Massage Parlor Reports

[QUOTE=Pussy Prowler]I don't understand why many of you are satisfied with paying close to 150 for a HJ. I like a nice rubdown from an attractive female like anyone else but unless a BJ or FS is going down I'm not going to bother. I know many legit massage places that are amazing, (pain stop massage, look it up on yelp. Com) that provide that, so when I got to a mp I want some EXTRAs, I don't have time or $ to build trust, be a guina pig, etc. To each his own I guess, from reading these boards and from personal experience, the only places I've been to and also read about on here where FS is def a no joke possibility is the spa in morris il as well as elegant on 26th in chinatown. Which sucks for me bc I would love to find a mp with non asian providers where I could def get a BJ or FS with no bs![/QUOTE]
I gather from your post that you don't really care about a good massage, but rather a rubdown and bj and fs. OK I can respect that but everything that you need and want is available at the many apts around town. Why waste your time and money in a massage parlor? Consider just going straight to the apt and forget about mp's.

Where abouts is location?

Even just neighborhood.

[QUOTE=Dangerously]I went there a few days ago. The spa is so new that I do not want to leave any details to make sure that they cannot identify me.

For $55, you'll get a good quality massage.

I believe they are struggling what their business model should be - legit vs. limited extras. If you play your cards well, you can expect a HE, with limited touching. The massage can be uncovered, but the therapist will be fully clothed at all times. There will be some, but little teasing. No upfront negotiations.

PM if you must.[/QUOTE]

Stopped by Elegant on my way to lunch in Chinatown. Drew Shirley, not really much to look at, communication was a little hit-and-miss, but she meant well. She seemed to really want to go FS, but I was looking for just a little less, for a little less (paid the same as the hour rate for massage). Probably only a 6 out of 10 for that service, but got the job done.

My question is, for those of you who do opt for FS. What, just on that little massage table? Doesn't seem like it'd be that comfortable. And the rooms at that place are so narrow, there's just not a lot of space to maneuver in. Maybe that's part of the "charm", but I don't see myself going for it.

[QUOTE=Cpl Flirt]Ok, so I have a bone to pick with you, Pussy power and anyone else that thinks the MP ladies should just bend over and take it from you.

Back in the late 60s off base you would pay 50 for BJ and 100 for a good FS and you where lucky to get 15 mints top with her. Now we pay around 70 for a TS and 30 for some extras and you get a hour with her in a clean place. Seems to me the MP did not keep up with inflation.

Also my wife and I used to swing a lot. But she would often get tired of the guys thinking she is a raming post for there bick d_ck! All because you are paying for a massage does not give you the right to want or deserve more. Nor should you be cheap on the tip all because you did not get it your WAY!

Some one else posted that you need to treat it like a date. Show up clean, with a smile, and set your goals low so if you get something more excellent. But the ladies work hard to keep us happy. Lets not make there day worst by no tip.

So chill and lets all be nice.

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Sorry, Cpl, but I'm with Pna on this one. No extras, no tip is the rule. If you tip without extras, why would any masseuse want to provide them? I've only tipped a couple of times without extras, and that was because the girls busted their ass to give me a great massage. That is the ONLY exception to the rule.

Listen, when you go to a MP, you know why you're there and THEY know why you're there. That's why most girls give lame massages, because the customer usually doesn't care all that much about the massage. If you go to certain parlors, you damn well expect more. I AM THE CUSTOMER. If they don't want to do it MY way, how I want it, why should I tip them?

Not all of these ladies work hard to keep us happy. Pna's girl sure didn't. If he had tipped her, I'd be ripping him. He did exactly what I would do, what I feel all of us SHOULD do. But to each his own, you can do what you want. So can Pna. So can I.

[QUOTE=Pussy Prowler]I don't understand why many of you are satisfied with paying close to 150 for a HJ. I like a nice rubdown from an attractive female like anyone else but unless a BJ or FS is going down I'm not going to bother. ....
To each his own I guess, from reading these boards and from personal experience, the only places I've been to and also read about on here where FS is def a no joke possibility is the spa in morris il as well as elegant on 26th in chinatown. Which sucks for me bc I would love to find a mp with non asian providers where I could def get a BJ or FS with no bs![/QUOTE]There is plenty of no-joke full service available in town. It just costs more than the $150 you mentioned above.

You are certainly not the first guy who wants high grade poon at a low price. We all want that. It is just that most of us recognize you have to pay for it one way or the other.

Because of the reviews and went back to this establishment (cicero and montrose) and I got sara for an hour, she gives an ok, light touch massage and at the end she told me I could help my self why she rubbed my stomach and that maybe it would be different if I were her regular custormer. Nothing personal she isn't that cute or friendly, I have to give this place a thumbs down til they figure out what they are.

Regards,

Gf

P.S. No shower and way to much oil.

Dreamt of a half hour with Susie at KM. I think she's the nicest AMP I've seen. She started the HR before the flip (ok!) and roaming everywhere. Wouldn't take of her top but it was my first time with her. After the release she continued the massage for another 10 minutes while we talked a bit. I really enjoy that sort of "cool down" as opposed to a thank you while walking out the door. She has a sweet face. Cute smile.

Oh, I've been there before for Julie and when Susie answered the door she asked me if I didn't want a massage with her and Julie. Good idea. I'll be back.

[QUOTE=F Blaster]Sorry, Cpl, but I'm with Pna on this one. No extras, no tip is the rule. If you tip without extras, why would any masseuse want to provide them? I've only tipped a couple of times without extras, and that was because the girls busted their ass to give me a great massage. That is the ONLY exception to the rule.

Listen, when you go to a MP, you know why you're there and THEY know why you're there. That's why most girls give lame massages, because the customer usually doesn't care all that much about the massage. If you go to certain parlors, you damn well expect more. I AM THE CUSTOMER. If they don't want to do it MY way, how I want it, why should I tip them?

Not all of these ladies work hard to keep us happy. Pna's girl sure didn't. If he had tipped her, I'd be ripping him. He did exactly what I would do, what I feel all of us SHOULD do. But to each his own, you can do what you want. So can Pna. So can I.[/QUOTE]

Well said! And certainly the way it works for most patrons.

[QUOTE=F Blaster]Sorry, Cpl, but I'm with Pna on this one. No extras, no tip is the rule. If you tip without extras, why would any masseuse want to provide them? I've only tipped a couple of times without extras, and that was because the girls busted their ass to give me a great massage. That is the ONLY exception to the rule.

Listen, when you go to a MP, you know why you're there and THEY know why you're there. That's why most girls give lame massages, because the customer usually doesn't care all that much about the massage. If you go to certain parlors, you damn well expect more. I AM THE CUSTOMER. If they don't want to do it MY way, how I want it, why should I tip them?

Not all of these ladies work hard to keep us happy. Pna's girl sure didn't. If he had tipped her, I'd be ripping him. He did exactly what I would do, what I feel all of us SHOULD do. But to each his own, you can do what you want. So can Pna. So can I.[/QUOTE]

F Blaster's right on this. To quote one of you guys, I forget who, but I read it here on this forum, "Let's not reward the girls for good behavior".

[QUOTE=Chi Town]Where abouts is location?

Even just neighborhood.[/QUOTE]

4817 W. Montrose Ave

@cpl

Not to flame you, old man, but where did you ever get the idea this was like a date? This is a service that you're buying, and they're selling. We live in a very F'd up society, where sex is the only thing or service you can legally have, legally give away, but cannot legally sell. This is why the sign out front says 'massage' not 'sex'.

Now in the case of this girl I was posting about, I paid for 2 legitimate services (a shave and an hour of massage) and was also looking for the third service (BJ/FS). She provided the shave, blatantly shorted me on the massage, and totally shut me down on the 3rd. WHAT exactly am I tipping FOR?

To put it a different way: Say you hire a man to clean up your yard. You tell him 'take an hour. Fill this trash can, pile up those rocks, and if you have time to stack these paint cans I'll give you a bonus'. So, he fills the trash can, moves one rock, and never touches the paint cans. And, after 40 minutes, he has the nerve to say "Hey, where's my bonus?" Are you going to give it to him? Didn't think so. These chicks aren't doing this because they're nymphos and you're the hottest thing to come down the pike. They do it because it's their job, it's how they make their living, and that's all. Everyone else is expected to do a decent job and provide good measure (even ex-Gov Roddy, can we say 'honest services'?) so why not these girls.

On a side note: How many of these women actually have massage licenses from the state of Illinois? Not many I'd bet, as I don't think they give the classes or the test in Chinese, Korean, or Spanish (OK, maybe Spanish). If you give a massage without a license it is a class A misdemeanor, and repeated offenses are a class 4 felony EXACTLY THE SAME as prostitution. So, pragmatically speaking, if you're going to bend the law anyway, isn't it better to be well-compensated for it than poorly compensated?

[QUOTE=Pna]@cpl


On a side note: How many of these women actually have massage licenses from the state of Illinois? Not many I'd bet, as I don't think they give the classes or the test in Chinese, Korean, or Spanish (OK, maybe Spanish). If you give a massage without a license it is a class A misdemeanor, and repeated offenses are a class 4 felony EXACTLY THE SAME as prostitution. So, pragmatically speaking, if you're going to bend the law anyway, isn't it better to be well-compensated for it than poorly compensated?[/QUOTE]

Many Chinese girls have trouble passing the massage license courses or test in Illinois due to language difficulties. That's why a number of them go to California where they can take the courses and test in Chinese.

A former MT from the (now gone) Jason and Li's MP in CT Mall explained this to me. I am not sure about other languages offered in California, but the Chinese language offer is certainly a draw. Its a win-win for California, as the girls have to take a long series of classes involving living there and temporarilly spending into the the local economy for Arnold.

Now THAT I did not know. Thanks for the info. There are still plenty of unlicensed masseuses practicing out there, though.

Here's a link to the IDFPR website for verifying licensees:
[url]https://www.idfpr.com/dpr/licenselookup/default.asp[/url]

Been enjoying some superior service at Relax beyond the the HR with a couple of different girls since everyone's old favorite left there.

Seniors feel free to PM for details.

If I get a massage, and it was plesant, I will tip the same as what I would any hair stylist or massage therapist. $5. If I get an attitude OR a sh1tty massage, there is nothing.

If other services are offered, and they are offered without a hassle or with a smile, I will tip and probably over tip $10. I like establishing a repeat relationship.

I think you are justified giving a small tip on a average basic massage. You are not obligated on crappy ones and only over tip if you plan on going back and seeing her again.

One last thing. Never tip on services to be provided next time.