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[QUOTE=BoatMan3;5007972]I second that opinion.[/QUOTE]I third that opinion. I used to see her a long while ago and for the first few times, it was friendly, flirty and no back-to-back appointments. Then she became what's being described either distant or rude or just plain rushing, once she was just plain nuts with her communication (e. G. Sometimes confirming and 20 min later texting you asking if you're still coming and to not waste her time. For an appointment maybe an hour later).
[QUOTE=Bentaki;4994751]Had a couple of enjoyable sessions this week with pretty new girl June. Maybe 30, slim, smooth and accommodating in every way. Wears short clingy dresses to show off bolt-on Cs which look great but feel kinda hard.
Temp check, hand wash and sanitizer on arrival, and you are both masked throughout session other than when she uses her mouth. Everything available pretty much as soon as she comes in. She only works M-F. Half Hour for 60 plus 140 tip. BYOC.[/QUOTE]I returned to CC after your review. As with all visits to AMPs, it's YMMV. Not that I did not get the same service, but she was hesitant and first asked for 180 tip, which I was not going for and when I countered with "nothing then", she agreed. She is pretty and yes, those bolt-on Cs are pretty hard, but good CBJ and tight kitty.
[QUOTE=GripNSip;5008488]Since I've used a Thai provider. Since their egregious spike in prices for service, I have moved on to other venues and left the Thai providers in the dust. That being said, I still see ads and posts of mongers paying an arm and a leg for service that was a hundred dollars cheaper just a couple of years ago. So unfortunately it doesn't look like it's changing anytime soon, but I can at least take refuge in the fact that I am not adding to that problem.
They will continue to get away with charging outlandish prices while providing mediocre service as long as we continue to put money in their hands.[/QUOTE]I think Zina is still a decent value. Nice safe location and for 220 you get a very good massage, BBBJ, lots of dirty talk while your DATY and pounding her. I'm surprised she hasn't raised her rates like Ava and Tiffany.
[QUOTE=MangoBalls78;5006042]Was she the girl in the pic or someone else?[/QUOTE]I don't think the pic was her, but it was not far off (perhaps 5 years older). However, Annie was cute. As I mentioned, I only got the massage and she was wearing a dress, but I would 100 lbs and b cups.
[QUOTE=JmSuttr;5008538]
I haven't dabbled in the Sugar Baby area as everything I've seen indicates that it's more effort than I'm willing to put in. To each their own[/QUOTE]I haven't simply because I don't want to pay for membership on a site, I'm too stingy haha.
[QUOTE=SlowBlo;5008743]I think Zina is still a decent value. Nice safe location and for 220 you get a very good massage, BBBJ, lots of dirty talk while your DATY and pounding her. I'm surprised she hasn't raised her rates like Ava and Tiffany.[/QUOTE]I have seen her several times and believe she is a great value. I take the 30 min option for 160 and go to pound town. I think the message is just meh. Really cute, fun and seems to be into it, at least every time I saw her. I wish she was the majority and not the exception among the Thai scene.
Has anyone been to Sky Energy Therapy? Did a google search, rub maps and TER and nothing.
[URL]https://washingtondc.craigslist.org/nva/bts/d/vienna-asia-massage/7205472598.html[/URL]
Let me share a few things about myself with you all. 1) Taking one for the team is something I embrace with pride. I'm a brah to my brahs and anyway I can help I do. 2) Due to how gung-ho I get with things I'm into, I bore easily within phases of my life. These two tidbits combined and made for an interesting Friday evening.
Let's start from 2 and work backwards. Since completing the HOF and annihilating every to do list I've formulated, I feel like I'm sort of growing tired of the hobby. I'm trying to figure out how to spice things up. One idea I had was to post a question and see if there were any parlors or providers you brahs were on the fence about trying. I'd build a community to do list, fall on the sword for you brahs and report back with my findings. That way you can definitively decide if a trip is worth the effort for you. That way I can manifest my commitment to tidbit number 1 with my brahs here. With all the questions surrounding the Native American owned and operated Energy Serenity Spa, I felt like I'd make my spice it up attempt by giving this place a whirl. My name is Frank, but here are my findings "Man With No Name" style.
The Good-
A few posts down a brah suggested that anyone interested in trying this spa out should google the number in the ad as it was a sure fire way to find pics of the provider. Brah is correct. You'll find a pic of a thick, attractive, racially ambiguous woman wearing a black and red kimono that is the home of a pair of big teds. The woman pictured is Vicky and is the woman who will perform your massage.
Concerns of the place being strictly legit can be forgotten as it is not. On the site there were two massage options that looked unusual. The first was "Body Worship" and the other was "The Works". When setting up my appointment I asked what those two were and I was told those were "sensual" options. This was indeed the case. I went with "The Works". Within 10 minutes of my appointment I was getting a nice and passionate Hugh Jackman and had one of those big teddies in my mouth. At the end of my session I Holy Grailed all over the place.
The Bad-
To start, the massage was super lackluster for the smorgasbord advertised on the site. No substantial body weight or finger strength behind the strokes. It was okay, but I need more than just okay when I'm paying Indy prices.
There's also the issue of this providers appearance. I mentioned before that a google search will produce a picture, but in my estimation, that picture is 12-15 years old, easy. Vicky is probably in her early 60's but looks like she's pushing 70. She's also much thinner than the picture she uses. This however isn't an athletic slim though. It's a got gastric bypass surgery, Atkins dieted afterwards, I look deflated like someone poked me with a safety pin, droopy, loose skin, kinda slim. Teddies are still DD+ but are like a pair of wet three ring socks full of mashed potatoes. When I saw her, she was in all black, her hair was disheveled and she wasn't wearing a bra. All she needs is the hat and her witch costume is set for the end of the month.
The Ugly-
Okay. So. Okay. The "spa" itself looks like the set of Sanford and Son. There's random shit and wild plants all over the place. I power through the appearance of the place and hop on the massage table face down, then immediately hop up. There's a blanket on top of the massage table, and, okay, You remember when you were 14 and you started doing your own laundry? Remember how your pillowcase smelled like 9 months of face, drool and good nights sleep because you didn't know you're supposed to change your sheets once every couple weeks? Yeah. The spot where I put my face smelled twice that bad. I asked that a sheet or towels be placed on the table, as the horrors that I imagine would be revealed with a black light filled me with nausea.
Total damage 150.
So there you are. If you're interested in getting an above average tugger from a lady who is a rough 65 in a cluttered spa on top of a filthy comforter covered in enough DNA to provide workshops for a ten day CSI convention in Vegas, go on and make an appointment. In my opinion there are better ways to spend your money.
Frankie.
[QUOTE=FrankDigitola;5009085]
So there you are. If you're interested in getting an above average tugger from a lady who is a rough 65 in a cluttered spa on top of a filthy comforter covered in enough DNA to provide workshops for a ten day CSI convention in Vegas, go on and make an appointment. In my opinion there are better ways to spend your money.
Frankie.[/QUOTE]Too funny dude. I legit pissed myself.
[QUOTE=JmSuttr;5008538]I've been out of the area since the pandemic helping family through some issues, but I certainly have had some great Thai experiences as recently as early this year. Not sure they can all be lumped into one group but, as I said in my post, I avoid any who I know or suspect are GPS. That generally includes any with a non-local area code and also any I suspect are affiliated with known GPS-provider Laila (aka Mya). I also avoid any who post brand new ads (mostly in the Fair Lakes and Tysons area) unless I see positive reviews. And, since my preference is for a really great massage, I've stayed with locals like KK, Tara, and Nalee. There are a few others, like Sophie, Mint, and Gina, who have decent massage skills and with whom I have good chemistry. Other "honorable mentions" would include Anna, Candy (Sophie's friend in Fair Lakes), Luna, and Apple although she (Apple) can be a bit flaky and hard to schedule with. But I'm a bit older so my preference is to cultivate a rotation of established regulars rather than seek out newer (or hotter looking) providers.
I haven't dabbled in the Sugar Baby area as everything I've seen indicates that it's more effort than I'm willing to put in. To each their own, of course, but I've been mostly successful in avoiding the GPS trap by sticking with established and well-reviewed local providers. If you're a good regular client then you'll sometimes get referrals from the ladies, which is how I met Gina and Candy. There are more than enough to satisfy my need for variety but of course that may not be the case for others.[/QUOTE]I haven't seen any providers for nearly a year between some personal health issues and the pandemic. If I do so, it likely won't be around here; the GPS has become ridiculous. And GPS isn't limited to this area either. I recently participated in a discussion about a 19-year-old "spiritual intimacy coach" in York, PA advertising as an escort and wanting $500 for an hour. Yeah, right. I haven't mongered in York for some years, but I paid a fraction of that amount the last time I did so.
I suspect trying to book KK or Tara would be difficult at this time considering their high demand. Nalee's most recent ads state that she's only seeing her regulars. My visit with Sophie almost a year ago wasn't impressive enough for me to try again. I might have considered Candy, who now goes by Vicky, but one had to contact Sophie in order to schedule her. However, Sophie's most recent ads omit any mention of Vicky. Meanwhile, I have no interest in any of the Thai providers looking to make a fast buck while providing mediocre-to-poor service.
I might be taking a short trip later in the fall and am debating trying out the local talent when I get there. That is, if the price is right. In the meantime, we mongers need to hold the line and refuse to patronize providers engaging in GPS and providing poor value for the money.
Same here bi polar with me during the same week.
[QUOTE=GripNSip;5007674]She's had attitude problems with mongers in the past. Myself included. Bite enough of the hands that feed you, and you may find yourself going hungry.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=MangoBalls78;5009038]Has anyone been to Sky Energy Therapy? Did a google search, rub maps and TER and nothing.
[URL]https://washingtondc.craigslist.org/nva/bts/d/vienna-asia-massage/7205472598.html[/URL][/QUOTE]The link you posted is for a place in Vienna that is listed on rubmaps under a different name and has been discussed here. Do a search of the address on rubmaps. I went here last year. Chinese AMP. Cute Chinese girl was my provider. Crap massage but then again you can read between the lines on what to expect at this place. Paid 120 for everything covered. House fee was I think either 40 or 50 for 30 minutes. Not sure what the hourly rate is.
[QUOTE=Mdubya;5008135]I really just think she's overwhelmed. She's scheduling and doing the massages herself. Like I said before she's greedy and trying to run a one woman ship. The girl needs help or she's bound to crash. She's booking back to back appointments and I know for a fact there's not much cleaning going on in between sessions because I wasn't even out the door and she was bringing the next chump in. I would repeat because her prices are reasonable for massage. But the massage wasn't great but like I said she's the only one running the show and I'm sure her rent for that place ain't cheap.[/QUOTE]I have been itching to go see this chick in purple ever since someone said during their session, she was moaning "you have to protect me, I can get into trouble". LOL. Kind of hot for her to moan something like that as she is riding you.
I was texting w / this lovely lady when she told me I have to make a payment to secure an appointment.
[URL]https://nova.bedpage.com/Bodyrubs/3396450638/9759002.html[/URL]
[QUOTE=Serpico99;5009799]The link you posted is for a place in Vienna that is listed on rubmaps under a different name and has been discussed here. Do a search of the address on rubmaps. I went here last year. Chinese AMP. Cute Chinese girl was my provider. Crap massage but then again you can read between the lines on what to expect at this place. Paid 120 for everything covered. House fee was I think either 40 or 50 for 30 minutes. Not sure what the hourly rate is.[/QUOTE]Agree with Serpico. Visited pre COVID. Two parlors close to each other one is 311 Maple Ave (the one in the link and the other is 307 Maple Ave. The 307 provides 3 choices, a table shower and the full option can run you 2 x the house fee of $70. The 311 option is staffed by NY girls that rotate periodically. I have never had a fun session at 311, but did get the standard NoVA finish (no shower here) for the standard fee+ public house charge for an hour massage.
After many sleepless nights due to COVID concerns, I had a dream about Herndon Therapy. I dreamt that I met Tina, who was a very attractive woman in her 30's with a terrific body. No sign of baby damage, nice curvy hips especially for an Asian lady. Perky B's with nice pointers. She was friendly and a little talkative, very personable. 1 hr with table shower for. 8. The full package for +$ Never experienced CBJ that I liked but she changed my mind. Very good. Unbelievable kitty. Recommend!
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When you say NY it gives me hope again as someone who's only had bad experiences with Chinese AMPs with memories of walking in and getting a very, very "experienced" masseuse.
You say the sessions weren't fun, but were the masseuses attractive?
[QUOTE=Serpico99;5009807]I have been itching to go see this chick in purple ever since someone said during their session, she was moaning "you have to protect me, I can get into trouble". LOL. Kind of hot for her to moan something like that as she is riding you.[/QUOTE]Glad to know I'm not the only one to have that reaction. LOL.
Ice actually seen her twice pre-Covid. Both times standard nova. First time she was flirty and fun. 2nd time was all business and demanded more $. So I haven't been back.
[QUOTE=SunCap3;5008323]5 years ago, if you were tired or fed up with the Korean AMP scene there were very few venues for you to go to. And then all of sudden there was a influx of Thai independents that basically made K AMP's obsolete. What you could get for a dollar to dollar comparison was incredible, all by a provider that was much more attractive and enthusiastic.
Now we are in a very weird economical standing with Thai Providers. There are significantly more of them, competition has never been greater, and because of Corona there are fewer dollars out there. It makes little business sense that now would be the time for less desirable Thai providers to increase their rate and decrease their service but that is what we are facing. I doubt very much that the market will be able to support this trend for much longer.
5 years is a long time in this industry and I have not had a pleasant thai experience in 2-3 years. I suggest that because of the current economic situation we are all in that you would be greater served in the sugar daddy arena.[/QUOTE]The phrase "stag-flation" (or stag-Flagellation) comes to mind (minds to cum).
Regardless of circumstances. Always be nice to the ladies.
PA.
This is not how they taught economics in college. The supply is large (size of pool and provider) so they raise the prices and provide lower quality of service.
Sadly, Virginia has always known for accepting the lower quality usually at a cost.
Sad but we allowed this path and now we have to live deal with it.
[QUOTE=SunCap3;5008323]5 years ago, if you were tired or fed up with the Korean AMP scene there were very few venues for you to go to. And then all of sudden there was a influx of Thai independents that basically made K AMP's obsolete. What you could get for a dollar to dollar comparison was incredible, all by a provider that was much more attractive and enthusiastic.
Now we are in a very weird economical standing with Thai Providers. There are significantly more of them, competition has never been greater, and because of Corona there are fewer dollars out there. It makes little business sense that now would be the time for less desirable Thai providers to increase their rate and decrease their service but that is what we are facing. I doubt very much that the market will be able to support this trend for much longer.
5 years is a long time in this industry and I have not had a pleasant thai experience in 2-3 years. I suggest that because of the current economic situation we are all in that you would be greater served in the sugar daddy arena.[/QUOTE]
Gina was nice but the service was not worth the price.
[URL]https://nova.bedpage.com/Bodyrubs/walk-in-available-massage-haircut-pedicure-manicure-by-cate-ling-jan/9740123.html[/URL]
There appear to be more spa services available. If the massage is not up to par the other services might be.
[QUOTE=JmSuttr;5007454]Unfortunately, the DMV is a magnet for overpriced providers and we've gotten even more over the last 2-3 years. From the location in the ad I'm wondering if she's one of the women who work with Laila / Mya.
[URL]https://www.eros.com/washington_dc/files/9864874.htm?cat=1[/URL]
[URL]https://nova.bedpage.com/bodyrubs/mclean-tyson-rsquo-s-open-now/9593637.html[/URL]
They usually work out of a gated apt complex near Tysons Mall and the Kaiser medical center. All are GPS to the extreme and have average to non-existent massage skills. I tend to avoid any Thai masseuse with a non-local phone number unless / until there's positive intel on the forum.
120 should absolutely include a release as you can get a great legit massage for 60-80 + tip.[/QUOTE]
I had a wonderful workout session with Seven at VIP in Greenbelt ([URL]https://dc.rubratings.com/126740[/URL]). Standard GB menu (everything covered) and price ($210) but Seven made it fun. She is tall, slender, fit (all muscle, not an ounce of fat) and sweet. Constantly laughing and teasing. She provided a through table shower with a near release followed by a decent medium hard massage. She likes to ride and pounded me like a piledriver. I thought "She should pay me!" Finished in mission, relaxed clean up and out the door. It is a long drive from northern Virginia but I have yet to find a similar AMP service in northern Virginia. Please share if you find one. Recommend booking Seven. Your trip will be worth the trek.
[QUOTE=JmSuttr;5007454]Unfortunately, the DMV is a magnet for overpriced providers and we've gotten even more over the last 2-3 years. From the location in the ad I'm wondering if she's one of the women who work with Laila / Mya.
[URL]https://www.eros.com/washington_dc/files/9864874.htm?cat=1[/URL]
[URL]https://nova.bedpage.com/bodyrubs/mclean-tyson-rsquo-s-open-now/9593637.html[/URL]
They usually work out of a gated apt complex near Tysons Mall and the Kaiser medical center. All are GPS to the extreme and have average to non-existent massage skills. I tend to avoid any Thai masseuse with a non-local phone number unless / until there's positive intel on the forum.
120 should absolutely include a release as you can get a great legit massage for 60-80 + tip.[/QUOTE]I think Jimsuttr's comment here is the key—one hour at a "legit only" massage place is typically $60 to $80, so even with the tip you're topping out at $100. Maybe $110 or $120 if you're generous or the massage was very good, but that's where things can break down with the GPS girls: they're expecting, essentially, a generous "normal" tip plus another $40 for the handshake, when the massage itself may have been nothing special to begin with. The ones who inspire the most loyalty and who don't merit the "GPS" label (in the Thai massage context) are the ones who actually care about massaging well and pleasing the client, not just collecting the tips. It's in our interest to reward the quality and downvote the slackers.
Personally, I've gone from a formerly avid Thai massage dreamer to the sugar bowl exclusively, in the last few months, precisely due to frustration over the quality of service from the $120+ ladies recently.
Although we are past the vernal eq, and recognizing the staff is very aware of and follows COVID recommendations, my last visit to the Garden in Burke was like a renewal of life in the Spring.
Thank you Lucy for a great NOVA massage experience.
Always be nice to the ladies.
PA.
[URL]https://nova.bedpage.com/therapeuticmassage/annandale/9757085.html[/URL]
Setting up was easy and when I arrived Zina gave me directions to her door. I got there and she was beautifully dressed in a snug dress that hugged her tight body.
Upon meeting I went in for a hug and lightly rubbed her butt, she giggled and slid my hand away. I thought to myself oh goodness, this could go either way.
She took my hand and walked me to the back room and asked if I needed to freshen up with a shower. I obliged and got showered, wrapped myself in the towel, and met her in the room. I got on the table and she asked to the massage first. I've had my fair share of massages and Zina's was hands down the best I've ever had! Every time she was in reach I rubbed her thighs and they were silly and just enough softness to them. I nearly drooled from her massage skills, even now hours later I feel so good and refreshed!
After the massage on my back she asked me to flip. She slowly undressed to reveal a gorgeous body, walked over to the table and began stroking my cock and body. Zina climbed onto the massage table and began licking my nipples, kissing my chest and body, stroking my cock, and then put me into her mouth.
She gave a slow BBBJ and I was in complete ecstasy. She asked if I liked it to which I replied, "fuck yeah". She giggled, got off the massage table, and asked me to join her on the bed. I got off the table and she was fixing the towel on the bed. I was standing waiting patiently and rubbing her when she was in reach. Right before getting on the bed she knelt before me and took me into her mouth and looked up at me. What a sight, this gorgeous Thai woman looking in my eyes with my raging cock sitting in her mouth. She wasn't bobbing on it at the time, just pausing with my cock in her mouth! She started sucking on it for a few minutes before inviting me to lie down. I did and she started the BBBJ again and then put the cover on. She asked how I wanted her and I asked for CG. My goodness the kitty was so freaking tight and felt so incredibly good! She rode me slowly and I was loving it, Zina is the truth!
Then I flipped her on her back and took her mish style. I pounded the hell out of her tight kitty, her hands pushing up against the wall, my hands squeezing her ass, her heavy panting, moaning, and I couldn't hold out much longer. I blew into the cover as she whispered "fill me with your cum". Made my orgasm feel even more intense! As I was slowly pulling out her kitty is so tight it held onto the cover. I laid on the bed and as she was walking to the bathroom I smacked her on the ass, she giggled and turned back to wink at me.
I took a short shower and she walked me to the door after I showered and dressed. My opinion, Zina is amazing and worth every penny!
Creepin.
[QUOTE=Creeping;5012115][URL]https://nova.bedpage.com/therapeuticmassage/annandale/9757085.html[/URL]
Setting up was easy and when I arrived Zina gave me directions to her door. I got there and she was beautifully dressed in a snug dress that hugged her tight body.
Upon meeting I went in for a hug and lightly rubbed her butt, she giggled and slid my hand away. I thought to myself oh goodness, this could go either way.
She took my hand and walked me to the back room and asked if I needed to freshen up with a shower. I obliged and got showered, wrapped myself in the towel, and met her in the room. I got on the table and she asked to the massage first. I've had my fair share of massages and Zina's was hands down the best I've ever had! Every time she was in reach I rubbed her thighs and they were silly and just enough softness to them. I nearly drooled from her massage skills, even now hours later I feel so good and refreshed!
After the massage on my back she asked me to flip. She slowly undressed to reveal a gorgeous body, walked over to the table and began stroking my cock and body. Zina climbed onto the massage table and began licking my nipples, kissing my chest and body, stroking my cock, and then put me into her mouth.
She gave a slow BBBJ and I was in complete ecstasy. She asked if I liked it to which I replied, "fuck yeah". She giggled, got off the massage table, and asked me to join her on the bed. I got off the table and she was fixing the towel on the bed. I was standing waiting patiently and rubbing her when she was in reach. Right before getting on the bed she knelt before me and took me into her mouth and looked up at me. What a sight, this gorgeous Thai woman looking in my eyes with my raging cock sitting in her mouth. She wasn't bobbing on it at the time, just pausing with my cock in her mouth! She started sucking on it for a few minutes before inviting me to lie down. I did and she started the BBBJ again and then put the cover on. She asked how I wanted her and I asked for CG. My goodness the kitty was so freaking tight and felt so incredibly good! She rode me slowly and I was loving it, Zina is the truth!
Then I flipped her on her back and took her mish style. I pounded the hell out of her tight kitty, her hands pushing up against the wall, my hands squeezing her ass, her heavy panting, moaning, and I couldn't hold out much longer. I blew into the cover as she whispered "fill me with your cum". Made my orgasm feel even more intense! As I was slowly pulling out her kitty is so tight it held onto the cover. I laid on the bed and as she was walking to the bathroom I smacked her on the ass, she giggled and turned back to wink at me.
I took a short shower and she walked me to the door after I showered and dressed. My opinion, Zina is amazing and worth every penny!
Creepin.[/QUOTE]Great review! What was the tip on top of the hr rate?
I was finally able to get a return text, met her early this week.
220 for the hr massage, but she mentioned 180 ffor half. I might go for that if I see her again.
[QUOTE=GilBang;5012262]Great review! What was the tip on top of the hr rate?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=MikelSuTiger;5012340]I was finally able to get a return text, met her early this week.
220 for the hr massage, but she mentioned 180 ffor half. I might go for that if I see her again.[/QUOTE]220, total damage!
[QUOTE=Windmill2015;5011802]I think Jimsuttr's comment here is the keyone hour at a "legit only" massage place is typically $60 to $80, so even with the tip you're topping out at $100. Maybe $110 or $120 if you're generous or the massage was very good, but that's where things can break down with the GPS girls: they're expecting, essentially, a generous "normal" tip plus another $40 for the handshake, when the massage itself may have been nothing special to begin with. The ones who inspire the most loyalty and who don't merit the "GPS" label (in the Thai massage context) are the ones who actually care about massaging well and pleasing the client, not just collecting the tips. It's in our interest to reward the quality and downvote the slackers.Personally, I've gone from a formerly avid Thai massage dreamer to the sugar bowl exclusively, in the last few months, precisely due to frustration over the quality of service from the $120+ ladies recently.[/QUOTE]One thing to consider is that, while there's a general sense of what GPS is, the definition can certainly differ from client to client.
Taking the price stucture you mentioned, good quality legit massages are readily available for 60 hr + 20 tip. For AMP sessions, 80 hr + 40 tip is a readily available price and, if you shop carefully, should include a good massage, table shower, and clothed HJ. For an independent sensual masseuse, 120 hr is directly comparable to the AMP session and that price should include at least a clothed HJ. With the indie you give up the table shower option but you usually get a higher level of privacy.
Using those price levels as a baseline, I personally don't consider any provider to be GPS if she gives the basic level of service for the base price listed above. Some might not give great massages, or maybe their HJ skills are lacking, but that's a different issue than being GPS.
I also don't consider an FBSM provider to be GPS if she sets her prices for any extras (CBJ, BBBJ, CFS, Nuru, etc.) at a level higher than I'm willing to pay. My reasoning is that she's not overcharging for the basic sensual massage and anything beyond that is subject to negotiation. I'm free to decline and stick with massage + HE for 120.
BUT, those who finish the massage and hit you up for more $$$ just to give a HJ are absolutely GPS. They know what the going rate is and they're waiting until your naked ass is on the table, balls turning blue, before hitting you with the upsell. That is not cool and definitely needs to be called out. I've also had some who tried to upsell after the flip and when I declined they either didn't want to continue the session or else did the lamest HJ imaginable. I would also put those in the GPS camp.
As you also noted, there are established local ladies who have not raised their rates and aren't trying to take advantage of clients. I agree 100% with your statement about rewarding the quality and down voting the slackers. I'm not a sugar bowl aficionado, and I'm not sure any of them would give me a massage + HJ for 120, so I'm happy to stick with a rotation of regulars with whom I have good chemistry. Also, as an established long-term client, I tend to get priority scheduling and various other perks on occasion. This strategy probably won't appeal to those who want to maximise the variety of their experiences, but it suits me pretty well.
[QUOTE=Justforme;5011569]Gina was nice but the service was not worth the price.
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There appear to be more spa services available. If the massage is not up to par the other services might be[/QUOTE]My sessions with Gina have been pretty good but she definitely is not the strongest in the massage department. Not sure what service package you purchased but my massage + HJ for 120 was more than satisfactory. The main reason I've repeated is because we have nice chemistry. That obviously won't be the case between every provider and client so all a monger can do is keep trying until they find the combination of looks, personality, service, and price that works best for them.
Although I think others got away w 180 on her last trip.
[QUOTE=Creeping;5012474]220, total damage![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=MikelSuTiger;5012656]Although I think others got away w 180 on her last trip.[/QUOTE]Oh BTW, she did mention she will only be here for another week!!
Creepin.
Has anyone taken a plunge with holly? I texted and found out that FS is not an option.
[URL]https://nova.bedpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/tyson-mclean/9756139.html[/URL]
[QUOTE=MikelSuTiger;5012340]I was finally able to get a return text, met her early this week.
220 for the hr massage, but she mentioned 180 ffor half. I might go for that if I see her again.[/QUOTE]She must have raised her rates. I saw her about 2 weeks ago for HH and it was 160.
[QUOTE=Samizza;5013197]Has anyone taken a plunge with holly? I texted and found out that FS is not an option.
[URL]https://nova.bedpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/tyson-mclean/9756139.html[/URL][/QUOTE]Location is next to Tyson's Mall. I only had a 30 min session with her and she seemed a little stressed with getting me out the door because she had an appointment right after. I think if she knew she had more time she would be a lot more relaxed. Don't know too much about her massage (she was worried about time) but she gave a standard nova.
Looks: skinny and short with man made B-Cs. Her face is pretty good imo and she is young.
Price: a little pricey. Embarrassed to say how much I tipped hoping for more than nova.
Overall: she's nice but nothing out of the ordinary. I would say go if you need a guaranteed younger spinner.
[QUOTE=PSmith0380;5008634]I had a similar experience. Booked a couple days in advance, gave her tons of info for screening, much more than what I would expect as "normal", I showed up and asked for apt number (it's now 10 minutes before appt) and 15 minutes later she said she's cancelling and that I didn't pass her screening (whatever that's supposed to mean). She hasn't responded to any follow up messages. Very odd.
Unfortunate, because I was hoping it would work out as a regular stop, I work nearby to where she provides, so I really was hoping for a monthly stop. Oh well.[/QUOTE]I also got the same experience. Emailed a few days before and screened with way more info than usual and got cancelled on an hour before. It's hard for me to find time for this hobby so it's the worst when I have to scramble to find a last minute replacement.
Anyone with info on Veenaa? Saw some mixed reviews from beginning of year, nothing since. Going to be down my way this week and was curious if I should check out.
[URL]https://tryst.link/escort/veenaa-love[/URL]
Thanks.
[QUOTE=BobbyCs;5016111]Anyone with info on Veenaa? Saw some mixed reviews from beginning of year, nothing since. Going to be down my way this week and was curious if I should check out.
[URL]https://tryst.link/escort/veenaa-love[/URL]
Thanks.[/QUOTE]I tried contacting a while ago, I think pre covid, and it was pretty difficult to schedule an appointment. I was willing to do the screening no problem but after that I think she ghosted or something and ended up not seeing her. I don't know if anyone else has had better luck. If you do see her, please let me know.
[QUOTE=PilotAviator;5011924]Although we are past the vernal eq, and recognizing the staff is very aware of and follows COVID recommendations, my last visit to the Garden in Burke was like a renewal of life in the Spring.
Thank you Lucy for a great NOVA massage experience.
Always be nice to the ladies.
PA.[/QUOTE]Have you tried both of the girls for a double session? It was a fun experience a couple months ago and the price was unbeatable. For 30 min the donation for both was 90 and the tip 40 each. I wish they would offer extras.
I will try to see if eve is up for extras, she has some nice melons. I could suck her tatas while she is jacking me off.
Has anyone seen any of the new girls? Ivy looks great. Monday is finally a day where I can get out of the house while others are still working. Would love to see someone. DM me or post here if you have intel.