Rants, Raves and Opinions AKA "The Octagon"

Jeez, he didn't mean literally abused, he meant abused in the pocket book.

[QUOTE=WordSmithFour; 1885335]I try to live by the "to each his own" motto, the an abuse comment on Ally needs a reply. I've seen her a number of times-and talk with her as friends-and have never gotten the impression that "abuse" is part of her repertoure. In fact, it's one of the few things she quotes is out of bounds at the start. So, if that's how you meant it, Ally must have new tricks up her sleeve that I don't know about.

If you're implying that abuse is having to pay for someone you, personally, don't find appealing? Well, you're a senior-you know that if it's not your cup of tea, then look elsewhere. But some of us value what she brings to the table. You're free to join in or not. Just like ee all are.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Glockman;1885428]Ok, so I am much better at taking photos than in telling jokes.[/QUOTE]Yes, life can get really hard at times in Memphis.

I might have to take you up on that!

[QUOTE=SashaBlack; 1885414]I might be able to do this.

Want to try.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Briant2;1884973]I'm trying to figure out why anyone would pay $250 to see sinful dreams? Anyone care to explain? It's a free country, she can charge whatever she wants. I'm just wondering if anyone has seen her and why or if it is worth $250? There are many girls here who look twice as good and cost half that price, don't mean to be a dick but, I'm just being realistic here.[/QUOTE]Dude, that question is in very poor taste. I would apologize to SD right now, if I were you.

[QUOTE=Briant2;1884973]I'm trying to figure out why anyone would pay $250 to see sinful dreams? Anyone care to explain? It's a free country, she can charge whatever she wants. I'm just wondering if anyone has seen her and why or if it is worth $250? There are many girls here who look twice as good and cost half that price, don't mean to be a dick but, I'm just being realistic here.[/QUOTE]I have seen her many times. Always a great time in a Very Nice Place Hot tub and all. She has always asked if I had any special requests, and all have been granted. Some of the other girls may be cheaper which is fine and you will have a good time, some I have seen, some of those girls go thru the motions which is ok. Sinful has never not given a great performance. She has always has candles and soft music playing at least for me. She may not be your cup of tea and thats ok also. I hope this gives you alittle info to make a decision, if you need more info pm me.

Fitter

Very uncool sir. So, $$.5 is out of your range. Or you don't like it. Complaining just isn't going to get you anywhere. Sure, there are other options, but it is quite obvious from what has been said here for the last year (s) that SD is indeed be a very special person. Yeah, more than the average here, but I she offers way more than "the average." I am hoping one day to find out. And suspect I will.

[QUOTE=D Nut;1885729]Dude, that question is in very poor taste. I would apologize to SD right now, if I were you.[/QUOTE]First off, everything we do is in poor taste, so get off the high horse. It was a legitimate question, which Fitter answered, and I take his word for it. If you don't like discussing the appearances, performances, and rates of the providers, then what the fuck is the point of this entire website? Specifically this member discussion forum based on the Classified Ads? The girls sell three things, appearance, performance, and attitude / personality (sorta the same thing). The appearance of the girls is a core aspect of this business, if you're afraid to hurt someone's feelings, then don't do so. That is your business, but don't get butthurt if some of us want to keep everything honest and on the table. If I think a provider is ugly, specifically if they mislead you with photos, I will say so in my review, that way I save someone else's ass from wasting their money. Additionally, I never even said SD was unattractive, I said there are girls here who look twice as good. That is my opinion, disagree with it if you like, I don't care. I'm sure SD rocks some of you're worlds and that's fine, but $250 to bust a nut is a laughable amount, given the competition. I know at least 3 providers who do a fantastic job for a fraction of the cost. So two or 3 good times versus one good time? It seems like a pretty easy decision to me.

[QUOTE=Briant2;1887014]First off, everything we do is in poor taste, so get off the high horse. It was a legitimate question, which Fitter answered, and I take his word for it. If you don't like discussing the appearances, performances, and rates of the providers, then what the fuck is the point of this entire website? Specifically this member discussion forum based on the Classified Ads? The girls sell three things, appearance, performance, and attitude / personality (sorta the same thing). The appearance of the girls is a core aspect of this business, if you're afraid to hurt someone's feelings, then don't do so. That is your business, but don't get butthurt if some of us want to keep everything honest and on the table. If I think a provider is ugly, specifically if they mislead you with photos, I will say so in my review, that way I save someone else's ass from wasting their money. Additionally, I never even said SD was unattractive, I said there are girls here who look twice as good. That is my opinion, disagree with it if you like, I don't care. I'm sure SD rocks some of you're worlds and that's fine, but $250 to bust a nut is a laughable amount, given the competition. I know at least 3 providers who do a fantastic job for a fraction of the cost. So two or 3 good times versus one good time? It seems like a pretty easy decision to me.[/QUOTE]Slandering her on the boards wouldn't be my first choice. How about a little respect. This is supposed to be a community. We all have different taste. What one guys does with his hard earned cash is up to him. I know where mine has went and will continue to go when I resume. I like spending my time with Sweet Tna.

You must be a /b/ro!

Anyway, you are right, that is the purpose of this site. I agree reviews should be in good taste but I don't think you crossed the line with your legetimate question.

I think its some whitenights doing what they do, being whitenights. The word slandering is laughable, so 2trusting, grown folks are talking, don't be a drama queen. Asking a question is not slandering.

[QUOTE=Briant2;1887014]First off, everything we do is in poor taste, so get off the high horse. It was a legitimate question, which Fitter answered, and I take his word for it. If you don't like discussing the appearances, performances, and rates of the providers, then what the fuck is the point of this entire website? Specifically this member discussion forum based on the Classified Ads? The girls sell three things, appearance, performance, and attitude / personality (sorta the same thing). The appearance of the girls is a core aspect of this business, if you're afraid to hurt someone's feelings, then don't do so. That is your business, but don't get butthurt if some of us want to keep everything honest and on the table. If I think a provider is ugly, specifically if they mislead you with photos, I will say so in my review, that way I save someone else's ass from wasting their money. Additionally, I never even said SD was unattractive, I said there are girls here who look twice as good. That is my opinion, disagree with it if you like, I don't care. I'm sure SD rocks some of you're worlds and that's fine, but $250 to bust a nut is a laughable amount, given the competition. I know at least 3 providers who do a fantastic job for a fraction of the cost. So two or 3 good times versus one good time? It seems like a pretty easy decision to me.[/QUOTE]

I would just like to say how freaking happy I am to have my computer up and running I have felt disconnected from the world yes expect more pictures and new advertising I know this isn't a rant or opinion but I am raving about how excited I am.

I'm glad someone appreciated the term butthurt. I still stand by what I said, I think my question was legitimate. I would say that 75% of everything I've ever said about the girls in my reviews has been positive, and I always treat them respectfully in person. However, I won't censor my opinion to avoid hurting someone's feelings. I've only spoken negatively of Blake, Intice (sort of) , Laura (backpage) , Chelsea (backpage) , Paige (the amelia one) , and now I guess Sinful, but again I don't think I was "slandering" or being truly insulting, maybe just insensitive. I've had positive experiences with Candice, Rachel, Remmy, Karma, Brandy, TgtbtRedhead (moved to florida, best escort ever, miss her) , Jenn, Maddee, Melea, Lexi, and so on. I think a lot of guys feel pressure to give girls good reviews, or at least decent ones, in order to avoid conflict. I speak my mind on everyone I see, hopefully some people appreciate that. It may intimidate some providers to see me, I guess, if they see me posting negative reviews of some girls. The reality is, as long as communication is easy and they hold an appointment, the girl looks like her photos, pretends to enjoy herself, and doesn't text me randomly begging for me to see them, then they are going to get a good review. Unfortunately, many girls fail at one or all of the above. Maybe they had an off-day, well that's their problem, because if the provider isn't any good I'm not going to go see them again, first impressions will make or break a business relationship. I actually consider myself pretty lenient in my reviews, you've got to really fuck up in order to get a bad review, but many providers are trash, its the nature of what we do.

[QUOTE=Briant2;1887666]I'm glad someone appreciated the term butthurt. I still stand by what I said, I think my question was legitimate. I would say that 75% of everything I've ever said about the girls in my reviews has been positive, and I always treat them respectfully in person. However, I won't censor my opinion to avoid hurting someone's feelings. I've only spoken negatively of Blake, Intice (sort of) , Laura (backpage) , Chelsea (backpage) , Paige (the amelia one) , and now I guess Sinful, but again I don't think I was "slandering" or being truly insulting, maybe just insensitive. I've had positive experiences with Candice, Rachel, Remmy, Karma, Brandy, TgtbtRedhead (moved to florida, best escort ever, miss her) , Jenn, Maddee, Melea, Lexi, and so on. I think a lot of guys feel pressure to give girls good reviews, or at least decent ones, in order to avoid conflict. I speak my mind on everyone I see, hopefully some people appreciate that. It may intimidate some providers to see me, I guess, if they see me posting negative reviews of some girls. The reality is, as long as communication is easy and they hold an appointment, the girl looks like her photos, pretends to enjoy herself, and doesn't text me randomly begging for me to see them, then they are going to get a good review. Unfortunately, many girls fail at one or all of the above. Maybe they had an off-day, well that's their problem, because if the provider isn't any good I'm not going to go see them again, first impressions will make or break a business relationship. I actually consider myself pretty lenient in my reviews, you've got to really fuck up in order to get a bad review, but many providers are trash, its the nature of what we do.[/QUOTE]Are you referring to Charming Blake? I'm planning a trip to Cincy to see her before the end of the year.

[QUOTE=Ron M;1887695]Are you referring to Charming Blake? I'm planning a trip to Cincy to see her before the end of the year.[/QUOTE]A provider has to do something really bad to get a negative review? I'm sorry? We've never met, as I recall you left me high and dry and We are not trash, I'm speaking on all of the provider's behalf.

Good luck & stay safe,

Blake

[QUOTE=Briant2;1887666]Maybe they had an off-day, well that's their problem, because if the provider isn't any good I'm not going to go see them again, first impressions will make or break a business relationship. I actually consider myself pretty lenient in my reviews, you've got to really fuck up in order to get a bad review, but many providers are trash, its the nature of what we do.[/QUOTE]Brian, I do not normally get involved in board drama, and most who have seen me will tell you that, but I do feel saying providers are trash is a bit much. Yes, I will agree there are some out there who belong on the streets more than trying to provide a quality escort experience, but to use term trash, makes me wonder if when you visit a provider if you see her as a human being or an outlet for your relief? I have met several ladies on this board and can honestly say all of them carried their self as just that a "lady".

If you are in true belief many providers are trash maybe you need to check the ones you have seen and change that criteria and maybe ya won't come across as much trash in the long run. IMHO

I have seen 3 or 4 providers who I would consider "trash." As in horsed out deadlays who are doing nothing but feeding their addictions. That is my definition of trash. Blake, we never met, and we never will meet, because you no-showed for an appointment and acted like an ass the second time I tried to schedule. SD, the type of guy I am is one who calls people on their bullshit. I don't really care if other providers see what I post and decide not to see me based on that, because most likely that means they aren't any good, and there are plenty here already who know me and know I treat them very well. Anyways, I don't really have anything else to say about this, so you guys can continue to circlejerk about it amongst yourselves for a while if you like.

[QUOTE=Briant2;1888554]I have seen 3 or 4 providers who I would consider "trash." As in horsed out deadlays who are doing nothing but feeding their addictions. That is my definition of trash. Blake, we never met, and we never will meet, because you no-showed for an appointment and acted like an ass the second time I tried to schedule. SD, the type of guy I am is one who calls people on their bullshit. I don't really care if other providers see what I post and decide not to see me based on that, because most likely that means they aren't any good, and there are plenty here already who know me and know I treat them very well. Anyways, I don't really have anything else to say about this, so you guys can continue to circlejerk about it amongst yourselves for a while if you like.[/QUOTE]Being you stood me up because I asked you to grab me a soda to fill in the 2 minute delay I needed to finish getting ready being you were hanging out in the hallway before I gave you the "ok" to come up! Then texted me saying there was shady shit in the hallway (which, in my defense, was the road crew called into town for the big job here in ky) yet you clearly were only looking out for yourself and I cannot operate that way. It's a 2 way street, we have each others back. I simply stated to you that I would respectfully decline to try again in the future for that reason only. I made all of this clear the day it happened which is why it's hard for me to swallow your negative criticism towards me. Briant I can see if I had a track record of any such behavior or if I ever had "shady" things happen before but I haven't. I worked hard, still continue to work hard for positive review's for my viewer's to fall back on so they can be certain of my signature plus reputation. Nobody is "circle jerking" amongst themselves? This is me and you and my right to defend myself from false allegation's!

If I offended you in any way, I apologize. But I stick to my gun's when it comes to working as a team and clearly you were not. Thank you for your time.

Take care, Blake

[QUOTE=Selective69; 1886681]I had an interesting exchange this morning with Ms. Cassidy. I know several of you have expressed interest in seeing her, including myself but after what happened this morning I would urge anyone who does not see women on drugs then stay far far away from her. I am no expert on street language (thank God for that) but she sent me a text, obviously not intended for me seeking to score $20 worth of "boy".

If I am mistaken about what "boy" is, then I delete this post immediately, but I am afraid I am not mistaken.

PM with questions or corrections[/QUOTE]First of all let me Start off by saying This Is A Bold Faced Lie!

I do not use drugs at all.

I bet any thing this is a girl named Saige's customers.

Saige is a chick I met in Maryland and we hit it off right away well while I was here visiting and deciding to stay in my home town The Queen City she and her boyfriend came to the Cincy area visiting his family considering she was on tour she still continued to work. We decided it would be easier and cheaper if we roomed together and sometimes worked together. We were rooming together about 2 weeks, she had an appt so I decided while she was working I would go and visit my family. I let her know what I was doing, so she would know and not worry. Well I intended on being gone until night time so her boyfriend and her had some alone time. Well I got back earlier than expected and naturally I walked in as you would if you were living in a hotel and to my amazement her bf and her were holed up in the bathroom I kept asking "whats going on why are you both in that little bathroom?" so I finally was able to get in the bathroom and low and behold I saw her with a needle in her arm and her boyfriend sitting on the edge of the tub smoking a weed cigarette. So I turned around and proceeded to pack my belongings left the room went to the front desk took my name off of the room and went outside to waitr on my dad to come back and get me and my baby. BC the entire 5 to 10 mins I was there in the room I had my 1 yr old infant in my arms.

To me my children are way to important to involve myself or associate with anyone who is doing drugs or involved with drugs. I have 3 children who depend only on me bc thier dadddys are total poop heads. That does not help me at all. It is bad enough what Iam doing to support them let alone do what Iam doing and do drugs Hell No I won't Go!

I will not ever do drugs if I wanted to do drugs I would not have kids period.

I Love the 3 of my children way too much to screw around with any sort of drugs. I will not even take prescribed narcotics ie. Vicoden, percocet, valium, xanex, etc.

My childrens lives are way to important to me than anything of that nature.

It is said I was inquiring about a '20 of boy' I would much rather take that $20 and goto walmart or a dollar store and let my kids pick out thier own things. Straight up I take any extra money after paying the bills and making sure my children have what they need and I get them what they want!

So Sorry Selective69 what you are saying is a down right lie! I do not know you never have ever even talked to you and after this I never will.

So to all who has read this post of his It Is A Bold Faced Lie & Not True On Any Level

[QUOTE=HelpMeRhonda; 1888201]Brian, I do not normally get involved in board drama, and most who have seen me will tell you that, but I do feel saying providers are trash is a bit much. Yes, I will agree there are some out there who belong on the streets more than trying to provide a quality escort experience, but to use term trash, makes me wonder if when you visit a provider if you see her as a human being or an outlet for your relief? I have met several ladies on this board and can honestly say all of them carried their self as just that a "lady".

If you are in true belief many providers are trash maybe you need to check the ones you have seen and change that criteria and maybe ya won't come across as much trash in the long run. IMHO[/QUOTE]Obviously, Briant is one that thrives off the so called power and ability to publish a review and thinks that were actually scared of what he says. We aren't worried about your fucked up score board or how you rate us and judge us! Honestly, If it weren't for my safety and the screening process I would rather not know handle's cause of this right here! Quite frankly, after I verify their status I often forget their handle, being, my main focus is our time together, not the report on our time together. Wouldn't you agree?

Stay safe Chica xxxxx.

Blake

Maybe people define GFE differently than I do. My definition is Girl Friend Experience. Basically the same thing your GF would do. Kissing. DATY. BBBJ (BB is the important part and for most Cim is also ). And then CFS.

Melea does all of these things!

What is everyone else's definition of GFE?

PSE is GFE with Greek, BBFS, and over the top stuff like porn star. Facial. Acting etc. Is that what you Consider it to be?

Just curious

Men are known by how they treat women, their body hygiene, how they keep their appointments, and women by keeping their appointments, the cleanliness of their incalls and themselves and how they treat us also, Women and men in this who use have no place in this venue, nor do those who show up late, drop appointments with lame excuses, and those who use drugs nope. There are women in this you would love to take home to mother, and there are women in this you wouldn't fuck with someone elses dick just as there are men who smell so bad and are body foul you wouldn't do no matter how much they offered. IS THERE TRASH IN THE HOBBY? FUCK YES on both side so call it what it is. I have seen men on here who brag they have paid for a woman's stash or who would go back and fuck a woman who used or lived in a pig stye just because they fuck well. REALLY? That is trash on both sides. I have always said stick with the ladies with the top reputations with excellent reviews and provide quality service. You don't have to be disrespectul for calling trash trash if it is just that, TRASH. It has nothing to do with respect, but tons to do with body hygiene, using drugs, keeping a quality incall, appointments and a plethora of other things on both sides. Don't know the gentleman who started this and do know one of the ladies who has a seemingly spotless reputation until you talk to other providers who will tell you she is a user of people and her own sisters. It is what it is. This is not Alice in Wonderland this is getting what you aren't getting at home in the nicest and best way possible but observing as many niceities as you can in the process. JMO Have a good day

[QUOTE=Puntang Man;1888778]Men are known by how they treat women, their body hygiene, how they keep their appointments, and women by keeping their appointments, the cleanliness of their incalls and themselves and how they treat us also, Women and men in this who use have no place in this venue, nor do those who show up late, drop appointments with lame excuses, and those who use drugs nope. There are women in this you would love to take home to mother, and there are women in this you wouldn't fuck with someone elses dick just as there are men who smell so bad and are body foul you wouldn't do no matter how much they offered. IS THERE TRASH IN THE HOBBY? FUCK YES on both side so call it what it is. I have seen men on here who brag they have paid for a woman's stash or who would go back and fuck a woman who used or lived in a pig stye just because they fuck well. REALLY? That is trash on both sides. I have always said stick with the ladies with the top reputations with excellent reviews and provide quality service. You don't have to be disrespectul for calling trash trash if it is just that, TRASH. It has nothing to do with respect, but tons to do with body hygiene, using drugs, keeping a quality incall, appointments and a plethora of other things on both sides. Don't know the gentleman who started this and do know one of the ladies who has a seemingly spotless reputation until you talk to other providers who will tell you she is a user of people and her own sisters. It is what it is. This is not Alice in Wonderland this is getting what you aren't getting at home in the nicest and best way possible but observing as many niceities as you can in the process. JMO Have a good day[/QUOTE]There was no better way to say this than what you just did putang.

This may help get our minds back in the gutter, where they belong!

[QUOTE=CharmingBlake; 1888605]Being you stood me up because I asked you to grab me a soda to fill in the 2 minute delay I needed to finish getting ready being you were hanging out in the hallway before I gave you the "ok" to come up! Then texted me saying there was shady shit in the hallway (which, in my defense, was the road crew called into town for the big job here in ky) yet you clearly were only looking out for yourself and I cannot operate that way. It's a 2 way street, we have each others back. I simply stated to you that I would respectfully decline to try again in the future for that reason only. I made all of this clear the day it happened which is why it's hard for me to swallow your negative criticism towards me. Briant I can see if I had a track record of any such behavior or if I ever had "shady" things happen before but I haven't. I worked hard, still continue to work hard for positive review's for my viewer's to fall back on so they can be certain of my signature plus reputation. Nobody is "circle jerking" amongst themselves? This is me and you and my right to defend myself from false allegation's!

If I offended you in any way, I apologize. But I stick to my gun's when it comes to working as a team and clearly you were not. Thank you for your time.

Take care, Blake[/QUOTE]Blake you're mistaking me with someone else, and yes you have a good track record. I only posted what happened between us a while ago, many people have posted positive reviews of you. I don't know what your talking about in regards to a soda or hallway or anything, I never gave you my USA handle. When I communicated with you it was before you were on the USA guide.

[QUOTE=EloquentEven; 1888637]Maybe people define GFE differently than I do. My definition is Girl Friend Experience. Basically the same thing your GF would do. Kissing. DATY. BBBJ (BB is the important part and for most Cim is also ).

Since you say you are curious, as I am also. It is evident to me that many people have extremely different views on GFE and PSE. I am in agreement with you as far as that goes. I have asked several ladies who post both services what the difference was; meaning besides the monetary issue of $50 to $100. I have been told that GFE does not include DFK, that GFE does not include DATY, that GFE does not include BBBJ, that GFE does not include CIM, that PSE is CIM, that PSE does not include anal, etc. So what I have gathered from my non-scientific survey is that the two are just acronyms for whatever the writer means for them to be. That is why it is important that we help each other by determining exactly what an individual provider means when she states that she delivers those services. As always.

I'd like to hear others thoughts on this as well because I have personally advertised PSE but my definition is different from yours along with others.

I agree GFE is DFK, DATY, BBBJCIM & the more personal approach.

However we are all here for different reasons & I believe PSE is for those who want to live out fantasies beyond the normal things your wife / girlfriend won't do. I also believe this is the less personal approach to the hobby, for those who are just looking for "fun". They don't want to be rushed but they also want to get down to business. I agree that greek should probably be put in this definition. But it is personally not on my menu. I was unaware that BBFS comes to mind when you mention PSE, it's forbidden in my mind.

Just my thoughts.

Xoxo,

Sweet TnA

[QUOTE=EloquentEven; 1888637]Maybe people define GFE differently than I do. My definition is Girl Friend Experience. Basically the same thing your GF would do. Kissing. DATY. BBBJ (BB is the important part and for most Cim is also ). And then CFS.

Melea does all of these things!

What is everyone else's definition of GFE?

PSE is GFE with Greek, BBFS, and over the top stuff like porn star. Facial. Acting etc. Is that what you Consider it to be?

Just curious[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Sweet TnA; 1889617]I'd like to hear others thoughts on this as well because I have personally advertised PSE but my definition is different from yours along with others.

I agree GFE is DFK, DATY, BBBJCIM & the more personal approach.

However we are all here for different reasons & I believe PSE is for those who want to live out fantasies beyond the normal things your wife / girlfriend won't do. I also believe this is the less personal approach to the hobby, for those who are just looking for "fun". They don't want to be rushed but they also want to get down to business. I agree that greek should probably be put in this definition. But it is personally not on my menu. I was unaware that BBFS comes to mind when you mention PSE, it's forbidden in my mind.

Just my thoughts.

Xoxo,

Sweet TnA[/QUOTE]That is a very good question because I believe everyone has a different thought on PSE and GFE and personally I believe putang man would be the perfect one to answer this for everyone. I have always believed that GFE includes LFK, DFK, DATY, CFS some may do BBFS, not an option for most on here and PSE includes all the above plus CIM, COF, lots of foreplay, acting, action and so on. Just like a porn movie. There is a big difference in both as where GFE becomes more of a real girlfriend experience with lots of light touching and more intamency and PSE is getting straight to the point, F*ck like wild animals and have the whole menu open including Greek. This was always my thought in the difference in the two. But I would definately like to know everyone else's thoughts also.

I don't mind GFE myself because I am actually more pleasured by it but I have never advertised PSE due to the Greek and the aggressive part because some want it really rough. I would also love to hear more providers and hobbyist thoughts too.

If a man asks tell him straight away. GFE is Girlfriend experience but REALLY would you keep a girlfriend who wouldn't let you fuck her without a cover, let you cim with her, wouldn't let you DATY or dfk with her or do a BJ with out a cover? Bet she wouldn't be a GF for long. PSE is straight up fucking without a cover always has been and for most guys always will be. If your wife is your GF would you do her with a cover? UH UH don't think so. Just my opinion. If you advertise PSE and a guy asks tell him what it means to you. Save a lot of BS ring around the rosey crap. If you advertise it you can talk about it, otherwise don't advertise it or tell him the best way you feel comfortable to clear up conceptions. The women in this who tell you they will discuss it when you get there, YGBFKM. Drive all that way to find out what she meant isn't what guys were looking for. I admire the lady for trying to clear the air on this but anyone who tells a client that PSE isn't bbk is only deluding herself. It is all about service and meeting each others needs and there is a huge availability of quality ladies in all categories who are willing to ride you make you smile, use diaphrams, the pill, and other BC devices. It is all about finding your categories and finding everyones comfort level. You find your own comfort level Sweet T and stick with it. You are doing the right thing by setting your parameters and asking questions. It has been said many times on here we are here because we are looking for what we aren't getting at home the way we want and need it. Enjoy the week and good question STNA

I thought it meant you get to treat them like a dirty little **** and spooge on their face. With respect and consent of course as always, just nasty, dirty, sweaty, monkey sex with a messy ending. If they can figure out how to keep their make up from getting fucked up to present a better target, bonus points!

Mis dos,

A2

[QUOTE=Waltmore; 1889548]

[QUOTE=EloquentEven; 1888637]Maybe people define GFE differently than I do. My definition is Girl Friend Experience. Basically the same thing your GF would do. Kissing. DATY. BBBJ (BB is the important part and for most Cim is also ).[/QUOTE]Since you say you are curious, as I am also. It is evident to me that many people have extremely different views on GFE and PSE. I am in agreement with you as far as that goes. I have asked several ladies who post both services what the difference was; meaning besides the monetary issue of $50 to $100. I have been told that GFE does not include DFK, that GFE does not include DATY, that GFE does not include BBBJ, that GFE does not include CIM, that PSE is CIM, that PSE does not include anal, etc. So what I have gathered from my non-scientific survey is that the two are just acronyms for whatever the writer means for them to be. That is why it is important that we help each other by determining exactly what an individual provider means when she states that she delivers those services. As always.[/QUOTE]I wondered where you've been Waltmore. Glad to see you're still around.

[QUOTE=Puntang Man;1889783]If a man asks tell him straight away. GFE is Girlfriend experience but REALLY would you keep a girlfriend who wouldn't let you fuck her without a cover, let you cim with her, wouldn't let you DATY or dfk with her or do a BJ with out a cover? Bet she wouldn't be a GF for long. PSE is straight up fucking without a cover always has been and for most guys always will be. If your wife is your GF would you do her with a cover? UH UH don't think so. Just my opinion. If you advertise PSE and a guy asks tell him what it means to you. Save a lot of BS ring around the rosey crap. If you advertise it you can talk about it, otherwise don't advertise it or tell him the best way you feel comfortable to clear up conceptions. The women in this who tell you they will discuss it when you get there, YGBFKM. Drive all that way to find out what she meant isn't what guys were looking for. I admire the lady for trying to clear the air on this but anyone who tells a client that PSE isn't bbk is only deluding herself. It is all about service and meeting each others needs and there is a huge availability of quality ladies in all categories who are willing to ride you make you smile, use diaphrams, the pill, and other BC devices. It is all about finding your categories and finding everyones comfort level. You find your own comfort level Sweet T and stick with it. You are doing the right thing by setting your parameters and asking questions. It has been said many times on here we are here because we are looking for what we aren't getting at home the way we want and need it. Enjoy the week and good question STNA[/QUOTE]Pse

Porn Star Experience. A term used to describe a sexual encouter where the partner exibited certain porn-like characteristics. Usually including such things as: Talking Dirty, CIM (cum in mouth) , a general knowledge of sexual positions and willingness to sexually please.

I hope this helps! Blake

[QUOTE=Briant2;1889475]Blake you're mistaking me with someone else, and yes you have a good track record. I only posted what happened between us a while ago, many people have posted positive reviews of you. I don't know what your talking about in regards to a soda or hallway or anything, I never gave you my USA handle. When I communicated with you it was before you were on the USA guide.[/QUOTE]This is silly and I hate arguing thus is why I stay single. Let's wash our hands please and both move forward. Have a great day!

-Blake

I like your thinking A2!

[QUOTE=Admin2; 1889965]I thought it meant you get to treat them like a dirty little * and spooge on their face. With respect and consent of course as always, just nasty, dirty, sweaty, monkey sex with a messy ending. If they can figure out how to keep their make up from getting fucked up to present a better target, bonus points!

Mis dos,

A2[/QUOTE]

[b]PSE has ALWAYS meant Porn Star Experience. [/b]

That means:

1) They actually are a porn star (even a minor Bang Brother etc) like Becca Blossoms, Sydney Thomas (a local porn star), Ginger Lee, Gracie Glam, Tory Lane, Phoenix Marie, etc, all of which I have seen. They often will give you a parting gift such as an autographed video, shirt or panties. You tend to pay a premium for seeing these so-called celebrities, but understand full well, all you are paying for is this celebrity status. I have been fucked far better by regular providers than these so-called pros, but sometimes the fantasy is pretty fun and as A2 has pointed out we all would crawl on broken glass and cash out our investments to fuck Jenna Jameson. Some of these celebs will allow you to video this (I have two) provided you sign an official waiver not to attempt to market or sell it in any form or fashion without paying them a royalty from the sales.

2) When a provider that does not actually have a film or video that has been distributed professionally advertises that she offers PSE, the general rule of thumb is that you get to make a video of your time to together including the all important money shot. I have six such video encounters, paid an extra $100 each time, and they remain locked in my private safe and used for my personal enjoyment. Simply claiming they will act like a porn star is ridiculous and any provider that claims otherwise is full of shit, because that is not the hobby standard. Essentially it is just a way to milk an extra $50 to $100 out of you. It should also be noted that recently that this term has become code for "I offer bareback." Now I don't want to start some shitstorm over this issue, I just want to be sure hobbyists and providers are informed, and are clear with one another about this possible use of the term.

[b]GFE has ALWAYS meant Girl Friend Experience. [/b] This can be a subjective (unlike above) definition, but generally it means that there is an illusion of passion. It means there is a bit of romance or sensuality involved-things that remind you of being with one of the best girlfriends you could ever expect. Some of the activities that may be anticipated include:

Conversation, flirtation, caressing, massage, digits, light and even deep French kissing, DATY, BBBJ (sorry but CBJ is a deal breaker-girlfriends don't ask you to where a rubber when they go down on you, anymore than they would like you to cover their pussy with Saran Wrap before going down on them) , CIM (swallow if they like it, dribble it out on their chin if they don't) CFS, cuddling, etc. There are other things that may be included such as anal, fantasy role play, and fetishes etc, but like with actual girlfriends, this is usually discussed over time and once trust is established the menu may become fluid.

-PD

Not doubting you PD but I always thought GFE was sweet and PSE was nasty with COF. I admit I'm a fucking amateur when it comes to mongering in the states though. Shit I would rob fucking banks to get a shot at JJ. Even more so Tawney Roberts. (I'm actually holding my hand over my heart at just the mention of her name)

In my book for reals PSE always includes backdoor action. But none of it includes BB beyond a blowjob.

A2

[QUOTE=Admin2; 1890265]Not doubting you PD but I always thought GFE was sweet and PSE was nasty with COF. I admit I'm a fucking amateur when it comes to mongering in the states though. Shit I would rob fucking banks to get a shot at JJ. Even more so Tawney Roberts. (I'm actually holding my hand over my heart at just the mention of her name)

In my book for reals PSE always includes backdoor action. But none of it includes BB beyond a blowjob.

A2[/QUOTE]The keyword in PSE is PORN. If there ain't a video involved, or a porn actress being fucked, it isn't PSE.

While there was controversy on the board at times while PD was gone, it was usually handled in a few words. Now something simple like PSE is resulting in long protracted messages from PD. Sigh! Welcome back PD.