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Just a heads up that the infamous Jane / Hera / etc. Etc. Who has been well discussed on this board is back. She's now using the name Alice on the HX websites SweetGem and TiffanysModels. If you are sadistic and want to have a miserable time, book her quickly since she changes names and agencies faster than the Indy pit crews change tires. One thing she doesn't seem to change completely are her pictures.
[QUOTE=Veni1;5179568]Just a heads up that the infamous Jane / Hera / etc. Etc. Who has been well discussed on this board is back. She's now using the name Alice on the HX websites SweetGem and TiffanysModels. If you are sadistic and want to have a miserable time, book her quickly since she changes names and agencies faster than the Indy pit crews change tires. One thing she doesn't seem to change completely are her pictures.[/QUOTE]When she was brand new, it was kind of cool to creampie a relatively young girl despite her lack of skills. Has she gotten worse since?
[QUOTE=Veni1;5179568]Just a heads up that the infamous Jane / Hera / etc. Etc. Who has been well discussed on this board is back. She's now using the name Alice on the HX websites SweetGem and TiffanysModels. If you are sadistic and want to have a miserable time, book her quickly since she changes names and agencies faster than the Indy pit crews change tires. One thing she doesn't seem to change completely are her pictures.[/QUOTE]She's nothing to really rave about. Her services and attitude was subpar, not surprised she hops around so much.
[QUOTE=Frala;5179401]Honestly, I feel like we need to have a conversation about anatomy. Vaginal tightness is so variable, that it's difficult for this conversation to be objective. Everyone will have a different experience with the same girl. I know it's difficult for many of us not to take things personally, but foreplay / arousal levels and wetness play a big part here. Yes, some people have tighter vaginas than others, but vaginas expand on arousal. Also, an extremely wet vagina doesn't give you the same amount of sensation, which makes it seem less tight. It can even just depend on the day / the girl's mood. Some days a provider will feel more tight than another. I've definitely experienced this myself personally. That being said, there are definitely outliers, and of the ones that are currently active and I have seen more than once, I will agree that Pocket Girl seems to be the tightest. To be honest, if we're determining between the no upcharge providers, I feel like there is no one that stands out as significantly tighter. To me, the vibe and the overall performance is more important to the overall satisfaction anyway than just the physical tightness.[/QUOTE]I have a large cock, 10 inches long and very wide. The girls are always tight for me.
[QUOTE=SsStuntCock;5179018]Didn't Tiana rebrand as Lucky with Gray? Before anyone gets too excited, she's advertising 280+100 bb "no cip. ".
Me: (waiting for someone to write how they got "lucky" and cip her).[/QUOTE]At least some of the same fake pictures are used. It also says "Nuru" is included no charge. Other than the smoker's breath / possible attitude Tiana sounded interesting to me, maybe that will be enough to make it worthwhile.
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[QUOTE=Eponymously;5179859]At least some of the same fake pictures are used. It also says "Nuru" is included no charge. Other than the smoker's breath / possible attitude Tiana sounded interesting to me, maybe that will be enough to make it worthwhile.[/QUOTE]Going to give the booker a second chance. Haven't seen kgirl since I got stood up with joy. I tried to look up reviews of this girl in the other forums but wanted to know more about her face? Is it pretty bad? Have read mixed things. Any girls its comparable to? Thanks in advance.
[QUOTE=PriscillaM;5179858]I have a large cock, 10 inches long and very wide. The girls are always tight for me.[/QUOTE]I mean, I wasn't going to say it, but I am also on the larger side, so now that I think about it, that makes me feel like that's also probably why I was confused about the conversations about tightness. It's not quite as big as yours, but everything feels tight to me as well, and the only notable ones are the ones who almost can't put it in at all. I suppose someone more on the average to small side might be able to tell the difference more easily if some feel loose and others don't, so I can see why it would be important for them.
Before someone writes in about their 12+ inch cock (girth that is), for the purpose of the OP it'd be useful for you to share who may have "struggled the most" during BBFS. Aka who's the tightest under the conditions previously mentioned. 1) Non upcharge. 2) doesn't rely on Kegels to be tight.
A naturally tight pussy without upcharge just hits different.
[QUOTE=Vulcan1009;5178844]Just noticed that Tiana is no longer on M's web page, only lasted two days??
That was quick.[/QUOTE]You know she switched agency's because M don't up charge the extra $ for bb.
That is the truth.
[QUOTE=TempletonRat;5179692]When she was brand new, it was kind of cool to creampie a relatively young girl despite her lack of skills. Has she gotten worse since?[/QUOTE]It pretty tough to get worse as far as service goes. It's not really the lack of skills but her not wanting to do anything. Dead fish, tries to avoid BJ, no mutual shower, and asking to cum five seconds after you penetrate.
It's like she thinks she can get by just offering BBFS and cip. And service is worse than corg level. Worse than many a storefront level. I thought she was a ripoff at 220 in the bay, for your prices she's a borderline robbery.
[QUOTE=TempletonRat;5179692]When she was brand new, it was kind of cool to creampie a relatively young girl despite her lack of skills. Has she gotten worse since?[/QUOTE]Can you describe how she looks? Does she have a tattoo around her lower arm? She doesn't look young to me at all. During my session, I can't help but think she looks like a man. So I don't know if they bait and switched sky with me. I ended up doing a hand job myself which is pretty pathetic.
Never booked with them before but are any of those actual photos of the girls? (pocket girl, sarah, amy, fendi)?
[QUOTE=Ramen25;5180715]Never booked with them before but are any of those actual photos of the girls? (pocket girl, sarah, amy, fendi)?[/QUOTE]In my personal experience trying them twice they completely bait and switched me with girls that weren't even close to what was advertised. The fakes pictures were of Korean models and the girls I saw didn't come close the stats that the booker posted. As I understand it, the KTE bookers often haven't even met the girls and have no idea clue what they actually look like or what their body stats really are. So they say stuff like, 90 lbs 5'1 and then you get there it's a women who's 125 lbs and 5'7. According to various reviews on TER, some guys say the the girls they saw look at least "similar" the pictures, others say the pictures are real but extremely photo-shopped, and others say the pictures are outright lies through and through. My guess is, you book with a girl and they just throw you whoever is ready on call, maybe they happen to look like what you want and maybe not. Bottom line, after being burned twice I stay away from them.
[QUOTE=GoodBoy88;5180891]In my personal experience trying them twice they completely bait and switched me with girls that weren't even close to what was advertised. The fakes pictures were of Korean models and the girls I saw didn't come close the stats that the booker posted. As I understand it, the KTE bookers often haven't even met the girls and have no idea clue what they actually look like or what their body stats really are. So they say stuff like, 90 lbs 5'1 and then you get there it's a women who's 125 lbs and 5'7. According to various reviews on TER, some guys say the the girls they saw look at least "similar" the pictures, others say the pictures are real but extremely photo-shopped, and others say the pictures are outright lies through and through. My guess is, you book with a girl and they just throw you whoever is ready on call, maybe they happen to look like what you want and maybe not. Bottom line, after being burned twice I stay away from them.[/QUOTE]Seconding this statement. I try to avoid KTE because I have never seen a provider from them where the picture is even close to accurate, and they are extremely hit or miss, but for some reason, they manage to have an endless rotating supply of "new" girls, and my desire for variety gets the best of me. I've had way more misses than hits, but when they hit, they really hit.
[QUOTE=Ramen25;5180715]Never booked with them before but are any of those actual photos of the girls? (pocket girl, sarah, amy, fendi)?[/QUOTE]I can tell these pics are not representative, so I wouldn't try them. Rarely, they get gems who have somewhat genuine pics. The 2 x I went with them, I chose Silver and Danbi. Both delivered on looks and advertised height.
[QUOTE=Goglo69;5180337]You know she switched agency's because M don't up charge the extra $ for bb.
That is the truth.[/QUOTE]Which brings us the the million $ question. How much longer can M sustain her present rate structure?
M. Hana, Annie, Chanel.
Sunny. Joy, Niya.
Newtopasian.
Sexy Angels. Fanny, Hami, Sophia, Helen, Erica, Taylor.
SFK. Viki, Emily.
PKL. Ara, Hazel.
[QUOTE=Frala;5180968]Seconding this statement. I try to avoid KTE because I have never seen a provider from them where the picture is even close to accurate, and they are extremely hit or miss, but for some reason, they manage to have an endless rotating supply of "new" girls, and my desire for variety gets the best of me. I've had way more misses than hits, but when they hit, they really hit.[/QUOTE]Exactly my experience-Never a true Photo (s) but I do get the warning before hand. However Ktown booker is a very nice.
[QUOTE=PlutoKiller;5181092]Which brings us the the million $ question. How much longer can M sustain her present rate structure?[/QUOTE]You kidding? M has so much business that you can hardly get to her if your not a veteran regular (and even then she's constantly stacked up). She can sustain that rate indefinitely if she wants to because she's cornering the market right now by having the only stable of hot girls in LA who aren't up charging. Other bookers maybe getting that extra henny, but not half the demand. Truth is if M starts doing the 100 $ upcharge, there would be little reason to go with her stable as a pose to any other.
[QUOTE=BonerAppetitty;5178889]I don't believe so. I saw Peach. It's unlikely I couldn't get BB if a girl gone with upcharge. I knew of Peach3 before I saw CandyGirl Peach. I pegged Peach3 as easy BB.
There are some girls who have one profile as GFE and a different profile as BB. I don't think CandyGirl Peach is one of those.[/QUOTE]Peach3 / bookergray has different pics and description than Peach of candygirls although both offer BBFS for an upcharge. I have seen Peach from candygirls not Peach3. I have been able to book any girl on bookergray via candygirls. BA have you seen both girls? I just got confirmation from the booker that they are both the same girl.
[QUOTE=GoodBoy88;5181139]You kidding? M has so much business that you can hardly get to her if your not a veteran regular (and even then she's constantly stacked up). She can sustain that rate indefinitely if she wants to because she's cornering the market right now by having the only stable of hot girls in LA who aren't up charging. Other bookers maybe getting that extra henny, but not half the demand. Truth is if M starts doing the 100 $ up charge, there would be little reason to go with her stable as a pose to any other.[/QUOTE]I guess the point of the topic is: "Can "M" recruit new talent or retain existing talent when the girl know that they can do this for $100 more?" The free market economy favor bookers that charge extra for BB unless all mongers decide to boycott those bookers and those girls. I personally don't cough up $100 unless if I really like the girl and it has been only one girl (Emily from EUK Girl) that I have paid the extra $ because she well worth it: I saw her 12 times in two months.
[QUOTE=Jack926;5181114]Exactly my experience-Never a true Photo (s) but I do get the warning before hand. However Ktown booker is a very nice.[/QUOTE]Hmm interesting guys, appreciate the feedback. I guess every once in a while we got to play K-Girl Roulette to try and hit the jackpot LOL. But if we keep losing with a particular agency, just got to know when to fold / walk away like Kenny Rogers.
[QUOTE=Toungsten;5181094]M. Hana, Annie, Chanel.
Sunny. Joy, Niya.
Newtopasian.
Sexy Angels. Fanny, Hami, Sophia, Helen, Erica, Taylor.
SFK. Viki, Emily.
PKL. Ara, Hazel.[/QUOTE]I see another blank as far as Newtopasian is concerned. Also no current reviews on that other site. Do you know if they are on a hiatus?
[QUOTE=Veni1;5181622]I see another blank as far as Newtopasian is concerned. Also no current reviews on that other site. Do you know if they are on a hiatus?[/QUOTE]Yes, all the girls are not available now. Sia is in the BA.
I am extremely happy that we all are part of an extremely productive community here to communicate.
This thread has the most commented on reports in all of the LA and SoCal boards and I'm so proud to be the seed. I would contribute more but I have too much exposure to risk so much. And while I created this board solely for the purpose of not diluting the Bareback Beauties thread.
Safe bareback raw fun should be a duty.
I honest to goodness love being sexually attacked by women.
Maybe it is me. Maybe it is money. Maybe it is an illusion?
I love you fuckers!
[QUOTE=Pkim31;5181086]I can tell these pics are not representative, so I wouldn't try them. Rarely, they get gems who have somewhat genuine pics. The 2 x I went with them, I chose Silver and Danbi. Both delivered on looks and advertised height.[/QUOTE]Can I ask a genuine question for the board? Is there any booker that has a reputation for using 100% real pics? In my limited experience it seems like the girls provide the photos, and take them from booker to booker. Sometimes you have a pic that looks like a real selfie in a real environment, but 98% of the time the pictures are of a different girl, touched up beyond recognition, might be some modelling shots from 5 or more years ago, or intentionally obscure the face. No matter the circumstance they're only barely representative of who you're going to see. You can use the pics w / the included measurements to get a general idea of the provider but as far as face goes that's a roll of the dice to me. It seems weird to hold "fake" pics against certain bookers when often the "real" pics communicate about as much actual information.
[QUOTE=Jack926;5181526]I guess the point of the topic is: "Can "M" recruit new talent or retain existing talent when the girl know that they can do this for $100 more?" The free market economy favor bookers that charge extra for BB unless all mongers decide to boycott those bookers and those girls. I personally don't cough up $100 unless if I really like the girl and it has been only one girl (Emily from EUK Girl) that I have paid the extra $ because she well worth it: I saw her 12 times in two months.[/QUOTE]It definitely doesn't favor bookers who upcharge otherwise they would have the best talent which isn't the case at all. If you consider traffic alone, the upcharge agencies have to use multiple bookers, bait and switch tactics, fake pictures etc in order to keep their girls busy where M, J, Pepsi etc. Don't need to do this and they generally keep their girls happy.
[QUOTE=PlutoKiller;5181092]Which brings us the the million $ question. How much longer can M sustain her present rate structure?[/QUOTE]For as long as she wants!
She has so many newbies trying to get in and I know for fact "a lot" of veteran mongers!
Anyone have any updates on the new ladies that came through? I've only seen Jenny and I'm curious on the stable. Also sfk's emily? I've been monitoring the last couple days but haven't seen any posts. If I'm able to free up some time I'll visit and post my findings. Recommendations please!
[QUOTE=HapaBoy86;5181887]For as long as she wants!
She has so many newbies trying to get in and I know for fact "a lot" of veteran mongers![/QUOTE]Well, in recent months she lost a couple of her girls to better paying bookers. Money talks and an extra 100 is an irresistible argument for the girls. Providing good looking girls with a good service attitude for a much lower pay will be the challenge for M.
[QUOTE=PlutoKiller;5181984]Well, in recent months she lost a couple of her girls to better paying bookers. Money talks and an extra 100 is an irresistible argument for the girls. Providing good looking girls for a much lower pay will be the challenge for M.[/QUOTE]You don't know M and she really don't care what a monger thinks or tells her how to run it!
[QUOTE=PlutoKiller;5181984]Well, in recent months she lost a couple of her girls to better paying bookers. Money talks and an extra 100 is an irresistible argument for the girls. Providing good looking girls with a good service attitude for a much lower pay will be the challenge for M.[/QUOTE]Really depends. Why do the popular girls in NorCal not leave when they make significant less than Socal? Consistency is key. And orgs like M and now it seems like new org PKL too can keep certain girls busy. Particularly the newer ones to LA, not ones who have rotated or have become jaded. M has always known to have good customer base with deep pockets but they expect quality service. And for the majority you get that at M and their assistant Lavixens. Good service at good price. You can't go wrong really. And if notice the majority of those up charge girls already went through M or SA at some point. If they left M so fast likely because the customers didn't like them as much perhaps the real reason. Eye was popular at M because she had to perform to compete with Hana. You don’t see the same raving reviews for her anymore like when she was working at M. And she is now 2 times the price almost. This is a good example.
If I'm not mistaken Candygirlla is the sane as kpussycat. When I saw mini I don't recall there bring an up charge. I got to BBFS CIP with mini at the rate comparable to M.
[QUOTE=GoldDust58;5182033]Really depends. Why do the popular girls in NorCal not leave when they make significant less than Socal? Consistency is key. And orgs like M and now it seems like new org PKL too can keep certain girls busy. Particularly the newer ones to LA, not ones who have rotated or have become jaded. M has always known to have good customer base with deep pockets but they expect quality service. And for the majority you get that at M and their assistant Lavixens. Good service at good price. You can't go wrong really. And if notice the majority of those up charge girls already went through M or SA at some point. If they left M so fast likely because the customers didn't like them as much perhaps the real reason. Eye was popular at M because she had to perform to compete with Hana. You dont see the same raving reviews for her anymore like when she was working at M. And she is now 2 times the price almost. This is a good example.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Veni1;5181622]I see another blank as far as Newtopasian is concerned. Also no current reviews on that other site. Do you know if they are on a hiatus?[/QUOTE]Coming back next week.
There were a couple bookers who used real pics of new girls. Few girls will have 100% real or accurate pics because of glam and photoshop.
I always try to point out real or good representative pics for you guys.
[QUOTE=Eponymously;5181674]Can I ask a genuine question for the board? Is there any booker that has a reputation for using 100% real pics?...[/QUOTE]
KTE Baby Becky pics look like the girl with Radeon tattoo so those may be her real pics. The last time I saw that young girl was awesome but I forgot her names.
Wish we talked more about the hits. They had some girls with recognizable pics before.
[QUOTE=Frala;5180968]Seconding this statement. I try to avoid KTE because I have never seen a provider from them where the picture is even close to accurate, and they are extremely hit or miss, but for some reason, they manage to have an endless rotating supply of "new" girls, and my desire for variety gets the best of me. I've had way more misses than hits, but when they hit, they really hit.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=BonerAppetitty;5182146]KTE Baby Becky pics look like the girl with Radeon tattoo so those may be her real pics. The last time I saw that young girl was awesome but I forgot her names.
Wish we talked more about the hits. They had some girls with recognizable pics before.[/QUOTE]These pics were used to advertise Sara / La Lina when she was with SFK this time last year. Considering the mixed reviews at the time, I understand why she re-branded. That she did so in less than a month and stayed with the same org was odd tho.
[QUOTE=BoneRanger22;5182052]If I'm not mistaken Candygirlla is the sane as kpussycat. When I saw mini I don't recall there bring an up charge. I got to BBFS CIP with mini at the rate comparable to M.[/QUOTE]KPC basically died when Mini and Yuna left. Just after Mina went back to M as well. Last remaining girl is Kimi who went by Nabi when she was there briefly. It was a no up charge org them. Not it is combined with candygirlsla and they do up.
Charge but I think some girls are less then the full up charge.
[QUOTE=BonerAppetitty;5182146]KTE Baby Becky pics look like the girl with Radeon tattoo so those may be her real pics. The last time I saw that young girl was awesome but I forgot her names.
Wish we talked more about the hits. They had some girls with recognizable pics before.[/QUOTE]This is infamous dead fish Lexi. She has been working with baby Irina in NorCal at KGA and Kpleasures. She is still listed there as Lexi starting today in SJ.