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[QUOTE=PriscillaM;5670099]I imagine any non pro girl who will fuck for 100 must be really fit and in shape from jogging.[/QUOTE]Actually the body's on most of these girls are great. No sacrificing there. Looks sometimes great sometimes average. Admittedly I only date AA so that helps in a variety of ways. A lot of them did sports in H. S. and are also just naturally inclined to having better body's due to better genes than your average white girl. And generally speaking will take about half or less than a comparable girl from another race. Also due to their age are usually still living with family and don't have a car. So their expenses are lower overall to begin with.
Anyone who has followed my posts over the years, like back when I used to post pictures (now mostly all taken down) knows that I really do get a lot of spinners.
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Vilfredo
[QUOTE=FirstClass1;5670250]Non pros have no set "price," as you said, they are not professionals. While there are hustlers and scammer rings to look out for, most girls on SA are just looking for companionship and some financial help on the side. I've hooked up with many girls for absolutely nothing, not even a beer or slice of pizza. Others do want old fashioned courtship: dinner and dates, etc.
It's not like Hx where a handful of crews supply for a fixed number of regulars, or the streetwalkers who adjust pricing in real time based on the dozens of offers they get every day.
Personally I prefer using some charm and smashing a hot girl for a reasonable allowance and no time limits, versus spending 50 bucks in a rush job with a skid row meth head who will get you sick or rob you.[/QUOTE]Funny, I must have missed the stories about the nonpros with pussies so moist you can skate on them doing mongers for a slice of pizza or less.
My point was that you all are in a market, and refuse to admit it. Your market seems to get to pareto optimality at a much higher price than the pro market. Paying a gal to meet her at a kroger while her mom waits in the car is not my idea of a situation that I want to be a part of. In my mind, the girl can make a pareto improvement by putting an ad on a hooker site and the monger can pay her without all the sheer nonsense.
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[QUOTE=PriscillaM;5671610]Funny, I must have missed the stories about the nonpros with pussies so moist you can skate on them doing mongers for a slice of pizza or less.
My point was that you all are in a market, and refuse to admit it. Your market seems to get to pareto optimality at a much higher price than the pro market. Paying a gal to meet her at a kroger while her mom waits in the car is not my idea of a situation that I want to be a part of. In my mind, the girl can make a pareto improvement by putting an ad on a hooker site and the monger can pay her without all the sheer nonsense.[/QUOTE]And so we have finally gotten to the end of it. You would spend countless hours at the temple of doom (and other dens of hand jobbery) overpaying for old ladies, but don't see the correlation to that and going to an M&G in a parking lot to find some fresh meat. The optimal result of which is when you find a real winner, you can bang her endlessly for a $ an hour (or more depending on your budget) or twice a day, or spend days at a time with them, and for months or even a couple of years. Low mileage gals that give the extra fun of the GF experience (real or imagined) that I see guys routinely paying 5 bills a pop for.
I am not even sure (and am not interested in) the optimal result of any other endeavors to find pussy. So each to his own. I never post on escort threads, AMP threads, streetwalker threads, strip club threads, agency threads, etc. I am not sure why you bother to post on a sugar thread. But please feel free to do so as we do not discriminate based on any mongers hunting tactics or their opinions of others tactics. As far as being in a market we are all very aware of that. But part of the fun is the occasional freebie that happens to anyone that partakes regularly in this venue. But no one goes into it with that being the goal (with the one exception of this guy that used to post years ago on the richmond thread) and the scammers that never post here that rob every sugar newbie they can find.
But to semi (I think) agree with part of what you are saying. There is a diminishing return, So in my case I keep the payouts so low that no matter the outcome I can never really feel cheated in any sexual encounter. And like all mongers, when I do... I just move on.
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SA getting better?
Is it just me or SA has gotten better this month? Haven't run into many scammers lately and I had quite a few willing to meet that I can't keep up with my schedule. Even had to say no I cannot meet them when they initiated to meet. Maybe it was just this week b / c it was girls I messaged last week and I had a barrage of them messaging me at the same time. Just a temporary holiday run and back to normal later I'm assuming?
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[QUOTE=CreamFire;5672511]Is it just me or SA has gotten better this month? Haven't run into many scammers lately and I had quite a few willing to meet that I can't keep up with my schedule. Even had to say no I cannot meet them when they initiated to meet. Maybe it was just this week b / c it was girls I messaged last week and I had a barrage of them messaging me at the same time. Just a temporary holiday run and back to normal later I'm assuming?[/QUOTE]I've also been getting excellent results. Many hot girls are running into holiday expenses and are more eager to meet.
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[QUOTE=FirstClass1;5673378]I've also been getting excellent results. Many hot girls are running into holiday expenses and are more eager to meet.[/QUOTE]Same here. Definitely more. Did an M&G with a so called non-existant NP today. Full time student and pt model. Met her at her work and talked for about a half hour in the car. Went pretty well, lots of smiles but no real touching or kissing. Says she has never had good sex but has only been with guys her own age. Lives in the dorm. Hope to pick her up from work tonite. Doesn't drive, not focused on the sugar, maybe pay to get her nails done if she incentives me to do so. Or she could just take the allowance we agreed to. The usual $
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[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;5674622]Same here. Definitely more. Did an M&G with a so called non-existant NP today. Full time student and pt model. Met her at her work and talked for about a half hour in the car. Went pretty well, lots of smiles but no real touching or kissing. Says she has never had good sex but has only been with guys her own age. Lives in the dorm. Hope to pick her up from work tonite. Doesn't drive, not focused on the sugar, maybe pay to get her nails done if she incentives me to do so. Or she could just take the allowance we agreed to. The usual $[/QUOTE]Well done.
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Seeking verification
Suddenly seeking is saying I am logging in from a different device, (I'm not) and needs verification. When I give them my email address attached to the account it never shows up. I tried contacting them but I doubt they ever respond. Any thoughts?
L.
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Change your browser
[QUOTE=LargeEss;5677765]Suddenly seeking is saying I am logging in from a different device, (I'm not) and needs verification. When I give them my email address attached to the account it never shows up. I tried contacting them but I doubt they ever respond. Any thoughts?
L.[/QUOTE]You should use Firefox or safari or opera. Chrome and edge have a way of bouncing off your IP address from device to device if you are logged in to any of their cookie enabling.
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[QUOTE=LargeEss;5677765]Suddenly seeking is saying I am logging in from a different device, (I'm not) and needs verification. When I give them my email address attached to the account it never shows up. I tried contacting them but I doubt they ever respond. Any thoughts?
L.[/QUOTE]Every time I login it asks to request a security code verification and emails your account. Sometimes you have to do it twice.
I recommend you be patient and send an email to support. Their response time can be a week or more, seems that they are.
Eager to take our high subscription fees but have a skeleton crew for customer service issues. Good luck.
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[QUOTE=StudBucket;5680803]Every time I login it asks to request a security code verification and emails your account. Sometimes you have to do it twice.
I recommend you be patient and send an email to support. Their response time can be a week or more, seems that they are.
Eager to take our high subscription fees but have a skeleton crew for customer service issues. Good luck.[/QUOTE]Thanks, yeah, I have heard nothing from support. I have tried getting it to send a verification code but nothing is showing up. I will take you advice and wait a week.
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[QUOTE=PriscillaM;5680745]You should use Firefox or safari or opera. Chrome and edge have a way of bouncing off your IP address from device to device if you are logged in to any of their cookie enabling.[/QUOTE]Firefox has a "containers" function that's very useful as well.
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Soul sucker
Recently ran into this Asian girl who looked decent in her photos on SA. Couldn't really see her face but body seemed decent, so I messaged and got a response. Chatted a little, spoke on the phone and during our conversation said she got out of a 2 year relationship. Also mentioned that she gives the meanest head (I know every woman says this). So I said sure why not and we decided to meet in the evening.
We met up, got coffee and spoke in the car for about 15 minutes before she goes after it. She absolutely devours it and with no gag reflex which she confirmed. This girl has some skill, not the prettiest or even avg in the face by most people standards but what she did with that mouth is worth it. She's not on the bigger side, she's definitely avg size probably closer to skinnier.
Might hook up some people in the DM with her info, then probably drop the link here after 3 weeks once I move on.
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Info?
[QUOTE=Dsteezy;5682527]Recently ran into this Asian girl who looked decent in her photos on SA. Couldn't really see her face but body seemed decent, so I messaged and got a response. Chatted a little, spoke on the phone and during our conversation said she got out of a 2 year relationship. Also mentioned that she gives the meanest head (I know every woman says this). So I said sure why not and we decided to meet in the evening.
We met up, got coffee and spoke in the car for about 15 minutes before she goes after it. She absolutely devours it and with no gag reflex which she confirmed. This girl has some skill, not the prettiest or even avg in the face by most people standards but what she did with that mouth is worth it. She's not on the bigger side, she's definitely avg size probably closer to skinnier.
Might hook up some people in the DM with her info, then probably drop the link here after 3 weeks once I move on.[/QUOTE]Could you DM me the info?
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[QUOTE=Dsteezy;5682527]Recently ran into this Asian girl who looked decent in her photos on SA. Couldn't really see her face but body seemed decent, so I messaged and got a response. Chatted a little, spoke on the phone and during our conversation said she got out of a 2 year relationship. Also mentioned that she gives the meanest head (I know every woman says this). So I said sure why not and we decided to meet in the evening.
We met up, got coffee and spoke in the car for about 15 minutes before she goes after it. She absolutely devours it and with no gag reflex which she confirmed. This girl has some skill, not the prettiest or even avg in the face by most people standards but what she did with that mouth is worth it. She's not on the bigger side, she's definitely avg size probably closer to skinnier.
Might hook up some people in the DM with her info, then probably drop the link here after 3 weeks once I move on.[/QUOTE]I think we saw the same girl. DM me as your inbox is full.