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If this continues, I'll be getting out of this pool.

This chick wanted $200 for the first date, just to get to know each other. Thereafter, with intimacy, it would be $500 per meet. I politely told her she was out of my league and wished her luck. Her snarky answer was, "Good luck getting herpes and AIDS. " WTF? She's the one peddling her ass around town!

[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/89cb34d3-2a25-4ecc-a60f-161183d6de71[/URL]

This one also wanted $200 for the first meet, but we would only make out and be a little affectionate. For the FS dates thereafter, she would be okay with $200 (with the promise of once / week--Ha! I told her $200 just to meet was absurd.

[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/2096356b-d686-4ae8-850b-f0359c962dc3[/URL]

This one is beautiful, but the tats scare me. She claims she wants chemistry before fucking, but we didn't get together right away and now she's AWOL. Nuts!

[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/14b05e49-3d96-4093-b4cb-8a5b77438b00[/URL]

This one is a pro working out of Point Loma. $250 for an hour. Ask to see more pix. She's a Latino fox!

[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/8d695aaf-254a-4f63-8d60-09254088fc36[/URL]

This one also went AWOL after a meeting that didn't happen and couldn't get rescheduled.

[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/7a9947b4-d0e9-449b-ab1b-a1bde2152683[/URL]

I don't understand these ladies, but then, there's no understanding craziness!

Hope you have better luck than I've had recently!

[QUOTE=TennisNut;3836322]If this continues, I'll be getting out of this pool.

This one also went AWOL after a meeting that didn't happen and couldn't get rescheduled.

[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/7a9947b4-d0e9-449b-ab1b-a1bde2152683[/URL]

I don't understand these ladies, but then, there's no understanding craziness!

Hope you have better luck than I've had recently![/QUOTE]You're obviously experienced on USA, perhaps you are just choosing the wrong girls on SA. I don't know exactly how I avoid them from their profile, but I don't have girls doing this shit to me. I have posted before how short-sighted it is to negotiate sugar by electronic communication. In-person is the only way. If you can't get them to M&G without $, they are doing you a favor by showing their cards so early. Move on, there are only a zillion girls on there. IK, I have gotten a Jones for a particular girl on the site before too, and after they ignore my messages a few times, I get over it and realize they never would see me.

Asking 800.

[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/2bad66ee-ed56-4bb5-8993-efb94c16f702[/URL]

This one wanted $500. I offered $250 and she said, "For that, can we just do head. Sorry to be so transactional. " Transactional, what, as opposed to a REAL relationship! Give me a break. I told her no. She's done with me.

[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/7a9947b4-d0e9-449b-ab1b-a1bde2152683[/URL]

The following sent a ton of pictures, some of which are attached. She is hot, but also a pro asking $500. I balked and she came down to $400, but wouldn't go lower. I passed.

[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/9440f5ae-f5e0-4d82-9080-20d41ac9dc9c[/URL]

Tijuana is looking awfully good right about now.

[QUOTE=TennisNut;3837354]This one wanted $500. I offered $250 and she said, "For that, can we just do head. Sorry to be so transactional. " Transactional, what, as opposed to a REAL relationship! Give me a break. I told her no. She's done with me.

[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/7a9947b4-d0e9-449b-ab1b-a1bde2152683[/URL]

The following sent a ton of pictures, some of which are attached. She is hot, but also a pro asking $500. I balked and she came down to $400, but wouldn't go lower. I passed.

[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/9440f5ae-f5e0-4d82-9080-20d41ac9dc9c[/URL]

Tijuana is looking awfully good right about now.[/QUOTE]Hey brother,

Thanks for your posts. I also been having some issues with these girls. I never agree to pay for a meet and greet and always try to keep them low.

I haven't had luck so far but is part of the game. Happy hunting. Stay safe.

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;3837120]You're obviously experienced on USA, perhaps you are just choosing the wrong girls on SA. I don't know exactly how I avoid them from their profile, but I don't have girls doing this shit to me. I have posted before how short-sighted it is to negotiate sugar by electronic communication. In-person is the only way. If you can't get them to M&G without $, they are doing you a favor by showing their cards so early. Move on, there are only a zillion girls on there. IK, I have gotten a Jones for a particular girl on the site before too, and after they ignore my messages a few times, I get over it and realize they never would see me.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the advice / reminder. It seems those who play hard to get are not worth getting. There are so many scenarios and approaches, but in the final analysis wasting time is self-defeating. I don't think I've ever jumped through a lot of hoops and had it work out. I like to make exceptions or be flexible with the really scrumptious ones, but that's just more neuroses--doing the same thing over and over but expecting different outcomes.

Now, perhaps, I understand why some guys are really blunt in their communications with these girls, some go as far as being crude and explicit. It saves time. The girls hate it, but those who don't hate it will be ready for action and won't jerk you around. Granted, they may be pros, but at the end of the day most of these girls are pros. I had one say she prefers to think of men as being "financially dominant", that way she doesn't think of herself as a ho. Hey, whatever gets you through the night.

Pursing the holy grail of SA--a young, nonpro who just needs some money and hasn't done this before--is a challenge, but should not be taken seriously. Like dating, they are choosing us, not visa-versa. If we all looked like Brad Pitt or George Clooney, life would be different (better).

Enough of this. I've had my coffee and, being a writer, I like a captive audience, but I'll spare you guys. Keep sharing your stories!

[QUOTE=TennisNut;3837965]Thanks for the advice / reminder. It seems those who play hard to get are not worth getting. There are so many scenarios and approaches, but in the final analysis wasting time is self-defeating. I don't think I've ever jumped through a lot of hoops and had it work out. I like to make exceptions or be flexible with the really scrumptious ones, but that's just more neuroses--doing the same thing over and over but expecting different outcomes.

Now, perhaps, I understand why some guys are really blunt in their communications with these girls, some go as far as being crude and explicit. It saves time. The girls hate it, but those who don't hate it will be ready for action and won't jerk you around. Granted, they may be pros, but at the end of the day most of these girls are pros. I had one say she prefers to think of men as being "financially dominant", that way she doesn't think of herself as a ho. Hey, whatever gets you through the night.

Pursing the holy grail of SA--a young, nonpro who just needs some money and hasn't done this before--is a challenge, but should not be taken seriously. Like dating, they are choosing us, not visa-versa. If we all looked like Brad Pitt or George Clooney, life would be different (better).

Enough of this. I've had my coffee and, being a writer, I like a captive audience, but I'll spare you guys. Keep sharing your stories![/QUOTE]Don't sell yourself short. I don't agree that the holy grail should not be taken seriously. I have had about 15 girls in the 2+ years I have been on SA. Most of those have been ongoing relationships. Those that weren't were ones where I learned the girl was a pro. Most of my ex-es aren't still on the site after ending our arrangements. They were real relationships, just limited in time / scope. That's what I am looking for on SA. My bowl buddy BikeRider likes to say everyone gets the bowl they are looking for.

I currently have a monthly with a stunning skinny model type for $1 K. She's 36, I am in my 60's. There really are some girls who prefer older men, where else could they get that itch scratched without violating social norms than SA? I have had teenagers /20 YO coeds who *loved* older, mostly b / c they are submissive. That is one thing I definitely look for, b / c I know those girls seriously are interested in guys like me.

I have never met / contacted her. However, with her current picture, it went by a different handle: Used to be "Pretty Zandy 93. " She said she worked with sick teens in Chula Vista, we almost meet up, which was 8 months ago.

There must be some guys out there who are paying for the M&G, because I am seeing that all the time now too. I buy coffees / lunches & sometimes dinners. However, I have never paid for the initial M&G. Those people are feeding this trend.

Hey guys,

I just joined and have been trying to read and catch up on all the posts. Awesome info guys! So I joined SA and hit up a hot 18 yo blond and she wants me to PayPal her instead of the old fashion way. What do you guys think? I don't like leaving evidence.

Been messaging this young hottie, thought we were moving in the right direction to meet today.

Then she says she wants me to paypal her first then she'll come right over. Of course, why not! Nothing to worry about right? LOL.

[URL]https://seekingarrangement.com/member/e0adcf7a-5931-4045-8499-161760f9a8ea[/URL]

Looks like the Fun with Monica account is now a completely different person again.

[QUOTE=Waxxon;3838465]Been messaging this young hottie, thought we were moving in the right direction to meet today.

Then she says she wants me to paypal her first then she'll come right over. Of course, why not! Nothing to worry about right? LOL.

[URL]https://seekingarrangement.com/member/e0adcf7a-5931-4045-8499-161760f9a8ea[/URL][/QUOTE]Haha, I was messaging her also and she said she only takes PayPal because she was taken advantage of before. Whatever that means. She says she needs money to help her mom and whatever I want to help out with will be okay.

[QUOTE=KMatthews521;3838467]Looks like the Fun with Monica account is now a completely different person again.[/QUOTE]Good recall by King baby.

I remember messaging this "new" Monica a year or more ago, she was in Chula Vista and wanted me to send her money so she could get a ride over to my place. Never happened.

[QUOTE=OcasianBoy;3838458]Hey guys,

I just joined and have been trying to read and catch up on all the posts. Awesome info guys! So I joined SA and hit up a hot 18 yo blond and she wants me to PayPal her instead of the old fashion way. What do you guys think? I don't like leaving evidence.[/QUOTE]A short version: Never and move on.