[QUOTE=Toodw; 1074147]Is there any place that gives a TS in LA? I used to get them all the time in Rhode Island. Good times.
Thanks,
Toodw[/QUOTE]HT in BP does too.
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[QUOTE=Toodw; 1074147]Is there any place that gives a TS in LA? I used to get them all the time in Rhode Island. Good times.
Thanks,
Toodw[/QUOTE]HT in BP does too.
[QUOTE=Toodw; 1074147]Is there any place that gives a TS in LA? I used to get them all the time in Rhode Island. Good times.
Thanks,
Toodw[/QUOTE]They are actually pretty plentiful all around the L. A. And OC areas though not always advertised if you are looking for places in print or web ads. Call to find out before you go. Try not to ask upon entry as that indicates it is your first time.
IMO, if you feature TS's in your MP hobbying as I do whenever possible, as a general rule you'll have a better experience in the rub and tug places than in the FS places. Aside from the fact that the quality of the TS facilities tends to be better in r&ts, FS customers typically take 30 minute sessions and so the whole deal is rushed. HT in BP is one of the great FS places in SoCal, but if you can book an hour you're a better man than me. The actual TS facility is inferior. More like an after thought. No doubt though you can get lucky and receive a decent body scrub there if you get the right girl. But when you book an hour session at an r&t you tend to get a long and luxurious TS and you will emerge the cleanest you've ever been in your life including the first few feet of your colon, sexually aroused as no body part gets more attention from the masseuses' tender scrubbing hands than that filthy cock and balls assembly. Many guys give up a load in the table shower, and the best masseuses actually scrub you down with massaging hands.
I strongly advise that the TS be the first part of the program. Don't let them talk you into doing it last "to wash off the oil". It really sets you up feeling clean, relaxed and aroused for the massage and HE to follow. They'll bath you again in hot towels to remove oil later on or you can take a regular shower if you like before you leave.
One r&t I use regularly in the L. A. Basin is called Moon on Temple close to downtown. Not all the girls in this place are great looking and there have been reports of HE refused. But for sure all the girls are great masseuses and give excellent thorough table showers (and a couple are great looking. Make them believe you've been there before and you'll get your HE. BTW, many r&ts that have TS place giant boxer shorts on the massage table and may tell you to wear them into the TS. Never put those things on voluntarily and resist an instruction to wear them. If they absolutely make you wear them, you may be in a legit joint. Once your anus, dick and scrotum have been lovingly washed in a TS, you have passed the cop test.
Would love some more info on these TS places. Is there any near Torrance / Gardena?
[QUOTE=The Camel; 1075270]They are actually pretty plentiful all around the L. A. And OC areas though not always advertised if you are looking for places in print or web ads. Call to find out before you go. Try not to ask upon entry as that indicates it is your first time.
IMO, if you feature TS's in your MP hobbying as I do whenever possible, as a general rule you'll have a better experience in the rub and tug places than in the FS places. Aside from the fact that the quality of the TS facilities tends to be better in are&ts, FS customers typically take 30 minute sessions and so the whole deal is rushed. HT in BP is one of the great FS places in SoCal, but if you can book an hour you're a better man than me. The actual TS facility is inferior. More like an after thought. No doubt though you can get lucky and receive a decent body scrub there if you get the right girl. But when you book an hour session at an are&t you tend to get a long and luxurious TS and you will emerge the cleanest you've ever been in your life including the first few feet of your colon, sexually aroused as no body part gets more attention from the masseuses' tender scrubbing hands than that filthy cock and balls assembly. Many guys give up a load in the table shower, and the best masseuses actually scrub you down with massaging hands.
I strongly advise that the TS be the first part of the program. Don't let them talk you into doing it last "to wash off the oil". It really sets you up feeling clean, relaxed and aroused for the massage and HE to follow. They'll bath you again in hot towels to remove oil later on or you can take a regular shower if you like before you leave.
One are&t I use regularly in the L. A. Basin is called Moon on Temple close to downtown. Not all the girls in this place are great looking and there have been reports of HE refused. But for sure all the girls are great masseuses and give excellent thorough table showers (and a couple are great looking. Make them believe you've been there before and you'll get your HE. BTW, many are&ts that have TS place giant boxer shorts on the massage table and may tell you to wear them into the TS. Never put those things on voluntarily and resist an instruction to wear them. If they absolutely make you wear them, you may be in a legit joint. Once your anus, dick and scrotum have been lovingly washed in a TS, you have passed the cop test. [/QUOTE]
I decided to check out the AMP on westwood (referenced here before. It has a foot massage next door. From the outside, it looked like it would be a HE type place with its cast iron gate and door bell. In any case, I walked up to the reception. Salina was my RA. Late 30's Chinese woman with a belly. I got undressed and she came in and covered me up with a large towel. After HH, no HE. But got a really good massage, which was what I was looking for to be honest. HE would have been a nice touch, but didn't mind saving myself a few dollars. Overall, 0.5 damage.
A few weeks prior, I decided to check out HT in BP. I got there, and was surprised it was in a strip mall with kids hanging outside. I got inside, and the MMS immediately says. "long time no see! ", gives me a hug, and then welcomed me in like I was an old friend. She leads me to the room, where she tells me she will bring out a busty girl who was "20 yo". I pay her the door fee and she scurries away. In comes "sexy Diana" (her words, not mine. She did have a really nice see chest but she was also not the petite anorexic k-girls I usually like. But she was not fat by any means. Her face was ok. Maybe a 6, but I wasn't that attracted. I get a TS and before I head into the bathroom, the MMS rushes out from the side room and tells Diana to "treat me very well because I'm a good customer. " Back in the room, action begins. Good CBJ and then a few positions. I put her legs high in the air and then behind her ears and pounded her hard. She said that was her favorite position. It's my favorite as well so I finished and then cleaned up. Overall experience was decent, not great by any means. Probably won't go back just because of how far it is from me. Overall damage was $.50 if I recall correctly.
I have questions for The Camel. With this detailed post on TS, you have labeled yourself as an expert in this area. I have never had a TS because of a couple of concerns. Maybe you can clear the air for me.
1. Security. I am not comfortable leaving my wallet and other stuff in a different room than I am in. What is the procedures with a TS as to where you leave your valuables?
2. The sanitation issue. It is bad enough to sometimes deal with an ASM where they don't always change sheets in between clients. But water breeds bacteria and harbors desease. You talk about the colon and groin getting a good wash with TS. What is done to keep the act sanitary? What is actually used for the rubbing? I hope they don't use a sponge that gets reused. How do they clean the area between clients? Please clue me and other in on this.
[QUOTE=The Camel; 1075270]They are actually pretty plentiful all around the L. A. And OC areas though not always advertised if you are looking for places in print or web ads. Call to find out before you go. Try not to ask upon entry as that indicates it is your first time.
IMO, if you feature TS's in your MP hobbying as I do whenever possible, as a general rule you'll have a better experience in the rub and tug places than in the FS places. Aside from the fact that the quality of the TS facilities tends to be better in are&ts, FS customers typically take 30 minute sessions and so the whole deal is rushed. HT in BP is one of the great FS places in SoCal, but if you can book an hour you're a better man than me. The actual TS facility is inferior. More like an after thought. No doubt though you can get lucky and receive a decent body scrub there if you get the right girl. But when you book an hour session at an are&t you tend to get a long and luxurious TS and you will emerge the cleanest you've ever been in your life including the first few feet of your colon, sexually aroused as no body part gets more attention from the masseuses' tender scrubbing hands than that filthy cock and balls assembly. Many guys give up a load in the table shower, and the best masseuses actually scrub you down with massaging hands.
I strongly advise that the TS be the first part of the program. Don't let them talk you into doing it last "to wash off the oil". It really sets you up feeling clean, relaxed and aroused for the massage and HE to follow. They'll bath you again in hot towels to remove oil later on or you can take a regular shower if you like before you leave.
One are&t I use regularly in the L. A. Basin is called Moon on Temple close to downtown. Not all the girls in this place are great looking and there have been reports of HE refused. But for sure all the girls are great masseuses and give excellent thorough table showers (and a couple are great looking. Make them believe you've been there before and you'll get your HE. BTW, many are&ts that have TS place giant boxer shorts on the massage table and may tell you to wear them into the TS. Never put those things on voluntarily and resist an instruction to wear them. If they absolutely make you wear them, you may be in a legit joint. Once your anus, dick and scrotum have been lovingly washed in a TS, you have passed the cop test. [/QUOTE]
I'm assuming you meant, damage was.5 for entrance right?
[QUOTE=Hominem; 1076878]I decided to check out the AMP on westwood (referenced here before. It has a foot massage next door. From the outside, it looked like it would be a HE type place with its cast iron gate and door bell. In any case, I walked up to the reception. Salina was my RA. Late 30's Chinese woman with a belly. I got undressed and she came in and covered me up with a large towel. After HH, no HE. But got a really good massage, which was what I was looking for to be honest. HE would have been a nice touch, but didn't mind saving myself a few dollars. Overall, 0.5 damage.
A few weeks prior, I decided to check out HT in BP. I got there, and was surprised it was in a strip mall with kids hanging outside. I got inside, and the MMS immediately says. "long time no see! ", gives me a hug, and then welcomed me in like I was an old friend. She leads me to the room, where she tells me she will bring out a busty girl who was "20 yo". I pay her the door fee and she scurries away. In comes "sexy Diana" (her words, not mine. She did have a really nice see chest but she was also not the petite anorexic k-girls I usually like. But she was not fat by any means. Her face was ok. Maybe a 6, but I wasn't that attracted. I get a TS and before I head into the bathroom, the MMS rushes out from the side room and tells Diana to "treat me very well because I'm a good customer. " Back in the room, action begins. Good CBJ and then a few positions. I put her legs high in the air and then behind her ears and pounded her hard. She said that was her favorite position. It's my favorite as well so I finished and then cleaned up. Overall experience was decent, not great by any means. Probably won't go back just because of how far it is from me. Overall damage was $.50 if I recall correctly. [/QUOTE]
Where is ht in BP?
If you want the petite anorexic look at HT try to find when Kimberly is working. I like petite myself, but she is almost too anorexic looking for my tastes.
[QUOTE=Hominem; 1076878]I decided to check out the AMP on westwood (referenced here before. It has a foot massage next door. From the outside, it looked like it would be a HE type place with its cast iron gate and door bell. In any case, I walked up to the reception. Salina was my RA. Late 30's Chinese woman with a belly. I got undressed and she came in and covered me up with a large towel. After HH, no HE. But got a really good massage, which was what I was looking for to be honest. HE would have been a nice touch, but didn't mind saving myself a few dollars. Overall, 0.5 damage.
A few weeks prior, I decided to check out HT in BP. I got there, and was surprised it was in a strip mall with kids hanging outside. I got inside, and the MMS immediately says. "long time no see! ", gives me a hug, and then welcomed me in like I was an old friend. She leads me to the room, where she tells me she will bring out a busty girl who was "20 yo". I pay her the door fee and she scurries away. In comes "sexy Diana" (her words, not mine. She did have a really nice see chest but she was also not the petite anorexic k-girls I usually like. But she was not fat by any means. Her face was ok. Maybe a 6, but I wasn't that attracted. I get a TS and before I head into the bathroom, the MMS rushes out from the side room and tells Diana to "treat me very well because I'm a good customer. " Back in the room, action begins. Good CBJ and then a few positions. I put her legs high in the air and then behind her ears and pounded her hard. She said that was her favorite position. It's my favorite as well so I finished and then cleaned up. Overall experience was decent, not great by any means. Probably won't go back just because of how far it is from me. Overall damage was $.50 if I recall correctly. [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Olderguy10; 1077042]I have questions for The Camel. With this detailed post on TS, you have labeled yourself as an expert in this area. I have never had a TS because of a couple of concerns. Maybe you can clear the air for me.
1. Security. I am not comfortable leaving my wallet and other stuff in a different room than I am in. What is the procedures with a TS as to where you leave your valuables?
2. The sanitation issue. It is bad enough to sometimes deal with an ASM where they don't always change sheets in between clients. But water breeds bacteria and harbors desease. You talk about the colon and groin getting a good wash with TS. What is done to keep the act sanitary? What is actually used for the rubbing? I hope they don't use a sponge that gets reused. How do they clean the area between clients? Please clue me and other in on this. [/QUOTE]I'm not that much of an expert to answer your questions with authority. I've been mongering for 15 years and I find myself often going on faith when the flesh is weak. As you mentioned, the MP setting offers health concerns not relating to STDs when there is no TS. Anyplace I've been a regular I am confident that my faith is redeemed. I see the girls working hard to sanitize the area before and after a TS just as they do the massage room. Other places I've been, and more often the FS places than the rub and tug places, the TS operation has on occasion seemed shoddy, but not always.
The girls don't use sponges. Most often they use their bare hands for applying body shampoo and scrubbing. Sometimes a wash rag which is of course freshly laundered. Some use something like latex gloves with exfoliating spikes that I am guessing are disposable. Bottom line is I've never been aware of suffering any problem from being a customer of MPs and TS's whenever possible.
I also go on faith when it comes to valuables. They are right there to take when I'm in a TS or regular shower if someone wants to go for it. Nothing has ever happened and my faith is strong in people who are employed at MPs not to rob me if I step out of the room. However, a few of the better "spa" type MPs including the one I'm going to recommend below in response to another post, do have actual locker rooms. They give you a locker and a key and you can store your clothes and valuables accordingly.
[QUOTE=Fiasco26;1075985]Would love some more info on these TS places. Is there any near Torrance / Gardena?[/QUOTE]Try "Natural Spa" at the intersection of Torrance and Hawthorne Blvds. It is a stand alone building planted in a nice mini-mall. This place is as nice as it gets. Elegant would describe it overall. What comes with that is high cost the last time I was there which is more than 1 year. That is if you want to use facilities like table shower. In other places TS is included, here you pay a healthy extra bite to get a TS. The other thing that comes with trying such a nice place is that it is basically legit. A friend on this site reported that pretty much all the reviews on the pay sites say there is no HE. But that was not my experience. I was there to see my no.1 at the time who I had seen regularly in a closed down place in Hollywood. Her name is Tina. She certainly "grandfathered" me and continued without any question to provide HE and also for a few buddies who I recommended her to. So maybe I was just fortunate to be able to leverage a history with the girl. But I also got HE from another masseuse who originally refused. I just urged her on in a nice way and had already established a nice rapport, and she went for it and told me not to tell anybody! So if any of you guys want to try it out, ask for Tina and tell her you were told about her by a regular customer she had when she worked at Vine and Sunset.
[QUOTE=Olderguy10; 1077042]I have questions for The Camel. With this detailed post on TS, you have labeled yourself as an expert in this area. I have never had a TS because of a couple of concerns. Maybe you can clear the air for me.
1. Security. I am not comfortable leaving my wallet and other stuff in a different room than I am in. What is the procedures with a TS as to where you leave your valuables?
2. The sanitation issue. It is bad enough to sometimes deal with an ASM where they don't always change sheets in between clients. But water breeds bacteria and harbors desease. You talk about the colon and groin getting a good wash with TS. What is done to keep the act sanitary? What is actually used for the rubbing? I hope they don't use a sponge that gets reused. How do they clean the area between clients? Please clue me and other in on this. [/QUOTE]I've been doing this for past 10 years, most of it on the East Coast where a TS is the norm. Like Camel said, for the most part, the girl use their bare hands. Other times, the girls use one of those exfoliating sponges (forget what they are called. When I see them soaping that up, I tell them not to use it. The actual table itself is actually not that clean. The girls usually water it down with warm water before you get on it, but that's about it. Maybe they wash it down at the end of the night with soap, but they definitely don't do that in between customers.
I've personally never had any issues with leaving my personals in the other room. Maybe I'm too trustworthy. There's always a rumor that MMS checks your pockets to see if you are LE while you are in the TS. I've purposely placed my wallet in such a way in my pocket to know if someone would have moved it while I was away, but it has never been touched. In addition, I've never had anything stolen from me at an AMP. But then again, I don't have a LE look to me.
[QUOTE=Hominem; 1077501]I've been doing this for past 10 years, most of it on the East Coast where a TS is the norm. Like Camel said, for the most part, the girl use their bare hands. Other times, the girls use one of those exfoliating sponges (forget what they are called. When I see them soaping that up, I tell them not to use it. The actual table itself is actually not that clean. The girls usually water it down with warm water before you get on it, but that's about it. Maybe they wash it down at the end of the night with soap, but they definitely don't do that in between customers.
I've personally never had any issues with leaving my personals in the other room. Maybe I'm too trustworthy. There's always a rumor that MMS checks your pockets to see if you are LE while you are in the TS. I've purposely placed my wallet in such a way in my pocket to know if someone would have moved it while I was away, but it has never been touched. In addition, I've never had anything stolen from me at an AMP. But then again, I don't have a LE look to me. [/QUOTE]Those in-room TS arrangements are inferior by far to what most of the SoCal places have. A dedicated TS chamber. If they are in room they must necessarily be basins. More like a bath since there's no place to sweep the dirty water. In the "chambers" they are open ended and open sided slabs in rooms that resemble saunas. They are cleaned thoroughly before and after with the water draining from the floor beneath slatted wood platforms (sauna like) that you will stand on. The slabs are cleaned and fresh towels laid on top of them.
Not that I avoid the less hygienic basin like TSs when I encounter them inside massage rooms. One of my fav places is the infamous Animal Clinic in the OC. They have that kind of in-room setup. The crazy Viet attendants get the job done of getting you very clean. Clean enough so they can immediately start exploring the inside of your asscheeks with their mouths and tongues once you get out of the TS. One of my favs starts BBBJ while I'm in that basin soaking wet. Really not too bad of a thing.
Awesome information, thanks so much CAMEL!
So with all that being said, whats the damage? I understand it depends on the the customers taste, but lets say I wanted the works (whether that be FS or just a HE) plus a TS.
Thanks Again!
"Try "Natural Spa" at the intersection of Torrance and Hawthorne Blvds. It is a stand alone building planted in a nice mini-mall. This place is as nice as it gets. Elegant would describe it overall. What comes with that is high cost the last time I was there which is more than 1 year. That is if you want to use facilities like table shower. In other places TS is included, here you pay a healthy extra bite to get a TS. The other thing that comes with trying such a nice place is that it is basically legit. A friend on this site reported that pretty much all the reviews on the pay sites say there is no HE. But that was not my experience. I was there to see my no.1 at the time who I had seen regularly in a closed down place in Hollywood. Her name is Tina. She certainly "grandfathered" me and continued without any question to provide HE and also for a few buddies who I recommended her to. So maybe I was just fortunate to be able to leverage a history with the girl. But I also got HE from another masseuse who originally refused. I just urged her on in a nice way and had already established a nice rapport, and she went for it and told me not to tell anybody! So if any of you guys want to try it out, ask for Tina and tell her you were told about her by a regular customer she had when she worked at Vine and Sunset
[QUOTE=Fiasco26; 1077711]Awesome information, thanks so much CAMEL!
So with all that being said, whats the damage? I understand it depends on the the customers taste, but lets say I wanted the works (whether that be FS or just a HE) plus a TS.
Thanks Again!
[/QUOTE]At Natural the damage is steeper than your normal mamason and papason rub and tug. .8 for an hour for TS plus choice of Shiatsu or Swedish Massage; .7 if you forego the TS. Most rub and tugs are more like.5 to.6 for the hour and they don't add on for TS. But like any other place, standard tipping for HE would be.4. That is if you can get HE here. You won't get anything more than HJ at this place and that isn't particularly likely. Check-out their website and you'll see why they charge more and aim to be legit. The pics accurately represent the elegance of the place. Maybe call ahead and see if Tina is there since she's your best shot to make you shoot.
Here's the link: [url]http://www.torrancenaturalspa.com/[/url]
Gotcha! Thanks for the info. I'll have to call up the place and do just what you said!
[QUOTE=The Camel; 1077989]At Natural the damage is steeper than your normal mamason and papason rub and tug. .8 for an hour for TS plus choice of Shiatsu or Swedish Massage; .7 if you forego the TS. Most rub and tugs are more like.5 to.6 for the hour and they don't add on for TS. But like any other place, standard tipping for HE would be.4. That is if you can get HE here. You won't get anything more than HJ at this place and that isn't particularly likely. Check-out their website and you'll see why they charge more and aim to be legit. The pics accurately represent the elegance of the place. Maybe call ahead and see if Tina is there since she's your best shot to make you shoot.
Here's the link: [url]http://www.torrancenaturalspa.com/[/url][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=The Camel; 1077643]Those in-room TS arrangements are inferior by far to what most of the SoCal places have. A dedicated TS chamber. If they are in room they must necessarily be basins. More like a bath since there's no place to sweep the dirty water. In the "chambers" they are open ended and open sided slabs in rooms that resemble saunas. They are cleaned thoroughly before and after with the water draining from the floor beneath slatted wood platforms (sauna like) that you will stand on. The slabs are cleaned and fresh towels laid on top of them.
Not that I avoid the less hygienic basin like TSs when I encounter them inside massage rooms. One of my fav places is the infamous Animal Clinic in the OC. They have that kind of in-room setup. The crazy Viet attendants get the job done of getting you very clean. Clean enough so they can immediately start exploring the inside of your asscheeks with their mouths and tongues once you get out of the TS. One of my favs starts BBBJ while I'm in that basin soaking wet. Really not too bad of a thing. [/QUOTE]Camel man, please PM the info on your fav "animal clinic" in OC. Or shine some light as to what forum I can do my digging. Thanks man!