Ripoff Reports

[QUOTE=TimTom;3175651]A very well known and mostly reputable provider royally fucked me over last night. Sr members can pm with with requests for info and I'll expound a little more. I've seen this person in her very nice incall apt for probably 2 years now and she basically robbed me of my donation for her "time and companionship", which is basically what I got for 20 minutes until she said my time was up and time to go. This is someone who just 3 months ago would charge me a cut rate every time and go well over the 30 minutes we usually did. Never complained a minute. I asked her flat out if she was off her meds. After she started screaming and threw me out of her apartment she started texting me about how she is now a sugar baby and sometimes things will happen, and sometimes they won't. This time she "wasn't feeling it. " What a fool. Had she played to the game the way she was, I'd have gladly paid her normal rate at least once a month. She just fucked herself out of a lot of money from me and anyone else that reads this.

If anyone thinks I'm full of it on this, I have the crazy ass texts I saved to prove what she did as she started texting me after I left about how her "policies" have changed and I should read them on her post on Eccie. Anyone who's read any of my posts over the last few years, will know that I don't put anyone on blast for no good reason, and I've only left less than a handful of bad reviews. This one is one for the books.

Like I said, PM me for more details. I'm more than livid about how she totally flipped on me and stole my money.[/QUOTE]Your box is full. Please clear some to receive a PM.

Has anyone had Intel on this cutie?

[URL]http://memphis.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/freaky-australian-college-girl/19728612[/URL]

Talked to her on the phone. She does not sound Australian to me. Nor does she sound that young. Hope I am wrong.

Hope some of the longtime mongers and newbies are doing well. I have retired from the hobby yet I wanted to still let people know the dangers outside of LEO that can arise when you go down the rabbit hole far enough. Some of it has been discussed before but there are always new people so I feel in some way its still relevant for me to share. The community gave alot to me when I needed direction at the time so I wanted to give my experiences so people can know exactly "what" and what this isn't". The hobby can break you when its over if your not prepared emotionally to handle the fallout with some girls. If you know what it is beyond "just fun" you will probably be better off at the end of the day.

I wanted to start off by saying if you have a conscious in this game its going to burn you and then spit you out if your not careful. I know most of the guys who indulge are not really bad people and most people around here try to be gentlemen and show a level of respect. I have personally never been degrading to anyone but that still didn't matter in the end. That said, we all have had situations that led us to this life so I don't judge anyone who does this because I know alot of people here are true 100 percent type people in their personal life on both sides of this.

Many of us are responsible people who in the real world take care of the public good in our professional lives and have a code of honor that goes along with that which can never apply here fully. The main thing you have to understand is that in alot of these scenarios you eventually will encounter with providers is that there most likely is going to be an element of drug abuse. You will find certain providers who will string you along for more money trying to involve a romantic element to it when you have seen them long enough. When I tell you never to get romantic feelings involved its not because these girls don't deserve that. Truth be told most of them actually have boyfriends or the people they show their true selves too but you thinking they are poor little thing is going to get them more sympathy and money everytime. If you try to apply the golden rule to people here your going to find the most f'ed up set of ethics and you will destroy your self esteem in the process.

Basically what I am saying is that developing an ego in this game is the worst thing you can do. After a while of having fun with beautiful girls you are going to think somehow you are something more special than you are, I think it happens to even the best and most seasoned around here. Once you take the element of money and favors away you will see how quickly that line of thinking will mess you up coming back down to earth. Your not going to get free favors from these girls no matter how much you have done or what lengths you did to help them out of a jam. Also realize if their feeding you a line that "they could see more with you" don't believe it. I am sure there is a small chance that is true in some cases but I wouldn't even take the risk. In my days since retirement I have seen many of these girls out in public, many with dudes who are babies daddies / jobless who don't want to work or the exact opposite of what kind of guy they claimed they "go for". These girls go after true Alpha males who are dangerous so if you are a borderline laidback beta or somehow a nice guy who can't handle an element of criminal behavior longterm you better have a exit strategy as you will end up destroyed emotionally and thinking your somehow not as a good as these guys who get it for free behind the scenes. There is a Pandora's Box here and you can fully open it if your not careful or just getting out of a marriage or recently divorced. Your not going to have a white picket fence ending here.

You are also going to run into alot of sociopathic women. Either caused by this hobby, drugs, some are even born that way and they can basically thrive in this type of environment where you put a different mask on to different people. They are the type that will rip you off with out even feeling a sense of remorse. Of course I feel that these girls have a right to refuse service but this is much deeper and much more evil than some people can handle if you have seen it in person, especially if your emotionally attached and don't realize that this is the world's oldest profession and it can never be more than what it is if you have never done this sort of thing. It serves a purpose to alot of people who need it, either from being suicidal, losing a spouse or trapt in a relationship that would destroy someone financially if they left it. If you tend to let emotions get involved in the people you see then you better already know that they cannot love you "for you" no matter what you have done for them. There is a thing such as captain save a ho but there are some people, men and women alike who just like the lifestyle and have no need for a romantic relationship and will do this as long as possible. Don't ever feel bad for ignoring someone if you have to, sociopathy thrives on people with a heart but the end game will you being the one used and the other person not losing sleep at all. There is a difference between being disrespectful to a provider and declining. Learn the art of the latter. If they truly needed you they would move in with you if your single, quit the business (which will never happen anyway) and give you the most mind blowing sex everyday as long as you took care of them. Sadly this option is so rare and you would have to make 6 figures a year to even realize it and you could still get burned badly. If your a blue collar worker don't even think of the scenario as some will just steal or take what little you have left and go onto the life they really want with the person they really want to spend their free time with. I know some girls who are furnished houses by some guys and even then I've got them to admit they still don't care for them on a deep level. Your always a John if it started out that way, the most important advise I can give.

I did this for about a year and a half so I have tried to see if there is any plausible way things can end on a high note but even going to a provider then to a friendship type relationship doesn't work either. Many are just going to ask for the same things without them having to do anything or not even wanting to hang out with you in a genuine way and you will feel like a total loser then. At the end of my run that's what happened with me and I did it because I wanted to show on a human level I still look at everyone who is involved in the hobby as people and your not going to be revolutionary by doing things a different way and not knowing its simply a business at the end of the day. I would call myself nieve on some levels but I think there is an element to what I have said that might ring home to some and that's all I want.

Thanks HighTide, I definitely needed that reality check.

Peace.

Mr. Charlie.

Thank you for the advise, and story. It did NOT fall on deaf ears. Wish you the best.

[QUOTE=Sparky911;3154720]Cash and Dash, beware. Her manager will be close by at all times. Sucks.

[URL]http://memphis.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/beautiful-classy-foreign-100-real-satisfaction-guaranteed/18231270[/URL][/QUOTE]That's too bad. I saw her almost 2 years ago and she was great. I even gave her a great review on this board.

Well I got had last night. A client I saw came in and gave me a card and some candy. I thought how thoughtful. Didn't open the card. Assumed the discussed donation was in it. Wrong. After he left I opened the card and there was a pre paid visa in it. Again I thought. Odd but was sure the donation was on it. Again wrong. The card has a zero balance and has never been activated. So in others words the guy got my time for candy and a cheap card. Score! When I try to call his number it says the pinger customer can not be reached. So its a fake number also. He is not from this board. But is from Memphis. Says he's a fed ex pilot. James m So ladies. Always check cards or envelopes for the donation. Lesson hard learned by me.

[QUOTE=Manda1979;3442784]Well I got had last night. A client I saw came in and gave me a card and some candy. I thought how thoughtful. Didn't open the card. Assumed the discussed donation was in it. Wrong. After he left I opened the card and there was a pre paid visa in it. Again I thought. Odd but was sure the donation was on it. Again wrong. The card has a zero balance and has never been activated. So in others words the guy got my time for candy and a cheap card. Score! When I try to call his number it says the pinger customer can not be reached. So its a fake number also. He is not from this board. But is from Memphis. Says he's a fed ex pilot. James m So ladies. Always check cards or envelopes for the donation. Lesson hard learned by me.[/QUOTE]Sorry you got taken. There are jerks everywhere. I'm glad he is not from the board but that is little consolation for you. That's one of the reasons that I never bother to give out information from guys with zero posts. When I recommend someone, I check them out to make sure they are legit. If there is slightest doubt in my mind, I ignore the request. I ignore more than I recommend. It's getting bad out there now, both mongers and providers. It's just not the way it used to be.

Srry, that sux. I often use a prepayed card from kroger. I always include the receit that shows the amount and verifies its been activated. So look for that before you take it.

[QUOTE=Manda1979;3442784]Well I got had last night. A client I saw came in and gave me a card and some candy. I thought how thoughtful. Didn't open the card. Assumed the discussed donation was in it. Wrong. After he left I opened the card and there was a pre paid visa in it. Again I thought. Odd but was sure the donation was on it. Again wrong. The card has a zero balance and has never been activated. So in others words the guy got my time for candy and a cheap card. Score! When I try to call his number it says the pinger customer can not be reached. So its a fake number also. He is not from this board. But is from Memphis. Says he's a fed ex pilot. James m So ladies. Always check cards or envelopes for the donation. Lesson hard learned by me.[/QUOTE]

I don't know if it is true but I heard if you buy them a card or phone and the use it for business or renting a room they and it can be traced back to you they can come aftrr ypu for pimping.

I may be wrong here but cash is King. Stay safe.

[QUOTE=Ecl368;3442986]Srry, that sux. I often use a prepayed card from kroger. I always include the receit that shows the amount and verifies its been activated. So look for that before you take it.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Ecl368;3442986]Srry, that sux. I often use a prepayed card from kroger. I always include the receit that shows the amount and verifies its been activated. So look for that before you take it.[/QUOTE]Because if your going to buy pussy, might as well get 2 x fuel points while you're at it! I don't mean to offend in any way, just got cracked up thinking about spending $400 bucks at Kroger and coming home with a 12 pack of Bud Light and some Cheetos 😂.

Hammer.

At the recommendation of another provider I saw this girl a couple of years ago. Violated a cardinal rule of no money up front because of the referral, ultimately got ripped off. Her pimp / boyfriend was the enforcer. He came in and said he had a gun. I told him to go ahead and pull it. I was not afraid of his punk ass. After a sizable crowd formed outside the room due to the loud talking, I realized it was better to take my lumps than to be arrested on SW in a brawl. I had a couple of "neighborhood" friends looking for them for a while but they moved around too much to be located. Since they are all public now, the search will be easier.

Aint one to roll over, got too many friends for that. Be careful with this one. She is beautiful but has a very strong H habit. Strong enough to rob guys.

[URL]http://www.escortads.xxx/901-842-6683/?pid=24771163[/URL]

As they say in the "Bush", they gone get theirs.

[QUOTE=Concrete2;3457232]At the recommendation of another provider I saw this girl a couple of years ago. Violated a cardinal rule of no money up front because of the referral, ultimately got ripped off. Her pimp / boyfriend was the enforcer. He came in and said he had a gun. I told him to go ahead and pull it. I was not afraid of his punk ass. After a sizable crowd formed outside the room due to the loud talking, I realized it was better to take my lumps than to be arrested on SW in a brawl. I had a couple of "neighborhood" friends looking for them for a while but they moved around too much to be located. Since they are all public now, the search will be easier.

Aint one to roll over, got too many friends for that. Be careful with this one. She is beautiful but has a very strong H habit. Strong enough to rob guys.

[URL]http://www.escortads.xxx/901-842-6683/?pid=24771163[/URL]

As they say in the "Bush", they gone get theirs.[/QUOTE]I hate when anyone gets gets ripped off. Glad you found her pics, so the rest of us will know.

With an H habit and a whimpy ass Boy friend, time will catch up.

Damn, Crete. Where has the quality gone.

[QUOTE=Concrete2;3457232]At the recommendation of another provider I saw this girl a couple of years ago. Violated a cardinal rule of no money up front because of the referral, ultimately got ripped off. Her pimp / boyfriend was the enforcer. He came in and said he had a gun. I told him to go ahead and pull it. I was not afraid of his punk ass. After a sizable crowd formed outside the room due to the loud talking, I realized it was better to take my lumps than to be arrested on SW in a brawl. I had a couple of "neighborhood" friends looking for them for a while but they moved around too much to be located. Since they are all public now, the search will be easier.

Aint one to roll over, got too many friends for that. Be careful with this one. She is beautiful but has a very strong H habit. Strong enough to rob guys.

[URL]http://www.escortads.xxx/901-842-6683/?pid=24771163[/URL]

As they say in the "Bush", they gone get theirs.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the heads up. She recently caught my attention with her very recent posts. The value of this board can't be underestimated.

[QUOTE=LilPoonHunter8;2900684]Totally agree. She scammed / stole from me a couple of months back. Claimed that she wasn't the one texting me. Only offered this. Always gets paid so much more. Ask for my money back. She starts telling for boyfriend / goon 2 come and room. I hightailed it out of there. Finished dressing and hallway. As I was leaving -- stopped at front desk and told them that they had a prostitute and room so-and-so robbing people. Since then she has promised me several makeup dates. But I'm not find enuf 2 go. Shame tho. She actually is a cute girl. Just really F'ed up. Would rather steal than give a legit visit and develop a regular clientle. Stay away. Far away.

P.S. I owe why'all reviews on Julie (second visit), Stephanie (second visit), Heather (biggie girl -- especially 4 me), Snow, Sunny (been one of my UTRs 4 about a year now, and Selene. Ok -- I think that is it. Later. Happy hunting.[/QUOTE]Sorry to add to an old post. This snow bunny is scam, right? The snow bunny with rain are recommended by thesenior members.

[URL]http://memphis.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/sn0w-bunny-cutie/26493023[/URL]