[QUOTE=Watk5399;1652792]I went one time great massage no extra.[/QUOTE]I went last Monday 1/14 One older lady and a younger lady were up front. Older lady did the massage. Nice massage w older lady left very happy. YMMV I suppose.
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[QUOTE=Watk5399;1652792]I went one time great massage no extra.[/QUOTE]I went last Monday 1/14 One older lady and a younger lady were up front. Older lady did the massage. Nice massage w older lady left very happy. YMMV I suppose.
[QUOTE=Watk5399;1659079]I agree, and all in. Lets do it.[/QUOTE]Agreed. I'm batting 50. 50 on actually getting what I umm, came for.
[QUOTE=Ral613; 1658145]I'm not sure why, but decided on a whim to drop in 7313 before going to the gym. It had been a while, but recognized by the manager (is that a good thing) and asked if I would like the 'new girl'. Sure – why not. I had reasonable expectations (good massage / no extras) , but as always you hope for more.
She was attractive and nice, and the massage was great. There was a little teasing on the flip and with a few minutes to go she offered 'oil' and started playing with my nipples. It was fun, but I just wasn't into finishing myself and she wasn't going to either (I didn't press the issue).
So, like the majority of reports on here. Good massage, no extras. Good thing I do actually like a good massage, and any extra is viewed truly as an extra.[/QUOTE]Sometimes all you need to do is start and they will finish. It's a test (again, sometimes).
Day 3 of boycott. Found a different massage experience each day on backpage. All 3 turned out to be much better value than any of the AMPs I have been to. Aerial was awesome. Silky soft and pleasing. Takira was a chocolate honey but her Asian roommate showed up and I went for the four hand massage. You know what they say about friends with benefits. And lastly Camille. She was a little older but extremely experienced with the soft touch massage. All 3 "peaked" my interest in BP girls. And all 3 came in under budget. Batting 100% and without the nasty attitudes, poor hygiene, random interruptions of an AMP.
So Boycott continues.
Gentlemen,
Coming to Raleigh from Fayetteville Friday am and was hoping to see if anyone had some info on this lady Estelle.
[url]http://raleigh.backpage.com/BodyRubs/very-relaxing-therapeutic-touch-reiki-reflexology-and-tantra-energy-19/5455912[/url]
You can also PM me. Thanks,
Moonshine
[QUOTE=Moonshine910; 1660616]Gentlemen,
Coming to Raleigh from Fayetteville Friday am and was hoping to see if anyone had some info on this lady Estelle.
[url]http://raleigh.backpage.com/BodyRubs/very-relaxing-therapeutic-touch-reiki-reflexology-and-tantra-energy-19/5455912[/url]
You can also PM me. Thanks,
Moonshine[/QUOTE]She hasn't seen 19 in many years. I saw her about a year ago and I would guess that she is around 40. I found her to be a little too strange for my tastes but others may disagree. Massage was OK and I was happy when I left but I would not repeat.
Ortho
[QUOTE=Ortho313; 1660655]She hasn't seen 19 in many years. I saw her about a year ago and I would guess that she is around 40. I found her to be a little too strange for my tastes but others may disagree. Massage was OK and I was happy when I left but I would not repeat.
Ortho[/QUOTE]She's definitely unusual. Only one experience- which was not bad- but also not really good. The set up is as advertised. A house in a secluded cul-de-sac with an odd way of entering from an adjacent road. The house was clean and a room was dedicated to the massage table with certificates hanging on the wall, etc. She obviously wears wigs in the photos and may have one on when you arrive. I'd put her in her late 40's. Saying she is 19 years old is really a good reflection of the overall oddnessof the experience. It is not dangerous odd- just flaky odd.
The massage itself was very lackluster. More of a weak rubbing on the back, legs, etc. If I pay for an hour, I'd like some real massage. That part was not satisfying and she gave the massage while sitting in a chair next to a real massage table. Aside from the bad ergonomics of that for her it meant there was no pressure in the massage.
She carries on an interesting conversation which is not too far from the typical "crystals and holistic healing" type conversations with regular massage providers.
The flip fulfilled the basic requirement but not a lot more. Some light roaming allowed and a set of bolt-ons provided. I have no idea if anything else is on the menu beyond "pleasant conclusion". But if you enjoy intriguing personalities it might be worth a visit.
Agreed on Estelle. Not my cup of tea. Now Genny, she is a sweet and very nice young woman. Check her ad on BP. Worth it. But be sure to treat her nice. She has a lot of friends on here.
[QUTE=Ortho313; 1660655]She hasn't seen 19 in many years. I saw her about a year ago and I would guess that she is around 40. I found her to be a little too strange for my tastes but others may disagree. Massage was OK and I was happy when I left but I would not repeat.
Ortho[/QUOTE]
Met with Estelle for a massage since she was advertising BP ad massage and not for escorting. She met with me for much less than what she advertised so that was a huge plus and she has a nice secluded area in the woods. I did not enjoy my time with her and not because of her but because I was expecting a massage. Not even a great massage. She was very sweet and talked a lot but she sort of just rubbed without any pressure or even like she knew what areas to rub. She made it sound as though she was being very deliberate but she even sat for half of it. When I flipped over she finished and everything and she seemed very into me touching (grinding etc) but I guess I expected more.
To clarify, this was the first massage I've been to since I see AMP s as way too expensive but I was thinking it would be more than it was and way less boring. I may not enjoy hjs as much as others either but for my next visit I may try to save up some money and get a Nuru massage.
New one opened today found on Backpage. [url]www.glissantxscape.com[/url]
Estelle is a sweet and sensual woman, and although she is still attractive, you can tell that she was fairly hot in her youth. Her personal website states that she, "is a professional model with over 40 years of photography and runway modeling experience". Judging by her appearance, she is in her early to mid-50's approaching 60. But still attractive. She's intelligent, charismatic and a good conversationalist, so that along with her physical appearance gives her a "total package" appeal...she is definitely GILF material. I think her age is catching up to her, both physically and mentally, which accounts for her having to sit down during a session, and not having the strength and endurance to actually perform actions where continuous focused pressure on muscle groups is necessary. I am not sure what her plan would be for her advertised 2-hour session, because I honestly don't think she has the strength and endurance for that amount of time. But being objective about it, not many people realistically do. When it comes to therapeutic touch, or especially rigorous massages, most legitimate service providers cannot provide adequate services for a 2-hour period; they just lack the endurance. I have seen some providers integrate aroma & auditory relaxation therapy into a session, which serves to take up some of the time to stretch the session for two hours. Estelle's internet reviews on other major sites have historically been mixed, leaning towards the down side of the review scale, but in all fairness I think some of the reviewers were a bit harsh."Therapeutic Touch" also denotes the session would not be as physically rigorous as a massage session would, but rather more of a sensual touch / body rub.
In all fairness, she doesn't advertise for "massages" anymore, instead it is "Therapeutic Touch, Reiki, Reflexology and Tantra Energy". She stresses taking a more holistic approach to the body's healing process and general well-being. The "Therapeutic Touch" replaced "massage" in her ads, because as of 2009 she is legally prohibited from advertising either orally or in print, on the internet or otherwise, using the terms "massage","massage therapy","massage therapist","massage and bodywork therapy","massage and bodywork therapist","LMBT", or similar terms that might indicate she practices massage and bodywork therapy. She was once a board-certified Licensed Massage & Bodywork Therapist (LMBT) , so the knowledge and skills are there, but her license was revoked by the board for what basically amounted to allegations of morals & ethics violations, which were never definitely proven, and which she never admitted to. But as part of an agreement, her license was revoked with sanctions.
I see younger girls sometimes advertising the same services, but without the knowledge and skills. They're just using the words in their ad to make their services seem more appealing, but their lack of knowledge and experience becomes readily apparent.
I think she can be perceived as being a bit "eccentric" at this point, with quirks that may or may not be readily apparent depending on a variety of factors.
Her business website offers very competitive prices on a variety of items. Some of the pricing was among the lowest I could find when I was making purchases of those types of items for playmates.
[QUOTE=Khris; 1661517]Met with Estelle for a massage since she was advertising BP ad massage and not for escorting. She met with me for much less than what she advertised so that was a huge plus and she has a nice secluded area in the woods. I did not enjoy my time with her and not because of her but because I was expecting a massage. Not even a great massage. She was very sweet and talked a lot but she sort of just rubbed without any pressure or even like she knew what areas to rub. She made it sound as though she was being very deliberate but she even sat for half of it. When I flipped over she finished and everything and she seemed very into me touching (grinding etc) but I guess I expected more.
To clarify, this was the first massage I've been to since I see AMP s as way too expensive but I was thinking it would be more than it was and way less boring. I may not enjoy hjs as much as others either but for my next visit I may try to save up some money and get a nuru massage.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Rduguy; 1660693]She's definitely unusual. Only one experience- which was not bad- but also not really good. The set up is as advertised. A house in a secluded cul-de-sac with an odd way of entering from an adjacent road. The house was clean and a room was dedicated to the massage table with certificates hanging on the wall, etc. She obviously wears wigs in the photos and may have one on when you arrive. I'd put her in her late 40's. Saying she is 19 years old is really a good reflection of the overall oddness of the experience. It is not dangerous odd- just flaky odd.
The massage itself was very lackluster. More of a weak rubbing on the back, legs, etc. If I pay for an hour, I'd like some real massage. That part was not satisfying and she gave the massage while sitting in a chair next to a real massage table. Aside from the bad ergonomics of that for her it meant there was no pressure in the massage.
She carries on an interesting conversation which is not too far from the typical "crystals and holistic healing" type conversations with regular massage providers.
The flip fulfilled the basic requirement but not a lot more. Some light roaming allowed and a set of bolt-ons provided. I have no idea if anything else is on the menu beyond "pleasant conclusion". But if you enjoy intriguing personalities it might be worth a visit.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Ortho313;1660655]She hasn't seen 19 in many years. I saw her about a year ago and I would guess that she is around 40. I found her to be a little too strange for my tastes but others may disagree. Massage was OK and I was happy when I left but I would not repeat.Ortho[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Browsebot;1662069]Estelle is a sweet and sensual woman, and although she is still attractive, you can tell that she was fairly hot in her youth. Her personal website states that she, "is a professional model with over 40 years of photography and runway modeling experience". Judging by her appearance, she is in her early to mid-50's approaching 60.[/QUOTE]I stand corrected. She was born in 1953, which puts her in the 59 age range as of right now. Although she does look good for her age. She's well-maintained and takes care of her appearance better than most women her age...she's still obviously attractive enough to attract men many years her junior.
She's a nut job. Talks to her cats as if they are humans, has more than one screw loose. Skip her and see others out there unless you like being touched by a wacko.
Wigs, saying she's 19, bad massage. If anyone else pulled this stuff you guys would be blowing them up, not sure why you are defending her.
[QUOTE=Browsebot;1662092]I stand corrected. She was born in 1953, which puts her in the 59 age range as of right now. Although she does look good for her age. She's well-maintained and takes care of her appearance better than most women her age.she's still obviously attractive enough to attract men many years her junior.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Longduckdong1; 1662225]She's a nut job. Talks to her cats as if they are humans, has more than one screw loose. Skip her and see others out there unless you like being touched by a wacko.
Wigs, saying she's 19, bad massage. If anyone else pulled this stuff you guys would be blowing them up, not sure why you are defending her.[/QUOTE]I wasn't under the impression that I was defending her. I gave you the real info about her straight. I told you about her mental status, and I also informed you about her review status on the major review site that has been there for years. Which if anyone read that would persuade you to NOT partake of her services. So if you ignored that and still chose to see her, that's on you. You TOFTT. I also stated that at her age and in her physical condition, she simply doesn't have the strength or endurance required for what a lot of people would want or expect from the session. I also told you her real age, since a lot of guys were under the impression she was in her early 40's when she will actually be 60 soon. It just emphasizes what a woman can do to have men find her alluring regardless of age. Personally I find it comical that at 59 she is still physically attractive enough to lure guys of all ages.
And yes, I would concede that she could very well be considered "a nut job", and I alluded to that in my post. Because of her age, I referred to it as being eccentric with quirks. I respect her privacy because she truly is a sweet woman, and so I won't go into details here about her mental state on this forum. What do you really expect from a 59 year-old woman with her background? Her life has not been without it's trials, and that is probably reflected in her mental state.
You can CLEARLY tell in her photos that she wears wigs. And that she's far older than what she says. If those photos fooled you, then you need to congratulate her on a job well done. She professes to do modeling consultation, and has an extensive collections of wigs, clothes, costumes, props, etc. Among younger women, it's somewhat common to see black girls wearing wigs for the "glam effect", but not so much with younger white women. But for the older women, it does become more common for white women to wear wigs. A lot of them do it for the variety of being a blonde one day, and a redhead the next. While some women wear them due to thinning hair or other issues. Personally I think her wigs are tasteful, and she has maintained an attractive appearance. It's all a matter of your preferences for style. You've expressed yours.
I've seen women of ALL ages in all professions speak to their pets as if they are human, and call them their "kids". It's basically an attachment issue that can border on a socialization disorder because you have more "quality" contact with your pets than you do humans, and you substitute the human socialization. Anyone that does that has some issues that can range from harmless to serious. It depends on the person. I do consider most of them to be "nut jobs" to some degree, but I understand it, and most of them tend to be harmless. But they will defend their pets if threatened.
The reason I didn't "blow her up" is because at one time she was a real LMBT, so she is not just some crackhead or meth-freak that posts on BP advertising a bullshit massage in order to finance her next rock fiesta. Her location is residential upscale, and it is clean and safe. She is a respectable woman. She is not trying to set you up, you will not be robbed, and there isn't a drug dealer hiding in the closet to jump out and play Jack-in-the-Box. You can go there with peace of mind that you won't experience the typical bullshit you find on BP.
I personally think that because of her age and mental state, that she should consider a different line of work, or retirement. But I understand her motivations for continuing her service. That's my two cents. But bear in mind that she DOES NOT advertise for "massages", so if you go see her thinking she can perform strenuous deep-tissue massage, then you are in error. That can't be stressed enough, because I think that is where the confusion lies with guys that use BP for massages."Therapeutic Touch"/Reiki is quite different and should not be confused for a "massage" in general terms. I think a lot of guys overlook this fact, and then are disappointed / angry with the services provided. You have to do your research and understand what is being offered or actually provided. A lot of guys hit BP and choose a service solely based on photos and a 1-minute phone conversation, and have expectations of things that weren't advertised. The only thing I can recommend is due diligence in all matters.
As far as I'm concerned, the majority of those that advertise for massage services are either untrained, unskilled or otherwise incapable to actually provide what they offer. That goes for all the spas, MP's, and BP especially. Most ads on BP are simply bullshit scams where the desire is to get the most money from you in the least amount of time with the least amount of effort. Read that twice. For a legitimate massage, find a well-reviewed provider than can meet your standards, and stick with her for consistency. Otherwise you're just handing a stranger money to touch you, and you're likely not going to be satisfied.
[QUOTE=Ncj153;1659648]I went last Monday 1/14 One older lady and a younger lady were up front. Older lady did the massage. Nice massage w older lady left very happy. YMMV I suppose.[/QUOTE]I also had a great time with the mature lady. This was my second time attending. I am guessing that made a difference.