Massage Parlor Reports

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[QUOTE=Bob521;3265811]First, thank you for your business. It's actually Mei's place. I funded the business for her and I spend a fair amount of time there doing my own work (investments and financial consulting.).

She will take you to the room. You may undress and cover yourself with the towel.

It goes without saying, and forum members are well aware, but other pointers for any legit (no / he) place are (1) Don't grab her or try to cop a feel. (2) Don't deliberately flash your junk (3) Don't ask for a HE, (4) Don't jack-off during the massage. All of this has been attempted, and it really upsets her. And it upsets me also, since we're a couple. This should seem obvious, and certainly at a place like Massage Envy, you would not try those things. AS I've said before, some of our best customers are forum members. All respectful, good guys. They appreciate a good strong massage, and they also appreciate what a nice person she is. Bob[/QUOTE].

Is the business making money yet? Are you looking for a return on your investment or are all the profits her's?

[QUOTE=Bob521;3265811]First, thank you for your business. It's actually Mei's place. I funded the business for her and I spend a fair amount of time there doing my own work (investments and financial consulting.).

She will take you to the room. You may undress and cover yourself with the towel.

It goes without saying, and forum members are well aware, but other pointers for any legit (no / he) place are (1) Don't grab her or try to cop a feel. (2) Don't deliberately flash your junk (3) Don't ask for a HE, (4) Don't jack-off during the massage. All of this has been attempted, and it really upsets her. And it upsets me also, since we're a couple. This should seem obvious, and certainly at a place like Massage Envy, you would not try those things. AS I've said before, some of our best customers are forum members. All respectful, good guys. They appreciate a good strong massage, and they also appreciate what a nice person she is. Bob[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Bob521;3265821]Speaking of taxes, its that season again and this year I'll be doing my taxes, my business taxes (as an LLC), Mei's taxes, and Mei's business taxes (as a C-Corp). If anyone has any suggestions having gone down this path before (on the massage side) I'd be really interested in advice. I know she has to pay herself a "market" wage, and we've kept good records. I "loaned" her the money so she would not owe taxes on the gift. Any other thoughts? Thanks, Bob.[/QUOTE]You can deduct all expenses on towels, paper products etc. Any internet / Comcast, advertising costs, bottles of water. But I imagine you know that already.

[QUOTE=Bob521;3265821]Speaking of taxes, its that season again and this year I'll be doing my taxes, my business taxes (as an LLC), Mei's taxes, and Mei's business taxes (as a C-Corp). If anyone has any suggestions having gone down this path before (on the massage side) I'd be really interested in advice. I know she has to pay herself a "market" wage, and we've kept good records. I "loaned" her the money so she would not owe taxes on the gift. Any other thoughts? Thanks, Bob.[/QUOTE]I use an expensive but competent accountant. Pm me if you want info.

Bob, If she's paid herself a wage the company should issue her a W2. Along with that comes withholding and paying FICA and SS to the Feds. The business profits will roll to her personal return and are not taxed at the corporate level. She probably doesn't qualify as an Independent Contractor (which any employee might) since she provides the place and all the materials for her work.

Also, any loss rolls to her personal return. Be aware that a business can only claim a loss something like 2/5 or 4/7 years otherwise it loses status and has to be declared a hobby.

The usual caveat, consult a professional tax accountant or attorney. This is not tax advice.

[QUOTE=Bob521;3265821]Speaking of taxes, its that season again and this year I'll be doing my taxes, my business taxes (as an LLC), Mei's taxes, and Mei's business taxes (as a C-Corp). If anyone has any suggestions having gone down this path before (on the massage side) I'd be really interested in advice. I know she has to pay herself a "market" wage, and we've kept good records. I "loaned" her the money so she would not owe taxes on the gift. Any other thoughts? Thanks, Bob.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=GerkinJerkin;3264016]There was a place on 18th street just west of Halsted but that place closed. There was a place around 47th & Ashland that used to run a girl in for a week but the talent was never good. Once in awhile there is a Little Village ad that will pop up but it can be shady and YMMV. No lace to make a connection. Everything covered and rubbing alcohol on junior. There are two girls out by Harlem who used to post on Backpage. I think a lot of these latinas might not want to set up shop in their own neighborhood. One of my all time favorites was a petite little latina who worked under the radar of family / friends. She was a lot of fun.[/QUOTE]The only one I knew of by 47th was on western, about a block from the Home Depot. She usually runs an add with just a pic of cleavage. I've had a decent time there a couple of times, this goes a little while back though. There was also the Latina apt in that area, not a place I would recommend. I had one decent visit at that place, which ended in a Greek lesson. My last visit there I had rubbing alcohol thrown all over me by some fat ass 50 plus year old with a hemroid.

Thus far no profit in 2016. But we have enough cash flow to sustain her and allow her to send monthly money to her Mom & Dad for their living expenses. She also donates about $100 a month to charity. We introduced ourselves to our neighbors in the mall and asked them to nominate charities for us to donate. My return on investment is karma, not cash.

[QUOTE=DMichaels69;3265968]Is the business making money yet? Are you looking for a return on your investment or are all the profits her's?[/QUOTE]

Yes. That's very helpful, thank you. The only footnote, I learned. We (she) had to be a C-corp because she is not a resident alien (yet). No green card, (yet). I can't be the owner since I still have an American wife who signs the tax return. I'm looking for tax software to handle her taxes. I use Turbo tax for my personal and investment taxes, TaxAct for my LLC, (because Turbo tax is way too expensive and my business is simple consulting and fee income).

[QUOTE=Truthfu11;3266002]Bob, If she's paid herself a wage the company should issue her a W2. Along with that comes withholding and paying FICA and SS to the Feds. The business profits will roll to her personal return and are not taxed at the corporate level. She probably doesn't qualify as an Independent Contractor (which any employee might) since she provides the place and all the materials for her work.

Also, any loss rolls to her personal return. Be aware that a business can only claim a loss something like 2/5 or 4/7 years otherwise it loses status and has to be declared a hobby.

The usual caveat, consult a professional tax accountant or attorney. This is not tax advice.[/QUOTE]

Sounds like you are working on the green card?

[QUOTE=Bob521;3266105]Yes. That's very helpful, thank you. The only footnote, I learned. We (she) had to be a C-corp because she is not a resident alien (yet). No green card, (yet). I can't be the owner since I still have an American wife who signs the tax return. I'm looking for tax software to handle her taxes. I use Turbo tax for my personal and investment taxes, TaxAct for my LLC, (because Turbo tax is way too expensive and my business is simple consulting and fee income).[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Magooski;3265981]You can deduct all expenses on towels, paper products etc. Any internet / Comcast, advertising costs, bottles of water. But I imagine you know that already.[/QUOTE]What up old man? I've let messages on your phone? You ok.

Princess is legit. I know a girl who works there. They have a few new girls and more coming in, but they're not doing anything. Yet. Probably in due time but the owners run it legit. Belmont is the go-to. Hard to go wrong there.

[QUOTE=ChedLet64;3261745]Been reading TER, EROS, Here, Reddit, Rubmaps for a few weeks now. I am ready. Where should I try first?

I am thinking Princess on Belmont. Also considering Latin or Belmont Spa. I would appreciate some advisement if you can reply or PM. Thanks.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Bob521;3266105]Yes. That's very helpful, thank you. The only footnote, I learned. We (she) had to be a C-corp because she is not a resident alien (yet). No green card, (yet). I can't be the owner since I still have an American wife who signs the tax return. I'm looking for tax software to handle her taxes. I use Turbo tax for my personal and investment taxes, TaxAct for my LLC, (because Turbo tax is way too expensive and my business is simple consulting and fee income).[/QUOTE]Yes, I believe C Corp status allows / requires you to pass all income and loss back to the owner in the form of a Schedule K-1. That probably also includes any payments she is sending to China. Those should be made from her income and not from business profits or as business expenses.

You are correct. C-corp is the only business structure that allows non-US citizens to own a business in the US. That said, US will still require applicable work authorization (H1 B, EAD, GC) to legally work here irrespective of whether the worker also own the business.

I would assume she has acceptable form of work authorization in place. If it is not the case, or is still under process, it might be best to review the options with an attorney.

As regards the initial seed money, the money that you loaned to L, I believe will need to get recorded in the books and may attract a gift tax if it is 14000 or more. Reference - [URL]https://www.irs.gov/businesses/small-businesses-self-employed/frequently-asked-questions-on-gift-taxes[/URL].

Also, L may be entitled to pay herself an interest for the initial loan upto 8% APR until the business is able to return the loan. Also, if properly documented, she should be able to take back the loan without having to pay any taxes on that.

Again I'm not a legal professional and what I say may or may not exactly apply in your situation. So pl. Consult with one so you will have appropriate defenses to safeguard your situation.

[QUOTE=Bob521;3266105]Yes. That's very helpful, thank you. The only footnote, I learned. We (she) had to be a C-corp because she is not a resident alien (yet). No green card, (yet). I can't be the owner since I still have an American wife who signs the tax return. I'm looking for tax software to handle her taxes. I use Turbo tax for my personal and investment taxes, TaxAct for my LLC, (because Turbo tax is way too expensive and my business is simple consulting and fee income).[/QUOTE]

Its a long long process. I still remember, about ten years ago on a business trip. I was in a hotel bar and the bartender was smiling. He said to me: "Man, this is the happiest day of my life!" Today, I became an American citizen!. It was an emotional moment, actually for both us us. The things we take for granted in this county, immigrants spend years to achieve, sacrificing everything.

[QUOTE=DMichaels69;3266125]Sounds like you are working on the green card?[/QUOTE]

I'm going to attempt it myself, unless I run into trouble. I've been doing my own taxes for 44 years. Business taxes for three years. In my own case I use tax software and only deduct or claim verifiable items. That said, the tax rules are ridiculously inane and complex. My problem this time is learning the rules for a non-resident alien, which I guess amounts to reading, and then making sure I can come up with a way to verify both income and expenses. Cash businesses, and no 1099 forms (since none of her previous jobs issued anything) are tricky. WButh the withholding nd employment taxes are very very helpful items of advice.

[QUOTE=E2304;3265986]I use an expensive but competent accountant. Pm me if you want info.[/QUOTE]

I'm laughing as I read this. Who would think I get legal and tax advice from USASG. (Don't worry, I'm not "relying" on this advice, and I will consult professional help. You're off the hook.) She does have a work permit. Although it was stolen, along with her passport and other vital documents, but I can document all that. I did document this as a $30,000 "demand loan" to her at the minimum "legal" rate.

[QUOTE=Lebruno;3267042]You are correct. C-corp is the only business structure that allows non-US citizens to own a business in the US. That said, US will still require applicable work authorization (H1 B, EAD, GC) to legally work here irrespective of whether the worker also own the business.

I would assume she has acceptable form of work authorization in place. If it is not the case, or is still under process, it might be best to review the options with an attorney.

As regards the initial seed money, the money that you loaned to L, I believe will need to get recorded in the books and may attract a gift tax if it is 14000 or more. Reference - [URL]https://www.irs.gov/businesses/small-businesses-self-employed/frequently-asked-questions-on-gift-taxes[/URL].

Also, L may be entitled to pay herself an interest for the initial loan upto 8% APR until the business is able to return the loan. Also, if properly documented, she should be able to take back the loan without having to pay any taxes on that.

Again I'm not a legal professional and what I say may or may not exactly apply in your situation. So pl. Consult with one so you will have appropriate defenses to safeguard your situation.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Bob521;3267066]I'm going to attempt it myself, unless I run into trouble. I've been doing my own taxes for 44 years. Business taxes for three years. In my own case I use tax software and only deduct or claim verifiable items. That said, the tax rules are ridiculously inane and complex. My problem this time is learning the rules for a non-resident alien, which I guess amounts to reading, and then making sure I can come up with a way to verify both income and expenses. Cash businesses, and no 1099 forms (since none of her previous jobs issued anything) are tricky. WButh the withholding nd employment taxes are very very helpful items of advice.[/QUOTE]Running a legit business makes it easier. Keep a ledger of income and actual expenses and you will be in good shape. I used to think I was up on things but I can't understand my return any more.

[QUOTE=Gopher88;3266342]What up old man? I've let messages on your phone? You ok.[/QUOTE]I see they didn't kill my voice mail yet. My job was eliminated about 4 weeks ago, on 16th. But well enough!

Thank you very much! We actually have matching Chromebooks and use Google Docs with the add-on translator. So we both can make concurrent entries of expenses and revenue in English or Chinese. I've also written contracts in Chinese and English but I found that 99% of US lawyers get upset at seeing Chinese in a contract (LOL). But that being said, I refuse to enter into a business deal with someone if they don't understand the deal.

[QUOTE=E2304;3267178]Running a legit business makes it easier. Keep a ledger of income and actual expenses and you will be in good shape. I used to think I was up on things but I can't understand my return any more.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Bob521;3267397]Thank you very much! We actually have matching Chromebooks and use Google Docs with the add-on translator. So we both can make concurrent entries of expenses and revenue in English or Chinese. I've also written contracts in Chinese and English but I found that 99% of US lawyers get upset at seeing Chinese in a contract (LOL). But that being said, I refuse to enter into a business deal with someone if they don't understand the deal.[/QUOTE]You have done your research and followed thru. For book keeping you might look into quickbooks pro. I ran a business full time for over 12 years and the last 8 or so part x. Much easier when it comes to tax season. I am still using qb pro 2005 even though I have newer machines. Let's just say there are easy hacks around the company wanting you to buy their new product from year to year. My accountant for years got me into it and I never looked back. Now as far as the translation goes. You might want to contact the company directly. Good work!

[QUOTE=StanleyStankas;3267434]You have done yourwuick books vs web online research and followed thru. For book keeping you might look into quickbooks pro. I ran a business full time for over 12 years and the last 8 or so part x. Much easier when it comes to tax season. I am still using qb pro 2005 even though I have newer machines. Let's just say there are easy hacks around the company wanting you to buy their new product from year to year. My accountant for years got me into it and I never looked back. Now as far as the translation goes. You might want to contact the company directly. Good work![/QUOTE]The online version allows offsite entry and review. You do have to pay every year however. Cosco I believe has a discount on first year.

[QUOTE=Bob521;3265811]First, thank you for your business. It's actually Mei's place. I funded the business for her and I spend a fair amount of time there doing my own work (investments and financial consulting.).

She will take you to the room. You may undress and cover yourself with the towel.

It goes without saying, and forum members are well aware, but other pointers for any legit (no / he) place are (1) Don't grab her or try to cop a feel. (2) Don't deliberately flash your junk (3) Don't ask for a HE, (4) Don't jack-off during the massage. All of this has been attempted, and it really upsets her. And it upsets me also, since we're a couple. This should seem obvious, and certainly at a place like Massage Envy, you would not try those things. AS I've said before, some of our best customers are forum members. All respectful, good guys. They appreciate a good strong massage, and they also appreciate what a nice person she is. Bob[/QUOTE]This morning was the most thorough deep tissue massage of my recollection. Mei has an impressive power to weight ratio and engineers understanding of "the proper application of leverage. " I found the experience intimate and respectful as is proper for any clinician and their patient.

I tipped enough to embarrass my therapist. She is supporting her family back home. Next time I will give less in respect of her feelings. I wish her and her business the best of success.

[QUOTE=E2304;3267558]The online version allows offsite entry and review. You do have to pay every year however. Cosco I believe has a discount on first year.[/QUOTE]Yes they have offered that, however never partook. I am winding down in my career by choice and found out after along time in the small business ownership game. You don't own a business, a business owns you! Very profitable for me, however extremely stressful. I am in my senior years now and I doubt I will ever open up another business in my lifetime. Once the passion goes so goes the energy to keep it all going. When people would tell me oh you're so lucky you don't have a boss! I said yea I do. Everyone that walks in the door or rings the phone. They are called customers!

[QUOTE=StanleyStankas;3267793]Yes they have offered that, however never partook. I am winding down in my career by choice and found out after along time in the small business ownership game. You don't own a business, a business owns you! Very profitable for me, however extremely stressful. I am in my senior years now and I doubt I will ever open up another business in my lifetime. Once the passion goes so goes the energy to keep it all going. When people would tell me oh you're so lucky you don't have a boss! I said yea I do. Everyone that walks in the door or rings the phone. They are called customers![/QUOTE]My accountant asked for it. It's expensive and I pay it.

I am new here and want to know what is a good place to get some good massage and some extra services? I am thinking between Oki Doki, Logan Tantricas or independent providers. Any guidance will be much appreciated.

I have a copy of Quickbooks Pro for my business. It's just that Mei would not likely use it. She does use Google Sheets (Google's answer to Excel).

[QUOTE=StanleyStankas;3267434]You have done your research and followed thru. For book keeping you might look into quickbooks pro. I ran a business full time for over 12 years and the last 8 or so part x. Much easier when it comes to tax season. I am still using qb pro 2005 even though I have newer machines. Let's just say there are easy hacks around the company wanting you to buy their new product from year to year. My accountant for years got me into it and I never looked back. Now as far as the translation goes. You might want to contact the company directly. Good work![/QUOTE]

Thank you again for visiting us. And thank you for your generosity. When I first met her we would argue over the size of the tip also. Our ultimate resolution was to give excess money to charity.

[QUOTE=E2304;3267571]This morning was the most thorough deep tissue massage of my recollection. Mei has an impressive power to weight ratio and engineers understanding of "the proper application of leverage. " I found the experience intimate and respectful as is proper for any clinician and their patient.

I tipped enough to embarrass my therapist. She is supporting her family back home. Next time I will give less in respect of her feelings. I wish her and her business the best of success.[/QUOTE]

Well said. I've told Mei that when we get married we would sell the business and travel the world. Now, I'm a part time electrician, plumber, accountant, salesman, lawyer, webmaster, cleaning guy, etc.

[QUOTE=StanleyStankas;3267793]Yes they have offered that, however never partook. I am winding down in my career by choice and found out after along time in the small business ownership game. You don't own a business, a business owns you! Very profitable for me, however extremely stressful. I am in my senior years now and I doubt I will ever open up another business in my lifetime. Once the passion goes so goes the energy to keep it all going. When people would tell me oh you're so lucky you don't have a boss! I said yea I do. Everyone that walks in the door or rings the phone. They are called customers![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Bob521;3268052]Thank you again for visiting us. And thank you for your generosity. When I first met her we would argue over the size of the tip also. Our ultimate resolution was to give excess money to charity.[/QUOTE]What does Mei consider a fair appreciation for her services? (Ballpark).

[QUOTE=Bob521;3268061]Well said. I've told Mei that when we get married we would sell the business and travel the world. Now, I'm a part time electrician, plumber, accountant, salesman, lawyer, webmaster, cleaning guy, etc.[/QUOTE]Been there done that! Now I am trying to get out to las vegas buy a little place, monger on occasion and watch the tourist spend money! Also being a landlord in a high end downtown area like I have been for the last 2 years (owned for 10) sucks! I don't own a place in the west loop it owns me! Stress? Yep they are called tenants! The more they pay the more they want! Down there one is not a landlord in as much as a concierge! That place is the next to be kicked to the curb! Let's see. Business gone? Check condo gone? Check last drunk crazy hot gf gone? Yep check. Long ago! Ok time to live again!

Bob, when are you and Mei getting married?

[QUOTE=Bob521;3268061]Well said. I've told Mei that when we get married we would sell the business and travel the world. Now, I'm a part time electrician, plumber, accountant, salesman, lawyer, webmaster, cleaning guy, etc.[/QUOTE]

Don't you just love people? Customers? Tenants? They are wonderful. LOL.

[QUOTE=StanleyStankas;3268289]Been there done that! Now I am trying to get out to las vegas buy a little place, monger on occasion and watch the tourist spend money! Also being a landlord in a high end downtown area like I have been for the last 2 years (owned for 10) sucks! I don't own a place in the west loop it owns me! Stress? Yep they are called tenants! The more they pay the more they want! Down there one is not a landlord in as much as a concierge! That place is the next to be kicked to the curb! Let's see. Business gone? Check condo gone? Check last drunk crazy hot gf gone? Yep check. Long ago! Ok time to live again![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Alfonso82;3217223]How much did you spend with Cici for house fee and tip? I've been seeing Kendy at their other location off Chicago Ave in Oak Park. Really nice Asian will the perfect rack. Usually adds a prostate touch to the finish. I got her number and visited her home as well. Trying for more than just a stand finish but nothing yet. Might go back to her place again to seal the deal. Last time she double booked me and I went anyway so she can take care of me in the bathroom. Just gave her. 25 so it was a steal. I hope the guy on the table didn't mind waiting for a few more minutes.

[URL]http://chicago.craigslist.org/wcl/thp/5946512876.html[/URL][/QUOTE]This post about kendy caught my eye. Looking at RM and BP I found angel Spa on Chicago alhough Cici works out of King on North. I called Chicago Ave shop. Man at Roosevelt place answered saying Chicago site closed that day but other girl "good. " I did not Persue. I'm a bit confused.

Please post or PM info or reviews. Prior post mentions a cell number for MT For off site. I will post in return any experience obtained.

I PM'd a long answer. But will sort of repeat it here. First, it is entirely up to you. Many customers have limited income, and should never feel they are obligated to pay any certain amount. For an hour, probably $20 - $30 is most typical. (give or take $10). A customer that comes every other week and tips $10 is a very valued customer and much better than someone who tips $40 but only comes once every six months. In my case, I used to add to the tip when somebody would go over the stated massage time. So ten minutes over is probably worth $5-$10 added to the tip. A 90 minute massage is proportionately higher.

[QUOTE=E2304;3268158]What does Mei consider a fair appreciation for her services? (Ballpark).[/QUOTE]

The answer is complicated, since I'm married already. L does not want me to hurt the American wife. In 2 years, American wife will retire and wants to move to California. So that's the biggest fork in the road for us. I really do want to marry her. We decided to make the decision in the next year or two. L calls me "Husband" and I call her "Wife". She says her parents call me "American" because "Bob" sounds too much like "Baba" (which means father in Chinese). "Robert" sounds like "radish in Chinese. So she says the family will call me "Meguren" which means "American". For Chinese New Year, we were video chatting with her family, and some cousins. She called me "Zhangfu" (husband) and it caused quite a commotion. Cousins wishing her well. Her parents know we are not married, but the cousins now think we are! Oh what a tangled web!

[QUOTE=DMichaels69;3268305]Bob, when are you and Mei getting married?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Bob521;3268495]The answer is complicated, since I'm married already. L does not want me to hurt the American wife. In 2 years, American wife will retire and wants to move to California. So that's the biggest fork in the road for us. I really do want to marry her. We decided to make the decision in the next year or two. L calls me "Husband" and I call her "Wife". She says her parents call me "American" because "Bob" sounds too much like "Baba" (which means father in Chinese). "Robert" sounds like "radish in Chinese. So she says the family will call me "Meguren" which means "American". For Chinese New Year, we were video chatting with her family, and some cousins. She called me "Zhangfu" (husband) and it caused quite a commotion. Cousins wishing her well. Her parents know we are not married, but the cousins now think we are! Oh what a tangled web![/QUOTE]She's in good hands with you because you are not a rush st. Bullshit*er! Most dudes talk a great show and few deliver. Much happiness no matter what!

[QUOTE=DMichaels69;3268308]Don't you just love people? Customers? Tenants? They are wonderful. LOL.[/QUOTE]I am the greatest guy in the world as long as I am doing everything their way every time! I don't even try to do it my way, however sometimes offer just a fair way to handle things! Nope, again I am an a**h**e when it's not their way or the highway!

Ok first post. First review. First time at an AMP.

Dreamed about Relax (south location) and saw Jessie, who also greeted me at the door. Older woman, I am terrible with ages but I will guess around 40. I loved her curves, face shows some age and is nothing special. Paid. 65 for the house and another. 6 for HE. I know it was too much but I was a little nervous with it being my first time.

Did some OTC roaming and some UTC under her top when I undid the bra. Nice nipples that were hard. Ending was a little mechanical I guess but I don't have any other AMP experiences to compare it to. She cleaned me up after and gave me some water. I was satisfied enough and will probably repeat.

On the way out I saw another girl there, didn't get her name but maybe that was Kelly that was referenced in an earlier post. Younger, kinda plain but also pretty at the same time. She was wearing a short black dress with flowers. Had wavy black hair. I would like to try her next time if possible.

[QUOTE=DMichaels69;3266125]Sounds like you are working on the green card?[/QUOTE]Anyone moderating this?

You don't need to be concerned with that. The question was answered by the original poster who did not have a problem with the question.

[QUOTE=RickMann;3270793]Anyone moderating this?[/QUOTE]