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[QUOTE=Dave 151]In my experience if I see them on backpage offering FBSM under the escort sessions they do full service or BJ. If they are doing it under the rub down section, they do nothing but Russian or HJ release. IMHO[/QUOTE]Dave,
A genuine thanks. That is what I was wondering. Why is FBSM being advertised under the escort section if there is nothing like a HJ, BJ, or FS being offered.
Again, I would hate to be on the table expecting something to happen (based on things I had read) only to find that applies in other situations but not then.
To me, it's a bit like those who advertise 100% GFE but don't kiss. Now I clarify before booking as their definition of GFE is not my GFE. Clear expectations lead to better experiences for both sides in my opinion.
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Massage
Come see me. I KNOW you will have a great time and be happy when the session ends. lol...oh and I wasn't saying to "waste" your money on somthing you don't want. Alot of girls prolly offer more but may be a lil nervous about putting everything out there until they know you. Just my opinion though. And that's a pretty good way to look at it too about saying that if under the escort section maybe they do offer more but just dont want to say it like some other girls do. Everyone has their own ways of advertising and doing their thing I guess. Good luck though on what you choose to do. Hope it works out for ya.
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200
Oh, and I also question that price quote. LOL. 2 for a massage sounds like a lot to me too, I get anywhere from. 8 to 1 for an hour session. I'm happy with that donation but everyone does their own thing and if it works for the girls then more power to them. LOL
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Just Ask
If you have some specific questions about a post, you might consider sending a PM to the orginial poster asking for more info.
Chica
[QUOTE=Prettycocky]Ok, so please excuse my ignorance here. I really am quite curious about the whole "sensual massage". So exactly what does happen?
From what I can tell, the guy is naked and the girl is just rubbing you all over. I also get that in most cases there is no intercourse (even a BJ), but is there a happy ending via HJ?
I know that everyone has their own thing, but I can get a licensed deep tissue massage for 1/3 the price. And if I wanted a woman rubbing herself all over me without sex, I'd have stayed with my exgirlfriend.
I'm intrigued and am just wondering what the big appeal is and what the $$ is purchasing.[/QUOTE]
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Therealvalerie
Is she FS, happy ending or just a massage.
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The Answer
[QUOTE=Prettycocky]Clear expectations lead to better experiences for both sides in my opinion.[/QUOTE]Yes. Indeed. Without a doubt.
That's really why I suggested that you simply go spend time with at least three different providers and get a "feel" for how these things work. We can answer questions all day long on here, but those specific answers may not apply when you find yourself in a specific situation with a particular provider.
So, your best bet is to just jump in the pool, talk with the provider as much as you can up front without the conversation getting spooky/scary and without raising Uncle Leo-related concerns, and then take it from there.communication is the key, but it's communication with a specific provider. Not with us. We won't be in the room with ya!
Val, who has posted here, is a real sweetie with a great attitude. Try seeing her, try going to an AMP, and then try the Cordova lady who was mentioned in the post that started your questioning (about whether it is worth $$ or not). All three of those experiences that I just listed out for you will be very different, will be lots of fun, and will expand your vocabulary and world view in a most pleasant manner.
Sensual massage is not a commodity product that comes off an assembly line, in my own experience. When taken together with your own likes/dislikes, experience, and attitude, each situation, each setting, each provider adds to the variety, enjoyability, and novelty of the experience. That's why I simply suggested that you go try it yourself. Try it and you'll be glad you did!
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[QUOTE=Prettycocky]Why is FBSM being advertised under the escort section if there is nothing like a HJ, BJ, or FS being offered.
Again, I would hate to be on the table expecting something to happen (based on things I had read) only to find that applies in other situations but not then.
To me, it's a bit like those who advertise 100% GFE but don't kiss. Now I clarify before booking as their definition of GFE is not my GFE. Clear expectations lead to better experiences for both sides in my opinion.[/QUOTE]This is always a problem, because the providers often try to blur the lines to get you interested. I had this arguement long ago with messagewoman when she originally posted in the escort section. It resulted in a minor flame war, and I was just making the same point that you are. Providers need to specify what they will not do, or what is not included. Same thing with GFE... problem remains with the providers. Being a non-kissing, cold-fish fuck may be the type of "Girlfriend" they really are, so they may think that they are being GFE when the guys have a whole different standard for GFE.
If you want GFE, find sweetmelissa. If you want a fully satisfying massage, try valerie.
I'm not saying the others are bad, just that these two are as advertised.
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.02 worth
[QUOTE=Prettycocky]Ok, so please excuse my ignorance here. I really am quite curious about the whole "sensual massage". So exactly what does happen?
From what I can tell, the guy is naked and the girl is just rubbing you all over. I also get that in most cases there is no intercourse (even a BJ), but is there a happy ending via HJ?
I know that everyone has their own thing, but I can get a licensed deep tissue massage for 1/3 the price. And if I wanted a woman rubbing herself all over me without sex, I'd have stayed with my exgirlfriend.
I'm intrigued and am just wondering what the big appeal is and what the $$ is purchasing.[/QUOTE]
$$ is for time. The appeal is just something different. It's a tease. A guessing of what you might get or might not get. Kind of like fishing or the strip club. The point is your never sure where it might lead. Like you don't have to kiss all the girls. You can leave some to wonder about.
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Thanks
Thanks fellows for the compliments. I really enjoy what I do so I'm always as pleasant and polite so it's an enjoyable session all together.
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Tokyo Spa
There is still fun to be had at Tokyo Spa. I have been there half a dozen times over the past 3 months. The thing I don't like is that you don't get to choose, and you never know who you will get. I have liked some of the ladies there a lot more than others. Some have a warmer/friendlier attitude and better massage skills. I'm just now starting to learn some of their names, but I haven't had the balls to ask if I can see a specific girl yet. Maybe I should. If you are thinking of visiting, don't ask for any extras. All fun dreams need to be requested in non verbal ways. If you ask for an HE they are very likely to tell you no.
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[QUOTE=Willro]There is still fun to be had at Tokyo Spa. I have been there half a dozen times over the past 3 months. The thing I don't like is that you don't get to choose, and you never know who you will get. I have liked some of the ladies there a lot more than others. Some have a warmer/friendlier attitude and better massage skills. I'm just now starting to learn some of their names, but I haven't had the balls to ask if I can see a specific girl yet. Maybe I should. If you are thinking of visiting, don't ask for any extras. All fun dreams need to be requested in non verbal ways. If you ask for an HE they are very likely to tell you no.[/QUOTE]
I haven't been in a year or so, but I was always able to ask the mamasan for a specific girl. Usually they are more than willing to accommodate you.
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Private Providers
Thank you all for these forums they are a real help to me. I have been reading them for years, but haven't posted in a while.
I am a regular at Tokoyo's. Been going for 10 years, even before they moved to this location. It used to be a little more fun there, but the ladies would beg for money every time. Now it is more cold I would say, but no upselling, just a decent massage with happy ending and no talk of money.
I miss having the choice of Yoko's, bad massage, but you never knew what was on the menu.
Tried a lasting impression and magic hands years ago, but no extras.
My question for the group is how do you book a private provider or an escort when they want you to call them when you get close? I am just worried about the caller id. How do you get around that or are you not worried?
Also, different forum, but I went to a couple of strip clubs recently Christies and the Pony. What do you do if the girl who is not your 1st or 2nd choice sits next to you? I mean how can you get her away and get a VIP from the one you want without being a jerk?
Thanks
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*67 xxx-xxxx
My question for the group is how do you book a private provider or an escort when they want you to call them when you get close? I am just worried about the caller id. How do you get around that or are you not worried?
Thanks[/QUOTE]*67 xxx-xxxx will block your number.
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Strip Clubs
[QUOTE=memphis5]Thank you all for these forums they are a real help to me. I have been reading them for years, but haven't posted in a while.
I am a regular at Tokoyo's. Been going for 10 years, even before they moved to this location. It used to be a little more fun there, but the ladies would beg for money every time. Now it is more cold I would say, but no upselling, just a decent massage with happy ending and no talk of money.
I miss having the choice of Yoko's, bad massage, but you never knew what was on the menu.
Tried a lasting impression and magic hands years ago, but no extras.
My question for the group is how do you book a private provider or an escort when they want you to call them when you get close? I am just worried about the caller id. How do you get around that or are you not worried?
Also, different forum, but I went to a couple of strip clubs recently Christies and the Pony. What do you do if the girl who is not your 1st or 2nd choice sits next to you? I mean how can you get her away and get a VIP from the one you want without being a jerk?
Thanks[/QUOTE]
Just tell the girl sitting next to you you are waiting on someone or Say you are a waiting on another dancer who asked you to come see her there. They usally understand and move on , sometimes it works for your benifit too when they ask who and you point her out and she goes and gets her for you.
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[QUOTE=memphis5]My question for the group is how do you book a private provider or an escort when they want you to call them when you get close? I am just worried about the caller id. How do you get around that or are you not worried?[/QUOTE]Dude,
You MUST get a hobby phone. Go buy a cheap pay as you go phone. You can get one for less than $25. Your phone number will not be linked to your name in any way. This keeps you safe from the possibility of a providers phone that might fall into the hands of Leo, and it protects you from the possibility of encountering a psycho provider or pimp that might try to blackmail money from you later by looking you up in your "real life" and threatening to cause problems for you with an SO or employer.