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[QUOTE=Star67;2788470]Howard. I love ya man but are you saying you would nail your own cousin?[/QUOTE]Come on don't you remember going to the family reunion and seeing that cousin. I have one that I would do in a heartbeat, she just got divorced and is still hot.
Sister, no way, ok maybe she could blow me, but cousins oh yeah.
This never meant to be a long term hobby and figured I better get out before it catches up with me. I've been alternating between AMPs and providers over the last two years. Apart from the fact that I can't really afford this hobby, soon or later I'm going to slip up and run into LE, or get robbed, or catch something. Time to bid it all adieu.
[QUOTE=Acrovader7;2789861]This never meant to be a long term hobby and figured I better get out before it catches up with me. I've been alternating between AMPs and providers over the last two years. Apart from the fact that I can't really afford this hobby, soon or later I'm going to slip up and run into LE, or get robbed, or catch something. Time to bid it all adieu.[/QUOTE]You are better for it. Chasing after mediocre looking women who are struggling with poverty or addiction issues is not a win. Like Lefty said in another thread, sometimes it's good to go on a diet. After I let go of cruising and TOFTT at low-level AMP's, I decided to narrow things down. I cut out anyone too ill, too impoverished, or too reliant on drama. I found a reliable, drama free, and reasonably attractive young woman who will do outcall when it fits my schedule. Suits me fine for when I simply need an honest break as a man. Viola. No more need for edging with anything dangerous on a personal level. Why haunt myself simply for the thrill?
Perhaps you need to focus on what your primary needs are and take it from there. Do it for you.
[QUOTE=WiNiteOwl;2789917]You are better for it. Chasing after mediocre looking women who are struggling with poverty or addiction issues is not a win. Like Lefty said in another thread, sometimes it's good to go on a diet. After I let go of cruising and TOFTT at low-level AMP's, I decided to narrow things down. I cut out anyone too ill, too impoverished, or too reliant on drama. I found a reliable, drama free, and reasonably attractive young woman who will do outcall when it fits my schedule. Suits me fine for when I simply need an honest break as a man. Viola. No more need for edging with anything dangerous on a personal level. Why haunt myself simply for the thrill?
Perhaps you need to focus on what your primary needs are and take it from there. Do it for you.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the support. This business is too much a gamble. Even though I've been burned a couple times, it could've been a lot worse. And truly exceptionable experiences have been few and far between. There been many times where I could've save myself a lot of money by staying home and watching a porno. For awhile I thought I'd play it 'safe' and stick to AMPs. But those places had a revolving door of girls and quality is highly varied. I plan to give it up entirely, but I've said that to myself many times before and found myself back at it. If you quit, you QUIT.
[QUOTE=Acrovader7;2789936]Thanks for the support. This business is too much a gamble. Even though I've been burned a couple times, it could've been a lot worse. And truly exceptionable experiences have been few and far between. There been many times where I could've save myself a lot of money by staying home and watching a porno. For awhile I thought I'd play it 'safe' and stick to AMPs. But those places had a revolving door of girls and quality is highly varied. I plan to give it up entirely, but I've said that to myself many times before and found myself back at it. If you quit, you QUIT.[/QUOTE]Stay away from porno. I wish this site did not have such graphic images. Night Owl brings up something about why we do this. Me. At first it was I had little experience and wondered what I might be missing.
Whats all the fuss about. So 400 providers and 1000 encounters later I'm sure I've covered it all. After you subtract all the HE's by Asian grannies and where I just slapped on a cover and bent over a woman dealing with poverty and addiction, the really fun times were quite minimal. I'm certain the lady on the other end getting Greeked to her eyeballs wasn't doing anything new and exciting.
Every day I see, speak, or hear from at least 5 providers. Sometimes I'm reminded and haunted by the troubles they have. Beatings from their boyfriend or girlfriend, coping with addiction and needing medication, children that are disturbed, poverty issues, and friends who make it worse.
For a long time when one would call and request to have me sodomize her, I thought it was ok, its her idea, right? Really it wasn't her calling it was the drugs.
Maybe on some level she wanted some attention, affection, from someone that found them appealing. Just as I wanted some attention, affection from someone, even if I was paying for it.
One of my ATFs was not about the sex but when she would come, the first thing she would do was my dishes. She's make the bed afterward, fold laundry, and we would watch Tv. Sometimes talk for a long time. After a few hours we found we just liked being with each other.
Soon she would need to leave and return back to her world of hopelessness. At least for a couple of hours we got to pretend we were a couple. In another world we might have been a couple. But no way I'm taking on her drama.
Night Owl has that sweet UTR that meets his needs. He won't admit it but he's kind of sweet on her. I think he's be sad if he couldn't see her any more. Most seniors have all had the one or twenty really special one that gets to us.
You know, she's the one you get all cleaned up for, you tip a little extra, you show more affection to. Exchange sweet little text and email messages, when you don't need to be.
OFG. I get the feeling he kind of enjoys romancing them a bit with dinner at a nice place. He's liv'and the life. Treating them well and not making these women feel so bad.
The point is, no one is missing out on anything. Don't walk on thin ice. Parking your car at the no-tel is liking parking your car on Lake Geneva right now. If you need some attention go to an AMP. Clean, safe, disease free, no communication, no FB, no phone numbers, no emails, no drama, and a good massage is good for you.
Sometimes I wonder if I would spend the cash that I spend on this hobby and actually just spend it on my SO instead. Would that spice things up? If I would take her out for $150 dinner versus blowing it on a girl for an hour. If I would pick up something for $30 for her in stead of head from some street. If I would take the $100 plus I would blow at an AMP and just send her a dozen roses at work?
My guess is that would pay off because as was said here, even though my mind thinks I want to get off with some strange, my experience tells me what I really enjoy is the complete connection with a woman. It might now pay off though. I might be wrong, most women I have had relationships with have a hard time letting go of all the drama in their heads which usually gets in the way of intimate connections. It's almost easier with a strange, of course not some crack head, but with a genuine AMP lady once you get to know her or that regular we all keep in our back pocket that we call just because it's always so much fun. There isn't all the regular life BS that gets in the way.
I had an affair years ago when I was married and it was amazing for about a year. Fun, sex, drinking, more fun and sex, experimenting. It was like finding that unicorn just not having to pay the $$ in the same way. Oh believe me, it cost me in the long run and would have been cheaper sticking with an AMP. But it was amazing while it was going on.
But I've come to think that life is what it is and we just have to roll with it every day. There isn't any perfect answer. Try things out and experience life at its fullest. Quit the hobby if that what you need to do, I commend you.
All this typing and now I think I want to get laid!
Maybe I should pick something up for my SO and try that out!
Be safe.
Joe.
[QUOTE=LookingForLefty;2790099]Stay away from porno. I wish this site did not have such graphic images. Night Owl brings up something about why we do this. Me. At first it was I had little experience and wondered what I might be missing.
Whats all the fuss about. So 400 providers and 1000 encounters later I'm sure I've covered it all. After you subtract all the HE's by Asian grannies and where I just slapped on a cover and bent over a woman dealing with poverty and addiction, the really fun times were quite minimal. I'm certain the lady on the other end getting Greeked to her eyeballs wasn't doing anything new and exciting.
Every day I see, speak, or hear from at least 5 providers. Sometimes I'm reminded and haunted by the troubles they have. Beatings from their boyfriend or girlfriend, coping with addiction and needing medication, children that are disturbed, poverty issues, and friends who make it worse.
For a long time when one would call and request to have me sodomize her, I thought it was ok, its her idea, right? Really it wasn't her calling it was the drugs.
Maybe on some level she wanted some attention, affection, from someone that found them appealing. Just as I wanted some attention, affection from someone, even if I was paying for it.
One of my ATFs was not about the sex but when she would come, the first thing she would do was my dishes. She's make the bed afterward, fold laundry, and we would watch Tv. Sometimes talk for a long time. After a few hours we found we just liked being with each other.
Soon she would need to leave and return back to her world of hopelessness. At least for a couple of hours we got to pretend we were a couple. In another world we might have been a couple. But no way I'm taking on her drama.
Night Owl has that sweet UTR that meets his needs. He won't admit it but he's kind of sweet on her. I think he's be sad if he couldn't see her any more. Most seniors have all had the one or twenty really special one that gets to us.
You know, she's the one you get all cleaned up for, you tip a little extra, you show more affection to. Exchange sweet little text and email messages, when you don't need to be.
OFG. I get the feeling he kind of enjoys romancing them a bit with dinner at a nice place. He's liv'and the life. Treating them well and not making these women feel so bad.
The point is, no one is missing out on anything. Don't walk on thin ice. Parking your car at the no-tel is liking parking your car on Lake Geneva right now. If you need some attention go to an AMP. Clean, safe, disease free, no communication, no FB, no phone numbers, no emails, no drama, and a good massage is good for you.[/QUOTE]I've been in the hobby a long time now and time goes by fast. Yep there've been a hundred I suppose?? I have issues. Definitely there've been some that I feel different about than others. It's a wam bam thank you maam, or sometimes you have a nice conversation before or after or during.
Right now I have a UTR that I've had to sort out my feelings for. At one point, I know that I had ideas about our relationship that weren't realistic. But we have a level of comfort with each other that neither of us feels by hooking up with someone on BP for the first and only time for example. Hh visits are more like 2 hrs. We hang out and talk. I'm probably sort of a father figure to this one. Hell, it could be grandfather figure. I'm glad I have her. I don't cruise BP anymore and she doesn't post there either. I get some things from being around this one that I haven't gotten from the others and keeping her at the right distance is the balancing act. And she's got some drama.
I've let some of them in too close and really been burned. Now I've got some perspective that this is way better than picking up a SW, but will just end at some point and both of us will walk off in different directions which is no big deal, that's just how it works. You need to have a thick skin doing this. But we're all human and human interactions and relationships can be all sorts of different things. Just have to be real about what's really happening. I'm enjoying this one for what it is and while it lasts. Maybe I'll have another one like this and maybe I never will.
Fishdude.
[QUOTE=Fishdude;2790462]I've been in the hobby a long time now and time goes by fast. Yep there've been a hundred I suppose?? I have issues. Definitely there've been some that I feel different about than others. It's a wam bam thank you maam, or sometimes you have a nice conversation before or after or during.
Right now I have a UTR that I've had to sort out my feelings for. At one point, I know that I had ideas about our relationship that weren't realistic. But we have a level of comfort with each other that neither of us feels by hooking up with someone on BP for the first and only time for example. Hh visits are more like 2 hrs. We hang out and talk. I'm probably sort of a father figure to this one. Hell, it could be grandfather figure. I'm glad I have her. I don't cruise BP anymore and she doesn't post there either. I get some things from being around this one that I haven't gotten from the others and keeping her at the right distance is the balancing act. And she's got some drama.
I've let some of them in too close and really been burned. Now I've got some perspective that this is way better than picking up a SW, but will just end at some point and both of us will walk off in different directions which is no big deal, that's just how it works. You need to have a thick skin doing this. But we're all human and human interactions and relationships can be all sorts of different things. Just have to be real about what's really happening. I'm enjoying this one for what it is and while it lasts. Maybe I'll have another one like this and maybe I never will.
Fishdude.[/QUOTE]I try to stay away from Backpage but every once in a while one catches my eye. But never fails, always leave regretting it.
I to have a current UTR that balancing our feelings or at least mine has been at times very difficult. Definitely a learning experience for me as this is the first time I've had anything like this. Often our visits last most of the day and there's been talk of overnights and extended periods as well. I often have to remind myself that it could end any day at any time. In the meantime I am truly enjoying it. I see experiences like this being few and far between, possibly a once-in-a-lifetime.
[QUOTE=FerrariForMe;2790552]I try to stay away from Backpage but every once in a while one catches my eye. But never fails, always leave regretting it.
I to have a current UTR that balancing our feelings or at least mine has been at times very difficult. Definitely a learning experience for me as this is the first time I've had anything like this. Often our visits last most of the day and there's been talk of overnights and extended periods as well. I often have to remind myself that it could end any day at any time. In the meantime I am truly enjoying it. I see experiences like this being few and far between, possibly a once-in-a-lifetime.[/QUOTE]My house has turned into an extended stay hotel a few times. It was fun at times. Took it out in trade. I remember the first night, I has a bed made up for her.
She shows up at my bedroom door and asks me if I want her in my bed. Yes. That was fun. Did not sleep well but she was out like a light due to all her meds.
She would spend the day calling her boyfriend, call strip clubs looking for a job, calling other guys to hook up with. One them came over to pick her up. I was jealous.
Sometimes you think and extended visit will be fun but 10 minutes into the extended stay, I'm ready for them to leave.
[QUOTE=LookingForLefty;2790702]My house has turned into an extended stay hotel a few times. It was fun at times. Took it out in trade. I remember the first night, I has a bed made up for her.
She shows up at my bedroom door and asks me if I want her in my bed. Yes. That was fun. Did not sleep well but she was out like a light due to all her meds.
She would spend the day calling her boyfriend, call strip clubs looking for a job, calling other guys to hook up with. One them came over to pick her up. I was jealous.
Sometimes you think and extended visit will be fun but 10 minutes into the extended stay, I'm ready for them to leave.[/QUOTE]My favorite is a nice dinner date that begins with some great sex, then a nice dinner, then more great sex and a see you later - 3 or 4 hours. My least favorite is the 6 mo. Extended stay that ends in a restraining order. I've had both.
This current fav of mine has her own apartment, so that's part of why she's a fav. Also testament to the fact that she has something going for her. Employed, just marginally so. Not sure if she'd still have the apartment if it wasn't for me, but it was there before I came along, so let's assume so. Another part of the reason I like this one is that she seems to have some potential. There are some that are so hopeless, you may as well take the money you give them and put it on the bottom of lake mendota. The panfish would make better use of it. I feel better about compensating this one as the chances of it going somewhere worthwhile are better, but that's no guarantee either. For me being older is that the longer I get to spend with her the chances of popping more than once go way up. I used to be able to pop 3 time in a hh. Now I'm lucky if it's twice in the same week, but at the same time, I get to give some sexed up 23 yo one big O after another and have the fun of her quivering all over me.
With the assistance of this crew. Hoe-Confessions.
[QUOTE=OlderChap;2790821]With the assistance of this crew. Hoe-Confessions.[/QUOTE]Was this post necessary? No offense OlderChap, but if you didn't get anything from the conversation below just move on. No reason to slam people.
[QUOTE=Star67;2791261]Was this post necessary? No offense OlderChap, but if you didn't get anything from the conversation below just move on. No reason to slam people.[/QUOTE]Just trying to keep things a little less serious. Hardly anyone who's been around for any length of time has not had second thoughts about "the hobby," yours truly included.
[QUOTE=Star67;2791261]Was this post necessary? No offense OlderChap, but if you didn't get anything from the conversation below just move on. No reason to slam people.[/QUOTE]I apologize. I took your comments the wrong way. Be safe my friend.
[QUOTE=OlderChap;2791280]Just trying to keep things a little less serious. Hardly anyone who's been around for any length of time has not had second thoughts about "the hobby," yours truly included.[/QUOTE]I apologize. I took what you had said the wrong way. For the record, I appreciate when members get serious once and a while here. Its what makes this forum great. Be safe my friend.