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Liz, who now goes by "Elizabeth" used to work at Lotus, where, I understand, she offered a healthy menu. She left and started her own gig off Howell Branch Road and is now quite the prude. Draping is optional, but that's about it. I've read from others on this board that while at Lotus, she was quite the provider.
Liz is the same Elisabeth that used to work at Lotus for owners Deva (also goes by Jayden) and her husband Dirk (very werid euro guy) in Altamonte Springs. She's about 27-28 years old browns curly hair and has braces also wears eye glasses too. Has tatoo on one of her shoulders. Sort of has a poor white trash look. Up at lotus she used to offer nude h/e and full service, but not BJ, because of her braces. She said she would offer once she got them off. She is a little skiddish from the recent massage bust and also paranoid about her boy friend tracking her down at work. The only clients she's offering extras to as the ones shes met at lotus that has followed her to her new location. You might have luck if you say you recognize her form there (lotus).
Good luck.
Liz is the same Elizabeth that use to work at Lotus massage for owners Deva (also goes by Jayden) and her husband Dirk (a very weird euro guy), in Altamonte Springs. She's white/caucasian about 27-28 years old, brown curly hair, has braces and also wears glasses. Has a tattoo on one of her shoulders. Sort of has a poor white trash appearance. When she was at Lotus she offered nude he to full service, the only thing she didn't do was BJ's due to her braces which she said she would offer once they were taken off. She is a little skiddish from the recent massage busts and always paranoid about her boyfriend constantly tracking her down at work. The only clients she's offering extras to are the ones she's met at Lotus. You might have luck if you say you recognize her from there.
Yes, you nailed it. That's her. She told me she was leaving her current location because of the rent. She will be sharing space with Susan Flitter on Highway 436 in Altamonte near Best Buy. Wow. I love this site. It is great to know the full story.
Responding to MFAN2020's request for info on a four-handed massage by Fiona and Lucia:
Have not experienced the four-handed massage but have had a massage from Fiona several months ago. Good legit massage. No extras asked for or offered.
[QUOTE=Mfan2020]Hey anyone have any info on this ad?
[url]http://orlando.craigslist.org/ths/732283964.html[/url][/QUOTE]I did the double and I got a good massage from her and Lucia, but not extras. Kept the drape on. I expected more as I saw the ad in the erotic section and said so when I made my appointment. I was disappointed.
If I wanted a good massage, I'd go there again, if I want extras, I go elsewhere.
Can someone please post a phone number for Elizabeth?
Thanks
Located 434 and 436 in Altamonte Springs.Apopka and Longwood area.
(407)435-2617 Lizwww.orlandotouch.com.
[QUOTE=Fluxaeon]Yes, you nailed it. That's her. She told me she was leaving her current location because of the rent. She will be sharing space with Susan Flitter on Highway 436 in Altamonte near Best Buy. Wow. I love this site. It is great to know the full story.[/QUOTE]I've seen Susan Flitter a few times in the past year. I found her in the phone book - she doesn't post on CL, or advertise in OW, etc. She's ok w/nudity as well, but that's it. Anyone have input?
I went to see her about 2 years ago after another massage therapist told me about her. She was attractive, friendly and punctual. Her place is clean, well decorated like an Arabian Nights theme. The massage was good about a 8 of 10. When it was getting close to the end of the hour, I asked her about a HE and she told me no massage has a happy ending it's always sad. She told me she didn't offer that or any extra on the menu. I came back 1 or 2 more times but, then moved on.
I decided to wait on trying Elizabeth until I hear a few more reports (especially from her Lotus regulars). I did not want to TOFTT.
I went to ToA. The pretty Latina hostess is from PR, and was a LMT there, but the test here is in English (her English is not so good). I encouraged her to take the test. BTW, she is pretty, but not a spinner, but to me, I could just look at her all day.
One bonus point: at ToA they no longer where those smocks/scrubs. They wear white polos and regular pants or shorts.
After I pay the house fee (.9), I am shown to one of the rooms. After a couple of minutes, K** walks in the room (she is the tne that looks like Aunt Esther from Sanford & Son ([url]http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/thumb/d/de/180px-Aunt_Esther.jpg)[/url], but she is thin.
The massage was 7/10, but I will bump it up to 8.5/10 because I left happy and satisfied. Tip: 4 for overall good service.
Be careful and have fun.
If anyone that lives in the Altamonte area and wants to get a new report about Elizabeth, I would appreciate it. Her rates are low (.35 for 30, .5 for 60, and .8 for 90).
I would be interested in knowing if her technique has improved since Lotus or if she is just too paranoid to give good, tension-relieving service.
Have fun and be safe.
Hi guys due to a little family crisis I have been away for a while and now that I'm back I have seen this post on CL Therapeutic that makes no sense to me. I emailed her to the CL email address and never got a response. Is this what I think it is just a scam/rip off? Your input is appreciated
CIU
[url]http://orlando.craigslist.org/ths/751152299.html[/url]
[QUOTE=CoolinUSA]Hi guys due to a little family crisis I have been away for a while and now that I'm back I have seen this post on CL Therapeutic that makes no sense to me. I emailed her to the CL email address and never got a response. Is this what I think it is just a scam/rip off? Your input is appreciated
CIU
[url]http://orlando.craigslist.org/ths/751152299.html[/url][/QUOTE]
I wouldn't say it's a scam, as much as it's spam...
[QUOTE=Prophotog]I wouldn't say it's a scam, as much as it's spam...[/QUOTE]I have tried to contact this site on 3 occasions and never received an answer. She is either a "flake" or it's a scam.
[QUOTE=CoolinUSA]Hi guys due to a little family crisis I have been away for a while and now that I'm back I have seen this post on CL Therapeutic that makes no sense to me. I emailed her to the CL email address and never got a response. Is this what I think it is just a scam/rip off? Your input is appreciated.
CIU[/QUOTE]Oh no, it can't be a scam. She clearly states that she is "in your local area." So she knows where you live, and she lives there, too!
I wonder how anyone tried to contact her--I can't see any link to contact anyone at the site. I did figure out how to register with the site. But that did nothing for me.
If this isn't a scam, I don't know what is.
[QUOTE=Gentleman 100]If anyone that lives in the Altamonte area and wants to get a new report about Elizabeth, I would appreciate it. Her rates are low (.35 for 30, .5 for 60, and .8 for 90).
I would be interested in knowing if her technique has improved since Lotus or if she is just too paranoid to give good, tension-relieving service.
Have fun and be safe.[/QUOTE]
G100,
Visited Liz today and there was no menu. Granted it was my first time with her, i did not get impression future visits would heed better results.
Massage was just good, at best.
BB
[QUOTE=Mr Orlando]Is it rue she got busted?
Anyone know the details.[/QUOTE]
Mr.O
I know her website and email are still functioning. Other than that i dont know.
BB
[QUOTE=Bklyn Born]G100,
Visited Liz today and there was no menu. Granted it was my first time with her, i did not get impression future visits would heed better results.
Massage was just good, at best.
BB[/QUOTE]
Thank you for the information. In a way I hope that she is 100% legit. I think she gives a good, relaxing massage, all in a good looking package. I have an appointment with her tomorrow. I will post what happened.
Be safe
I saw Elizabeth today and I am convinced that she is 100% legit. If you want a good, legitimate massage, then she is the one.
As others have posted recently, there is no dessert menu. I would recommend going to an AMP if you want any extras.
I give the massage itself a higher rating than others: 9.5/10. I think that her technique has improved greatly since Lotus (IMHO).
Her place is small, but clean (shares space with another LMT). No rush and gave me 100% of the time I paid for. I shall return.
Bottom line: she is a good therapist and I recommend her for legitimate (no extras) massage.
Be safe.
Well I was not done with my visits. I later visited an old stand-by, International Therapy (US 17/92 near Thurston's). I have been a few times, and almost all visits I get dessert.
Today J**** was on deck. Thin, Korean spinner (a little pouch, but that's okay). The TS was thorough. Good Asian service on the massage. I left happy and satisfied.
House: .8
Tip: .2 (lower than my normal tip: her technique was a little rushed*).
*Compared to Elizabeth.
Take care and be safe.
[QUOTE=Bklyn Born]Mr.O
I know her website and email are still functioning. Other than that i dont know.
BB[/QUOTE]She didn't get busted foir menu items. she got busted for not having a massage lic. She is facing a felony charge.
Alexis got busted with the same charge and is getting jail time.
be safe
Has anyone been to East-West in Longwood since the raids earlier this year? I always got a great massage and possibilities of leaving happy and relaxed.
This was one of my top 5 MPs but I have not been back since the raids.
Thanks and be safe.
[QUOTE=Mr Orlando]She didn't get busted foir menu items. she got busted for not having a massage lic. She is facing a felony charge.
Alexis got busted with the same charge and is getting jail time.
be safe[/QUOTE]
Are you saying the massage therapists are getting jail time for not having a license? Can you point to arrest records, etc? If this is true, please let me know, I will see what I can do to arrange good attorneys for them. I have had enough.
BTW, if they were busted for something else, like drugs, I don't even want to hear about it.
In a county where real crime is rampant, our wonderful media needs to be on this story.
I am good friends with a lady who gives massage I have known her for over a decade (she is legit tho). It is indeed the law that a masseuese must have a valid license in order to give massages for compensation including bartering for stuff in this state. It is a felony the same as a doctor not having a license. Also the masseuses have to have all kinds of permits for their places of business much like a retail place. SHe told me that she pays close to $600 a year just in permits, not to metntion that she has to renew her massage license every 3 years for over $100. I think this is just a way LE is trying ot crack down on all our fun. Me personally, I dont see any girl that isn't licensed and up to date with all her shit because they are too easy a target for LE. THey can get busted for so many things, and serious crimes like felonies. Licensed girls who do a little extras are safer because they can only get busted for misdemeanor prostitution. If a girl is licensed she is not a big target from what i understand. I always ask and girls that are on the up and up are happy to show me their shit. girls that are not get defensive and want to know why I am asking. But all that shit is public info anyways so there's no need to act like that.Those asian places employ a lot of illegals so I rarely ever go there.I feel like they are always being watched you know.? I prefer seeing a girl working on her own not at an AMP. I feel its safer.
[QUOTE=Exec Talent]
In a county where real crime is rampant, our wonderful media needs to be on this story.[/QUOTE]
I know of absolutely no history with our local media standing up to law enforcement. They may do a story about Kevin Beary spending money on 14 elephant guns (without any history of rampaging elephants in the county), but then they'll say "We're prepared in case it happens."
[QUOTE=Exec Talent]Are you saying the massage therapists are getting jail time for not having a license? Can you point to arrest records, etc? If this is true, please let me know, I will see what I can do to arrange good attorneys for them. I have had enough.
BTW, if they were busted for something else, like drugs, I don't even want to hear about it.
In a county where real crime is rampant, our wonderful media needs to be on this story.[/QUOTE]Massage by Alexis. She was arrested 2 times and is looking at jail time. Massage by Grace was just busted last month. Call Grace her number is still working and she will tell you that she was busted.
As for Alexis. Her court date is coming up. She bonded out several months ago.
The CL URL that you listed can be found under other CL THS sites. Just look up in Washington DC or Baltimore (Places I frequent.) They are making money with Google ads. You unknowingly click on the link on the site which is an embedded google link and cha-ching, someone is making a few cents. Multiply that by all the times I've seen it listed.
[QUOTE=CoolinUSA]Hi guys due to a little family crisis I have been away for a while and now that I'm back I have seen this post on CL Therapeutic that makes no sense to me. I emailed her to the CL email address and never got a response. Is this what I think it is just a scam/rip off? Your input is appreciated
CIU
[url]http://orlando.craigslist.org/ths/751152299.html[/url][/QUOTE]
First, I'd like to thank all the folks here for the excellent advice that I have gleaned from the pages.
Unfortunately, Orlando is my home turf, so I am reluctant to exercise this knowledge unless I get very comfortable (I. E. , many visits).
To everyone's credit, I have been to three separate AMPs in the North East (DC, MD) and have scored each time on visit one! Thanks to all of YOU!
I tried to get a massage (real massage here) at My Thai but there was a sign on the door that said they were in session and to come back in an hour or so. I didn't really have the time to wait, so I went to Natural Therapy on Mills.
The place is small but really nice. I ended up with a beautiful provider named C*C*. I paid for 1. 5 hours (my back really needed it). The massage was not rushed and her hands played enough to get a response from me, however, nothing was offered and nothing was requested. I will return and ask for the same masseuse.
One odd thing that occurred right as I was leaving. A customer came in and C*C* wouldn't let me out of the room until the customer left (probably one of your guys or maybe Uncle LEO).
The guy came in looking for a specific masseuse but the names he gave were no longer there (or maybe they don't use the names anymore.)
On my way out, I saw a really beautiful girl whose name was Ch**s**.
Heather is advertising heavily in Craigslist (therapeutic services). I know that she used to offer extras, but publicly claims no more.
Has anyone visited her recently? Feel free to PM me with details.
[url]www.BodyDelightByHeather.com[/url]
[QUOTE=Gentleman 100]Heather is advertising heavily in Craigslist (therapeutic services). I know that she used to offer extras, but publicly claims no more.
Has anyone visited her recently? Feel free to PM me with details.
[url]www.BodyDelightByHeather.com[/url][/QUOTE]I have seen heather 4 times. She provides a great legit massage. No more menu items. Just a good massage.
Went to Asahi last night late.
I hadnt been in awhile because I have been on a hunt for independent MTs with big titts. But I digress...
The experience overall was good. The thing about Asahi is that they change therapists every few months, so if variety is your thing this is good. I had a cute therapist named Sue. I arrived at about 11:50, and they close at midnight. The mamasan said, "Its late, only half hour available". I said, "no problem."
Su did a good job of the table shower. The massage was mostly light touch, but I think all parties involved knew what I was there for. To make a long story short, I left happy and paid .4 plus .6 for the house.
[QUOTE=Gentleman 100]Heather is advertising heavily in Craigslist (therapeutic services). I know that she used to offer extras, but publicly claims no more.
Has anyone visited her recently? Feel free to PM me with details.
[url]www.BodyDelightByHeather.com[/url][/QUOTE]I'd like an update on Heather to if anyone has one.
I use to be a regular of hers but haven't seen her in about a year.
I can tell you in the past the better she got to know you the more the menu expanded.
She has a really hot body (so so face).
It is all natural and I really enjoyed practicing Russian with her.
[QUOTE=Gentleman 100]Heather is advertising heavily in Craigslist (therapeutic services). I know that she used to offer extras, but publicly claims no more.
Has anyone visited her recently? Feel free to PM me with details.
[url]www.BodyDelightByHeather.com[/url][/QUOTE]I'd like an update on Heather to if anyone has one.
I use to be a regular of hers but haven't seen her in about a year.
I can tell you in the past the better she got to know you the more the menu expanded.
She has a really hot body (so so face). It is all natural and I really enjoyed practicing Russian with her. Never quite got to FS yet.
Ok guys I need your help and a lot of it. I went to Ginza tonight. Most of you have been there. They've had some tough times this year. Right now they're facing the worst of them. Lilly seriously needs our help. She's looking at days where she only has one or two customers. There's no way anyone can keep a business open like that.
Let's also keep in mind that Lilly has always been first class. In my book she's the best in the business. She's also a single parent trying to raise a child all by herself.
I'm calling on my brother board members to step up. Go see her. Tell her you heard how slow it is and then give her an extra $10, $20, or $50 bucks to help her out. If you can't do this because she's a wonderful person who deserves our help then do it for selfish reasons. The sooner her business is rocking the sooner you're going to see new girls and more of a menu.
She needs our help. I for one am going back next week for a quick half hour and dropping another $50 tip. She knows it's just to help her in a tough time so it isn't going to effect our long term prices. She's not stupid, but she sure as hell is sweet.
Please spread this around. (and for God sakes...this isn't about going in and trying to get extras. This is about helping someone. Please keep that in mind.) Let's step up and TOFTT.
[QUOTE=Hotrodvfr]I'd like an update on Heather to if anyone has one.
I use to be a regular of hers but haven't seen her in about a year.
I can tell you in the past the better she got to know you the more the menu expanded.
She has a really hot body (so so face). It is all natural and I really enjoyed practicing Russian with her. Never quite got to FS yet.[/QUOTE]
Please search previous posts.. Heather has been over talked on this board. she may or may not have had menu items in the past. She is now 100% legit. can't we move on from this one... Just mt 2 cents
On a side not. Uncle leo WAS OUT last night. the daily roll call at 33rd shows4 or 5 busts on the trail
[QUOTE=Moonlightbiker]Ok guys I need your help and a lot of it. I went to Ginza tonight. Most of you have been there. They've had some tough times this year. Right now they're facing the worst of them. Lilly seriously needs our help. She's looking at days where she only has one or two customers. There's no way anyone can keep a business open like that.
Let's also keep in mind that Lilly has always been first class. In my book she's the best in the business. She's also a single parent trying to raise a child all by herself.
I'm calling on my brother board members to step up. Go see her. Tell her you heard how slow it is and then give her an extra $10, $20, or $50 bucks to help her out. If you can't do this because she's a wonderful person who deserves our help then do it for selfish reasons. The sooner her business is rocking the sooner you're going to see new girls and more of a menu.
She needs our help. I for one am going back next week for a quick half hour and dropping another $50 tip. She knows it's just to help her in a tough time so it isn't going to effect our long term prices. She's not stupid, but she sure as hell is sweet.
Please spread this around. (and for God sakes...this isn't about going in and trying to get extras. This is about helping someone. Please keep that in mind.) Let's step up and TOFTT.[/QUOTE]
Sorry, but no. Lilly was great and I loved Ginza, but the service dropped WAY off. This isn't United Way or Red Cross. If a business wants more customers, then it provides better service BEFORE it gets them. If you want to overtip in hopes of getting something better in the future, that's your business.
However, it's more likely to lead them to believe that they don't need to improve service if they're already getting enough money as it is. That's the outcome I see from your TOFTT plan. Giving more money for less service has never been an incentive for the service to improve.
[QUOTE=Sponge Worthy]Sorry, but no. Lilly was great and I loved Ginza, but the service dropped WAY off. This isn't United Way or Red Cross. If a business wants more customers, then it provides better service BEFORE it gets them. If you want to overtip in hopes of getting something better in the future, that's your business.
However, it's more likely to lead them to believe that they don't need to improve service if they're already getting enough money as it is. That's the outcome I see from your TOFTT plan. Giving more money for less service has never been an incentive for the service to improve.[/QUOTE]
In this economy we are all feeling the pinch. I know it sounds cold, However good service gets rewarded and bad service gets dropped. I have not been to Ginza and can't provide any details however at the time of service I am sure she got compensated for her time.
How about this... Lets start a fund for all the guys who toftt and give them some money back for the bad service they got.
Kudos for caring...
Wife and I went here for a couples massage. There was alot of verbal teasing but suddenly, they went totally cold and rushed us out the door. Not sure at all why. I wonder if they thought we were cops? My wife really wanted to lick some nice Korean p*ssy, like her own. Oh well, back home tommorow so no retry time. Have fun everyone.
[QUOTE=Sponge Worthy]Sorry, but no. Lilly was great and I loved Ginza, but the service dropped WAY off. This isn't United Way or Red Cross. If a business wants more customers, then it provides better service BEFORE it gets them. If you want to overtip in hopes of getting something better in the future, that's your business.
However, it's more likely to lead them to believe that they don't need to improve service if they're already getting enough money as it is. That's the outcome I see from your TOFTT plan. Giving more money for less service has never been an incentive for the service to improve.[/QUOTE]
You couldn't be more wrong. Lilly's quality of service never dropped. Ginza itself has had it's share of outstanding and not outstanding girls, but Lilly has always been rock solid. I've never read of a single person who didn't say she is anything but the best out there.
Besides, I'm talking about having the class to help out another person. Maybe it's important to me because I realize that private businesses are what keep us from being a police state where we are all working for the government and doing exactly what they want us to do. Support those who don't fall in line with everyone else.
I don't frequent other boards so my voice is limited. Obviously there will be those who only care about themselves but I'm sure there are plenty of guys, and gals, like myself who would step up and help someone in need if they knew about it.