breasts look like if you could see them up close and right in your face and stick your dick between them and smash them together. I mean wow. Her skin is very soft and smooth (as you'd expect).

The session is very GFE, a lot of kissing, LFK, DFK you name it. She is sensual. She kisses you like your girlfriend would kiss you. Her menu includes BBBJ (no CIM), She is strictly covered full service (NO BBFS offered). Which I like, but I understand if others don't. I had a short session with her due to my schedule, but we had a great time and I will go see her again. I get the feeling that each time with her will build on the last and get better and better.

So, here is some more physical description, she is short, maybe 5' 1". Long, straight brown / black hair as in the photos. She is thin, but isn't skin and bones. She has a great ass, she has those perfect breasts. Her face is beautiful. Perfect teeth. She enjoys being with you (at least she did with me) and will do what you want her to do (within her set of rules, no CIM, no BBFS, etc.).

She is in her early to mid-30's but could pass for her 20's if she wanted to. If she told me she was 28, I would probably believe her. Maybe she is older than mid 30's, but I honestly cannot tell. She could pass for 28 easily. She speaks perfect English, no problems with communication at all.

The session was good, but I like that passive approach. I like to take control. She is somewhat inexperienced, her BBBJ was very light. So she is on the more inexperienced side of things, but I still enjoyed the session with her and will try to see her some more. We ran a few positions, but I was short on time. Doggy was pretty fun, those boobs bouncing in cowgirl was great. I finished in mish.

So for me, she fits a fantasy that I have of nailing Salma Hayek. She has a prettier face than Salma, she has boobs that I think are like Salma's boobs from Desperado or From Dusk til Dawn era. Salma's boobs today look bigger, but I am talking about early Salma Hayek (her peak IMHO). I am going to see her as much as I can.

I think we should have a Latina thread here and move all the Latina provider discussions (from SDAG and others) into it.

Good idea / bad idea?

Excellent idea. But will it work, guys post independent massage providers in the AMP section 🤷.

[QUOTE=TrustyHairlip;6919940]I think we should have a Latina thread here and move all the Latina provider discussions (from SDAG and others) into it.

Good idea / bad idea?[/QUOTE]

San Diego Allie is OC Mina, my atf. I've seen her in OC about once per week for the last 3 months or so. I'm totally addicted. I don't know how long she's in San Diego, but she's worth the drive for me while she is. More of a Japanese face than the J-girls I've seen. I'm not really sure what quantifies Japanese looks, but for whatever reason I identify her facial features as Japanese. Not the most scientific approach, LOL.

Anyways, Mina (Allie) is fucking incredible. That spinner body with those long legs parting like the sea and her Japanese o-face. The prettiest shaved clam on the beach. Great oral skills and a killer kegal grip. Strong rec, indeed.

I haven't seen, but she got solid reviews in OC. See more at TER: 390723.

[QUOTE=GentleSun;6920089]San Diego Allie is OC Mina, my atf. I've seen her in OC about once per week for the last 3 months or so. I'm totally addicted. I don't know how long she's in San Diego, but she's worth the drive for me while she is. More of a Japanese face than the J-girls I've seen. I'm not really sure what quantifies Japanese looks, but for whatever reason I identify her facial features as Japanese. Not the most scientific approach, LOL.

Anyways, Mina (Allie) is fucking incredible. That spinner body with those long legs parting like the sea and her Japanese o-face. The prettiest shaved clam on the beach. Great oral skills and a killer kegal grip. Strong rec, indeed.[/QUOTE]I've only heard good things about her in OC. I noticed there are two different types of pics for her, depending on which org you're looking at. Care to comment on which set is more accurate?

Amazing experience yesterday with Hera at Xoxo I think it was probably my best session ever thus far in my entire time participating in this hobby. Hers was gorgeous sexy and spunky I booked for 30 min but I should have booked an hour. Truly an amazing time she's still available I highly recommend. BBBJ and DATY were highlights of the session and all the reviews for her are true. ATF I will be returning without a doubt.