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Last night I went to Kittens, their private rooms are nicer and bigger than Pandora.[/QUOTE]And cheaper.
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Last night I went to Kittens, their private rooms are nicer and bigger than Pandora.[/QUOTE]And cheaper.
[QUOTE=Toomgis;6849176]And cheaper.[/QUOTE]I've never made it out of the lap dance area with my swimmers still in my balls.
[QUOTE=BbKingg;6847721]Just follow her on Instagram.
I saw she was working yesterday and dropped a fat wad in her mouth.[/QUOTE]She the face tattoo chick?
If 15 min VIP is 300 and 30 min is 500 (negotiable), I wonder what you guys getting for OTC as it would be a good deal if it isn't anywhere near 1 k. I know in my case, I'd rather have more time than less.
Speaking of which, I could see otc being more likely if they end up serving alcohol and it somehow makes getting extras more difficult (I. E. More security or cameras).
After experiencing both VIP and the lda area for the first time, I'm not sure which I like more, surprisingly. Sometimes you just want to chat and get some variety / value and a nice release without busting the wallet. Will have to try some of the others mentioned here.
Also those curtains aren't muffling much.
[QUOTE=HelloThar;6849972]If 15 min VIP is 300 and 30 min is 500 (negotiable), I wonder what you guys getting for OTC as it would be a good deal if it isn't anywhere near 1 k. I know in my case, I'd rather have more time than less.
Speaking of which, I could see otc being more likely if they end up serving alcohol and it somehow makes getting extras more difficult (I. E. More security or cameras).
After experiencing both VIP and the lda area for the first time, I'm not sure which I like more, surprisingly. Sometimes you just want to chat and get some variety / value and a nice release without busting the wallet. Will have to try some of the others mentioned here.
Also those curtains aren't muffling much.[/QUOTE]Rates of course are a bit fluid. Even if you opt for an hour in a private room you're likely paying 5 bills on the high end (plus rent to the club). You can get OTC in the same range for sure.
Part of me likes the LDA more but I'm not shy. I remember before clubs had seperate areas and FS would take place out in the General Setting with literally guys right next to you.
[QUOTE=FromTheJump2;6849523]She the face tattoo chick?[/QUOTE]There are two tattoo chicks at Pandora. Heather and Luxe. Luxe is DTF and nasty. I don't know if Heather is DTF or nasty.
[QUOTE=TheMightyQuinn;6850203]Rates of course are a bit fluid. Even if you opt for an hour in a private room you're likely paying 5 bills on the high end (plus rent to the club). You can get OTC in the same range for sure.
Part of me likes the LDA more but I'm not shy. I remember before clubs had seperate areas and FS would take place out in the General Setting with literally guys right next to you.[/QUOTE]Yeah, from my reading of previous reports, there's a big range of rates that I've seen. Seems to have increased some the past year. Lower end is the well known dancers, middle are the girls who still give extras, high are the gps types.
LDA is $100-$200 (depends on how slow club is, dancer, what you want, and how fast you take).
15 VIP is 200-300+.
30 VIP is 200-500+.
60 VIP not much of any info because noone really does or needs this much time. Or at least I can't recall a single report saying they did 60 min.
I know for me if I'm not doing LDA, I want at least 30 min, so after $90 room + $21 cover that's $311 minimum. I've heard girls use extra free room time before to entice you to go VIP with them, but not sure how common that is or a ploy.
I think I'll do the Corona route and just do $200-300 max ($311-411 total) as anything more and I'd probably go elsewhere. I know that probably limits me for 30 min. You definitely have to get used to negotiating and / or politely declining whatever the dancers suggest as they'll throw stuff at you $200-300 above what they'll accept (even the well known ones) if you're new.
If any of this seems incorrect, feel free to say so. I don't mind overpaying here or there, but getting ripped off bothers me.
I've gone to Sugars a few times because I'm lazy and it's a bit closer to where I live than Pandora's. Honestly, I had a horrible time back when it was Dancing Bare. But in the last year and a half, almost 2 years, I've gone to Sugars and have been very surprised. I have had a few uncomfortable encounters, but same could be said with some of my experiences at some of the clubs you all visit. Currently, I look for Sia at Sugars. She's beautiful and knows how to give a guy a good time. And maybe she just "likes" me, but she's not as expensive as some of the other gals at Sugars and even Pandora's.
Anyone else gone to Sugars recently?
What's your experience like?
[QUOTE=HelloThar;6850861]Yeah, from my reading of previous reports, there's a big range of rates that I've seen. Seems to have increased some the past year. Lower end is the well known dancers, middle are the girls who still give extras, high are the gps types.
LDA is $100-$200 (depends on how slow club is, dancer, what you want, and how fast you take).
15 VIP is 200-300+.
30 VIP is 200-500+.
60 VIP not much of any info because noone really does or needs this much time. Or at least I can't recall a single report saying they did 60 min.
I know for me if I'm not doing LDA, I want at least 30 min, so after $90 room + $21 cover that's $311 minimum. I've heard girls use extra free room time before to entice you to go VIP with them, but not sure how common that is or a ploy.
I think I'll do the Corona route and just do $200-300 max ($311-411 total) as anything more and I'd probably go elsewhere. I know that probably limits me for 30 min. You definitely have to get used to negotiating and / or politely declining whatever the dancers suggest as they'll throw stuff at you $200-300 above what they'll accept (even the well known ones) if you're new.
If any of this seems incorrect, feel free to say so. I don't mind overpaying here or there, but getting ripped off bothers me.[/QUOTE]There are certainly some bottom feeders who operate a bit like McDonalds.
I know a few who offer high rates to some customers but they have their dancer logic.
1. The customer isn't appealing so she's trying to price him out of the market.
2. She knows some sucker has paid it so she's trying. Too many guys don't do well counter offering.
3. GPS.
I've done a few 60 min sessions. If you're going 2 rounds its alright. But the room prices vs hotel make this less appealing at this point to me. Dancer rates are essentially the same. Only downsides are, if she No Shows you're stuck with a hotel room (never happened to me but heard from others), most hotel rooms don't have mirros well placed like some of the private rooms, you might have to talk her into pre / post shift depending on how much she works. One major benefit is, hotel furnature isn't as noisy of club furnature.
[QUOTE=TheMightyQuinn;6851587]One major benefit is, hotel furnature isn't as noisy of club furnature.[/QUOTE]Speaking of which, one of the seats was either loose or hitting the wall in the VIP room while I've had fun in there. Something to keep in mind if the dancer is riding you. Between that and how loud some of the dancers can get makes it anything but subtle and no amount of kissing helps either, heh. I actually paced myself once between song changes as I did worry too much noise was being made. Makes me want to sit near the VIP rooms just to see how easy / hard it is to hear stuff.
I feel like with hotels, best bet is to use something like [URL]dayuse.com[/URL] that lets you cancel anytime before booking. Then tell her if she doesn't show up at least 10 minutes prior, you're canceling. I haven't done much booking myself though as I'm worried about no shows too.
[QUOTE=HelloThar;6849972]If 15 min VIP is 300 and 30 min is 500 (negotiable), I wonder what you guys getting for OTC as it would be a good deal if it isn't anywhere near 1 k. I know in my case, I'd rather have more time than less.
I could see otc being more likely if they end up serving alcohol and it somehow makes getting extras more difficult (I. E. More security or cameras).
.[/QUOTE]In my experience with California clubs, which have both varieties of alcohol and non-alcohol clubs, the supervision of the dancers is strict in the alcohol clubs. Those clubs make more money from the alcohol sales than they do from the dancers. Inspections by the alcohol beverage control board are regular and often unannounced. The non-alcohol clubs operate the same as clubs here. Mileage is freely available.
The difference is that in CA clubs, topless clubs with alcohol are limited to dancers appearing topless only on stage. They're expected to remain fully clothed elsewhere. But, some violations are known to occur. Nude clubs are pretty much like here. The dancers are allowed to be nude on stage, but are supposed to be fully clothed elsewhere. However, like CA, clubs here freely offer mileage.
[QUOTE=HelloThar;6851948]Speaking of which, one of the seats was either loose or hitting the wall in the VIP room while I've had fun in there. [/QUOTE]A lot of the seats are loose and its not exclusively Pandora's. Getting going faster and bass isn't the only thumping being heard.
[QUOTE=LSteele;6852904]A lot of the seats are loose and its not exclusively Pandora's. Getting going faster and bass isn't the only thumping being heard.[/QUOTE]Follow your dancers lead, if she's cool with it don't let it stop you and keep smashing!
[QUOTE=Context22;6853094]Follow your dancers lead, if she's cool with it don't let it stop you and keep smashing![/QUOTE]The room with the couch / bench seems best. I'm not sure what the number is, but it's something to ask. Not a fan of rooms with the same LDA chair as it's not only limiting, but it's loose.
So Friday early afternoon was about as dead as could be. I saw a number of cars out in the lot but only saw a few guys inside. At one point I wondered if it was just me and a couple others having fun in the LDA / VIP area. Makes it a little awkward and felt like a cheap fuck, especially as I'm turning girls down LOL. I know afternoons are slow and work best, but it makes me wonder how they can even sustain.
With that said though, it gave me plenty of opportunity to check out various dancers which I haven't gotten to do. It pretty much mirrors the instagram, but was able to check out Monse, Luna, Liz, Mariah, Sierra, Diamond, Mandy, and Ava. Some friendly banter with all, nothing explicit for now. Liz working it with her friendliness and could tell Mandy was the type you guys said you have to be careful negotiating with. It's interesting putting a face to intel and outside the obvious, most were pretty fit. Gave me some ideas on who to pick for dancers some other day. Probably Ava, she's a hot af Asian to me and hell, would be up for making out if she let me. Reading old reports, she's really up there though -- does she at least do uncovered HJs?
Had fun in VIP for HH with 2nd most active Latina we all know. Damage after everything including room / cover was $421. I'm definitely limited by preferring the HH route, even after negotiating, but might stick to LDA for a bit to feel out the other girls next time, both literally and figuratively. Also, Monse swung by as I've seen her before and gave me some useful tidbits regarding girls and dos / donts. Ultimate thing I got out of it was to stick to using intel here or who she suggests as asking for extras on too many girls can put you on people's radar. Told her I was just casually talking with people today, but thought it was interesting, though don't know how true. I guess she assumed I was asking for everything from every dancer I turned down LOL.
Also, damn, you get some crazy numbers if you let the girls set the prices initially. I can't remember what I heard as I usually ignore it and counter with my own, but good reminder that all the dancers will take advantage of you if you let them and they don't know you. For sure don't say what you have, but what you're willing to pay. I'm sure I'm overpaying for things, but figure with me being more new, I don't mind for now.
[QUOTE=HelloThar;6853802]The room with the couch / bench seems best. I'm not sure what the number is, but it's something to ask. Not a fan of rooms with the same LDA chair as it's not only limiting, but it's loose.
So Friday early afternoon was about as dead as could be. I saw a number of cars out in the lot but only saw a few guys inside. At one point I wondered if it was just me and a couple others having fun in the LDA / VIP area. Makes it a little awkward and felt like a cheap fuck, especially as I'm turning girls down LOL. I know afternoons are slow and work best, but it makes me wonder how they can even sustain.
With that said though, it gave me plenty of opportunity to check out various dancers which I haven't gotten to do. It pretty much mirrors the instagram, but was able to check out Monse, Luna, Liz, Mariah, Sierra, Diamond, Mandy, and Ava. Some friendly banter with all, nothing explicit for now. Liz working it with her friendliness and could tell Mandy was the type you guys said you have to be careful negotiating with. It's interesting putting a face to intel and outside the obvious, most were pretty fit. Gave me some ideas on who to pick for dancers some other day. Probably Ava, she's a hot af Asian to me and hell, would be up for making out if she let me.
Had fun in VIP for HH with 2nd most active Latina we all know. Damage after everything including room / cover was $421. I'm definitely limited by preferring the HH route, even after negotiating, but might stick to LDA for a bit to feel out the other girls next time, both literally and figuratively. Also, Monse swung by as I've seen her before and gave me some useful tidbits regarding girls and dos / donts. Ultimate thing I got out of it was to stick to using intel here or who she suggests as asking for extras on too many girls can put you on people's radar. Told her I was just casually talking with people today, but thought it was interesting, though don't know how true. I guess she assumed I was asking for everything from every dancer I turned down LOL.
Also, damn, you get some crazy numbers if you let the girls set the prices initially. I can't remember what I heard as I usually ignore it and counter with my own, but good reminder that all the dancers will take advantage of you if you let them and they don't know you. For sure don't say what you have, but what you're willing to pay. I'm sure I'm overpaying for things, but figure with me being more new, I don't mind for now.[/QUOTE]You're thinking of room 4, that's the duo room. Don't over think the seating arrangements, you can always bend your dancer over and hit it from behind.