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Both the latina MILF and the young hottie gave me BB without even flinching. Ms MILF grabs my manhood and guides it in everytime and the blonde hottie jumps on like its a hippity hop.
[QUOTE=Venator;2909676]Both the latina MILF and the young hottie gave me BB without even flinching. Ms MILF grabs my manhood and guides it in everytime and the blonde hottie jumps on like its a hippity hop.[/QUOTE]Most girls don't really like condoms either. On a side note I can see the urgency rising on SA. I am getting hit up more than usual and the girls seem to be more reasonable. I still haven't met anyone new, but I have a few POTS that are starting to look interesting. In the past I never put much effort into the hesitant ones. Now I am engaging in some deeper and longer convos, at their request. So we"ll see. But if I don't get something going soon, I am going to hit up some lower hanging fruit.
[QUOTE=Venator;2909676]Both the latina MILF and the young hottie gave me BB without even flinching. Ms MILF grabs my manhood and guides it in everytime and the blonde hottie jumps on like its a hippity hop.[/QUOTE]From memory, I've had sex with 8 girls from SA. 3 were uncovered, no questions asked (one of them wanted me to cum inside of her too). 3 were covered the first time, uncovered subsequent times. 1 needed a little prodding to go bare. 1 was covered and the sex was so bad (regardless of condom or not) that I never called her again.
Of course it's risky behavior, but I've never tested positive for anything (which of course reinforces risky behavior).
What category of girls would you consider as low hanging fruits? Semi-pros / UTRs? Or those not in demand?
[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;2910765]Most girls don't really like condoms either. On a side note I can see the urgency rising on SA. I am getting hit up more than usual and the girls seem to be more reasonable. I still haven't met anyone new, but I have a few POTS that are starting to look interesting. In the past I never put much effort into the hesitant ones. Now I am engaging in some deeper and longer convos, at their request. So we"ll see. But if I don't get something going soon, I am going to hit up some lower hanging fruit.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Lebruno;2911209]What category of girls would you consider as low hanging fruits? Semi-pros / UTRs? Or those not in demand?[/QUOTE]Girls with a BMI of 22-24 (meaning they are 10+ lbs overweight). Girls over 22. Girls that admit to being active UTR's. But if they are UTR then they would have to be pretty hot, and many are.
So a girl over 22 that's a little overweight and a UTR?. Thats a slam dunk for sure. LOL. I doubt I would have to go there, but if I thought they had awesome skills, I could be persuaded. Maybe.
[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;2912287]Girls with a BMI of 22-24 (meaning they are 10+ lbs overweight). Girls over 22. Girls that admit to being active UTR's. But if they are UTR then they would have to be pretty hot, and many are.
So a girl over 22 that's a little overweight and a UTR?. Thats a slam dunk for sure. LOL. I doubt I would have to go there, but if I thought they had awesome skills, I could be persuaded. Maybe.[/QUOTE]How and what questions do you ask to find out if someone is a UTR? What are the pros and cons of going with a UTR?
Talked to a girl on SA in Feb. She quoted $500 per meet, so I said good luck.
I texted her yesterday to see if she changed her mind. Still $500. So I countered.
With $250 and for the same night. At first she said yes, but later changed her mind.
This is what she said, "I am a passionate lover. It's no point in me acting like I am interested.
You are giving me only half of what I asked. So yea, don't want to do it. Sorry".
She is a hot 26 year old black girl with huge tits and athletic body. Definitely more attractive than most.
I saw on this thread. But $500. ? Oh well, there must be some guys that pay that much.
Since she was very firm. Wished her good luck.
[QUOTE=SupDaddy;2913049]How and what questions do you ask to find out if someone is a UTR? What are the pros and cons of going with a UTR?[/QUOTE]You need to do some serious reading on this site. Like read about a 1,000 posts. No bs.
Silly question.
Is it worth it to pay $70 for premium access to SA?
I think that's the only way to use that site as it opens up the messaging app.
Do you guys recommend any other sites and no CL or BP?
[QUOTE=Socalimp;2913578]Silly question.
Is it worth it to pay $70 for premium access to SA?
I think that's the only way to use that site as it opens up the messaging app.
Do you guys recommend any other sites and no CL or BP?[/QUOTE]Been off the grid a bit as I re-upped on SA. I guess practice makes perfect. Met with 4 new POTs, already banged one with plans to repeat, going to bang 2 more of them this week. Saw the one from AF again this week and saw my 2 priors again (a few times? Have firmed up numbers with another if I can find the time and am working on 3 more! Any of you math majors can figure out how many that is but all I know is that I think I could see 2/ week and not repeat in a month if I had the time and funds. All but one is at 100/ with her at 140 but she, along with 2 of the others, can host at her place so no hotel costs.
Been cursed at or laughed at for my budget. But, seriously, like I care?! I'm actually having to put off my originals ("busy with work!
I really have gotten in a groove and see no reason to renew at the end of the 30 days. Granted, they are all 6's and 7's but screw my brains out on my weak a $$ budget.
So, does it work? Hmmmmmm. Your call.
[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;2910765]On a side note I can see the urgency rising on SA. I am getting hit up more than usual and the girls seem to be more reasonable[/QUOTE]This is no joke, I have at least one or two basically "cold-calling" my inbox trying to fish for a or some new daddies. I take them with a grain of salt though and usually do some messaging back and forth to get a feel. For the most part its girls who just straight up just want $ for fun with no connection felt or wanted or broads that live 1 or 2 states over. WTF? Its funny, at the beginning I couldn't get anyone to respond. Now its like "how do you get them' to stop?" Hahaha!
I am definitely in a slump. My UTR got pregnant. My church girl says her dad is suspicious to the point of threatening to cut her off if she sees me again. And I have been with my atf for goin on 18 months. She is great in bed but the sugar creep has set in. I hate to back her down. But I have no choice. I got flaked on today (by a UTR). It doesn't get any worse than that. At the moment I had to settle for a no sex no sugar date with a model. She is my new friend. We just hang out and talk. Can't even get a HJ from this girl. I am sure she wishes I was gay. LOL. Money is definitely an issue. I mostly hit up hot girls. But they are all saying no way these days. I guess if I drop my frequency I can raise the ante. Or like the guy just posted recently, just go after 6's.
An just now I pissed off my atf. Maybe I should just ditch her and start over from scratch. I am tired of the same old same old.
[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;2914748]I am definitely in a slump. My UTR got pregnant. My church girl says her dad is suspicious to the point of threatening to cut her off if she sees me again. And I have been with my atf for goin on 18 months. She is great in bed but the sugar creep has set in. I hate to back her down. But I have no choice. I got flaked on today (by a UTR). It doesn't get any worse than that. At the moment I had to settle for a no sex no sugar date with a model. She is my new friend. We just hang out and talk. Can't even get a HJ from this girl. I am sure she wishes I was gay. LOL. Money is definitely an issue. I mostly hit up hot girls. But they are all saying no way these days. I guess if I drop my frequency I can raise the ante. Or like the guy just posted recently, just go after 6's.
An just now I pissed off my atf. Maybe I should just ditch her and start over from scratch. I am tired of the same old same old.[/QUOTE]I empathize. My little cutie suddenly got offended when I suggested FC and she was like "Well that's going to be more money. A lot more for sex. " She's blown me twice now and somehow that isn't sex. She very petite and I have a feeling that pussy would be awesome. She hasn't texted me in a couple days. She went radio silent after I tried to convince her that the other experience have merit also. The model comes back this week and wants hx prices to stay interested. I would be willing to do it for a couple FC's with her as she is a very hot girl. So it's one or the other.
[QUOTE=LargeEss;2914969]I empathize. My little cutie suddenly got offended when I suggested FC and she was like "Well that's going to be more money. A lot more for sex. " She's blown me twice now and somehow that isn't sex. She very petite and I have a feeling that pussy would be awesome. She hasn't texted me in a couple days. She went radio silent after I tried to convince her that the other experience have merit also. The model comes back this week and wants hx prices to stay interested. I would be willing to do it for a couple FC's with her as she is a very hot girl. So it's one or the other.[/QUOTE]I spent the day at home. So I got a chance to message a few girls and got a couple of nibbles. Supposed to do an M&G for lunch today with an 18 year old from an upscale black neighborhood. She seems more the curious type. They have to either be curious or desperate (or both) to take a $. And certainly the curious ones are the most fun.
That Google docs spreadsheet I created is a life saver. I can keep track of names, handles, $$ they want, personal info about them to endear myself to them so they think I am paying attention (Kids, things they like, etc). Also has allowed me to re-contact during slow periods.
I am telling the women that my premium is ending in a week (true) so please contact me via email and text. BOOM! Now I have their contact info after I can't message anymore.
Having fun! Oh, even had fun with this airhead bikini dancer. She got all butt hurt at my $ and said I should cruise the streets for hookers. I said that they must be a hooker if they only want $ but what do you call them if they want $$ And f'ed with her when she called me desperate. Oh, you mean like you who shakes her tits for singles?? Because the women on here are all completely financially solvent, right?? What a dumb *****!
LOL. Never looked at this from a bmi perspective. Very interesting. I'm sure you've calibrated your formula after a lot of case studies. I'll conduct some experimenting myself. Thanks.
[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;2912287]Girls with a BMI of 22-24 (meaning they are 10+ lbs overweight). Girls over 22. Girls that admit to being active UTR's. But if they are UTR then they would have to be pretty hot, and many are.
So a girl over 22 that's a little overweight and a UTR?. Thats a slam dunk for sure. LOL. I doubt I would have to go there, but if I thought they had awesome skills, I could be persuaded. Maybe.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Lebruno;2916118]LOL. Never looked at this from a bmi perspective. Very interesting. I'm sure you've calibrated your formula after a lot of case studies. I'll conduct some experimenting myself. Thanks.[/QUOTE]I like statistics, and I like to see what works. If I look at all the girls I really connected with in a significant way over the last number of years they definitely all have a few things in common. BMI is one of them. Or to put it in simple terms they are on the slender side.
So the pendulum swung both ways this week. First I sent .3 to a eighteen year old UTR for uber fare and she robbed me. Glad I didn't drive the 40 miles to see her. Who knows what would have happened. Then I get a txt a couple of days a go from another 18 year old and she wants to know if she could uber over right now. Normally I would have said no as it was already midnite, but I said ok. So seven dollars and ten minutes later she arrived. I agreed to a no sex no money date before she left, but she ended up spending the night.
Not much happened except me getting her to cum once with some OTC rubbing. We cuddle all night and I sent her on her way the next day at noon. Total sugar asked for and spent was zero. She has been semi non stop txting me ever since. Just a normal college student other than her deep daddy needs. Deep enough to keep the sugar at a bare minimum. She says all her friends go for top dollar and will date anyone willing to pay it. But due to her daddy issues she is more interested in the connection than the collection. Hope to see her again next weekend.
So my church girl officially called it quits today. I had advanced her some cash a couple months ago, more than I knew she would ever make good on. After hitting me up today for another advance and then me saying no, it didn't take long for her to say goodbye. If you ever want to get rid of an SB (or anyone for that matter), just let them bite off more than they can chew.
The only girl I have ever met in the 10? Years of sugaring that has made good on her advances is my current ATF. Probably why she is still around after 20 months. So officially I am down to her and that's about it. My biggest problem lately is distance. I am just not willing to drive around like I used to.
Been a dry time for me and last night I made a mistake only the greenest rookie would be guilty of. The model wouldn't budge on 250.00 and then wanted a guaranteed allowance. The petite dancer got pissed when I wouldn't up my ante for FC. Last night I was PM-ing with a Caucasian 39 year old who was ready to go. That lead to texting, which lead to talking on the phone and she had a killer sexy voice. Her body didn't look too promising in the pics but she wanted to come over and then I goofed a bit by bringing up finances. It totally threw her but I was able to get her calm by not discussing it any further, (do you see where this might be going?) She was high and a little drunk. She comes over and she is tall and solid but has a GREAT rack. She was very nervous. This is her first time doing this with the money and such she says. I have no reason to not believe her other than years of pessimism. She's still really flighty. I tell her I would rather give her experience than cash and she agrees but she then list a facial and mani-pedi etc. Which will end up being three times what I usually pay for Fc and there is no way at 12:0 I am going to be up for that.
I hate haggling. I can do it best through writing and okay over the phone but in person, I hate it, and I don't find it productive. She's already a bit unpredictable. So I say fine because I really need my cock sucked after a shitty, shitty week. She is a good kisser but doesn't care for my beard. She has fantastic tits. Beautiful creamy 36 C or D breasts with perfectly sized erect nipples. Her pussy is beautiful too with a nice little landing strip. I go down on her and she is in heaven. I make her cum a couple times and then she goes down on me and she is good. Deep throating and slurping. We rest for a bit and repeat two more times. She really wants me to fuck her and is willing to bb but for a price and I am not going any further into my wallet, plus I am too damn tired at two in the morning. She has an awesome big round ass as well. I finger fuck her and slip in a third finger and she goes berserk with pleasure.
About two thirty we finish up and I uber her home. This morning she sent me the links to the things she wanted and I buy the gift cards. I text her and tell her that I will honor what I agreed to but usually I have a different price point. I can't tell if she is cool with it or not but she was obviously happy with the gifts. My price point with her would be a bit higher given her background and I would be fine with that if she is. It's fun to have a sexual dynamo in the sack. It was a stupid mistake but its over and done. Today I emailed a ton more and let some that I have been corresponding with know the meet price. Time to cull the crop.
I decided to take a little of my own advice. So after dropping off my ATF I went to see a milfy 40 year old. A carmel colored super girly girl. We did the M&G in the car and had a hot makeout session with lots of touching for about an hour. It was a perfect nitecap. A BJ would have made it even better but it wasn't to be had. I happily settled for the grope-athon. Zero sugar and all fun.
I had nothing going on, and I am trying to get back in the saddle. So I made date number two with the MILF from last night who is a utr that's down on her luck. I knew she gave me a free ride last night because she was lonely and hoping to get me interested, so I figured I would get another bite at the apple. This time I came prepared. Lube, baby wipes and some tissue. Same as before, picked her up, found a quiet spot, made out a bit and got a HJ. I kept my mouth shut just to see what would happen and forced her to ask for it. Gave her .4 for her time when she did. I didn't really feel bad about it. I doubt I will ever see her again. But she is an ace in the hole if I need her and a good kisser.
Hoping for a fun holiday weekend with my new freshman. She sounds excited, asking what should she wear to make me happy. It's a good sign.
Baby wipes and tissues. Don't they both serve the same purpose?
[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;2929245]I had nothing going on, and I am trying to get back in the saddle. So I made date number two with the MILF from last night who is a utr that's down on her luck. I knew she gave me a free ride last night because she was lonely and hoping to get me interested, so I figured I would get another bite at the apple. This time I came prepared. Lube, baby wipes and some tissue. [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Lebruno;2930508]Baby wipes and tissues. Don't they both serve the same purpose?[/QUOTE]Not really, wipes first, then dry paper anything (to stay dry).
LoveAmaya $$$ per date plus normal dating expenses and transportation. I got to start making more money.
I found a real middle eastern beauty on SA a couple days ago. Took the conversation to texting and with some minor sleuthing I was able to find that this girl has a completely loaded BF. The guy even bought her a car for her birthday. Frankly nothing I can compete with so I don't even know how to proceed. I wonder what she's even doing on SA.
I hope everyone here uses phone or texting apps. Its amazing how much info you can find from a number.
Thank god for my ATF. Knowing I have a steady 2 dates a week keeps me from just chasing any old girl (almost). We had our usual Friday night date yesterday but then decided to see each other again today. So she got here at 6 and stayed till 8. Even after all this time (closing in on 150 trips to the FC) we still had one of our better nites tonite. And the last two months she finally got back on budget ($.5 per date including the .4 for the uber).
I had also planned to see my new freshman sometime tonite as well, so i was a little worried about being up for it. Luckily she got busy and didn't get here until almost midnite. I needed the full 4 hours to recoup. This was only our second date. But it was a hot one. She walked in the door and within 60 seconds she was on the couch and the games began. Before I ever met her she confided in me that on a 1 to 10 basis her daddy issues were a 10. The last time I met a girl like her it was exactly the same. In six months of dating that girl the sugar came to zero. And so far the same is true with this one, two dates and zero sugar. She is a pretty 18 year old from an upscale neighborhood on the west side, with a 4.0 GPA at a local respectable college. Since she lives kinda far the uber bill was about .4 round trip (pool), but that was it.
She said she wanted her nails done soon. So that could be as much as a $ for acrylics. But by then we will have had three or four dates. I am sure she will ask for a few dollars here and there, but she is obviously not in any real financial need. Its basically like low maintenance civi dating. Tonite she had to rush off somewhere, so she just came over, played with her Daddy and left an hour later. Next weekend she said she wants to stay overnite again, watch a movie and cuddle. These types don't come around too often.
[QUOTE=GenevaGuy;2932929]Finally. Last 3 girls that I met don't really kiss much. They love to cuddle up after sex. And kiss a bit, yes yes, I am sure my breath is fresh and clean, brush teeth and mouthwash beforehand, I don't smoke or drink alcohol, and don't eat funny foods (ok is pussy a funny food?
GG.[/QUOTE]I consider pussy the 6th major food group.
SORRY. BETTER ME DOING IT THAN THE ADMIN. HWG.
As usual, I enjoy the LA SD / SB board. Met up yesterday with a new 21 year old blond, a bit bigger than my liking, but she had a GF that let us use her place and I was horny so good opportunity for me to drain a big load of semen deep into her pussy. I'm sure this will be a one time thing as I said not my usual type.
Also. Do you guys find that all these girls shave? I'm shocked hehehe. Actually I prefer a bit of hair on a pussy!
Finally. Last 3 girls that I met don't really kiss much. They love to cuddle up after sex. And kiss a bit, yes yes, I am sure my breath is fresh and clean, brush teeth and mouthwash beforehand, I don't smoke or drink alcohol, and don't eat funny foods (ok is pussy a funny food?
GG.
OK, I am totally captivated by all of this, and need to have my bubble popped before I go crazy. You guys succeeding with SD scenes are 30's, 40's, yes? I am a long-time monger but 60 - there's no action for us, yes? I am in OC as well. Recommendations are welcome.
[QUOTE=DavidTheSancho;2932761]
I hope everyone here uses phone or texting apps. Its amazing how much info you can find from a number.[/QUOTE]Besides Google and Facebook, what other apps and tools do you use to look up phone numbers for info?
Feel free to me PM. Thanks.
[QUOTE=Smokarz_XO;2933382]Besides Google and Facebook, what other apps and tools do you use to look up phone numbers for info?
[/QUOTE]Install social media / messaging apps like WhatsApp, Line, Kik, Snapchat, etc. If they give you their main phone number (and most people aren't savvy enough to use a burner app or secondary line), their account should pop up if they use these apps. Should give you more pics and sometimes useful info like their usual username. For example -- girl pops up on Kik after you save her number into your phone. Her Kik username is something like 'bellaxoxo'. You search 'bellaxoxo' on other apps like instagram, facebook, etc. And lo and behold, you find even more information and pics.
Also, reverse searching profile pics with google image search or tineye can yield results as well.
BTW Smokarz, your inbox is full.
[QUOTE=DocOck;2933396]Install social media / messaging apps like WhatsApp, Line, Kik, Snapchat, etc. If they give you their main phone number (and most people aren't savvy enough to use a burner app or secondary line), their account should pop up if they use these apps. Should give you more pics and sometimes useful info like their usual username. For example -- girl pops up on Kik after you save her number into your phone. Her Kik username is something like 'bellaxoxo'. You search 'bellaxoxo' on other apps like instagram, facebook, etc. And lo and behold, you find even more information and pics.
Also, reverse searching profile pics with google image search or tineye can yield results as well.
BTW Smokarz, your inbox is full.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the tips, unfortunately I can't install all those apps. Married dude that need to keep things under the radar.
BTW, just cleared my inbox.
[QUOTE=FarFarAway;2933336]OK, I am totally captivated by all of this, and need to have my bubble popped before I go crazy. You guys succeeding with SD scenes are 30's, 40's, yes? I am a long-time monger but 60 - there's no action for us, yes? I am in OC as well. Recommendations are welcome.[/QUOTE]I,m over 60. Try anaheim, santa ana, lots of places. Especially anaheim it seems. Long beach if you can make it.
[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;2933513]I,m over 60. Try anaheim, santa ana, lots of places. Especially anaheim it seems. Long beach if you can make it.[/QUOTE]And SA is the go-to site, still? I have read through a lot of the newbie posts but some of them are years old.
[QUOTE=FarFarAway;2933612]And SA is the go-to site, still? I have read through a lot of the newbie posts but some of them are years old.[/QUOTE]Yes, and try orange too. I mean the OC is no different than LA as far as I can see.
[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;2933875]Yes, and try orange too. I mean the OC is no different than LA as far as I can see.[/QUOTE]Thanks a million. I got my account on SA, but can't figure out how to get Premier without giving up personal info. They want name, address etc. To use a credit card. I get that I can buy a prepaid card, but that other info - !?
Hi, all. I have benefited greatly from reading through your posts, and hope to make a contribution to you. I have almost always been extremely careful about my online presence, as my SO is a suspicious type (ex cheated on her in a particularly vicious way, and she has suspected me of 10000 of the last 5 times I stepped out on her). Anyway, I only ever use the Tor web browser, and I don't have it on my actual computer. It's on a thumb drive. I also use its private windows, so it never stores anything (history, cookies, bookmarks) on my machine. I have checked. My SO isn't savvy enough to find such files, but if she took my computer to a geek they could likely find them if they were there. Anyway, Tor maintains your anonymity by bouncing your IP address around the world a few times. I am amazed when I get a notice on a site that says I am logged in from Kazakhstan. There are many sites that track your IP address, and unless you are logging in from an internet cafe, they will always have some knowledge of you. I make it a practice to NEVER use anything other than Tor when I am accessing illicit sites. Using a regular web browser just once potentially exposes you. I also use Hushmail. They don't track you and the service is free so long as you log in once every three weeks. I know you don't get those goodies that other free email provides, but keeping my ass out of a sling and a courtroom is pretty important, too. I do log into Hushmail using Tor. It is a little slower because even at the speed of light it takes some time for your signal to get around the world.
Many years ago, I made the mistake of getting an AM account using my work email address (didn't think I would still have it now). I did get emails from the hackers asking me to do various things to keep that from getting made public. I ignored them. A little more rattling. I got noticed by the web managers at my work that my email was a log-in on their site (evidently, they accessed the hacker list and searched for anything with our domain name). They were nice enough about it, just warning us (one at a time) that the email address was on that site and if our current log-in credentials for our corporate server used anything similar to what had been used on AM, we should change them.
[QUOTE=FarFarAway;2934781]Thanks a million. I got my account on SA, but can't figure out how to get Premier without giving up personal info. They want name, address etc. To use a credit card. I get that I can buy a prepaid card, but that other info - !?[/QUOTE]You can just enter whatever you want. They don't care as long as they get their money.
[QUOTE=Smokarz_XO;2933416]Thanks for the tips, unfortunately I can't install all those apps. Married dude that need to keep things under the radar.
BTW, just cleared my inbox.[/QUOTE]For things like Facebook and Instagram, you don't actually have to download an app. With Facebook just create a dummy account, which you only access via a private browser on a desktop computer. Then with that account you can do phone and username lookups in the dummy Facebook account.
[B]VERY IMPORTANT[/B]
NEVER input a girl's name, username, or phone number while logged into your regular Facebook account. Not even just to search. Facebook tracks who you search and tries to anticipate who you might know. So sometimes the girls you search for end up in the "People you might know" list or worse, you end up in their "People you might know" and they can find out your real identity and all your relations and friends!
So Facebook and similar social networks are great ways to gather more information / photos on particular women. But you need to make sure you wear the proverbial rubber and always have protection on. And I agree with Smokers, you got to be careful about downloading apps if you're married. Many of those apps have a tendency to just tap into your contact list importing and exporting a bunch of numbers along with any profile pictures you have on a Google Plus account or something. I'd just stick to doing social network looksups in the browser since it's easier to create a controlled environment.