Massage Parlor Reports

Victoria Anderson?

[QUOTE=Pathfinder04;5123405]Has she retired or has anyone else come across her? She was one of my favorites.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=InSearch69;5123432]Victoria Anderson?[/QUOTE]Sorry yes I forgot her "last name" LOL. Whitest name ever but a very hot and sweet Latina.

The board search requires 3 characters and unfortunately KK won't come up. Love her look if real pic. Was wondering if anyone would respond or pm what extras are available. Her add clearly states no FS but wanted to confirm.

Thanks.

[QUOTE=TheDrowned;5115662]My wayward journey lead me through Nutley st. And who doesn't love busting a nut on nutley? This place is located on maple Ave attached to a bank boasting about its freedom. This place is brand new so I didn't catch a name. But I was lead inside and paid the hour fee (. 6) and undressed to proceed to the massage.

Coco was the name of my provider and she had long black hair, tight skinny body, with engineered bolt-ons way too big for her chest; like 2 watermelons strapped to a twig. I'm much more of an au natural guy, and while I do have a thing for tig ol bitties, I'd also much prefer a smaller cup of organic berries to the "genetically modified" melons any day. But that's just me and it's different strokes for different folks. Coco is still an attractive Asian and I'd put her at 40 or a real sexy 50.

As far as the massage went, it was good. I got my hours worth and then she went in for the soft touch around the genitalia to let me know it was time to flip. No negotiations which is always a plus, I asked her to remove the burdensome fabric covering her pale white frame and she obliged. She's got nice pink nipples which is rare a Chinese but I nursed away. (Not sure if she could feel any of it, the silicon barrier was like the Great Wall itself) but as the urge got stronger I attempted to navigate my fingers inside but she told me no bare penetration of any kind allowed. She did however notion that FS was still up for grabs if I had a cover on hand. Alas, I didn't refill my wallet since the previous excursion so I was S. O. L.

But the laws of the jungle still apply. Improvise. Adapt. Overcome. While she jackhammered away I saw those perfectly sized melons fill a gap in the center. I told her to lay down on the table and since my junk was oiled up like a newly serviced vehicle I placed it between her breast lock and key style and titty fucked until I exploded all over her tits and neck. Those tits weren't real but I put it to good use anyway. I tipped her 100 for being a good sport and she seemed pleased with the donation.

I was given a bottle of water and a warm smile (I like to think it was a smile, can't see shit under the mask) and was lead out of the building. Great time, def a repeat.

Water Forgets.[/QUOTE]Yesterday I had a no show with an XOC escort at Tysons and was left annoyed but still horny. Remembered this post, logged on with my phone, gave the place a call and asked if Coco was available on short notice. Arrived 15 minutes later and found the right doorway. Asked for a half hour massage (50). Coco is as described, 40 to 50 Chinese with thin body and bolt-ons. When she closed the door she grabbed my junk so I correctly guessed there wouldn't be much massage involved. Offered 40 if she'd get nude and we negotiated for 60 for nude DATY. She has a huge clit that gets really hard! She said if I brought a condom we could do full service. No condom but for another 40 I got a saran wrap BJ. She complimented me on how hard I got and how long I lasted. Kept the mask on except for the BJ. If in a pinch and in a hurry I might repeat.

[URL]https://nova.bedpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/northern-virginia/9734588.html[/URL]

Most providers want to keep their private and personal business separate. One provider told me that after having sex all day, the last thing she wanted to do was to go home to more sex. I have met a smaller number of providers that seek to date clients but that is a side hustle to get money. As someone once said on this board, you have a better chance of winning the lottery than finding a meaningful relationship at an AMP.

[QUOTE=NovaBuscander;5121994]Your situation reminded me of an article I recently read by a SWer. I took the time to go back and find it because it offers very interesting thoughts from the other side's viewpoint. Perspectives we do not usually hear from them. And some views about us.

[URL]https://peepshowmedia.com/2020/12/04/sex-workers-are-not-your-girlfriend/[/URL]

I'm also interested in what other guys think about her thoughts.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SexyD;5124077]Most providers want to keep their private and personal business separate. One provider told me that after having sex all day, the last thing she wanted to do was to go home to more sex. I have met a smaller number of providers that seek to date clients but that is a side hustle to get money. As someone once said on this board, you have a better chance of winning the lottery than finding a meaningful relationship at an AMP.[/QUOTE]It makes common sense that a SWer would be burntout from sex all day long. Especially an AMP lady who has no control over how many dudes she sees once she shows up for work. But that would really suck for their man at home. Speaking of the guy at home, here's an interesting paragraph from the article.

"It is when this type of client starts to express that they wish that they could have a partner like me that red flags start to go up. My own partner doesn't have a partner like me, or rather, I don't relate to my partner in the way that I do with clients. My partner has a wife who isn't catering to him, whose desires sometimes conflict with his, and who hasn't made it her job to make sure that all of his fantasies are fulfilled."

I appreciate the writer's honesty. But ouch! Imagine having a wife who is a sex worker and is committed to pleasing her customers at work all day, but doesn't "cater to you" and does not "make it her job" to ensure all of your fantasies are fulfilled at home. Wow, that's brutal. In fact, it's a recipe for the guy to go find a SWer to meet his needs. It comes full circle.

Now add on the fact they are always so tired from having sex all day with eager mongers and their coochie is sore from getting railed by multiple dudes and having to service a couple of really big cocks per day. Constant honeymoonitis!

To the OP who wanted to date a massage girl, it's best to keep your emotional distance from these women and just stick to having a p4 p business relationship. Just enjoy the moment and don't buy their acting job. After all, with the good ones it's really a fantasy they are selling, not just the sex act.

Find women to date who work outside that industry, in so called "vanilla jobs". Unless you pull one out of the biz early enough they are forever going to be jaded. And who wants that factor in their marriage or long term relationship.

[QUOTE=Hurtu;5123772]The board search requires 3 characters and unfortunately KK won't come up. Love her look if real pic. Was wondering if anyone would respond or pm what extras are available. Her add clearly states no FS but wanted to confirm.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]Great massage with NOVA finish. NO FS, NO BJ. Peek at tatas, YMMV. Picture is real. Beautiful lady. But thick. Her place is always clean and she has a sweet personality.

[QUOTE=MiRoad;5123850]Yesterday I had a no show with an XOC escort at Tysons and was left annoyed but still horny. Remembered this post, logged on with my phone, gave the place a call and asked if Coco was available on short notice. Arrived 15 minutes later and found the right doorway. Asked for a half hour massage (50). Coco is as described, 40 to 50 Chinese with thin body and bolt-ons. When she closed the door she grabbed my junk so I correctly guessed there wouldn't be much massage involved. Offered 40 if she'd get nude and we negotiated for 60 for nude DATY. She has a huge clit that gets really hard! She said if I brought a condom we could do full service. No condom but for another 40 I got a saran wrap BJ. She complimented me on how hard I got and how long I lasted. Kept the mask on except for the BJ. If in a pinch and in a hurry I might repeat.

[URL]https://nova.bedpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/northern-virginia/9734588.html[/URL][/QUOTE]Has anyone seen the other lady working with Coco? I heard her talking, but didn't see her.

[QUOTE=Kijimuna;5124548]Has anyone seen the other lady working with Coco? I heard her talking, but didn't see her.[/QUOTE]The other lady is MMS. She goes by Mimi. Chinese, 40+, heavier set, big guns, huge personality. Will do most anything reasonable to please the client, for then right service donation. I would repeat.

[QUOTE=SuzhiLang;5121603]I should add that skillful HJ provider can sense and control your climax. If she senses that you are about to climax, she will slow down so that you don't unload too early. Once you calm down, she will again give the teasing and edging that pleasant you. This on-and-off process will bring you to the intensive climax that you will never experience from DIY or FS.

On another note, as I read through the posts in the forum, Tara appears to be the one with consistent positive review. I wonder if her HJ would be this good.[/QUOTE]In my experience Jane of Bus-Spa showed the most technical expertise in how to use accupressure and other techniques to edge a (or at lest _this_) guy. I last saw her in June. Unfortunately although she has the expertise, she I'd nit into doing the deed. I think I saw a later post indicating that she may have backed off of doing extras. A pity.

She's hot, probably in her 30's from Spain, petite with bolt-ons, but forbids the touching of her nipples. Kept her panties on. Decent rub down with lotion, but just decent.

On the flip, no tease at all, just straight to the HJ with dirty talk.

YMMV, but I wouldn't repeat if it were free. Much better deals out there for $$, many in the same building, and while wasting $$ is annoying, it's the waste of a good excuse to be out of the house for 2 hours (30 minutes each way, and an hour on-site) that is worse than the money.

It was her 3rd day, so maybe she'll get more into the swing of things as time passes, but I wouldn't bank on it.

[QUOTE=Lucretius;5124841]In my experience Jane of Bus-Spa showed the most technical expertise in how to use accupressure and other techniques to edge a (or at lest _this_) guy. I last saw her in June. Unfortunately although she has the expertise, she I'd nit into doing the deed. I think I saw a later post indicating that she may have backed off of doing extras. A pity.[/QUOTE]Wait, I thought the services provided by Jane (for $) come with the relief by default. Isn't it?

[QUOTE=NovaBuscander;5124314]To the OP who wanted to date a massage girl, it's best to keep your emotional distance from these women and just stick to having a p4 p business relationship. Just enjoy the moment and don't buy their acting job. After all, with the good ones it's really a fantasy they are selling, not just the sex act.

Find women to date who work outside that industry, in so called "vanilla jobs". Unless you pull one out of the biz early enough they are forever going to be jaded. And who wants that factor in their marriage or long term relationship.[/QUOTE]Having been involved in a couple of relationships with providers, I wholeheartedly agree. Those relationships were among the biggest mistakes I've ever made.

[QUOTE=Squatty2;5125138]She's hot, probably in her 30's from Spain, petite with bolt-ons, but forbids the touching of her nipples. Kept her panties on. Decent rub down with lotion, but just decent.

On the flip, no tease at all, just straight to the HJ with dirty talk.

YMMV, but I wouldn't repeat if it were free. Much better deals out there for $$, many in the same building, and while wasting $$ is annoying, it's the waste of a good excuse to be out of the house for 2 hours (30 minutes each way, and an hour on-site) that is worse than the money.

It was her 3rd day, so maybe she'll get more into the swing of things as time passes, but I wouldn't bank on it[/QUOTE]Can confirm. Had a good time overall, but the no touching stuff was kind of a deal breaker. Even for Eden that's lame. Tried asking for extras, but no such luck.

Literally the worst decision I've ever made in my life. Trust is impossible in that type of relationship. Save your heart for someone who doesn't rent out their vagina. They say they want to quit and that may be true. But when money's tight, it's too easy to fall back on that business. Mine kept a separate phone list of old customers for when she really needed money. Her definition of "really needing money" quickly loosened. It's too hard to go to a regular job when you're used to making big money quickly by laying on your back. It's a quick and simple way to make money, and obviously there is not shortage of customers. Save your heart, money and sanity for someone else. Pay for the crazy ones. Date / marry the normal ones.

[QUOTE=NovaBuscander;5124314]It makes common sense that a SWer would be burntout from sex all day long. Especially an AMP lady who has no control over how many dudes she sees once she shows up for work. But that would really suck for their man at home. Speaking of the guy at home, here's an interesting paragraph from the article.

"It is when this type of client starts to express that they wish that they could have a partner like me that red flags start to go up. My own partner doesn't have a partner like me, or rather, I don't relate to my partner in the way that I do with clients. My partner has a wife who isn't catering to him, whose desires sometimes conflict with his, and who hasn't made it her job to make sure that all of his fantasies are fulfilled."

I appreciate the writer's honesty. But ouch! Imagine having a wife who is a sex worker and is committed to pleasing her customers at work all day, but doesn't "cater to you" and does not "make it her job" to ensure all of your fantasies are fulfilled at home. Wow, that's brutal. In fact, it's a recipe for the guy to go find a SWer to meet his needs. It comes full circle.

Now add on the fact they are always so tired from having sex all day with eager mongers and their coochie is sore from getting railed by multiple dudes and having to service a couple of really big cocks per day. Constant honeymoonitis!

To the OP who wanted to date a massage girl, it's best to keep your emotional distance from these women and just stick to having a p4 p business relationship. Just enjoy the moment and don't buy their acting job. After all, with the good ones it's really a fantasy they are selling, not just the sex act.

Find women to date who work outside that industry, in so called "vanilla jobs". Unless you pull one out of the biz early enough they are forever going to be jaded. And who wants that factor in their marriage or long term relationship.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JohnnySalami;5125654]Literally the worst decision I've ever made in my life. Trust is impossible in that type of relationship. Save your heart for someone who doesn't rent out their vagina. They say they want to quit and that may be true. But when money's tight, it's too easy to fall back on that business. Mine kept a separate phone list of old customers for when she really needed money. Her definition of "really needing money" quickly loosened. It's too hard to go to a regular job when you're used to making big money quickly by laying on your back. It's a quick and simple way to make money, and obviously there is not shortage of customers. Save your heart, money and sanity for someone else. Pay for the crazy ones. Date / marry the normal ones.[/QUOTE]I did the same thing. Lies, lies and more lies. The money has it's hooks in them and they can't ever get away from it. It's really an addiction for them, just like this lifestyle is for us.

Took a quick trip to Oasis off of Jefferson Davis.

The door opens and mamasan takes me to the room. In walks Sugah / Sugar or however so pronounced it. She was pretty and a decent body. I paid for 1/2 hour to see if the talent was okay. I hate to admit it but I did have a few encounters with another mamasan there and got FS, BBBJ, CIM with her. She wasn't anything to brag about but she worked hard. So I decided to see if I could recreate the experience.

Sugar was very playful. She seemed disappointed that I am only there for a half but when I explain that I am feeling bad because all I had time for was a half and I really wish I could give her an hour to play, she realized why I was there. From the room to the TS back to the room she dragged me by manhood. She understood that I was there to play. TS was fun with all the right spots cleaned. Massage didn't happen. She went straight to CBJ, then FS with multiple positions.

$. 2 for the tip.

Enjoy.

When they are asking you questions, they are probing you for information. If you overtip or seem like your desperate, they will make it appear that they are interested in dating you. Once they get you emotionally hooked, the money requests will start. Men = $$. They don't need or want a boyfriend. They want only your money, credit, or help getting a green card. Stick to the providers with personal standards and work ethic.

[QUOTE=Addicus;5125689]I did the same thing. Lies, lies and more lies. The money has it's hooks in them and they can't ever get away from it. It's really an addiction for them, just like this lifestyle is for us.[/QUOTE]

Brothers let me first apologize. I violated one of the most important basic rules- I took too much money with me.

Scheduled a one hour massage with cha-cha at 120. I took a little extra money because I was thinking of treating myself to a doubles. She's a little older than the pictures but still a tiny little package. During the massage which was OK I negotiated to upgrade to nuru at an additional Benjamin. So now I'm at 2:20. She gave me such a phenomenal massage with a great prostate I completely lost my mind. With her tiny little moneymaker in my face and her tiny strong hands around Junior she started whispering do you want more. Course I wanted more but negotiating from this position was not my wisest decision. I ended up with a Benji and a grant for a really fantastic full-service explosion. So now I'm at 3. 7 for what I had at an ACS in Sterling that featured full rimming for 160 a week earlier.

So brothers I come to apologize and ask your forgiveness as I have inadvertently contributed to GPS. And try to impart my mistake so that you will not make the same.

Happy Holidays.

Jack.

[QUOTE=Loader401;5125951]Took a quick trip to Oasis off of Jefferson Davis.

The door opens and mamasan takes me to the room. In walks Sugah / Sugar or however so pronounced it. She was pretty and a decent body. I paid for 1/2 hour to see if the talent was okay. I hate to admit it but I did have a few encounters with another mamasan there and got FS, BBBJ, CIM with her. She wasn't anything to brag about but she worked hard. So I decided to see if I could recreate the experience.

Sugar was very playful. She seemed disappointed that I am only there for a half but when I explain that I am feeling bad because all I had time for was a half and I really wish I could give her an hour to play, she realized why I was there. From the room to the TS back to the room she dragged me by manhood. She understood that I was there to play. TS was fun with all the right spots cleaned. Massage didn't happen. She went straight to CBJ, then FS with multiple positions.

$. 2 for the tip.

Enjoy.[/QUOTE]She sounds wonderful. Where abouts off Jeff Davis is Oasis? A private message will be fine if you like.

[QUOTE=Addicus;5125689]I did the same thing. Lies, lies and more lies. The money has it's hooks in them and they can't ever get away from it. It's really an addiction for them, just like this lifestyle is for us.[/QUOTE]They will just use your friendship to exploit it for personal gain. I am not saying that they are all the same; however, you don't want to be a friend to the wrong one.

If you see one sign of trouble, it is just best to walk away.

They have plenty of money and sex. What they don't have is credit. Providers are all 1099 contract employees, that report a fraction of their cash income. This causes a problem when they want to sign a lease or a car loan. They need a co-signer. That is where the 'boyfriend' comes in handy. Don't do it. You credit history will be co-mingled forever and they will treat you like shit before the ink is dry.

[QUOTE=Idk85;5126218]They will just use your friendship to exploit it for personal gain. I am not saying that they are all the same; however, you don't want to be a friend to the wrong one.

If you see one sign of trouble, it is just best to walk away.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Sswede;5126167]She sounds wonderful. Where abouts off Jeff Davis is Oasis? A private message will be fine if you like.[/QUOTE]I did a quick Google search for 'Oasis Spa Jefferson Davis Hwy' and one came up in Dumfries. A bit far from me, but this may help you.

100% correct. I didn't mean to come off like we mongers are perfect either, and my relationship with that girl wasn't all bad. But the bad significantly outweighed the good. None of these girls understand how to live within their means. Getting out of the business isn't an option because they generally don't possess any other skills that will net them a job that comes anywhere close to earning then the same money as they earned in this industry. Not only did I lose my mind, my heart, my time and my money, but I also lost the fucking. The fucking was the best part. Can't be here customer anymore. Should've just kept booking her instead of saying dating her. What a moron I was. Total loss. Don't be captain Save-a-hoe. Enjoy them for 30 minutes or an hour. Then bye-bye until next time, and turn your burner off!

[QUOTE=Addicus;5125689]I did the same thing. Lies, lies and more lies. The money has it's hooks in them and they can't ever get away from it. It's really an addiction for them, just like this lifestyle is for us.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SexyD;5126372]They have plenty of money and sex. What they don't have is credit. Providers are all 1099 contract employees, that report a fraction of their cash income. This causes a problem when they want to sign a lease or a car loan. They need a co-signer. That is where the 'boyfriend' comes in handy. Don't do it. You credit history will be co-mingled forever and they will treat you like shit before the ink is dry.[/QUOTE]My former friend always liked to borrow my money. Repayments were a ***** but she did repay me. However, I got sick of it because she was a pathological liar. So, I stopped helping her. Guess what she called me? Cheapo and "mocked" me because I paid for sex. LOL Also, she told the other ladies that I am a bad person and I was taking her money. I should of listened to the other ladies because they warned me about her drama.

Glad that I am leaving her in 2020!

[QUOTE=Hurtu;5123772]The board search requires 3 characters and unfortunately KK won't come up. Love her look if real pic. Was wondering if anyone would respond or pm what extras are available. Her add clearly states no FS but wanted to confirm.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]As a first time client, for the 120 hr fee you'll get a great massage and clothed HE, if you're respectful and make her feel comfortable. You'd be wise not to set your expectations beyond that. For repeat visits, everything depends on the YMMV factor between the individual massage provider and client. There's simply no way to predict that in advance.

One thing about KK is that her massage is good enough that she'd have plenty of regulars on that basis alone. Also, she's a small BBW, body-wise, so you should be aware before scheduling.

[QUOTE=Ihilani;5124583]The other lady is MMS. She goes by Mimi. Chinese, 40+, heavier set, big guns, huge personality. Will do most anything reasonable to please the client, for then right service donation. I would repeat.[/QUOTE]I guess I walked in and talked to Mimi from your description. I got scared and said thank you and left. She did say 3 working there but compared to the Coco description I would not go forward with Mimi.

Glad you enjoyed. If we all liked the same, we would all be in trouble.

I asked for phone number but she said just do a walk in.

Went and had a dream with nice cute young Michelle at Comfort on route 50 in Fairfax. Clean nice place and sweet gal that did the trick for me. Mentally.

Be nice to the gals.

HG2.

[QUOTE=GilBang;5126693]I did a quick Google search for 'Oasis Spa Jefferson Davis Hwy' and one came up in Dumfries. A bit far from me, but this may help you.[/QUOTE]Thanks for your post. Wish Dumfries was closer but oh well.

[QUOTE=PilotAviator;5011924]Although we are past the vernal eq, and recognizing the staff is very aware of and follows COVID recommendations, my last visit to the Garden in Burke was like a renewal of life in the Spring.

Thank you Lucy for a great NOVA massage experience.

Always be nice to the ladies.

PA.[/QUOTE]I stopped in here recently on a slow day for them, and took them up on a 4-hand session (paid $130/ hr). While I generally don't do 4-hand, because it seems to inhibit some providers, this was a great massage by both providers and a nice NOVA experience. I would do it again on a whim.

I've also seen Tina solo here; she's a cute MILF (very pretty eyes over the mask, IMHO) and very sweet. Talented massage, and worked in some nice teasing / previews while I was on my stomach. I would definitely see her again.

Live and learn. Consider it an early Christmas present to yourself.

At least you had a good time.

[QUOTE=JackAubry;5126062]Brothers let me first apologize. I violated one of the most important basic rules- I took too much money with me.

Scheduled a one hour massage with cha-cha at 120. I took a little extra money because I was thinking of treating myself to a doubles. She's a little older than the pictures but still a tiny little package. During the massage which was OK I negotiated to upgrade to nuru at an additional Benjamin. So now I'm at 2:20. She gave me such a phenomenal massage with a great prostate I completely lost my mind. With her tiny little moneymaker in my face and her tiny strong hands around Junior she started whispering do you want more. Course I wanted more but negotiating from this position was not my wisest decision. I ended up with a Benji and a grant for a really fantastic full-service explosion. So now I'm at 3. 7 for what I had at an ACS in Sterling that featured full rimming for 160 a week earlier.[/QUOTE]

Dreamt of Kimberly from ST the other day. She's a cute curvy Latina / Jamaican with nice natural tits and a great butt. She's very young, I'd say about 20, and has a sweet demeanor. Only went for 30 minutes, as was first dream, and not sure of how much extra is on the table. Pretty receptive to roaming. Will definitely repeat to see if there's a more extended menu, but had a great time regardless, and definitely recommend.

[QUOTE=VistaPrivada;5127791]Dreamt of Kimberly from ST the other day. She's a cute curvy Latina / Jamaican with nice natural tits and a great butt. She's very young, I'd say about 20, and has a sweet demeanor. Only went for 30 minutes, as was first dream, and not sure of how much extra is on the table. Pretty receptive to roaming. Will definitely repeat to see if there's a more extended menu, but had a great time regardless, and definitely recommend.[/QUOTE]What did you leave with? HJ?

I dropped by this place on Lee Hwy near Kamp Washington corner. I saw one decent review on another board and figured I would TOFTT. I came in and drew Susan. Paid my $60 and stripped for the massage. Susan was very playful and jiggled my old ass and then laughed. The massage was a good deep tissue which I asked for. After hot towels she did a light fingernail rub and then asked me to flip. She started right in with NOVA and complied when I asked for a little stimulation down south as well. I asked for a view and she pulled down her top to expose some nice brown nipples. She didn't mind my roaming around her B's and I popped soon after. Susan then continued massaging my head and doing some stretching until my hour was up. I tipped $45 for her great attitude and for the view. I couldn't guess her age because of the mask but she was definitely cute and not an old hag. I would return.

And a COVID-Conquered New Year.

Thank you to the brother mongers for sharing intel, wisdom, and opinions.

Thank you to the MMS / managers for maintaining excellent facilities.

Made visits the past two weeks to Bamboo, the Garden, Eastern and a few independents. All visits provided customary NoVA Christmas cheer. Thank you to the ladies. I hope Santa is nice to all of them. As we should always be nice to the ladies.

PA.

Why can't I find the Eden website anymore?

Someone please post or PM me.

I've seen Lucy a few times now.

Last visit we went to the table shower, lots of teasing. While she was getting the water hot, I rubbed my cock between her ass cheeks, she backed into it hard. At the end of the TS, I got a little BBBJ. Back in the room it was straight to BBBJ. Lots of gaging, very sloppy. She took me to the edge 2 or 3 times before I blew. She let me cum on her face / chest. While she was cleaning her face, I strapped up for more fun. I put her down for standing mish, she has a great body with very nice tits. They were still covered in cum. We started slow and progressed into deep long strokes. I didn't try to hold back, I unloaded in the bag, she then pulled it off and emptied it on her stomach.

After cleaning up, she helped dress me. She gave jr a "kiss" goodbye, witch made him very hard. There was no way she was going again. So I sat down and jacked off while Lucy straddled me naked grinding her pussy on my leg. After I came she got me some water and I was on my way.

[QUOTE=JackAubry;5126062]Brothers let me first apologize. I violated one of the most important basic rules- I took too much money with me.

Scheduled a one hour massage with cha-cha at 120. I took a little extra money because I was thinking of treating myself to a doubles. She's a little older than the pictures but still a tiny little package. During the massage which was OK I negotiated to upgrade to nuru at an additional Benjamin. So now I'm at 2:20. She gave me such a phenomenal massage with a great prostate I completely lost my mind. With her tiny little moneymaker in my face and her tiny strong hands around Junior she started whispering do you want more. Course I wanted more but negotiating from this position was not my wisest decision. I ended up with a Benji and a grant for a really fantastic full-service explosion. So now I'm at 3. 7 for what I had at an ACS in Sterling that featured full rimming for 160 a week earlier.

So brothers I come to apologize and ask your forgiveness as I have inadvertently contributed to GPS. And try to impart my mistake so that you will not make the same.

Happy Holidays.

Jack.[/QUOTE]Jack, thanks for posting about your experience. You learned a valuable lesson about bringing too much money with you and overtipping. Normally I only bring the session fee with me unless there is a chance for extras, and then I limit my additional cash to what I consider a reasonable tip. If she's unwilling to work with me, then I can rule out future visits with her.

One request: could you please post a link to the provider in question so that we can all know who to avoid? Thanks!

[QUOTE=JmSuttr;5127090]As a first time client, for the 120 hr fee you'll get a great massage and clothed HE, if you're respectful and make her feel comfortable. You'd be wise not to set your expectations beyond that. For repeat visits, everything depends on the YMMV factor between the individual massage provider and client. There's simply no way to predict that in advance.

One thing about KK is that her massage is good enough that she'd have plenty of regulars on that basis alone. Also, she's a small BBW, body-wise, so you should be aware before scheduling.[/QUOTE]Thank you! I ended up seeing Rada. Cute, thin, but also limited extras and the prices were outlandish. I am pausing on the hobby for two weeks and going to Tijuana and staying at Hong Kong as long as restrictions in San Diego do not get out of control.

Several places on Lee Highway near Merrifield.

Noticed a relatively new one. Luna Massage. Visited to get info. No time today. But wondered if legit or much better than legit. Am I naive to think legit or is there fun to be had? Sweet nice short busy Chinese gal being desk seemed nice. Is it worth it? Just don't have the time to spare to waste it.

- Here or PM OK.

Thanks,

HG2.

[QUOTE=TomMcAn;5131002]Jack, thanks for posting about your experience. You learned a valuable lesson about bringing too much money with you and overtipping. Normally I only bring the session fee with me unless there is a chance for extras, and then I limit my additional cash to what I consider a reasonable tip. If she's unwilling to work with me, then I can rule out future visits with her.

One request: could you please post a link to the provider in question so that we can all know who to avoid? Thanks![/QUOTE]I personally have no problem bringing extra cash into a session but only because over the years I've gotten pretty good when it comes to listening to the big head. Everyone has to figure out what works best for them but it all revolves around the "moment of truth" that happens in many negotiation situations.

If everything's been agreed beforehand, or if you're a regular and there's a pre-existing understanding, or if you make an offer and it's quickly accepted, then there's really not much negotiating going on. But the "moment of truth" happens when a provider believes she has the power and leverage, because of the client's horniness, that allows her to do a hard-sell upcharge. The only possible response a monger has is the power and leverage found in his wallet. What will decide that power struggle is whether he wants the extras more than she wants the money.

With AMPs and FBSM providers, if I get the hard upcharge treatment, my default is to say I'm fine with whatever is covered by the fee already paid. For an AMP, I've only paid the house fee that should cover at least a massage. If the masseuse continues and gives a decent massage that lasts the full hour, I'll leave a $20 tip. If she gives a crap massage, I'll leave no tip. If she wants to end the session early, I'll ask MMS for a refund and explain why. Over the decades I can count on one hand when this hasn't worked. When that last scenario happens, I post on the appropriate boards to warn others. On those occasions when the masseuse agrees to my offered price, it's a judgment call as to whether her attitude is positive enough to perform adequately.

For independent FBSM providers it's pretty much the same except for the MMS part. Since I've already probably paid 120, it's reasonable to expect a massage + HJ. The provider then has to decide how badly she wants the extra $. If she's popular enough, or has GPS, she won't agree because she figures she'll get it from another monger or she'll refuse because she thinks she's worth the extra $. Not a problem for me because that lets me know I'll never see her again and I also know the "buyer's remorse" I'd have from overpaying would far outweigh any possible temporary blue-ball situation. It also helps a lot when you have regular providers you know won't play such games. Having a Plan B definitely helps strengthen your resolve.

We all crave variety which is why we often take a chance with new and unreviewed providers. When those encounters don't go according to plan, we mongers need to remember and play to our strengths.