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[QUOTE=RickNva;6248552]Thanks for heads-up. She's been on my "to do" list, guess I better move her up to top of list.
Curious, what was damage for hh and full hour?
Is that number her handler or directly to her?[/QUOTE]She uses a handler and hh is $. 30, don't know full hour. Pretty sure no matter what you pay for you get one pop so full hour probably not worth it.
[QUOTE=RickNva;6248079]I'm with you. I don't want to share my PII or leave my footprints anymore than minimally necessary. Likewise, I pay attention to the thoughts shared here regarding mongers giving in to providers demands like high donations for same services. Completely agree that as long as we cave in to their demands, they will just keep doing it.
I like your suggestion about going the Thai route. The place you had a dream, was it an AMP or part of ACS? Care to share details about the place? DM me if you want to avoid huge rush on the place.[/QUOTE]Hear hear, once you share something digitally you never get it back. I will wait until just my references are enough. I have enough; may be willing to trade info if this PII BS takes too long to burn out.
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As the trend continues I see other industry standards emerging. For instance it may follow that advance booking payments become the norm. Again, enough mongers go along with it, the providers realize they can get away with requiring it.
[/QUOTE]Is an "advance booking payments" a deposit? And you see this as a new industry standard? Who? What? Where? HUH?
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It's a robbery setup. She's mentioned on her.
Here many times. Don't go unless you have extra money you're trying to get rid of.
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[QUOTE=JacobsPatrick;6249017]Is an "advance booking payments" a deposit? And you see this as a new industry standard? Who? What? Where? HUH?[/QUOTE]It's your donation. I would avoid unless it's a known porn star with a viewable monger history. There's no difference than going to the casino if you can't afford to lose the chips you shouldn't be going to the casino. Would you give a street walker a deposit?
I got a text from a past ATF dreamer recently. Haven't seen her in 2 years. Her text says I'm coming into town, offering a holiday special. Text comes with a few sexy photos. We had a very good friendship / working relationship whatever you want to call it for a few years. A few years back she went on mandatory vacation. When she got picked up for her trip two or three days later I get a text from her phone offering a "SPECIAL" on multiple hours for a deposit. I didn't respond to the text. Later I came to find out it was her boyfriend using her phone.
I know never ever to give a deposit. The last text I got over the holiday was kind of the same thing. I'm coming into town. I'm offering a few dreamers a especial so I can get some things prior to visiting. The day she supposed to leave I get a multi hour dream package TEXT. Might as well call it donate an hour get an hour. This sounds fantastic to me because I can go at it for multiple hours. I know never give a deposit. I tell her I've had identity theft and I've shut down all of my cash apps. I told her I'd be happy to pick her up from the airport and donate items from the store when she arrived. The text comes back with I'll let you know what time I'm landing. I am fairly cheaply certain now that this is a scam.
The week she's supposed to come into town. She doesn't show up. No ad. I reached out to her asking if she was UTR. No response. Looking back I made the correct choice by not sending a donation of 5 Roses for a multi-day or multi hour dream.
Never send a deposit. You don't know who you're talkingtexting / emailing to on the other end of the technology device. Think with the big head.
Does anyone know something about this Thai provider? Photos are attractive. Unlike most Thai Mts, they show lots of skin. She wants $140/ hr, more than most. She's in Arlington. Any information would be welcome. If I pull the trigger I'll post a report. Thanks.
Rhino.
[QUOTE=JacobsPatrick;6249017]Is an "advance booking payments" a deposit? And you see this as a new industry standard? Who? What? Where? HUH?[/QUOTE]Playing devil's advocate here -.
After talking to one provider (whom I never met or will meet), their rationale for starting to ask for deposits or advance payments is because of the no-shows from the mongers. For example: a guy makes appointment for full hour at XXX amount. So she keeps that time plus additional time for pre- & post- clean up. That's time she could have "earned" money with other clients. Then guy doesn't show up and she loses money because of it. But like other businesses, requiring a deposit motivates the client to show up or at least call and cancel (allowing her to book another appointment. We see it with booking hotels, or flights to name a few.
To combat this, from our POV, we say thanks but no thanks and keep looking elsewhere. Like another previously said that if we cave into to this practice, it will become the norm. When it becomes the norm, there will be an increase of the ripoff queens giving fake addresses and keep your deposit (not to mention how much PII you just shared).
On the other hand, from their prospective, if you make an appointment, show up! At a minimum, contact them asap and cancel. Things happen that keeps us from showing up but letting them know keeps you in their good graces and they'll book you again. (This happened to me, booked with an AMP once giving my name and estimated time I'd arrive. Developed a stomach bug enroute. Bad food from street vendor, called and told them I needed to cancel. Called back the next day, they remembered my name and set appointment. When I arrived, was treated like an old friend with provider thanking me for courtesy of calling to cancel the previous day. Not just words, but their service and attitude made my time there memorable.).
Point being, maybe if mongers showed up for appointments or canceled in advance, they wouldn't feel the need to request deposits or advance payments to ensure they made some money. And those who do, we'd know are scams. Just my opinion.
I recently saw Sasha / fiona / khloe / Jennifer out Springfield. It was a bit difficult to setup. I finally get address and was omw. Arrived had to wait for 10 mins before I get room number. I get inside and see the girl in the pic. We shoot the shit for a good while before we get started. She is very cool but talkative. I had to push things along. She strips butt ass naked climbs up on the bed crawls over to junior and stuff him in her mouth bare. Then she flips over and let her head hang off the bed and let me throat fuck her until she gagged. I could've shot my load right then but wanted to sample the box.Told her I was ready. She turned around and gave me a good whiff of that muff then I had her bend over and arch her back slid inside her tight little juice box. Quiksand. I went to work ramming little ass. Then I folded her up like a pretzel and took her to poundtown until I pulled out a blew my load all over her deflated fun bags. I went for a qv was there 1 hr and some change. Damage 100. Good nut.
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Hello. Was she still at the motel 6? Or haa she upgraded to her good spots?
[QUOTE=ElliotSpitzer;6250778]I recently saw Sasha / fiona / khloe / Jennifer out Springfield. It was a bit difficult to setup. I finally get address and was omw. Arrived had to wait for 10 mins before I get room number. I get inside and see the girl in the pic. We shoot the shit for a good while before we get started. She is very cool but talkative. I had to push things along. She strips butt ass naked climbs up on the bed crawls over to junior and stuff him in her mouth bare. Then she flips over and let her head hang off the bed and let me throat fuck her until she gagged. I could've shot my load right then but wanted to sample the box.Told her I was ready. She turned around and gave me a good whiff of that muff then I had her bend over and arch her back slid inside her tight little juice box. Quiksand. I went to work ramming little ass. Then I folded her up like a pretzel and took her to poundtown until I pulled out a blew my load all over her deflated fun bags. I went for a qv was there 1 hr and some change. Damage 100. Good nut.
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[QUOTE=HaroldMyers;6251051]Hello. Was she still at the motel 6? Or haa she upgraded to her good spots?[/QUOTE]Better place. Bring her a few lottery scratch offs. She will be impressed.
And they raised their prices cause they had too many clients. Also I hardly doubt any of them are hurting for money when they are doing this part time and making 200k+ a year
[QUOTE=RickNva;6250527]Playing devil's advocate here -.
After talking to one provider (whom I never met or will meet), their rationale for starting to ask for deposits or advance payments is because of the no-shows from the mongers. For example: a guy makes appointment for full hour at XXX amount. So she keeps that time plus additional time for pre- & post- clean up. That's time she could have "earned" money with other clients. Then guy doesn't show up and she loses money because of it. But like other businesses, requiring a deposit motivates the client to show up or at least call and cancel (allowing her to book another appointment. We see it with booking hotels, or flights to name a few.
To combat this, from our POV, we say thanks but no thanks and keep looking elsewhere. Like another previously said that if we cave into to this practice, it will become the norm. When it becomes the norm, there will be an increase of the ripoff queens giving fake addresses and keep your deposit (not to mention how much PII you just shared).
On the other hand, from their prospective, if you make an appointment, show up! At a minimum, contact them asap and cancel. Things happen that keeps us from showing up but letting them know keeps you in their good graces and they'll book you again. (This happened to me, booked with an AMP once giving my name and estimated time I'd arrive. Developed a stomach bug enroute. Bad food from street vendor, called and told them I needed to cancel. Called back the next day, they remembered my name and set appointment. When I arrived, was treated like an old friend with provider thanking me for courtesy of calling to cancel the previous day. Not just words, but their service and attitude made my time there memorable.).
Point being, maybe if mongers showed up for appointments or canceled in advance, they wouldn't feel the need to request deposits or advance payments to ensure they made some money. And those who do, we'd know are scams. Just my opinion.[/QUOTE]
Has anyone taken a chance on her in Woodbridge?
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[QUOTE=RickNva;6250527]Playing devil's advocate here -.
Point being, maybe if mongers showed up for appointments or canceled in advance, they wouldn't feel the need to request deposits or advance payments to ensure they made some money. And those who do, we'd know are scams. Just my opinion.[/QUOTE]I will never give a deposit, because they will rip you off. Why would anyone send a deposit to a complete stranger for a not so legal transaction? Also, their client's failure to show is probably because their posted price is too high and they found something better. Probably is just a guess.
[QUOTE=RickNva;6250527]Playing devil's advocate here -.
maybe if mongers showed up for appointments or canceled in advance, they wouldn't feel the need to request deposits or advance payments to ensure they made some money. And those who do, we'd know are scams. Just my opinion.[/QUOTE]How many times does a monger have to get ghosted after they sent a deposit before they realize what's going on?
Would sending a deposit increase or decrease ghosting? Time management is important. No one likes their time wasted.
How many girls do you think actually enjoy the people visiting.
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Was talking to this one, Bri, and everything was going well until she got to "additional" screening requirements. I had already provided her exactly what she wanted as listed on her Private Delights ad which is references and verified reviews. She wanted a face pic of me and PII -- no way in hell.
I told her I'm never sending a face pic for safety and discretion. Then get this: to prove her point that she requires this of all clients and that "you are making a big deal of this" when other clients supposedly do not, SHE THEN SENT ME A SCREENSHOT OF A TEXT EXCHANGE WITH A PREVIOUS CLIENT, THEREBY EXPOSING HIS PIC AND PII TO ME!! Me, a perfect stranger, and now I have the info and pic of this poor guy and evidence that he visits escorts.
I pointed out this is EXACTLY why I would never send my PII and / or pic to any provider, I have no control over what they do with it and who they send it to. She never seemed to get this point tho, and kept making the same argument of why I should send her a pic anyways 🙄.
[QUOTE=ShootAndRoll;6251763]How many times does a monger have to get ghosted after they sent a deposit before they realize what's going on?
Would sending a deposit increase or decrease ghosting? Time management is important. No one likes their time wasted.
How many girls do you think actually enjoy the people visiting.[/QUOTE]As I said originally, playing devil's advocate. I wasn't trying to justify or support deposits. Just offering one provider's perspective on why they ask for them.
I completely agree we should never cave in to this practice as there are enough rip-off ads who would take $$ and ghost us.
But she had a point too. They block off time and plan to earn a little money. No shows = no money and time wasted she could have scheduled someone else. If guys change their minds, or find a cheaper provider, contact and cancel the original appointment. No harm no foul, everyone wins. Regardless of how much they earn annually, treat them with same courtesy you'd want shown to you on your job.
[QUOTE=RickNva;6252369]As I said originally, playing devil's advocate. I wasn't trying to justify or support deposits. Just offering one provider's perspective on why they ask for them.
I completely agree we should never cave in to this practice as there are enough rip-off ads who would take $$ and ghost us.
But she had a point too. They block off time and plan to earn a little money. No shows = no money and time wasted she could have scheduled someone else. If guys change their minds, or find a cheaper provider, contact and cancel the original appointment. No harm no foul, everyone wins. Regardless of how much they earn annually, treat them with same courtesy you'd want shown to you on your job.[/QUOTE]So who are you specifically advocating for? Why would you send money to a person you don't know for a less than legal transaction? Think McFly! Think! The real question is why so many are cancelling on her. Maybe she is not worth the posted rate? We have a lot of choice here in the DMV. Don't be a sucker. Of course, it's your money, but don't ***** about it when you're scammed.
[QUOTE=JacobsPatrick;6252635]So who are you specifically advocating for? Why would you send money to a person you don't know for a less than legal transaction? Think McFly! Think! The real question is why so many are cancelling on her. Maybe she is not worth the posted rate? We have a lot of choice here in the DMV. Don't be a sucker. Of course, it's your money, but don't ***** about it when you're scammed.[/QUOTE]Where did I say deposits are acceptable?
Why so defensive?
It's been said, "if one throws a rock in the air and it hits a dog, you'll hear it bark."
Has anyone seen her? She has been posting randomly every few months or so and just recently posted. I have been texting her but no response. Haven't seen her since pre-covid-19.
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My last report on Tina included her letting me take video of the encounter. I saw her twice after that and didn't even have to ask-I just pulled out my phone and she smiled for the camera.
This week I went to see he and brought my Hitachi Magic Wand to see if I could open her up to more things. As soon as I pilled it out of my coat pocket she opened up the night stand and pulled out her own. All I can say is it opened her up a bit for some ass play but still no anal. Her clit did swell immensely while I was pumping her standing mish and concentrating the magic wand right on her clit hood. Both my hands were full so she took over the camera duties.
Next thing I know she is pointing at the clock and I look over and see we had been fucking / sucking straight for 50 minutes. I pulled out and came on her face and got a bit in her hair for which she was not too pleased but said it was ok.
Hour of BBBJ, BBFS, ass play, 69, and COF was $.6 and .4 unsolicited tip. $$ total and well worth it. She is leaving next week for a rotation back to Flushing so book soon it you want to expand your video library.
Anyone TOFTT with this new Latina in Merrifield / Fairfax area? Her name is Ibelis, and her ads say she is new and has friends for 3-somes. TIA! [URL]https://sumosear.ch/images/phone/646-332-5006[/URL].
[QUOTE=Eddie223;6251466]Has anyone taken a chance on her in Woodbridge?
[URL]https://northern-virginia.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/exotic/miss-carmel--shes-a-/477707526604[/URL][/QUOTE]She is on Listcrawler in Raleigh. No reviews.
Please report if you toftt.
[QUOTE=OldBoomer;6253303]She is on Listcrawler in Raleigh. No reviews.
Please report if you toftt.[/QUOTE]My last few for the team haven't turned out well. Playing safe for a bit. Still have emotional damage from the old farting massage lady.
[QUOTE=FourNick8;6253247]Hour of BBBJ, BBFS, ass play, 69, and COF was $.6 and .4 unsolicited tip. $$ total and well worth it. She is leaving next week for a rotation back to Flushing so book soon it you want to expand your video library.[/QUOTE]Had booked to see her today while in Springfield area. But my wife decided to take day off and ride with me to my errands. Discreetly contacted handler and cancelled.
Will try again next week. Hope she'll still be here and handler didn't block my number.
Good evening gentlemen;.
I post and reply mostly on the massage board in NOVA, but have replied here a few times.
I often look at the full service providers and read your reports, but am still unsure about who to pull the trigger with. How do I know who is real, with real photos, etc?
I see links for post here for sumosearch listcrawler, adultsearch, skipthegames (does not seem to like my VPN), and megapersonals, etc. Is one website more legit than the others?
How do I know if a post is legit? Some have local area codes but I suppose those are burner phones.
Does independent really mean that, or is there always a handler / pimp someplace nearby.
For agencies, I have read the posts pro and con about providing PII. Are there quality agencies that do not require my workplace and other PII that could put me at risk?
I know not to send a deposit.
I also see more Latinas than Asians, a few black women and almost no white women (or you guys have let me know they have substance abuse issues, or worse).
For example, I am not a fan of bolt-ons, tattoos, or fluoroesent hair colors. Nipple piercings are hot.
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[QUOTE=JohnnySalami;6249058]It's a robbery setup. She's mentioned on her.
Here many times. Don't go unless you have extra money you're trying to get rid of.[/QUOTE]Robbed me. Can't believe she still posts.
Any Intel on this treat? Coms have been good and sent the requested verification pics but swear I saw a review months back regarding stick up scam.
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[QUOTE=RickKrungThep;6254040]Good evening gentlemen;.
I post and reply mostly on the massage board in NOVA, but have replied here a few times.
I often look at the full service providers and read your reports, but am still unsure about who to pull the trigger with. How do I know who is real, with real photos, etc?
I see links for post here for sumosearch listcrawler, adultsearch, skipthegames (does not seem to like my VPN), and megapersonals, etc. Is one website more legit than the others?
How do I know if a post is legit? Some have local area codes but I suppose those are burner phones.
Does independent really mean that, or is there always a handler / pimp someplace nearby.
For agencies, I have read the posts pro and con about providing PII. Are there quality agencies that do not require my workplace and other PII that could put me at risk?
I know not to send a deposit.
I also see more Latinas than Asians, a few black women and almost no white women (or you guys have let me know they have substance abuse issues, or worse).
For example, I am not a fan of bolt-ons, tattoos, or fluoroesent hair colors. Nipple piercings are hot.
[/QUOTE]If any of you gentlemen have some advice, tips or suggestions would you please DM me. I will also try to help you if it is about local massage, which I try to get out to once a week around NOVA.
Thanks very much.
RickKT.
She looks TGTBT. Totally my type. Anyone have info?
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This is a response to your previous post.
If the review here is good, you have a good chance. YMMV.
My experience is that the providers with reviews on the listing sites are more likely to be real. No guarantee.
Are they truly independent? Your kidding right?
I Never everr give PII.
RTFF. I don't me to be glib, you have posted enough to know you can do research here. Follow up with a PM to a reviewer for more.
Anyone know what GSH stands for?
Seems as though, "Must purchase content to meet" is the new "Deposit" scam. Don't trust this BS either.
[QUOTE=TheFatKid;6255364]Anyone know what GSH stands for?[/QUOTE]In the context of this fine hobby of ours. Giant Sweat Hog (aka BBW), perhaps? See Urban Dictionary.
[QUOTE=TheFatKid;6255364]Anyone know what GSH stands for?[/QUOTE]Same as GS.
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[QUOTE=BenDhover;6254392]Robbed me. Can't believe she still posts.[/QUOTE]Do the photos of Hunter look current or fake?
[QUOTE=ShootAndRoll;6256325]Do the photos of Hunter look current or fake?[/QUOTE]The photos keep changing, but the stories remain the same. Go to see her, get robbed. It's her, but she's going to introduce you to people you don't want to meet.
After confirming my appointment was with Tina 3 (three!) times, lo and behold I was greeted by Cherry. Normally drawing Cherry in an ACS would be a pleasant surprise as she is pretty, has decent natural (if starting to sag) B cups and a tight body but after driving to Springfield specifically for Tina was not happy. Went through with hhr for 130 as Cherry told me Tina wasn't available until later and I had to get going. CBJ, missionary, doggy. Visuals were good but bit of a dead fish.
Probably won't try again as you just can't trust the handler and Springfield is far for me, which is a shame because Tina checks a lot of my boxes.
Any info? Her pics go back and forth between a cute curvy girl and a big girl. Maybe TGTB.
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