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Fears strain of 'super gonorrhoea' could spread across UK. And may become untreatable.

The infection is transmitted by unprotected vaginal, oral and anal sex.

Link [URL]http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/health-news/gonorrhoea-super-strain-symptoms-what-is-it-spear-treatment-a6987816.html[/URL].

Just because this seems to be confined to the UK is no reason to be foolish.

You bros might want to think about keeping it covered just in case your provider got in bed with a Londoner on vacation here. It happens.

BBBJ just might become a thing of the past if this untreatable strain makes it over the pond to the USA.

[QUOTE=Soma6;2879179]Fears strain of 'super gonorrhoea' could spread across UK. And may become untreatable.

The infection is transmitted by unprotected vaginal, oral and anal sex.

Link [URL]http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/health-news/gonorrhoea-super-strain-symptoms-what-is-it-spear-treatment-a6987816.html[/URL].

Just because this seems to be confined to the UK is no reason to be foolish.

You bros might want to think about keeping it covered just in case your provider got in bed with a Londoner on vacation here. It happens.

BBBJ just might become a thing of the past if this untreatable strain makes it over the pond to the USA.[/QUOTE]That is interesting as I dated (FWB situation) a girl whose area of graduate research was said strain of bug. Interestingly, since it was a fwb situation we played BBFS!

But let me play devil's advocate with you for a minute? What percentage of the UK population is infected with this uneatable strain? 0. 1%, 0. 01%, 0. 001%? I note the article didn't say, as it is easier to scare people if they assume it is wide spread.

So what is the chance of a random girl hooking up with one of these people and contracting the disease? THEN what is the chance that this girl comes to your area of the world and agrees to BBFS with you? Just because something is possible (not 100% certain not to happen) doesn't mean it is likely.

Look rates of people living with the HIV bug in the USA are usually less than 2%. Switch that to women and generally it is well under 1%. But the hysteria the government created (fear is a powerful motivator), in order to change behaviors, is so great you would think that every other person running around is infected. I guess it is helped along by narrow-minded right-winged zealots that want to impose their views on the masses?

Everyone has a right to evaluate and manage risk as they see fit. In this country, it appears as though we work less on a rational, fact based assessment of risk and more on an fear basis that has no reality in the facts?

Good luck & stay safe!

It finally happened. I thought I was doing well; my activity in this hobby was going down, and then I saw an "old friend" and got a BBBJ. Couple weeks later, had a painful piss and you know the rest. Haven't gotten my test results yet but went to the Health Dept and they gave me a precautionary dose of zithromax. Since I'm about two days into that antibiotic and the symptoms aren't retreating, I'm wondering if I also need a shot of ceftriaxone and, if so, where to get it immediately. I'm so scared, and I'm considering suicide options seriously at this point. I'm married and I can't stand the thought of compromising her safety, nor having to admit to her what I've done. My life will be done. Sorry to be the downer with this. But guys, if you are still healthy, please wrap your shit up. I always thought that a BBBJ was the safer option if there was a choice. I was wrong, I guess there really isn't a safe option uncovered (besides maybe a handjob). If I ever see the other side of this and come back into this hobby in any form, I promise to ALWAYS stay covered. A nut bust is not worth this. It's not worth ruining other peoples' lives and even wanting to take your own.

Like Nike says, just do it.

I suggest you pick one of those walk in clinics such as Patients First. Or go back to your health department facility. Tell them whole story and let the doctor decide how to handle things. Tell them you don't have a regular doctor, otherwise they will forward records that you want buried. When the bill and test results arrive in mail, you need to get to mailbox first.

There is a free STD clinic on Caroline street, that is a free option where you can give them fake information and never see any mail. Years ago I put a reference in reports of destination. I don't know if it is still valid.

How did you get Zithromax? That is only part of the treatment. That bacteria is quickly evolving and resistant to antibiotics that were effective just a few years ago. Drug companies no longer are spending big money on antibiotic research because it doesn't pay off like meds that people take for the rest of their lives. Don't be surprised if soon their is no treatment for the clap. Get it while you can.

Good luck with it. Get your treatment now and worry about consequences later.

[QUOTE=DjHunter;2886645]It finally happened. I thought I was doing well; my activity in this hobby was going down, and then I saw an "old friend" and got a BBBJ. Couple weeks later, had a painful piss and you know the rest. Haven't gotten my test results yet but went to the Health Dept and they gave me a precautionary dose of zithromax. Since I'm about two days into that antibiotic and the symptoms aren't retreating, I'm wondering if I also need a shot of ceftriaxone and, if so, where to get it immediately. I'm so scared, and I'm considering suicide options seriously at this point. I'm married and I can't stand the thought of compromising her safety, nor having to admit to her what I've done. My life will be done. .[/QUOTE]Hang tough, stay calm, This is not the end of the world, and you will get through this ok. Below is information on the Caroline St clinic, but since it isn't open again until Monday, Horsetrader's advice on Patient First clinic sounds good to me. They can give you advice on how long to safely abstain, and your wife can surely understand if you are just feeling a little too sickly for sex for a while.

Eastern STD Clinic.

620 North Caroline St. , Baltimore, MD 21205.

Tel. 410.396. 9410.

Hours of Operation.

Monday & Tuesday: 8:30 AM - 5:00 PM.

Wednesday: & Friday: Closed.

Thursday: 8:30 AM - 1:00 PM.

No appointment necessary, but patients are encouraged to arrive at the clinic at 8:30 am.

[QUOTE=Keemosobie;2886869]

No appointment necessary, but patients are encouraged to arrive at the clinic at 8:30 am.[/QUOTE]I haven't been there in years, but it used to be that patients were lined up before they opened. Late arrivals may not be seen.

I don't remember ever showing ID. But, have your fake name, address, zip, and SSN memorized because it might get asked multiple times.

[QUOTE=Horsetrader;2886793]Like Nike says, just do it.

I suggest you pick one of those walk in clinics such as Patients First. Or go back to your health department facility. Tell them whole story and let the doctor decide how to handle things. Tell them you don't have a regular doctor, otherwise they will forward records that you want buried. When the bill and test results arrive in mail, you need to get to mailbox first.

There is a free STD clinic on Caroline street, that is a free option where you can give them fake information and never see any mail. Years ago I put a reference in reports of destination. I don't know if it is still valid.

How did you get Zithromax? That is only part of the treatment. That bacteria is quickly evolving and resistant to antibiotics that were effective just a few years ago. Drug companies no longer are spending big money on antibiotic research because it doesn't pay off like meds that people take for the rest of their lives. Don't be surprised if soon their is no treatment for the clap. Get it while you can.

Good luck with it. Get your treatment now and worry about consequences later.[/QUOTE]I got the Zithro from the Baltimore County Health Department. I didn't know about the zithro / ceftriaxone combo for gonorrhea but I guess they can't administer both until they know what you have? Anyway, since my results are two weeks out, I decided to visit a urologist yesterday who could provide results faster. My initial thoughts are that its clap. I'm holding out the slim possibility that it could be something else, even something non-STD related, but I know that's just me trying to keep myself calm. So, I think right now I'm going to have to wait until Monday when my results are expected from the urologist. I'm still freaked out, but the silver lining is that maybe this is the situation that will get me out of the hobby that's had such a grip on me for the past eight years. I'm hoping for the best but expecting the worst. In the meantime, I happened to have some garlic extract so I started popping those on my own. Yeah, that's probably a bullshit "cure" but whatever works for my sanity right now. I'm in and out of deep depression over this.

[QUOTE=Horsetrader;2887041]I haven't been there in years, but it used to be that patients were lined up before they opened. .[/QUOTE]Agreed, years for me as well. The closer to the front of that line that you can get before they open the better, as they take you in the order you sign in. Sitting for hours in those plastic chairs in a crowded waiting room is nobody's idea of a pleasant way to spend your time.

[QUOTE=DjHunter;2886645]It finally happened. I thought I was doing well; my activity in this hobby was going down, and then I saw an "old friend" and got a BBBJ. Couple weeks later, had a painful piss and you know the rest. Haven't gotten my test results yet but went to the Health Dept and they gave me a precautionary dose of zithromax. Since I'm about two days into that antibiotic and the symptoms aren't retreating, I'm wondering if I also need a shot of ceftriaxone and, if so, where to get it immediately. I'm so scared, and I'm considering suicide options seriously at this point. I'm married and I can't stand the thought of compromising her safety, nor having to admit to her what I've done. My life will be done. Sorry to be the downer with this. But guys, if you are still healthy, please wrap your shit up. I always thought that a BBBJ was the safer option if there was a choice. I was wrong, I guess there really isn't a safe option uncovered (besides maybe a handjob). If I ever see the other side of this and come back into this hobby in any form, I promise to ALWAYS stay covered. A nut bust is not worth this. It's not worth ruining other peoples' lives and even wanting to take your own.[/QUOTE]Like others have suggested the Caroline St clinic is the best. You can often get appointment same day you enter, and get your results next day. Or preliminary results same day. Sounds like gono to me. There are some nasty strains out there. But the antibiotic resistance ones not prevalent here (yet). Calm down. The women at clinic are awesome.

[QUOTE=DjHunter;2887056]I got the Zithro from the Baltimore County Health Department. I didn't know about the zithro / ceftriaxone combo for gonorrhea but I guess they can't administer both until they know what you have? Anyway, since my results are two weeks out, I decided to visit a urologist yesterday who could provide results faster. My initial thoughts are that its clap. I'm holding out the slim possibility that it could be something else, even something non-STD related, but I know that's just me trying to keep myself calm. So, I think right now I'm going to have to wait until Monday when my results are expected from the urologist. I'm still freaked out, but the silver lining is that maybe this is the situation that will get me out of the hobby that's had such a grip on me for the past eight years. I'm hoping for the best but expecting the worst. In the meantime, I happened to have some garlic extract so I started popping those on my own. Yeah, that's probably a bullshit "cure" but whatever works for my sanity right now. I'm in and out of deep depression over this.[/QUOTE]First and foremost. Get medical attention and a "final" cure! (Yeah, the garlic tablets are a BS cure) Don't stop with the "stop gap" Zithro just because you feel better. Do that and you may have only suppressed the bugs and what comes back, might be resistant to treatment and you'll be worse the wear. AND on top of that, you could give it to The SO and catch it back.

When I was a young pup, I worked in a shop where some hotshot 18-yo went down the street and did several rounds with the available ladies. One day we are standing around before assignments and he goes into the head and we can hear him pizzing razor blades! When he came out everyone had a smirk on their face and he said, "What?" The boss told him to head down to the Health Department Clinic that AM and get it treated. He did. Fast forward a month later and the same thing happens. He's pizzing razor blades! He comes out and the the boss yells at him, "Didn't you take the wife to get treated too?" Yeah, he got cured but forgot to get his wife treated, so he caught it again from his wife! Genius! Anyway, don't fall into this hole and hope you didn't BBFS with SO anytime between seeing that lady that infected you and the appearance of symptoms? It can take up to 2-weeks before symptoms become apparent!

But jeez dude!! I can't believe the reaction to getting an STD? Seriously? I mean just because you got it doesn't mean you are a bad person or "dirty" or anything like that! If you can compartmentalize enough to play on the side when you have an SO, then why not this? Sounds like you are letting some old school socialization seep in and ruin you? Let it go. It is the risk of the game, it isn't fatal, and you earned a stripe. Chill.

Also, I'd suggest you look at how this happened. Usually skin is a pretty good protective barrier as designed to keep pathogens out! Usually, that protects you from getting anything. But if there are cuts, sores, raw spots or anything else that degrades the protectiveness of the skin then there can be a pathway for transmission. Then again if she was sticking her touge into your urethra then that might be and additional risk factor? Finally when you were done, did you urinate and wash up the equipment? Cleaning and flushing "can" help in disease prevention: it isn't a primary preventative technique however. So see if anything could be changed in your procedure?

Finally, you didn't mention if you let the provider know and if she was getting treatment or is still out there infecting others?

[QUOTE=CephlapodLove;2868220]Hey not banging on you, as I see this kind of statement often, but-.

About half the guys out there, according to women, ask for and play BBFS. So it is safe to assume that just about ALL girls provide BBFS at some point or another.

Most are aware of the negative stigma associated with advertising BBFS, so they don't advertise it and might even state it isn't available.

The only way one can know for certain is to ASK! That is one of my standard questions. [B] I always ask about bbfs, so I can screen the field.[/B].

It is pretty amazing. If you ask outright, most of the time you get a knee-jerk reaction of "no. ' Ask a second time and then the true colors come out. You will either get an agreement, a counter offer for additional bills or a refusal. You'd be surprised how many fall into the first two categories! Yousa!

So don't fall into false thinking or comfort zone of no advertised BBFS means she doesn't do it.[/QUOTE]When I first started reading your post, I thought you were going the right direction, then you totally went off the rails.

There is a common misconception that BBFS is dangerous with respect to STD's, and BBBJ is relatively safe. Nothing could be further from the truth. This misconception is out there because of statements by the CDC and others that, relatively speaking, BJ's are safer than FS. However, when you look at how they draw their conclusions, it is totally BS.

There are no scientific, believable studies on this topic. First major problem is that people don't tell the truth on such sensitive topics. Second problem is that when you combine this issue with the lack of studies on this controlled population (sex workers), then you have nothing but bogus information out their.

I have done my own research, polled a large number of SW's I picked up on the ratio of BJ's vs FS, and then BBBJ vs CBJ, then BBFS. The ratio of BJ to FS varies quite a bit, but generally is at least 5 to 1. Almost 100% of girls I asked said they would do BBBJ. Over the last 6 months, at least 75% of girls I have been with said they would do BBFS, when the 25% were told I would drop them off, the number increased to at least 90%.

So your "screening method" is useless. Virtually all SW's will do BBFS is the condition is right. (The number of BBFSCIP drops off considerably, especially in that 25% category).

Think about this. There are at least 5 to 1 more BBBJ's going on out there than FS, so there is more opportunity to share. Plus, the ratio of guys that wrap for FS is much greater than the ones going BBFS, so the true ratio of uncovered BJ to uncovered FS is probably at least 10 to 1.

My conclusions:

1. BBFS is safer, with regards to catching a common STD, than BBBJ.

2. I cannot comment on transmission of HIV. There isn't enough data, but it is generally a known fact that F to M transmission with no other complications (like the M having an open sore or wound) is pretty rare.

Let me be clear, I am not advocating BBFS over BBBJ, or that BBFS is safe by any means. I am just trying to dispel the notion that BBBJ is "relatively safe", whereas BBFS is not. And that you can screen out higher risk girls (like the essence of your post).

Look at the stats on this forum. There are plenty of stories on here about guys catching the clap from BBBJ. There are fewer stories about catching it from BBFS.

I have done hundreds of girls BBFS and not caught anything. I almost always use lube treated with Chlorhexidine Gluconate. I get tested every 6 months for common STD's, and once a year get the full panel (Hep be and see, HSV 1&2, HIV, and the rest of the common STD's) I just had my yearly test, all negative.

I always piss right after the act, then wash up as soon as possible after the act.

[QUOTE=BusterHymen;2888290]When I first started reading your post, I thought you were going the right direction, then you totally went off the rails.

There is a common misconception that BBFS is dangerous with respect to STD's, and BBBJ is relatively safe. Nothing could be further from the truth. This misconception is out there because of statements by the CDC and others that, relatively speaking, BJ's are safer than FS. However, when you look at how they draw their conclusions, it is totally BS.

There are no scientific, believable studies on this topic. First major problem is that people don't tell the truth on such sensitive topics. Second problem is that when you combine this issue with the lack of studies on this controlled population (sex workers), then you have nothing but bogus information out their.

I have done my own research, polled a large number of SW's I picked up on the ratio of BJ's vs FS, and then BBBJ vs CBJ, then BBFS. The ratio of BJ to FS varies quite a bit, but generally is at least 5 to 1. Almost 100% of girls I asked said they would do BBBJ. Over the last 6 months, at least 75% of girls I have been with said they would do BBFS, when the 25% were told I would drop them off, the number increased to at least 90%.

So your "screening method" is useless. Virtually all SW's will do BBFS is the condition is right. (The number of BBFSCIP drops off considerably, especially in that 25% category).

Think about this. There are at least 5 to 1 more BBBJ's going on out there than FS, so there is more opportunity to share. Plus, the ratio of guys that wrap for FS is much greater than the ones going BBFS, so the true ratio of uncovered BJ to uncovered FS is probably at least 10 to 1.

My conclusions:

1. BBFS is safer, with regards to catching a common STD, than BBBJ.

2. I cannot comment on transmission of HIV. There isn't enough data, but it is generally a known fact that F to M transmission with no other complications (like the M having an open sore or wound) is pretty rare.

Let me be clear, I am not advocating BBFS over BBBJ, or that BBFS is safe by any means. I am just trying to dispel the notion that BBBJ is "relatively safe", whereas BBFS is not. And that you can screen out higher risk girls (like the essence of your post).

Look at the stats on this forum. There are plenty of stories on here about guys catching the clap from BBBJ. There are fewer stories about catching it from BBFS.

I have done hundreds of girls BBFS and not caught anything. I almost always use lube treated with Chlorhexidine Gluconate. I get tested every 6 months for common STD's, and once a year get the full panel (Hep be and see, HSV 1&2, HIV, and the rest of the common STD's) I just had my yearly test, all negative.

I always piss right after the act, then wash up as soon as possible after the act.[/QUOTE]Buuuutttt. The mouth is a far more hostile place for viruses / bacteria than the pussy!

I don't disagree. BBBJ is not "safe". But going bare back is not smart. Not too mention you could knock one of these chicks up (unless you're like me and have been snipped).

[QUOTE=KyGuy30;2889449]Buuuutttt. The mouth is a far more hostile place for viruses / bacteria than the pussy!

I don't disagree. BBBJ is not "safe". But going bare back is not smart. Not too mention you could knock one of these chicks up (unless you're like me and have been snipped).[/QUOTE]So I'd like to see a discussion on this topic here. Care to explain your statement that "going bare back is not smart?" Why do you think that?

If anyone is playing BBFS with a girl under ANY circumstances, whether it be a girl friend, a "hook up date" or a "poetry reading" date and doesn't know and trust that the girl is on birth control, well that dude is playing with fire! Being responsible with your DNA is male-female relations 101.

In most states, the law sides with the "best interest" of the child. Therefore there is no "out" for the guy, even if she lies to you and says she is on birth control when she isn't or even if she has you "sign a contract" that you can donate your DNA and not be responsible. The laws are designed for what is best for the child (getting money out of you!) and you are scr*wed! So always know the fate of your guys!

Lately its been taking me a long time to nut with condoms.

I used to use Magnum Thins but have found the Trojan Ecstasy feel good.

I've tried Durex and Lifestyles and found them a bit snug.

Any suggestions on the best feeling condoms and where to source?

I once met a provider who came with flavored condoms.

She gave me an incredible CBJ, it almost felt like she was using nothing at all on the CBJ and during FS I had to check to see if it was on it felt so natural.

Don't know what she used and Haven't been able to find another condom to feel the same.

[QUOTE=JayPlay42;2898598]Lately its been taking me a long time to nut with condoms.

I used to use Magnum Thins but have found the Trojan Ecstasy feel good.

I've tried Durex and Lifestyles and found them a bit snug.

Any suggestions on the best feeling condoms and where to source?

I once met a provider who came with flavored condoms.

She gave me an incredible CBJ, it almost felt like she was using nothing at all on the CBJ and during FS I had to check to see if it was on it felt so natural.

Don't know what she used and Haven't been able to find another condom to feel the same.[/QUOTE]

Eh, fit and comfort are an individual thing. What works for me might not work for another. But there is a whole world of great condoms available out there that generally ARE NOT in the drug stores!

So check out the review section of this website:

[URL]http://www.condomdepot.com/[/URL]

All kinds of information on condoms and other safe sex devices & measures. Fitting guides, educational material, lubes, toys, etc. All can be sent to you discretely in a brown paper wrapper.

I think you will find that the Crown "skinless skin" and the Kimono MicroThin condoms are some of the thinnest ones manufactured. It looks like the Japanese have some of the thinnest condoms.

Also think that the PVC condoms might be better at transmitting heat than latex. Of course the best at that are lambskin condoms, but because they are a membrane they have a higher permeability and thus are theoretically capable of transmitting disease. (but if you have no openings, sores, rashes on the skin of your tool then transmission probability is low).

I found out about the Japanese condoms after an AMP visit. Requested an experienced girl and got an older attendant. This girl pulled the "slip the hat on during BBBJ" trick and then quickly went to CG FS, I never felt any thing and once she was on me I thought she was doing BBFS so I stopped her to check. Sure enough there was a pink hat that looked like my skin on there. Continued the session as it felt like BB. When it was done I asked to see the wrapper the hat was in.

Now that said, gave a few of those to a buddy who was in a pinch and he reported he felt no difference between the brands found in the drug stores. So YMMV.

Take a look at the customer and STAFF ratings of hats on that site. They do have variety packs so you can text out different ones. Oh and full stats are there too: as in length, width and thickness of each condom.

Good luck!