WYP, SA, and other SD sites

[QUOTE=NormGerd;5639929]Gentlemen,

We need a Union! Please please please don't pay these outrageous prices. And I include in that anything over $$$ Even that is steep for a non-pro.

Statistically, the ladies outnumber the men by a wide margin. Prices should be lower, not higher when there is a surplus! When you pay $$$ or even $$$$ you are floating the market way above where it should be. Sure, she is hot, but so is the next one down the line. You set expectations when you overpay like that.

Back when I started, sometimes the allowance wasn't even discussed. One DC sugar baby let me come to her apartment on the first date, and spend several hours in nirvana with her. She actually made the first move! (and she was a stacked Brazilian chick. All natural! Oooh I miss her). When I left, I left $$ because we never discussed the $. She could not wait to see me again. I saw her regularly for quite a while. Eventually we moved on to dinner out and overn night stays at her apartment. All for $$. She was a true sb, in that I think she was not in it solely for the money. I remember buying her a few inexpensive Christmas gifts (a dvd player, etc) and hooking it up for her. It was about $30 or $40, and you would have thought I bought her a gold watch.) Even though I just stopped by to drop her gift, she practically ripped my clothes off in gratitude.

The bottom line is this part of the hobby has become very transactional. Its a sad turn from when there was more than the money. I connected with quite a few sbs, and often they were looking for more than just cash, as in some emotional and physical support. They knew boys their age could not supply all three. For me, I got to date much younger, hotter women. But it was like dating in many respects. I miss those days.

I am sure I will get flamed, but there was a monger in a group I used to belong to who lived in LA. He had a perfect formula for low price, high quality sbs. I wish I could remember his name, but he would pay $ to $.5. In LA!! If a woman wasn't interested he moved on. Guess what, the numbers worked in his advantage. there was always someone willing to date him at those prices.

Flame retardant suit on...

Norm![/QUOTE]If you treat it like a marathon and not a sprint it pays off.

Have just been sticking with the one SB I met months ago, all the others are asking way to high a price, escort prices were lower and more worth it. Spring and summer is more fun to me to practice the hobby though, autumn and winter it is only good if your not having to travel far.

The selection is also better in the warm seasons that I have noticed as well.

Any experience?

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/4fa023a6-48f3-4fd3-b4dd-25d6b03249f0[/URL]

Account is somewhat new but I feel like she may have been around before.

[QUOTE=BuffBill75;5639766]Ever had a SB you've been hanging with for a few months and developed a friendship and understanding with suddenly block you with no warning or explanation? I swear I don't understand these ladies sometimes.[/QUOTE]Yep. Has happened to me a number of times. In most cases they reached back out to me after the end of a serious relationship.

Usually they end up dating someone casually and so don't mind banging you. Then things get serious and they don't have the maturity to have a conversation about wanting space to see where the relationship goes with someone. Once it ends they don't want to date again and most semi sane girls dislike having to wade through the dumpster fire of SA. That's when she will reach back out so she has someone to bang and some spending cash along with companionship.

[QUOTE=NormGerd;5639929]Gentlemen,

We need a Union! Please please please don't pay these outrageous prices. And I include in that anything over $$$ Even that is steep for a non-pro.

Statistically, the ladies outnumber the men by a wide margin. Prices should be lower, not higher when there is a surplus! When you pay $$$ or even $$$$ you are floating the market way above where it should be. Sure, she is hot, but so is the next one down the line. You set expectations when you overpay like that.

Back when I started, sometimes the allowance wasn't even discussed. One DC sugar baby let me come to her apartment on the first date, and spend several hours in nirvana with her. She actually made the first move! (and she was a stacked Brazilian chick. All natural! Oooh I miss her). When I left, I left $$ because we never discussed the $. She could not wait to see me again. I saw her regularly for quite a while. Eventually we moved on to dinner out and overn night stays at her apartment. All for $$. She was a true sb, in that I think she was not in it solely for the money. I remember buying her a few inexpensive Christmas gifts (a dvd player, etc) and hooking it up for her. It was about $30 or $40, and you would have thought I bought her a gold watch.) Even though I just stopped by to drop her gift, she practically ripped my clothes off in gratitude.

The bottom line is this part of the hobby has become very transactional. Its a sad turn from when there was more than the money. I connected with quite a few sbs, and often they were looking for more than just cash, as in some emotional and physical support. They knew boys their age could not supply all three. For me, I got to date much younger, hotter women. But it was like dating in many respects. I miss those days.

I am sure I will get flamed, but there was a monger in a group I used to belong to who lived in LA. He had a perfect formula for low price, high quality sbs. I wish I could remember his name, but he would pay $ to $.5. In LA!! If a woman wasn't interested he moved on. Guess what, the numbers worked in his advantage. there was always someone willing to date him at those prices.

Flame retardant suit on...

Norm![/QUOTE]Agreed 100%.

It seems that the game is changing.

[QUOTE=ShortMan22;5641025]Agreed 100%.

It seems that the game is changing.[/QUOTE]Yep, but the more things change the more they stay the same. IMHO, it's always about game vs cash. If you work out, dress nice, have enough game to get them to the m&g without discussing numbers up front, and you work your charm, still possible to get an SB to join you in the FC for $350 or less in the bmore area.

As always, guys with cash who either don't have game or don't enjoy playing, will just drop insane amounts to land the same trip. I mean if you were a Bitcoin billionaire and had more cash than you knew what to do with, an extra few hundred to land a new girl every night means nothing.

7-10 years ago, $200 was my limit and guys were throwing around $500 to be the first to break in a 18 yr old innocent freshman. No question it's harder these days since so many dudes seem to have insane cash piles, but just means those of us without it need to step up our game.

[QUOTE=ProCatHunter;5640993]Yep. Has happened to me a number of times. In most cases they reached back out to me after the end of a serious relationship.

Usually they end up dating someone casually and so don't mind banging you. Then things get serious and they don't have the maturity to have a conversation about wanting space to see where the relationship goes with someone. Once it ends they don't want to date again and most semi sane girls dislike having to wade through the dumpster fire of SA. That's when she will reach back out so she has someone to bang and some spending cash along with companionship.[/QUOTE]My dad always used to say girls are like monkeys on a vine. They don't let go of one unless they have another in their other hand.

Do you get back together with them after doing that?

[QUOTE=FairFight;5611955]Planning on hunting SB's. Once the seasonal discount comes to my email.

1) typically what offer is acceptable for sleepover?

2) I live in dc. Is it better to wine and dine in DC or just get a hotel in baltimore?[/QUOTE]I mainly hunt in DC but I also grab the occasional Bmore SB. I rent a room in Bmore and make the trip. If she's a keeper and you like to wine and dine, let her come down on the train (amtrak / marc) wine / dine / lay then drop her off at the station. DC is better for nightlife in my opinion, so once I have a good Bmore SB I just bring them in on Amtrak. Cheap ride.

[QUOTE=ProCatHunter;5641039]Yep, but the more things change the more they stay the same. IMHO, it's always about game vs cash. If you work out, dress nice, have enough game to get them to the m&g without discussing numbers up front, and you work your charm, still possible to get an SB to join you in the FC for $350 or less in the bmore area.

As always, guys with cash who either don't have game or don't enjoy playing, will just drop insane amounts to land the same trip. I mean if you were a Bitcoin billionaire and had more cash than you knew what to do with, an extra few hundred to land a new girl every night means nothing.

7-10 years ago, $200 was my limit and guys were throwing around $500 to be the first to break in a 18 yr old innocent freshman. No question it's harder these days since so many dudes seem to have insane cash piles, but just means those of us without it need to step up our game.[/QUOTE]Just in time to add to this discussion, I stumbled across a Reddit thread which has a listing of allowances, posted by individuals (for whatever it is worth.) Some folks in NYC and LA are paying as little as 500 per meet. Something to think about when you are offering Baltimore girls this kind of dough.

Please stop!

Norm!

Yep. Three out of my current rotation of 5 are priors that ghosted and then reappeared. Was 4 out of 6 a few weeks ago but one of my priors went dark again. Was probably going to let that one drop anyway because she was insistent on protection. She probably found a new dude.

Couple of good things about priors is that they tend to be much more comfortable the second time around. Almost like they forgot we initially met off a sugar site. They all also have gotten comfortable enough with me to have me at their places, no longer require protection (I cum in their ass or mouth so don't worry about juniors), and cook the occasional meal for me. It makes me quite happy because I don't have to pay for hotels with them and they take care of the occasional meal costs. They are all also rebounding from prior serious relationships so they truly don't want something serious. They want companionship and good sex with a guy who helps them out.

None of them have reopened the app in months or years so their allowance is still set at amounts that we discussed way back when we first met.

It's nice not having a need to deal with the current madness out there. Best part is that all the priors let me take their anal virginity as a olive branch for ghosting. I'm not so naive as to think that they're telling me the truth, but holy shit, each of their reactions when I first filled them up are memories I'll never forget. As tight as they are, I'm happy to believe them.

*this post was in response to the other post asking if my priors came back but looks like I responded to the wrong one.

[QUOTE=ProCatHunter;5641039]Yep, but the more things change the more they stay the same. IMHO, it's always about game vs cash. If you work out, dress nice, have enough game to get them to the m&g without discussing numbers up front, and you work your charm, still possible to get an SB to join you in the FC for $350 or less in the bmore area.

As always, guys with cash who either don't have game or don't enjoy playing, will just drop insane amounts to land the same trip. I mean if you were a Bitcoin billionaire and had more cash than you knew what to do with, an extra few hundred to land a new girl every night means nothing.

7-10 years ago, $200 was my limit and guys were throwing around $500 to be the first to break in a 18 yr old innocent freshman. No question it's harder these days since so many dudes seem to have insane cash piles, but just means those of us without it need to step up our game.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=NormGerd;5641957]Just in time to add to this discussion, I stumbled across a Reddit thread which has a listing of allowances, posted by individuals (for whatever it is worth.) Some folks in NYC and LA are paying as little as 500 per meet. Something to think about when you are offering Baltimore girls this kind of dough.

Please stop!

Norm![/QUOTE]Are either not reading this thread because the girls are dropping the panties for the prices the are paying. Either that, or they are fine with everyone else keeping prices lower and outbidding everyone else since they are going to be able to continue to outbid all the other guys.

Best way to counter dudes who spray cash is to up your game, or offer something they're not willing to offer. Ie long term recurring thing. Frankly if I had that kind of cash I probably would be banging a new fresh face every night.

[QUOTE=Onexxxva;5641331]I mainly hunt in DC but I also grab the occasional Bmore SB. I rent a room in Bmore and make the trip. If she's a keeper and you like to wine and dine, let her come down on the train (amtrak / marc) wine / dine / lay then drop her off at the station. DC is better for nightlife in my opinion, so once I have a good Bmore SB I just bring them in on Amtrak. Cheap ride.[/QUOTE]Better food and nightlife options but costs are higher. Found that the average tab is anywhere between 20-50% higher in DC, with higher end for trendier spots. If you drop 3. 5 bills on allowance, 1. 5 bills for hotel (after taxes and fees), 1. 5 bills for a meal, you're closer to 5 bills in Baltimore.

Same date will be closer to $1 k in DC after factoring in $15 for MARC (two single one way tickets). Guess if you get a discount on the allowance though by avoiding DC gps rates, you end up getting a deal by bringing a bmore Sb to you.

[QUOTE=ProCatHunter;5643664]Yep. Three out of my current rotation of 5 are priors that ghosted and then reappeared. Was 4 out of 6 a few weeks ago but one of my priors went dark again. Was probably going to let that one drop anyway because she was insistent on protection. She probably found a new dude.

Couple of good things about priors is that they tend to be much more comfortable the second time around. Almost like they forgot we initially met off a sugar site. They all also have gotten comfortable enough with me to have me at their places, no longer require protection (I cum in their ass or mouth so don't worry about juniors), and cook the occasional meal for me. It makes me quite happy because I don't have to pay for hotels with them and they take care of the occasional meal costs. They are all also rebounding from prior serious relationships so they truly don't want something serious. They want companionship and good sex with a guy who helps them out.

None of them have reopened the app in months or years so their allowance is still set at amounts that we discussed way back when we first met.

It's nice not having a need to deal with the current madness out there. Best part is that all the priors let me take their anal virginity as a olive branch for ghosting. I'm not so naive as to think that they're telling me the truth, but holy shit, each of their reactions when I first filled them up are memories I'll never forget. As tight as they are, I'm happy to believe them.

*this post was in response to the other post asking if my priors came back but looks like I responded to the wrong one.[/QUOTE]How did you handle it when they disappeared? I sent one text asked what her schedule was for the week. One saying hey is everything OK with you a few days later. And then one more asking if she needed to talk a few days after that and then I dropped it. Not sure if I got blocked or just ignored.

Just wants to sell pictures.

Not sure where to post this, but I have a girl looking for one guy in addition to me at first. Maybe add on from there. She's very picky so don't yell at me. She's looking for white, in shape, attractive, late 20's -50, preferably not vaccinated, obviously 100% clean. She is 40, 5'5, 135, white, very good looking, nice MILF body, and very sexually open. This is not a cuck situation so I will always be there and participating. If you fit the description, hit me up. Thanks!