Verification and screening
[QUOTE=Andante;6115876]So Pillock, can you please explain how verification normally works? I ask because it seems like "higher end" ladies require more. For example, there's Asteria Wolf here in CBUS. She has great reviews and is definitely legit. Her website says she requires:
A photo of your driver's license or other valid, government-issued I'd (name, photo, and birth date visible, other information may be censored if you wish).
A photo of yourself holding your I'd next to your face so I can see you match the photo.
There are many ways that I can verify employment. If your name or photo show up on a company website, if you have a well-established LinkedIn profile, or if you can send me an image of your work I'd.
Here's her website: [URL]https://asteriawolf.com/contact/[/URL].
Seems that this keeps her safe as well as me. Do you just say "no way" and move on to someone else?[/QUOTE]Saying "no way" and moving on to someone else is exactly what a high end provider will do to you if she can't screen you somehow. I have p411 and usually they don't do any screening beyond that, but someone like Asteria Wolf isn't some crack * living in a trap house in the Hilltop. I personally wouldn't have a problem with her screening if I was interested in her. She is friends with another provider I have seen multiple times.
You've got to sort out the apples and oranges here. SWs and Listcrawler girls are a different animal. Decide which sandbox you'd rather play in, or play in both but realize the difference. More often than not, the difference is a drug habit. And most of those girls often won't screen you beyond asking "you're not a cop are you?" which just shows how stupid they are. The other difference of course is price, the high end girls are often quite a bit more but are much safer and typically the worst that can happen is bad service, vs. Getting robbed, sent to the health clinic, or the Uncle's house.
Pic ok for High end Providers with good reviews.
[QUOTE=RickMann;6113641]Send only to high end girls or agency.[/QUOTE]I don't know about Ohio, but in Florida as long as there no verbage about the act, it's not illegal to do that. I can't afford that level of service, so I can't help you from an experience stand point. Also if you can afford that route you should be able to use her as a reference, and only do it once.
Women who do this tend to not be exceptionally stable.
[QUOTE=BoxcarRazor;6115909]It's ultimately up to you how far you're willing to go to see the girls you want. I have provided multiple forms of identification for multiple women in my short time in the game, but I exclusively seek out higher end talent. If you don't feel comfortable verifying that's fine, but then you are limiting yourself to the kind of providers that are the very reason you feel uneasy in the first place.[/QUOTE]WOMEN WHO DO THIS TEND TO NOT BE EXCEPTIONALLY STABLE.
If a provider decided to really come after you, and saved up incriminating evidence against you to blackmail you, or just flipped TF out and decided to out every monger she could and you were included.. How bad could you be hurt personally and financially? I know of this happening from Indy's (RIP) at least 3 times, all three considered "high end" girls at the time, in the $300 to $500 range between 09 and 15.
Are you married, have kids, would your boss care, are you in the public eye, are you a deacon at your church and you'd blow your brains out if a hooker showed up to out you during revival week?
If a hooker with your info really couldn't hurt you, I.D. yourself to them if you want, invite them to your house for outcall if they're semi sane and you do your research.. If a desperate woman can prove you pay money to bang hookers could really do serious damage to your life, don't go passed joining a verification service like P411.
Yes, it does happen. Yes, a mad or desperate enough provider will blackmail you. Yes, a mad, crazy or desperate enough hooker/provider will out you if blackmail doesn't work as proof to other mongers she'll really do it. Yes, a hooker pushed to her limit by the life might just break and go psycho and out every monger they have enough info on to out because they got ass raped for the last time and literally lost their sanity and they decide to strike out against everybody.
WOMEN WHO DO THIS TEND TO NOT BE EXCEPTIONALLY STABLE. There are some truly decent, moral (when it comes to everything but sex ) women that sell pussy because it can be very good easy money. I've known several, hell, I'm friends with a few ex providers that are out of the game, living normal lives for years now, over all really nice women. With that being said, go back and read the headline again.
WOMEN WHO DO THIS TEND TO NOT BE EXCEPTIONALLY STABLE.
Anyone visited Asian providers from ads?
Has anyone seen the providers from the advertisement below? Is this real?
[URL]https://www.adultlook.com/p/3247929[/URL]
I texted both numbers in the ads, and got the location in UA. The hotel looks nice and got the pictures of the providers via couple text exchanges, no verification just booking. Has anyone pulled the trigger and visited the place? Wondering the look, experience and age of the providers.
Thanks.
Crazy girls are not your only risk.
Few years ago, somebody tried to blackmail me. Not a provider, but a Bitcoin blackmailer. But they did not have my full info, just my P411 I'd, an email address (where they sent the blackmail) that I only used for hobbying, and my first name.
I notified P411, just in case they were breached. They yelled at me: Don't reuse passwords across multiple sites, yadda, yadda, yadda. Except I hadn't. I use a password manager and long random passwords. And not an online one, but a local encrypted one that sits on an encrypted laptop running Linux. That, and the fact they didn't have any other info on me made me certain I was not the breach. I know at least one other monger that got the same threat, but there did not seem to be a widespread hack of P411 (because every hooker board would have been on fire with the news).
What most likely happened is that either a provider's email account or laptop was compromised. Now imagine if that laptop had my real name and normal email address on it? Imagine if evidence you banged hookers was in the hands of foreign cybercriminals?
Crazy Girls Are Not Your Only Risk
[QUOTE=Minnanon;6117683]Few years ago, somebody tried to blackmail me. Not a provider, but a Bitcoin blackmailer. But they did not have my full info, just my P411 I'd, an email address (where they sent the blackmail) that I only used for hobbying, and my first name.
What most likely happened is that either a provider's email account or laptop was compromised. Now imagine if that laptop had my real name and normal email address on it? Imagine if evidence you banged hookers was in the hands of foreign cybercriminals?[/QUOTE]It may be less of a risk than before but in the past there were also blackmail sites that paid people to capture names, pictures and telephone numbers of random men on dating and mongering sites. They would then post the info on sites with names like ExposingJohns or PredatorAlert. They made sure your info would pop up if searched. I saw some real names and pictures on those sites. They caught some of my fake info. I was contacted by an ostensibly third party who offered to get the info taken down in exchange for a four figure fee. I ignored them but it ruined my burner number at the time. Imagine anyone, including a potential provider, doing a search and finding info labelling you a predator. I am more cautious now. The profile that did this to me was a 'woman' from the Columbus area.
BAM.
Move it to the tips and tricks board
For fucks sake isn't this the escort review board? Seems to have turned into some shitty group text thread rehashing old advice and debate about best practices. Admins move this shit to the appropriate board please.
Tactical Response Group on Facebook
[QUOTE=Columbus51;6099082]She is with Rose on STG.
[URL]https://columbus.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/rose--new-here-text-or-call-le/165265277977[/URL][/QUOTE]See Tactical Response Group on Facebook for info. Also seen info on Pickaway County Sheriff page. Seems to have a lot of LE activity. Even felony charges and mental health issues. Approach at your own risk.
Crazy ladies and blackmail
Tbobber.
Your post about crazy ladies is a great reminder not to think with too small a head. Super helpful to a newbie like me. I think it's easy to get distracted by the "candy" and think only about the experience they provide, instead of thinking about everything else as well.
YoungOne 23. Not giving any of that info to someone from STG or LC is common sense. As you suggest. So how do you verify with someone from one of those sites? I want to stay as safe as possible. Honestly, I'm almost 100% going to stick with a couple of ladies I've mentioned before, and I'm joining P411 later today, but I really want to know how verification is done with a "regular" girl. As they say. To be forewarned is to be forearmed.
BamBam. That story of attempted blackmail is convincing. No wonder your advice always seems so spot on from the gitgo. You've made a convinced "convert."
Traildog. I don't care what forum it's in. This stuff is really helpful to me, and to others as well. If the mod wants to move it, that's fine with me. I have no control over that stuff anyway. No one had posted in tips and tricks for a very long time, which makes it seem like a dead forum to me.
This one (I'm not allowed to use her real name)
[QUOTE=BikerRon11;6119625]Any info on this one?
[URL]https://columbus.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/just-the-tip-/792324027816[/URL][/QUOTE]I've resisted posting on her because I don't like being snarky. But, since you asked, I've plenty of experience with her. None of it good. First time she warned me repeatedly not to sleep in and miss our appointment. What does she do, same thing. Second time after posting a screed about guys standing her up, you guessed it. My brother if you have better options use them and avoid her.