Strip Club Reports

Cruising WP on a rare day off. Pulled into Dollies. Two guys, one an old white guy and the other, a middle-aged black guy were having animated discussion at the outside of the front door. Decided to keep moving and come back later.

Before I could get out of the parking lot, a dark blue S-10 with three women in the front seat pull along side me. Driver is rolling down her window and talking, cig in mouth. I stop, roll down my window. She asks if I am looking for some fun? I asked what kind of fun? She says are you a cop or anything? I said no. She said she wasn’t either, what kind of fun do I like? I looked over the three of them. The driver was blonde, near spinner, about a 4/5, looked about 35+, headed towards hagness. The other two were brunettes, thin, looked young, felony young. Driver said take your pick of us. I said your two friends look pretty young. They all denied they were under age. The one brunette said she had four kids. She looked every day of 17.

The driver says what do you like baby? Do you like blow jobs? Sure, who doesn’t I said. She said I can give you the best BJ. (BTW. I never hear a woman say this outside, away from a strip club for some reason? ) I said how much? She said $30? I asked where would this happen? She said she had a place down the street that HUD just took over, it was real clean and safe. Something told me to resist this offer. Asked her if she would be around for a while, maybe an hour. (I wanted to check out Blondies down the street.) I told her maybe later if she was still around. She said she didn’t know if she would stay around, but would I give her a couple of bucks for gas? She was nearly out. Said the brunette in the middle would go with me and give a couple of quick licks. Now, I am really thinking I should move on. Reached in my pocket and gave her a fiver and told her if she was around in an hour I would find her.

Drove to Blondies’ and went inside quick. Never saw them after coming out.

I don’t know if I was too careful or if I passed up my first potential four way. My dark side is telling me to go back. My back side is saying prison sucks, literally!

Anyone else run into this situation? Are cues I could have looked for to sense whether this was an invitation to robbery/jail or worse?

Thanks

Well considering what happened to this poor fellow, I'd be really careful. If you had chosen to do something with one of the gals, it would have been best on insisting she go with you to the hourly motel by Miss Kitty's.
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From MyFOX News.

News
Text: Could Someone Be Targeting Men At Downtown Nightclubs?

There are fears criminals may be targeting young men at St. Louis area night clubs. One of those men, Scott O'Dell, 24, of Shiloh, IL, was murdered.His family believes he was set up to be robbed, only to end up dying.

O'Dell's brother, Shane, believes a woman is luring young men as part of the scheme. Scott O'Dell left the Dolce night club in downtown St. Louis with a woman. O'Dell was there with his brother for a night out. Scott O'Dell ended up getting robbed and killed.

"Just having fun with your brother, yeah, just going out together," said Shane O'Dell. "Then he's gone, you know, forever. It's tough."

Two days after Scott O'Dell left that night club, neighborhood kids found his car in Washington Park ; his body in a nearby ditch; shot gun wounds to his face and neck.

"The violence, the horrible violence of it, knowing my son was shot in his very handsome face and neck," said his mother, Patricia Dahlen. "Horrible, so horrible. I don't like violence," she said, breaking down into tears.

In the past year and a half, Scott O'Dell had gotten his life together; getting baptized at the Glad Tidings Church in Swansea ; ready to start a new job as union carpenter, framing houses for McBride and Sons Homebuilders. His stereo, his new carpenter's belt and tools were stolen from his car.

After Scott's death, another man came forward, saying he left an Illinois night club with a woman two days earlier; the woman setting him up to be robbed; not far from where O'Dell's body was found; the suspects using a shot-gun.

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Jannisary, the Scott O'Dell mentioned in your Fox News piece is the same man I wrote about 2 weeks ago whose body was found on Lincoln Avenue in Washington Park. I mentioned to Lark's Tongue to stay alert because Odell's body was found really close to The Colony Theater--one block south and 2 blocks east.

Because of the serious nature of this horrific crime, and because I drove down Lincoln Avenue myself last time I was in town, I've provided a link to my post from 2 weeks ago. Guys, you'll probably want to re-read it. It's Post #593 in this thread. Be careful out there.[/color]

[url]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=602932&postcount=593[/url]

When in doubt, don't. You describe the easiest, safest pickup in the world to me, but if I got there and I had any weird feelings about it, I'd pass.

When I was young to the game in another place, a sw did the classic "mouth to johnny, hand in the console" trick and stole my cellphone. I spent three hours paying people who claimed to be able to get my phone back. I had hood boys in my car for a half hour. I could've gotten rolled so easy. But I was not thinking straigght. I finally found her and ended up begging her for it. THat night alone cost me over $$, and I went home with a pole. Damn, I was so young and so stupid, but so lucky at the same time.

Then there was a night (in another town) that I lucked out by talking to a sw outside my hotel when her friends pulled up. The first sw was pretty cool, and her friends sat there and we b.s.'ed for a while. Everything felt ok, and I ended up with all three. That night cost was under $$, and there wasn't no pole when I fell asleep.

So trust your gut and use your brains. I think you played that one like a pro.

I had never ventured to Washington Park before, but I was in the area this evening decided to check out the clubs. It was definitely a slow night across the board. Here is what I saw:

Blondies - There was one other customer in Blondies the entire time I was there. There were no girls dancing on stage and only a couple of girls in the club. The bartender told me they are usually busier. I talked to a woman who worked at another club and bought her a beer. She asked me if I wanted to go private. We did not even discuss money, because I wanted to see what the other clubs had to offer.

I stopped in a couple of other clubs and they were pretty dead so I made my final stop at C-MOWES. C-MOWES DEFINITELY had the best looking women, the most customers and the most girls working. I bought a girl a beer and she told me that lap dances are .25, private for a half hour is $$ and an hour is $$$. She was good looking, but her price was so far off from what I was willing to pay (more in the $-$.4 range) I didn't even try to negotiate. She didn't even mention if extras were included in the price.

On another note, the price of drinks are not terribly bad. $4 seems like the standard price for a beer at all of the bars. Anyway, I left slightly disappointed but I was happy to have seen the clubs. The next time I am in the area I am going to get a motel room, take a cab and spend some more time. Tonight I got a little bit worried about drinking and driving, so I didn't stay out as long as I would have liked to.

a police sting is a possibility. the police do not have to tell the truth, so "i'm not a cop..." doesn't mean much.

**** is a risky spot too. even if she shows you an id, if it is a fake, you are looking at serious problems.

robbery, of all of the east side neighborhoods, wp is probably the safest. that doesn't mean their friends were not waiting for you and your money.

could have been fun, could have been very, very bad. those are the risks. after saying all of this, i probably would have taken one for a ride to a location of my choosing.

Black dance clubs can draw hot heads with guns. Shootings happen.

The first east side strip club I went to was the Rose right at I-64 and route 3. It was in ESL. There was a robbery/murder in their parking lot and the club lost business and closed about six months after the shooting. I remember the post-disgrace running a full page interview with the pastor of the church across the street from the Rose. The pastor claimed his congregation's 24 hour pray vigil closed the club. The prayer vigil had been praying for the Rose to close 24/7 for three and a half years.

Ok, I have made two non hobby posts. I promise, my next post will be about an outing.

[QUOTE=Jeffc 574]Black dance clubs can draw hot heads with guns. Shootings happen.[/QUOTE]
Jeffc, I appreciate your sentiment, and know what you mean. But Scott O'dell, the shooting victim in Washington Park last month, was a white man, and only 24 years old.

The news article says he was probably lured to the robbery and his eventual death in Washington Park by a girl in a downtown St. Louis night club called Dolce. He ended up dead in a ditch in Washington Park on Lincoln Avenue.

For some reason, Jannisary didn't copy the following last 5 paragraphs from the news story, so here they are. They are frightening paragraphs.
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"After Scott's death, another man came forward, saying he left an Illinois night club with a woman two days earlier; the woman setting him up to be robbed; not far from where O'Dell's body was found; the suspects using a shot-gun.

"A girl took him by there, tricked him," Shane O'Dell said of the
other case. " She said, 'Let's stop by my house real quick,' Then he was robbed. They took his money, his watch. Then they told him to run... and there was a girl involved that night with my brother. I spoke to her on the phone. She told me he was busy. That was strange that somebody would be answering his phone."

"They're going to hurt somebody else," Dahlen said. "They'll do it
again. I don't want anyone else to suffer like this. It's horrible."

"I just want everybody to be careful and be cautious because they're still there," said Shane O'Dell. "Who knows who's next on the list for them."

An Illinois State Police investigator could not confirm a connection between the two cases, but he did say there was new information about where Scott O'Dell was the night of his death and how he ended up in Washington Park. He also said the case was far from cold."
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So this girl seems to get around. First she apparently lured a guy from an Illinois night club (which the article does not name). Then 2 days later, she lured Scott from a Missouri club in downtown St. Louis called Dolce. The robbing gang let the first guy go (told him to run), but killed Scott with shotgun blasts to the head. Frightening... Be careful out there, fellas.

Here's a link to the story:
[url]http://www.myfoxstl.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=5420117&version=1&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.2.1[/url]

[QUOTE=Jeffc 574]Robbery, of all of the east side neighborhoods, WP is probably the safest. That doesn't mean their friends were not waiting for you and your money.[/QUOTE]This is what you have to worry about the most. The girls might have sticky fingers and get in your wallet while your pants are down, or even worse you may end up in an alley with their friends waiting for you.

[QUOTE=Rosco2]Jeffc, I appreciate your sentiment, and know what you mean. But Scott O'dell, the shooting victim in Washington Park last month, was a white man, and only 24 years old.

The news article says he was probably lured to the robbery and his eventual death in Washington Park by a girl in a downtown St. Louis night club called Dolce. He ended up dead in a ditch in Washington Park on Lincoln Avenue.[/QUOTE]I have partied at Dolce more than once. It is a very nice club, with bottle service and good looking women. It is the kind of place you go and drop $ or $$ with friends, because it is seems completely safe. Dolce is not the kind of place where you would expect to get lured outside, robbed and murdered. If it can happen at Dolce, it can happen anywhere.

I didn't think I cut off any of the story when I copied and pasted. Sometimes they get cut down or added to maybe. Oh well, thanks for posting the whole thing Rosco.

Personally I'd been very tempted to take the best looking girl from Big's post and try her out at the notel. But then again, the cautious route especially since that news report, isn't a bad idea.


Very Dvs, did you stop in at the Hollywood? They have the hottest girls but not a lot of really dirty fun.

Visited Wiseguy’s in WP. Went there about 1:00 pm. Three dancers, I was the third customer. Dancer on stage was nice looking, with long curly strawberry blonde hair, emphasis on the strawberry. Nice 34-36 C breasts. Overall appearance 6-7. Great stage dance, she was very handsy, and helped me be handsy too, exposed the kitty, handsy again. But not for me, she gave me a gentle push away.

At the start of her last song on stage, she asked me about a private. Asked about the price. She said it depended on how much I wanted to spend. She offered a HJ for 5 Jacksons. Told her I would have to think about it. Moved away from the stage after her songs finished. Watched the other two dancers. Neither were that much, a 3 and a 4.

While finishing my drink she came up behind me and put her boobs on my shoulders and asked if I was ready for a private. Told her the price was on the expensive side. She said "well that’s the price! " I said thanks but maybe later. With only two other guys in the place I thought she was pretty inflexible price wise or it was UOGPM. I finished my drink and left.

The club is nice but one thing irritated me. Another older guy in the club got up and sat behind me when I went to the stage. When I left and sat at a table to watch the next dancer, he moved and sat behind me again. Don’t know if he was the house police or not. But, it made me a bit uneasy.

[QUOTE=Big0008]Cruising WP on a rare day off. Pulled into Dollies. Two guys, one an old white guy and the other, a middle-aged black guy were having animated discussion at the outside of the front door. Decided to keep moving and come back later.

Before I could get out of the parking lot, a dark blue S-10 with three women in the front seat pull along side me. Driver is rolling down her window and talking, cig in mouth. I stop, roll down my window. She asks if I am looking for some fun? I asked what kind of fun? She says are you a cop or anything? I said no. She said she wasn’t either, what kind of fun do I like? I looked over the three of them. The driver was blonde, near spinner, about a 4/5, looked about 35+, headed towards hagness. The other two were brunettes, thin, looked young, felony young. Driver said take your pick of us. I said your two friends look pretty young. They all denied they were under age. The one brunette said she had four kids. She looked every day of 17.

The driver says what do you like baby? Do you like blow jobs? Sure, who doesn’t I said. She said I can give you the best BJ. (BTW. I never hear a woman say this outside, away from a strip club for some reason? ) I said how much? She said $30? I asked where would this happen? She said she had a place down the street that HUD just took over, it was real clean and safe. Something told me to resist this offer. Asked her if she would be around for a while, maybe an hour. (I wanted to check out Blondies down the street.) I told her maybe later if she was still around. She said she didn’t know if she would stay around, but would I give her a couple of bucks for gas? She was nearly out. Said the brunette in the middle would go with me and give a couple of quick licks. Now, I am really thinking I should move on. Reached in my pocket and gave her a fiver and told her if she was around in an hour I would find her.

Drove to Blondies’ and went inside quick. Never saw them after coming out.

I don’t know if I was too careful or if I passed up my first potential four way. My dark side is telling me to go back. My back side is saying prison sucks, literally!

Anyone else run into this situation? Are cues I could have looked for to sense whether this was an invitation to robbery/jail or worse?

Thanks[/QUOTE]I'm sure you dodged a rolling or worse. Never go where they want. Always go where you want. Safety first and always. As much as I'd like a 3-some or more-some, I just won't pick up 2 or more or go with 2 or more anywhere. You need to read the Monger rules. Sounds like you have a good head on your shoulders. Trick is to think with the big head, not the little one.

Continue to be safe. MW

[QUOTE=Jannisary]
Very Dvs, did you stop in at the Hollywood? They have the hottest girls but not a lot of really dirty fun.[/QUOTE]

I did not stop at Hollywood. I stopped at three clubs: Blondies, C-MOWES and Wiseguys. All of the ladies and bartenders in each of the clubs were really cool and talkative. I only spent an hour out, because I didn't want to drive intoxicated, so I only stayed for a few beers.

Each club was reasonably priced, $4 for beers and each club had very friendly women. There were no 10s, but there were a few women that were higher up on the scale 7-8, and some that were lower 3-6. There was a nice distribution. In total, there were about 15 girls between the three clubs.

I made it a point to tip the women on stage a few dollars each and buy a few of the women drinks. I didn't have any women hassle me for dances or act really money hungry, which is a problem I have run into in other strip clubs.

In a few weeks I am going to get a hotel room, take a cab and a few hundred bucks so I can really check the scene out. I will post a complete report when I have completed the mission.

Does anyone have a recommendation on a safe motel? How is the Econo Inn? That seems to be the closest place that is reasonably safe. I don't want my car or room getting broken into while I am gone. Are cabs easy to get in Washington Park? With the law enforcement presence in this area I don't want to drink and drive if I am even close to .08, I don't really want to end up in an East St. Louis jail. I have a feeling East St. Louis jails aren't the most pleasant place to end up.

A piece of advise for everyone. If someone is targeting men at local clubs, don't leave with them. Once they take you to their house, you are dead. If you know who they are or where they live, you can turn them in. If they let you know anything personal, that means they are intending to kill you. If you get a gun pulled on you outside a club, make a run for it, once you get in a car you are done. Make sure you never leave with them. Don't hassle them, if they want your wallet or cash, let them have it. It isn't worth dying over, but no matter what, never leave with someone who is robbing you. Good luck and stay safe.