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[QUOTE=Jjbee62;2555516]I'm really not surprised that things did not turn out to your satisfaction. If you had taken a little more time to read the forum, you would have found that Indy doesn't stack up well against other places. The expected donation for anything beyond a standard finish is high and the women working at the AMPs are older. Also, many fail to provide a very good massage.
Here's some advice that might help for future travel:
Don't expect any place to measure up to your favorite place. Each place is different. If you expect to always find the perfect experience, you will always be disappointed.
RTFF. More than one review mentions the massage at this location is not the best.
Avoid WBS (Whiney ***** Syndrome). This is found extensively in reviews on every site. When something happens, bad service at a restaurant, order not correct, something wrong with hotel room, or price for services (which has been stated several times in this thread) more than you expect, suddenly everything is the worst ever.
I see reviews like this all the time, when researching hotels and restaurants and I always ignore them, unless there are several very bad reviews. They tend to be a passive aggressive attack in response to what should have been a minor disappointment, in this case the price.
What I try to do, is start from the beginning, which you did, to a point. Location good, room nice, but no mention of the masseuse. Her appearance is only mentioned after you find out the price is more than you are willing to pay and at that point everything about her is awful. From that point on, everything turns to crap. She then goes above and beyond, or behind, the standard service and that also isn't to your satisfaction. According to your review, you decided to leave after 30 minutes instead of finishing the hour and refuse the standard tip because, by your own choice, you didn't get the full hour.
I'm just having trouble taking this seriously with the rookie mistakes, such as being upset by the price when the price is mentioned elsewhere in the forum and complaining about the quality of the massage, also mentioned previously in the forum.[/QUOTE]Some excellent points on how reviews of anything get colored by other factors and how to decipher the important and useful information. I see this all the time with restaurants and hotels. Service was shitty because they weren't as attentive as my butler, or my personal nut sack washer.
The problem with criticising him too much is that Indy IS way down the list on AMP quality. So yes, it does generally suck here compared to this particular offering elsewhere. So if you loved the lobster in Maine, sure don't order it in Cheyenne, but don't expect me to order your shitty lobster-substitute crawfish boil and just shut up and be happy about it. It's why I don't bother with Indy AMPs no matter what good experiences are posted about.
Indy is not great for hobbying, so locate what is good and enjoy that. The AMP's are not good here. You may eek out a good experience, or your standards may not know the difference. That's perfectly OK. But it's not actually good.
P.S. A business model suggests certain things. To run an AMP and be a huge pain to all the horny guys that walk in your door and not provide anything is stealing just like a cash and dash.
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A day of fishing
I don't usually go to the NW side of our great city but I had the occasion to be at my north office, so I stopped in under the sea. Opted for the 4 hand HHR, paid the extra $10 for the TS and off we went. I will not belabor what has already been talked about, but will only say WOW!! Ice and Angel are not only cute but built for speed. I opted for a post TS so I didn't feel slick at work and it was just as amazing. I will probably have to go back for an hour later. I tipped. 60 and usually the girl picks it up and says "Thank you" but not Ice, she counted it out loud then looked at me like she wanted more. I just smiled and told her next time I would bring more. Hell I had to have some money to eat on. BTW I was their first customer at 1145.
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The problem with criticising him too much is that Indy IS way down the list on AMP quality. So yes, it does generally suck here compared to this particular offering elsewhere. So if you loved the lobster in Maine, sure don't order it in Cheyenne, but don't expect me to order your shitty lobster-substitute crawfish boil and just shut up and be happy about it. It's why I don't bother with Indy AMPs no matter what good experiences are posted about.
Indy is not great for hobbying, so locate what is good and enjoy that. The AMP's are not good here. You may eek out a good experience, or your standards may not know the difference. That's perfectly OK. But it's not actually good.
P.S. A business model suggests certain things. To run an AMP and be a huge pain to all the horny guys that walk in your door and not provide anything is stealing just like a cash and dash.[/QUOTE]If, just a few weeks ago, another visitor hadn't pointed out the relative quality of Indy AMPs, I'd have let it slide. However, as a group we are constantly advising the new posters to do their research. Once we become seniors are we no longer obligated to read the forum? The same is true about the pricing. If you know going in, the price is too much, don't go.
In defense of the Indy AMPs, I've never had one be a huge pain. I've had a place that insisted on self service and woman was much older than I prefer (Morning Sun), a place where the woman was unappealing to me in every way and shorted me on time (Soho), a place where the massage was very mechanical, but the woman was hot (Ariel) and a place with no extras and a firm massage that left me bruised (Broadripple). But every place has been polite, except maybe Soho, and I've at least felt I got my $60 worth. Maybe I've been lucky or maybe it's my attitude and always having a smile, but my experiences here have been decent.
I don't compare local to Toronto, where standard finish is always included in the price and you can always find an 8, 9 or 10. As you said, find what works for you and stick with it.
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[QUOTE=Jjbee62;2555877]If, just a few weeks ago, another visitor hadn't pointed out the relative quality of Indy AMPs, I'd have let it slide. However, as a group we are constantly advising the new posters to do their research. Once we become seniors are we no longer obligated to read the forum? The same is true about the pricing. If you know going in, the price is too much, don't go.
In defense of the Indy AMPs, I've never had one be a huge pain. I've had a place that insisted on self service and woman was much older than I prefer (Morning Sun), a place where the woman was unappealing to me in every way and shorted me on time (Soho), a place where the massage was very mechanical, but the woman was hot (Ariel) and a place with no extras and a firm massage that left me bruised (Broadripple). But every place has been polite, except maybe Soho, and I've at least felt I got my $60 worth. Maybe I've been lucky or maybe it's my attitude and always having a smile, but my experiences here have been decent.
I don't compare local to Toronto, where standard finish is always included in the price and you can always find an 8, 9 or 10. As you said, find what works for you and stick with it.[/QUOTE]I have been in the hobby for many years, in fact, I think I am coming to the end as age has taken its toll, however, I would like to report a little on the decline of the local AMP situation. 10-15 years ago, it used to be pretty good, there also were other types of MP, not all AMP. But the pressure from LE gradually won, the businesses dwindled to very few, and if you have been in the hobby for more than a few years you have witnessed how often the places get raided, LE takes the cash, their cars are taken, and people go to jail and pay huge fines. Why would the best looking providers even think of coming to Indy? I leave Indy for the winter and go to either Florida, (Tampa area) or Arizona, Scottsdale, Phoenix. If you will search the BP ads for these areas, one will see that there are more ads than you can read. The same places have been open in the Tampa / Clearwater area for as long as I have been going. Phoenix has an AMP in almost every strip mall, they must pay the police off, for they are always open, there menu is plentiful, and the ladies are 6-10 in many of them. Many visit from Vegas and California. When I return to Indy in the Spring I am shocked when I visit one of our local AMP and get the service offered here compared to what I have found away from here. And, it continues to decline.
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[QUOTE=HoBeau;2555263]I scanned BP and picked a AMP on Madison Ave. When I arrived I was pleased at how inconspicuous it looked. I entered and was immediately shown to private room that was quite nice. I paid the sixty dollar fee for a one hour massage and stripped down for business.
I asked for a table shower and was given one. The water was appropriately hot, which was nice. The cleaning was unremarkable. Only a very slight bit of teasing.
Back to the room for ten minutes of lame back rub. To call it a massage would be an injustice to the art. On the flip the attention shifted right to my dick which was promptly doused with an excessive amount of oil and accompanied by some gently stroking. This is good, I thought. I then asked if extras were available and the girl shook her head indicating a lack of understanding of the question. I then translated into the universal dialect of AMPs - "sucky fucky". Which got a similar head shake indicating lack of understanding of the question.
At this point the girl. No wait the 40-something cow. Drew the arabic numbers 1 - 5 - 0 on her palm followed by a hand gesture wherein she alternately put her hand over her pussy then over her mouth then drew out the arabic numbers again. Now I am not a sign language expert, and I could certainly be wrong, but I interpreted this as "$150 for sucky-fucky".
I laughed and said just finish the massage. As either a good faith gesture or as an attempt to market her wares, she removed her tits from her bra and exhibited the most unappetizing areolas I've seen this decade. Then she put my hand in her panties for me to explore the parched desert between her legs.
I engaged in a little self serve and she joined in with a little ass play. When I encouraged it she left the room to don a nitrile glove and went three knuckles deep in my stink. This was as arousing as a proctology exam. She used so much lube that I expect to have anal leekage for a week.
This was the point, thirty minutes into and hour session, when I concluded this was a lost cause. It was time to cut my losses and leave. Which I did.
The girl asked for a tip. I guess the language barrier wasn't a problem now. I told her to "buy low and sell high". She looked confused, so I clarified that I paid for an hour and only got a half hour of half ass service. She was still confused, so I pointed to the clock and left.
IF this sounds too harsh, I invite you to try a real AMP. Warren, OH might be the closest. There you get what you pay for. And not from a 45 year old Hag. If you go, ask for Nana or Lisa. And tell hat Ho Beau sent you.[/QUOTE]Yes, miss Warren Ohio. Had a lot of fun times there while I lived in Cleveland. Right before I left in 2010, there was a big bust there and it was very slow for a while I heard. May have to make a road trip soon.
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[QUOTE=RunForGold;2556281]I have been in the hobby for many years, in fact, I think I am coming to the end as age has taken its toll, however, I would like to report a little on the decline of the local AMP situation. 10-15 years ago, it used to be pretty good, there also were other types of MP, not all AMP. But the pressure from LE gradually won, the businesses dwindled to very few, and if you have been in the hobby for more than a few years you have witnessed how often the places get raided, LE takes the cash, their cars are taken, and people go to jail and pay huge fines. Why would the best looking providers even think of coming to Indy? I leave Indy for the winter and go to either Florida, (Tampa area) or Arizona, Scottsdale, Phoenix. If you will search the BP ads for these areas, one will see that there are more ads than you can read. The same places have been open in the Tampa / Clearwater area for as long as I have been going. Phoenix has an AMP in almost every strip mall, they must pay the police off, for they are always open, there menu is plentiful, and the ladies are 6-10 in many of them. Many visit from Vegas and California. When I return to Indy in the Spring I am shocked when I visit one of our local AMP and get the service offered here compared to what I have found away from here. And, it continues to decline.[/QUOTE]I've mentioned the LE issues a few times in regards to our AMP situation. It's sad, but what can you do?
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[QUOTE=Jjbee62;2556359]I've mentioned the LE issues a few times in regards to our AMP situation. It's sad, but what can you do?[/QUOTE]There is nothing we can do! At times, I feel sorry for the AMP providers, because they are at the end of a career, they are no longer requested to work at the nicer AMP's in the friendly locations in the country as they no longer draw customers. I feel they locate to Indy to serve their last few years in the business, make what they can and perhaps return to China and whatever family they have there. I will say a positive for the Asians, I have never, ever, seen an Asian provider who was reliant on the drug culture. They were always drug free. Be safe.
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Chinese food
You guys really need to learn some Chinese. So the last two times I have gotten lucky getting a massage and Chinese food. I was at bean and ni and they both offered my Chinese food.
I went to ni and got Jenny and she is 6 or 7 out of 10. She has nice breasts about a see or the. The massage was ok and was just rubbing oil all over the place. This lady likes to bargain. She does not speak any English but will sign you what you need.
She tried to start off at 200 for an old fashioned and just playing with the head lights. That is way too much for an old fashioned so I said just keep the 20 and I will go. She gave in and gave me a decent rate. After words she also gave me some food after I gave her a massage.
Not sure if I would repeat or not. The bargaining was a pain in the ass.
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The Beach
Had a great time with Cindy at the beach I've seen her three times now and have established a rapport I got a kiss on the cheek and a butt squeeze the last time I went but the best part was the frothy finish at the end of all my visits it may be rocky getting there but it's easy to find.
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This place on Shadeland
I'm an out-of-towner who was in the Circle City for a few days last week. I was curious how your establishments compare with my hometown and this was closest to my location: [URL]http://indianapolis.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/grand-opening-free-table-showerasian-massage-new-staff-317622-1510/12626752[/URL].
Well, of course, the attendant didn't look anything like any of the pictures, but that's just SOP. Unfortunate that she was pretty much the exact opposite, though. $60 for an hour, not a bad rub. Was happy for the teasing from behind along with "you like?" to indicate that I would be able to receive the service I was hoping for. "How much?" she asked. Dang, I didn't stick to my guns when I said $40. "More?" Ok, $60. A very good-non-rushed HJ. Her clothes stayed on, but that was ok with me.
One of these days I have to keep my wits about me and find out, will they really pass on $40 for a service that they're already entirely willing to provide and which doesn't cost them anything?
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Mountain
This is my first report so forgive if it's not completely correct with terminology visited the mountains the other dayid afternoon. Greeted by a thin mid 30's about 6-7 on the scale. Asked for hr with ts. Ts was greet and I will admit it was my first on so with that I don't have much to rate it on. But it felt pretty good. A little teasing during Ts so I envisioned a good visit massage was pretty good then on the flip she went straight to business. I guess she couldn't maneuver around it so she figured what the hell. Great technique with a great finish. All in all. 6 for massage and TS I left what seems to be standard. 4 for her efforts. Will be returning very soon.
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[QUOTE=PickyPicky;2558874]I'm an out-of-towner who was in the Circle City for a few days last week. I was curious how your establishments compare with my hometown and this was closest to my location: [URL]http://indianapolis.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/grand-opening-free-table-showerasian-massage-new-staff-317622-1510/12626752[/URL].
Well, of course, the attendant didn't look anything like any of the pictures, but that's just SOP. Unfortunate that she was pretty much the exact opposite, though. $60 for an hour, not a bad rub. Was happy for the teasing from behind along with "you like?" to indicate that I would be able to receive the service I was hoping for. "How much?" she asked. Dang, I didn't stick to my guns when I said $40. "More?" Ok, $60. A very good-non-rushed HJ. Her clothes stayed on, but that was ok with me.
One of these days I have to keep my wits about me and find out, will they really pass on $40 for a service that they're already entirely willing to provide and which doesn't cost them anything?[/QUOTE]Good review. Most of the places will accept 4 with no problems. It's when you try to take the service to the next level that the prices go crazy.
Just curious if you've sampled any of the Lansing AMPs.
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[QUOTE=BallsDeep710;2558902]This is my first report so forgive if it's not completely correct with terminology visited the mountains the other dayid afternoon. Greeted by a thin mid 30's about 6-7 on the scale. Asked for hr with ts. Ts was greet and I will admit it was my first on so with that I don't have much to rate it on. But it felt pretty good. A little teasing during Ts so I envisioned a good visit massage was pretty good then on the flip she went straight to business. I guess she couldn't maneuver around it so she figured what the hell. Great technique with a great finish. All in all. 6 for massage and TS I left what seems to be standard. 4 for her efforts. Will be returning very soon.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the review. That pretty much covers everything. I usually save the Ts until after the massage. I find it more relaxing and I get all the oil off. However, starting with the Ts, especially at a new place, gives you an idea about how the massage is going to go.