Approaching the Sensitive Topic of Extras and What to Pay for Them
[QUOTE=Vitrea; 1154496]This scenario assumes that they do not know you and this is your first time at a place.
#1) Ask if they have a table shower (even if you know that they don't have)
#2) No table shower, ask if they have a regular shower. If they do, take one.
#3) Lay down on the table fresh out of the shower ready for a nice butt massage.
If you are at a professional place with no extras you will be offered a towel or thrown out. At this point they know you are not LE. They either give extras or not and most guys are not going to be able to charm someone into giving extras if they are not going to. No "approach" needed. Do not bring up the issue of "tip" and if she brings up, be reasonable. Don't be cheap or overly generous. Be fair. [/QUOTE]I'm not sure this really addresses the original question. It does go a long way, but sort of stops short. So here it is guys. Take notes. The towel itself does go a long way of establishing trust or the lack thereof.
If a towel or other draping is offered and you reject it, it would seem to indicate that you are neither LE nor some other arm of "the establishment" seeking to catch the "establishment" in a moment when they have violated some code or other so their freedom or license can be stripped of them or so they can be fined in some way.
If the "establishment" does not insist that you keep covered, that can be taken by you as a sign that they might be open to "extras." Therefore, the next move, once again, is yours. During the first part of the massage, when the masseuse gets around to massaging your inner thighs or your arse, I always like to spread my legs wider so as to put the least amount of obstacle in her way of getting around to touching my genitials. Often this will do the trick. If not, then when the masseuse is in a convenient position, I will move play along by placing one of my hands on her inner thighs or on her arse. This outgt soon to prove to her (if she needs further proof at this point) that I am truly not LE. And in any case, since I have made the first tentative move away from what would be considered a "normal massage", she should know that she has nothing to fear from touching me in any of my erogenous areas. So no it's a game of further tit for tat. Eventually I am going to try to slip a hand up onder her chamise, then under her bra, or under her short shorts, if that is what she is wearing, or down her pants.
So by now both of us will know what the game is. No in some locales or markets, I will not need to play such games. The provider should have proven to herself by now what and who I am. Many providers whose first time around the circuit it is not, will often simply disrobe. For others it may take some prodding by me. A tug downward of the pajama bottoms or thong if they are so attired should do the trick. At that point, many will just know they are safe and will do what comes next without ever resorting to negotiations over money. These women often behave in this way because in some jurisdictions, to begin haggling over remunerations will immediately land them in jail, although that is stupid. Having myself instigated the negotiations can hardly be considered blameless in the transaction. Nevertheless that is how it is done in some juristictions. So these women would then just do whatever seemed allowable to them by me, the customer.
In such cases, they are relying on me to pay whatever I know the going rate is in that area for that act. If I am abstemious, then next time they will either see me again and do the same thing for the same (presumable) remuneration, or they will not see me at al. Believe me, these gals have good memories.
But in some jurisdictions, they might negotiate before going further. Either way, this is where your knowledge gained her comes in. You know what is normal, traditional, acceptable. For instance, if you know that in your market some misguided blokes pay $200 + house fee for full service, than that is what you should pay or negotiate for. Don't try to screw the girl by giving $50 for what is worth $100 or by negotiation for $50. Just give her what she is due and don't embarrass either of yourselves.
So, Two Dogs Fucking, any othe questions. .
LexLuther
Has anyone tried the Motel VI?
When you call this new AMP in midtown the mamasan that answered didn't sound asian to me. But she quickly recovered and went over the services with me over the phone. One hr =.8 but you are expected to tip, she mentioned that I would have discuss this with the girl. Just wondering if anyone has tried this new provider from the BP.
Still looking.
Skeeter
Looking for LASER information
Hello.
Not sure if I'm doing this right. Just want to get the right information before I choose to go to massage parlor.
Saw some other thread and some had LASER information regarding the talent.
Anybody can help.
More information will probably help me with decision of where to go.
Anybody that could help.
Thank you