Massage Parlor Reports

I would propose that the simpler theory is that OS was targeted for way they operatated. Suggestive advertising, suggesstive signage, and therapist that that great you in super short dressess wearing no panties. I think that might get some attention.

You also have failed to address why other places that have been reviewed here continue to operate.

Does LEO get information off this board? Absolutely. Does that mean they choose which places to raid based on this board. Absolutely not. I believe some of you guys attribute more influence to this board than it really haves. Information on the hot places was spread long before there was an internet.

And on the spread of information, the coded language used here is really pretty pointless. Whether you say 'I dreamed she took me on a tour of the Greek islands' or 'I fucked her up the ass' you have given them same information. If 50 guys had posted 'You guys have to go to OS, they take care of you really well' would anything have been different?

Some guys want to give a blow by blow account of what happened. Some just want 'left happy, would repeat. ' Is one style over the top and the other to vague. Probably. Is there a happy medium somewhere in between? Probably. Will we all agree on where that optimum place is? Probably not.

Can we please just agree to disagree and move on.

[QUOTE=VerySlowly; 1195876]Excellent post!

Some seem to seek extensive data, I stand back and look at the results, as in "Occams Razor" where Occam postulates that the simplest answer is the correct one.

"Scientists must use the simplest means of arriving at their results and exclude

Everything not perceived by the senses."

"When you have two competing theories that make exactly the same predictions, the simpler one is the better."

So when you have a message board that spews lots of data, LE now has a source of information, there is no other common source of this data, as this information is not commonly spoken of in polite company. LE knows that MP prostitution is difficult to prove but that improper or no license or Fire inspection or Health Dept. Inspection violations are sufficient to solve the problem, even if it is temporary. Since LE has read this " Anecdotal" information repeatedly, Occam says that only an idiot would go to extremes (a big investigation) to achieve the goal of closing the den of inequity when the straight line will achieve the goal. (Simplest answer).

Anyone who looks for complicated answers to simple problems is simply making their thought process more difficult and is in denial of reality. LE operates on a rather simple hypothesis. If it quacks like a duck it is a duck, it might be Gilbert Godfried but if they screw up and their wrong nothing happens to them at all-so why not! Bliss is a good example. Raid+Arrest=Prosecutor has no valid evidence and files no charges (This is called a no information) and the people arrested simply walk out of court, LE has no downside they pat themselves on the back and go back to work, if they had a downside they would not be so quick to pull the trigger with no substantive evidence.

The doubter (SJ) says "OS STUCK OUT" "They operated in a way that drew attention to themselves and paid the price." Did they advertise FS-NO. So I ask again where did LE get their info, AND HOW DID THEY CALL ATTENTION TO THEMSELVES, I'm QUITE CERTAIN I NEVER WOULD HAVE HEARD OF THEM WERE IT NOT FOR THIS BOARD.

Bottom line is they read this everyday and if they can shoot fish in a barrel, they will E. O. S-VS[/QUOTE]

Aight! Can we move on. It has been almost a week now. This site is called USA "Sex" Guide. This board is used for updates and to keep us informed much on what is worth the dinero or not. Be safe and enjoy. LOL.

[QUOTE=Seminole John; 1195957]I would propose that the simpler theory is that OS was targeted for way they operatated. Suggestive advertising, suggesstive signage, and therapist that that great you in super short dressess wearing no panties. I think that might get some attention.

You also have failed to address why other places that have been reviewed here continue to operate.

Does LEO get information off this board? Absolutely. Does that mean they choose which places to raid based on this board. Absolutely not. I believe some of you guys attribute more influence to this board than it really haves. Information on the hot places was spread long before there was an internet.

And on the spread of information, the coded language used here is really pretty pointless. Whether you say 'I dreamed she took me on a tour of the Greek islands' or 'I fucked her up the ass' you have given them same information. If 50 guys had posted 'You guys have to go to OS, they take care of you really well' would anything have been different?

Some guys want to give a blow by blow account of what happened. Some just want 'left happy, would repeat. ' Is one style over the top and the other to vague. Probably. Is there a happy medium somewhere in between? Probably. Will we all agree on where that optimum place is? Probably not.

Can we please just agree to disagree and move on. [/QUOTE]

Location, location, location.

They are very familiar with how to operate. The door is not open to just anyone. If you are not a regular, do not even try pushing too far. Very smart op and familiar with human analysis. The visit is on a timer and you can hear the clock when time is up. However, the more frequent you go the better opportunities are presented.

Definitely worth a repeat. Some of the girls are 10+ and the scale keeps going up!

[QUOTE=Overthepond13;1195726]I have. IMHO they have improved. The upsell isn't so prevalent. Massage still just an excuse for a massage, but the girls (or at least many of them) are pretty darn hot, young and eager to please. This is just the way I like them. Not afraid to show a little flesh and more than a memorable shake to finish off the festivities. I worry that they are too high profile though, which keeps me away most of the time. I'm looking for one of the MT ladies out there that flies under the radar.[/QUOTE]

While you guys are busy arguing about where OS went and why, I found an ol favorite of mine. Nicole from the old Lotus (god do I really miss Dava and her place) is at Winter Park Massage at 415 South Orlando Ave. Her new name is Patricia and she is there afternoons (she is still working her full time job at the phone co) And like always she is VERY accomadating. For those of you who knew her there she is still giving the same great massage. For those who don't know her yet give her a try. She still has that very sexy trim body of hers and the extra soft add on pillows are still very avaliable. She says she's had them for a long time and they are still very soft! Treat her right and she will take care of you! Massage is great and I will be back. Oh and by the way this place is open 7 days a week for those of us looking for a place on Sundays.

Question. Did the "raid" at Ocean Spa make the news?

I'm just curious because I did not hear anything about expcet from here. And you would think LEO would want to flaunt another shut down.

Thanks.

TC69

[QUOTE=Laymedown1;1194645]Did the girls get any younger? Or are we still pulling the left overs?[/QUOTE]Well, I like to think of them as experienced. Not old. .

Has anyone seen this one? Is it worth it? Good massage? Great service? Or just stay away.

[url]http://www.nelsasmassage.com/[/url]

Chears

[QUOTE=True Critic69; 1196030]Question. Did the "raid" at Ocean Spa make the news?

I'm just curious because I did not hear anything about expcet from here. And you would think LEO would want to flaunt another shut down.

Thanks.

TC69[/QUOTE]They apparently were not shut down for Prostitution but for licensing violations.

A while back LE was raiding barber shops catering to a Black and Hispanic clientele, looking for unlicensed barbers, that was stopped quickly, it was politically incorrect as well as stupid to say the least. This is what happens when "Crime" stats are down (Val Demming's gets all the credit but she has nothing to do with it as "Crime" is down in the whole state.) and LE has nothing better to do but protect us from heinous crimes such as these-VS

"You also have failed to address why other places that have been reviewed here continue to operate."-Quote from SJ.

Simple-if the girls are licensed massage therapists and the shop has all the proper licenses and you get naked then you are not a cop, thats why they have not been "raided" it couldn't be any simpler.

In Sarasota LE tried a new approach, sending in non police officers (Confidential informants) to gather evidence and testify, the judge ruled that the C. I. 's were in fact acting as police officers in that their sole purpose in being there was to investigate a possible violation of law. So he disallowed their testimony and blew Law Enforcement's case. Now that case is valid case law and can be used as a defense. If LE wasn't so hamstrung by the "Rules of evidence" there would not be a MP anywhere in Orlando that wasn't 100% legitimate.

As long as you qualify yourself by completely undressing (Getting comfortable) there have not to my knowledge been any convictions in this area for prostitution.

Committing a crime to prove a crime is not permitted on this level of crime. The laws in the cases of Drug violations are different, different strokes for different folks(pun intended).
One of the reasons other than oriental culture for the table shower is the obvious qualification that it affords.

I agree lets get off it, you have your position I have mine, individual board members can do as they wish and decide for themselves who has the correct position here, I haven't heard anything that changes my position one iota-VS

Went to Golden Tiger the other day, Saw Mimi late 30`s but killer body gave ma a awesome back massage works great with her hands and knows how to keep a man company, on the flip gave me a nice head rub that allowed the stress to get out. She told me they will be having TS next month.

[QUOTE=Bez191; 1196041]Has anyone seen this one? Is it worth it? Good massage? Great service? Or just stay away.

[url]http://www.nelsasmassage.com/[/url]

Chears[/QUOTE]I personally has not experienced her massages. There has been reviews here. 100% legit and so-so massage. Thru the years seeing her ads, the big flag is how many different places she has worked.

[QUOTE=VerySlowly; 1196064]"You also have failed to address why other places that have been reviewed here continue to operate."-Quote from SJ.

Simple-if the girls are licensed massage therapists and the shop has all the proper licenses and you get naked then you are not a cop, thats why they have not been "raided" it couldn't be any simpler.

In Sarasota LE tried a new approach, sending in non police officers (Confidential informants) to gather evidence and testify, the judge ruled that the C. I. 's were in fact acting as police officers in that their sole purpose in being there was to investigate a possible violation of law. So he disallowed their testimony and blew Law Enforcement's case. Now that case is valid case law and can be used as a defense. If LE wasn't so hamstrung by the "Rules of evidence" there would not be a MP anywhere in Orlando that wasn't 100% legitimate.

As long as you qualify yourself by completely undressing (Getting comfortable) there have not to my knowledge been any convictions in this area for prostitution.

Committing a crime to prove a crime is not permitted on this level of crime. The laws in the cases of Drug violations are different, different strokes for different folks (pun intended).

One of the reasons other than oriental culture for the table shower is the obvious qualification that it affords.

I agree lets get off it, you have your position I have mine, individual board members can do as they wish and decide for themselves who has the correct position here, I haven't heard anything that changes my position one iota-VS[/QUOTE]Many years ago, maybe 10 years in either Deland or Debray there was a case, LEO was naked on a massage table and there was a conviction. Actually up until that case it was always understood that a cop could never get naked but keep on their underwear. The courts ruled the cops acted legally! This changed the rules of engagement.

I have been off from the site for a while and posted a question or request the other day. Seems it got lost in what continues to be the everlasting USASG pissing contests. Listen Men, you are not going to change the other guys view. There needs to be a new thread called "Pissing contest" for you guys who insist on always having something to say good or bad. I agree with some of it and disagree with other parts, big deal, nature of the beast.

Now as for what this thread is for, here is a report from me for today from a place I have not been too since it changed names. I was in the mood for some Swedish supergroup music and met the older dark haired woman in the group. For one thing, she has not aged well, she's stacked, but that is where it ends. Hints of possibilities but nothing in my dream came true and felt as if the brakes were solidly put on at the end. Got a table shower which left me somewhat clean but I wasnt about to wash myself. When she helped me dry she DIRECTED me to where I was supposed to leave the her the tip back in the room. Not a good experience, not a great massage, not a great cleansing, not a great finish. There was another girl who worked there who I did not see the face of but I would be more willing to try someone else. As always YMMV. Be safe.MM

[QUOTE=Barolo;1196196]Many years ago, maybe 10 years in either Deland or Debray there was a case, LEO was naked on a massage table and there was a conviction. Actually up until that case it was always understood that a cop could never get naked but keep on their underwear. The courts ruled the cops acted legally! This changed the rules of engagement.[/QUOTE]Otherwise your post is absolute B. S. There has been no change in the rules of engagement, I have been in the area over 20 yrs. And it's always been the same and still is, otherwise popping MP'S would be easy-VS

I know I shouldn't do. Its a bad idea. I know that I know I shouldn't do this. But I can't resist beating the carcass one more time. I completely deserve any shit I get for this.

But may just suggest for your consideration that your own comments undermine the argument that comments here lead to OS's closure. Assuming what you say is correct, I don't know, they were closed for license issues not prostition. So the charges are not directly linked to anything said here. I know what you're to say now "it was because of the post that the looked there in the first place." To which I will respond, again assuming what you're saying about the barbers is true, if the cops were hasseling barbers over licenses, which I hope we all can agree is not due to comments her, is it not concievable that bugging businesses that require license but often don't have them is just LEO SOP and their visit to OS had nothing at all to do with this forum? Yes I know for the sites grammar police that that was a massive run-on sentence. But just maybe is that possible? Which gets me back to my original point of we don't know. Not saying that's what happened but is it not a plausible alternative to LEO saw that we were having a good time somewhere and had to develop a diabolical plan to put a stop to it? Just might that be possible? And perhaps we don't have enough facts to blame anybody? Maybe there is no one to blame but OS for not taking proper precautions? Just some food for thought.

P. S. The Deming I was refer to was W. Edwards Deming, sorry typo before. Not Val or Jerry. I completely forgot about them. Dr. Deming was an early proponent of statistical quality control and data driven management. He was ignored by his fellow Americans in 50s (?) And 60's who continued to do what they 'knew' was the right to do business. Deming found an audiance in Japan who used his techniques to kick our asses in the 70's and 80's. We've been playing catch up ever since. Sorry history aside over.

[QUOTE=VerySlowly; 1196051]They apparently were not shut down for Prostitution but for licensing violations.

A while back LE was raiding barber shops catering to a Black and Hispanic clientele, looking for unlicensed barbers, that was stopped quickly, it was politically incorrect as well as stupid to say the least. This is what happens when "Crime" stats are down (Val Demming's gets all the credit but she has nothing to do with it as "Crime" is down in the whole state.) and LE has nothing better to do but protect us from heinous crimes such as these-VS[/QUOTE]